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Egmond Codfried
14 april 2012, 10:30
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-SjXTu7BzN48/Te-FAMit43I/AAAAAAAAAAY/5OZOWd3f_Lw/s1600/George+Keppel+of+Albemarle.jpg

George Keppel, count of Albemarle

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-2WDNYgMGtuQ/Te-E1SL7PkI/AAAAAAAAAAU/-gkUe-u_NRE/s1600/Aarnoud+Joost+Baron+van+der+Duyn+van+Maasdam+%2528 1718-1785%2529.jpg

Baron Aarnout Joost van der Duyn van Maasdam

Two 18th century members of the highest Dutch nobility. George was a grandson of a sister of Aarnout Joost.
Aarnout Joost was described as ‘chimney sweeper, by James Boswell, the cousin of his wife, who was ‘Mrs. Maasdam, black as Chimney.’
As: very dark, brown black and swarty.
Isabelle de Charriere wrote a poem about his brown black teint: A son teint noir et basane (1772).
She also wrote that the family Maasdam was famous for being swarthy.
The swarty colour is seen on George Keppel, Count of Albemarle.

Mike111 has cracked, claiming to have turned some white boys on this forum and more madman ranting. Claiming catholics are Blacks and protestants are whites, without any proof or numbers.
As if Im looking at a different Malibudusul, asking proper research questions.
You have noticed that the whites do not answer questions, they let you repeat and repeat the same information over and again.
Kindly respond to this:
The Moors symbolise Black Superiority, blue blood.
Blacks, people who selfidentified as Blacks, with brown and black complexions; ruled Europe from 1100-1848.
They did not think their rule would stop, they might have used some whites to control the rest.
Some thus created nobility might have married Blacks to gain colour.
Black kings married fair woman after 1848.
We are not getting to see all the proof, much is kept hidden.
The Black complexioned prints were made after a Black painting that has been: Overpainted or destroyed.
You know about face painting with lead white?
Part of the nobility painted themselves white, because of classical esthetics.
They also bleached their face.
But they did not want to become whites,
who they saw as shoe leather.
The painter made them white, because it was the fashion.
After 1848 when whites were finally liberated,
they founded museums to show the white portraits that the Black elite themselves ordered.
This is revisionism.
Racism against Blacks is a liberation ideology, to prevent Blacks gaining power again.
The French Revolution 1789-1795, was the end of the Ancien Regime, a Black, Black identified regime.
Human Races do no exist but were invented to give whites human status.
Because they were the majority, the Black middling classes led by the Black philosophers needed to include whites in their struggle.
Because of their fear and hatred of Blacks, whites react irrational towards this research.
Whites are bad news, why? Because they are fucked up. Why? Because Blacks used their ancestors to make shoes. Had them flayed alive.

The trade in Human Leather:
http://forum.politics.be/showthread.php?t=156830

Egmond Codfried
14 april 2012, 10:40
Discussion: The Black Canon of the Netherlands

http://www.groene.nl/2012/10/discussie-de-zwarte-canon

The paperversion of this magazine also mentioned the treatment and the position of the Serf (horigen) to be made part of Dutch historiography. The article claimed the system of serfs; all small farmers, herdsman, landless peasants, had ended between the 13-14th century.

lombas
14 april 2012, 10:54
Isabelle de Charriere wrote a poem about his brown black teint: A son teint noir et basane (1772).


Waarom vind ik op 10 fora 10 verschillende data in berichten van jou voor dit "gedicht"?

Egmond Codfried
14 april 2012, 11:22
Waarom vind ik op 10 fora 10 verschillende data in berichten van jou voor dit "gedicht"?

En toch heb ik het steeds over hetzelfde gedicht waarop niemand inhoudelijk ingaat. Schrijffouten veranderen niets aan de inhoud van mijn betoog, wat jij dus al jaren negeert, als een echte handenafhakker.

http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Basan%C3%A9_(couleur)

Basané

http://www.hiriar.com/17-35-large/cognac.jpg

lombas
14 april 2012, 12:37
En toch heb ik het steeds over hetzelfde gedicht waarop niemand inhoudelijk ingaat.

Kun je het gedicht eens posten?


Schrijffouten veranderen niets aan de inhoud van mijn betoog, wat jij dus al jaren negeert, als een echte handenafhakker.


Wat negeer ik juist? Jij hebt een interesse in een geschiedkundig onderzoeksdomein, ik heb er andere (meer bepaald Romeinse buitenland- en grenspolitiek). Dus wat is daar mis mee? Ik stel gewoon een vraag.

lombas
15 april 2012, 12:24
Tof, den Eggie is verbannen. Hoe kan ik nu ooit dat gedicht achterhalen?

Munglik
16 april 2012, 20:06
Tof, den Eggie is verbannen. Hoe kan ik nu ooit dat gedicht achterhalen?

Pagina 90: Link (http://books.google.be/books?id=eXsGOPMz0yUC&pg=PA91&lpg=PA91&dq=Isabelle+de+charriere+son+teint&source=bl&ots=uaq2w7NUgi&sig=riXMecdSLPefNk7UY0mNzXyRw14&hl=nl&sa=X&ei=CG2MT7HKG8idOoj_kcoJ&ved=0CDoQ6AEwAg#v=onepage&q=son%20teint&f=false)

Schelfie
17 april 2012, 09:34
Tof, den Eggie is verbannen. Hoe kan ik nu ooit dat gedicht achterhalen?

Weeral?

Don't worry, he'll be back...

Wiley E Coyote
17 april 2012, 10:57
Hij zal niet gemist worden :)

Egmond Codfried
21 april 2012, 13:32
Het gedicht is nu al een week geleden gepost, toch geen inhoudelijke reactie. Goed dat ik geen moeite hieraan heb verspild. Maar dank voor deze versie, helaas sta je op de negeerlijst vanwege je achterlijke eerste reactie.

Another Jack
21 april 2012, 13:50
Weeral?

Don't worry, he'll be back...

... and black.

Egmond Codfried
4 mei 2012, 13:11
http://www.lib-art.com/imgpainting/7/0/28507-portrait-of-joachim-murat-girodet-de-roucy-trioson-anne-louis.jpg

Joachim Murat, brother in law of Napoleon Bonaparte. Hails from a part of France where the people were brown, by Girodet.

http://www.culture.gouv.fr/Wave/image/joconde/0353/m060704_dc22185_p.jpg

Joachim, King of Naples and the Two Sicilies, (wherever the hell they are!)

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/ba/Murat.jpg

Murat, with a tiny Moor, showing us his tight buns.

http://www.virtualarc.com/static/images/officers/murat.jpg

Joachim Murat

Regarding your question Malibudusul if Napoleon was Black. This is his brother in law.

http://www.tolentino815.it/images/murat2.jpg


http://www.napoleonicsociety.com/images/chap24f_clip_image002_0000.jpg

The Black Prince on the white horse, symbolising Black Superiority in Europe.

http://www.ko-witting.nl/Napole7.jpg

Caroline princess Murat, wife of Joachim Murat, sister of Napoleon and her children. Notice the two beautiful breasts on display.

http://mdncworldhistory.wikispaces.com/file/view/coronation_napoleon%5B1%5D.jpg/300311362/coronation_napoleon%5B1%5D.jpg

The crowning of Josephine Bonaparte, just after Napoleon crowned himself, snatching the crown away from the pope. Notice Joachim Murat in the Middle, offering the crown. The crown came from blackness. The Blackest person, like a Moor in the middle. Sometimes the Moor was real family member. I saw this painting in the Louvre and at Fountainblue.



http://www.gutenberg.org/files/3567/3567-h/images/p358.jpg


http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_ekAm4Aquyj8/S8drAZ3V2hI/AAAAAAAAIH0/xeJsClpV0bc/s1600/deco1.jpg

Decolletage

http://carmicimicata.blogspot.com/2010/04/decolletage.html


http://www.portraitminiatures.com/images/contin/cd-Isabey-Lady-c1805.jpg

Pauline Bonaparte, Napoleon’s wild sister, who remained loyal to him


http://www.portraitminiatures.com/details/contin/cd-Isabey%20Lady%20c1805.htm

Egmond Codfried
4 mei 2012, 15:15
http://profile.ak.fbcdn.net/hprofile-ak-snc4/370553_100003165468199_967371429_n.jpg

Lorenzo Barelli

Egmond Codfried
8 mei 2012, 15:29
CHILDREN WE NEED TO GET US SOME MORE OF THIS….

By gods grace and gods eternal love, a poor sinner like Egmond Codfried was allowed to make important discoveries. As if my whole live was in preparation to be called to this high office of giving Blacks back their stolen inheritance. Namely that Europe was a Black Civilisation (1100-1848). But god only helps those who help themselves, so I’m reading from day to night, my bed surrounded by heaps of library books, prints, and papers. So, when in 2004 I by chance stumbled on Maria Jacoba van Goor’s portrait, I already knew her granddaughter Isabelle de Charrière, I had a biography of her in my own private library. Reading about De Charrière and her circle, wondering why they keep mum about granny, slowly the whole thing became clear to me. What they show us is not necessarily reality, no matter how real things might look. I remember thumping through a thick biography asking: were are the Blacks? Then I realised I was looking at the Blacks, who were disguised as whites. Van Goor’s unmistakably afrocentric portrait was nowhere in sight. A Black is Beautiful poem: ‘About his brown black complexion’ which praises baron Van Maasdam, described him as black, but on further searching revealed a white looking portrait of his, ordered presumably by himself. These little facts led me to ask more questions, and finding answers too.

Basane: http://fr.w3dictionary.org/index.php?q=swarthy

The poem: http://books.google.be/books?id=eXsGOPMz0yUC&pg=PA91&lpg=PA91&dq=Isabelle+de+charriere+son+teint&source=bl&ots=uaq2w7NUgi&sig=riXMecdSLPefNk7UY0mNzXyRw14&hl=nl&sa=X&ei=CG2MT7HKG8id Ooj_kcoJ&ved=0CDoQ6AEwAg#v=onepage&q=son%20teint&f=false (http://books.google.be/books?id=eXsGOPMz0yUC&pg=PA91&lpg=PA91&dq=Isabelle+de+charriere+son+teint&source=bl&ots=uaq2w7NUgi&sig=riXMecdSLPefNk7UY0mNzXyRw14&hl=nl&sa=X&ei=CG2MT7HKG8idOoj_kcoJ&ved=0CDoQ6AEwAg#v=onepage&q=son%20teint&f=false)

Today as I entered the public library I stopped at the tables were the new books are laid out, and grab whatever suits my subjects. Today I took: The Northern Renaissance; Dürer to Holbein. By Kat Heard and Lucy Whitaker. This book offered some new portraits and some new information. A personal description of Mary of Scots which tells us much more, then just her looks.

http://www.myartprints.com/kunst/hugo_van_der_goes/dreifaltigkeit_hi.jpg

Hugo van der Goes, Trinity (1473-1478)with a very dark skinned god the father.

http://www.bildindex.de/bilder/fmc428483a.jpg

http://www.royalcollection.org.uk/egallery/images/collection_large/403439.jpg

Charles V, both by anonymus. I'm getting closer to the Mostaert portrait, as Charles V was just a fine looking Black, prognastic gentleman.

http://www.aiwaz.net/uploads/gallery/feast-of-the-rose-garlands-1029-mid.jpg

Albrecht Dürer, Feast of the Rose Garlands.: I’m intrigued by the black hands in the middle and left: as if they escaped over painting?


http://www.royalcollection.org.uk/egallery/images/collection_large/402867.jpg

Hans Brosamer, Portrait of the artist?

http://www.kornbluthphoto.com/images/CatherineMedici.jpg

Catharine de Medici, Queen of France

I cannot find a bust of Marie de Medici by Germain Pollin on the web.

http://26.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lwqatkbvYh1qidnqfo1_500.jpg

May of Scots, by Francois Clouet (1560-61)

Page 215

http://www.royalcollection.org.uk/eGallery/object.aspmaker=11868&object=403429&row=2&detail=about


The beauty of Mary’s white skin was commented on at the time and the white mourning portraits were celebrated. Brantôme, who was part of the entourage which accompanied Mary on her journey to Scotland, observed that ‘the whiteness of her face rivalled the whiteness of her veils, and in this contest artifice was the loser, the veils paling before the snows of her skin’ (‘la blancheur de son visage contendoit avecques la blancheur de son voile �* qui l’emporteroit; main enfin l’artifice de son voile le perdoit, et la neige de son blanc visage effaçoit l’autre’).To be sure, she did not have white skin, but she dabbled in bleaching and white face paint. Strangely the whitened skin is presented as some great merit, but actually the peoples had to be somehow cajoled or tricked into believing their queen was white. As white was the majority, and white was considered beautiful. Yet they never dreamed of marrying a white.

Egmond Codfried
9 mei 2012, 14:48
I don't have a problem, dear. I'm doing just fine, thank you.

You made a great point here and the same yesterday, as NOT calling these historical Europeans who were the elite 'Black.'

Because you have immediately people's minds going into overdrive and use the images, the identity that was wrongly placed on the peoples originally of Africa with brown or black skin. They themselves, the European elite were, off course, not aware of what came after, the Jim Crow thing, the demeaning depiction of Blacks by Hollywood. The Black European Elite did not think their reign would ever end.
Yet I see 1848 as an important watershed, and proof this by stating that Pieterbaas, was added to the Sinterklaas feest, and referred to the image of the Moor, as symbol of blue blood and Black superiority. These ideas I distilled from books, and stories which on the surface were not talking about Black Superiority, but that you can understand if you read closely.
My strength is that I do not hide my face, and I do not mince my words, so even the dumbest trash knows what I'm talking about. I’m not into mumbo-jumbo and religious b.s as most thinking people want to get away from those ignorant traps. I do not preach hatred or sexism. Many such leaders turn into fat cats, once they are in office, after they have defiled the respectability of young women and even of young men from their congregation, as we have learned about some of these leaders.
Some have some unfortunate trauma of the brain and cannot countenance the idea or image of a Black King. It freaks them out. This reaction is very much part of my research and believing that whites have not recovered from the shock of being skinned alive, and turned into shoe leather; as the reason for them acting out.
Still I notice a few rational, cool headed, persons with integrity (who know what that means) can follow me beautifully, and understand that the racist images of Blacks of today, have precious little to do with these Black kings and emperors. We have seen them painting white and bleaching their faces, yet never wanting to be a white person. We have seen Africans even today painting up white, evoking ancestors.
And finally: blue blood is the old, original nobility, the ones who were present when Blacks elevated themselves into nobility. Afterwards others were awarded for services to the kings, who wanted to break the power of the nobility, and received ennobling diplomas, and some of these might have gone on to marry true nobility. They might have been whites. But I believe the true nobles had colour.
In the end, today we identify as Blacks and are persecuted and kept down as Blacks. So I really see no need to go and change the vocabulary because they have attached such horrible lies and ideas to the word Black.

I notice that you still use your mysterious tone of voice with me.
Wouldn't it be nice if someone would show us an old source which says Muur?

Schelfie
10 mei 2012, 16:04
Egmond, Voor de *ste keer:

Dit is een forum, geen blog. Stop met dit geschiedenisdeel onder te spammen met je volslagen nonsens.

Nietzsche
10 mei 2012, 16:05
Egmond, mattie, jij moet serieus minder aan de lsd zitten man, hou het rustig. :P

Egmond Codfried
10 mei 2012, 16:45
http://chriscawkwell.com/alltheanimals/wp-content/uploads/2010/12/white-ape-218x300.jpg

Zeg dat tegen de mensen die site's zijn begonnen op basis van mijn blauw bloed denken, die overal mijn onderzoek noemen. Ik wordt nu genoemd op de site van de Universiteit van Berkeley. Je zult het met mij eens zijn dat je eerst iets moet onderzoeken voordat je praat. Je hebt duidelijk je huiswerk niet gedaan.

JuBiLaTe
14 mei 2012, 16:32
http://www.lib-art.com/imgpainting/7/0/28507-portrait-of-joachim-murat-girodet-de-roucy-trioson-anne-louis.jpg

Joachim Murat, brother in law of Napoleon Bonaparte. Hails from a part of France where the people were brown, by Girodet.

http://www.culture.gouv.fr/Wave/image/joconde/0353/m060704_dc22185_p.jpg

Joachim, King of Naples and the Two Sicilies, (wherever the hell they are!)

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/ba/Murat.jpg

Murat, with a tiny Moor, showing us his tight buns.

http://www.virtualarc.com/static/images/officers/murat.jpg

Joachim Murat

Regarding your question Malibudusul if Napoleon was Black. This is his brother in law.

http://www.tolentino815.it/images/murat2.jpg


http://www.napoleonicsociety.com/images/chap24f_clip_image002_0000.jpg

The Black Prince on the white horse, symbolising Black Superiority in Europe.

http://www.ko-witting.nl/Napole7.jpg

Caroline princess Murat, wife of Joachim Murat, sister of Napoleon and her children. Notice the two beautiful breasts on display.

http://mdncworldhistory.wikispaces.com/file/view/coronation_napoleon%5B1%5D.jpg/300311362/coronation_napoleon%5B1%5D.jpg

The crowning of Josephine Bonaparte, just after Napoleon crowned himself, snatching the crown away from the pope. Notice Joachim Murat in the Middle, offering the crown. The crown came from blackness. The Blackest person, like a Moor in the middle. Sometimes the Moor was real family member. I saw this painting in the Louvre and at Fountainblue.



http://www.gutenberg.org/files/3567/3567-h/images/p358.jpg


http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_ekAm4Aquyj8/S8drAZ3V2hI/AAAAAAAAIH0/xeJsClpV0bc/s1600/deco1.jpg

Decolletage

http://carmicimicata.blogspot.com/2010/04/decolletage.html


http://www.portraitminiatures.com/images/contin/cd-Isabey-Lady-c1805.jpg

Pauline Bonaparte, Napoleon’s wild sister, who remained loyal to him


http://www.portraitminiatures.com/details/contin/cd-Isabey%20Lady%20c1805.htm



De MuRAT's hebben een jonge geschiedenis; zij blijven in mijn ogen plebejers.

Egmond Codfried
16 mei 2012, 12:29
De MuRAT's hebben een jonge geschiedenis; zij blijven in mijn ogen plebejers.

Jawel, je hoge standaard is bekend: Koning Murat van Napels is dus een plebejer.

Munglik
16 mei 2012, 12:51
@Egmond: Als de blanken de volledige geschiedenis hebben kunnen vervalsen, wie heeft er dan werkelijk de macht in handen?

Munglik
16 mei 2012, 12:53
Jawel, je hoge standaard is bekend: Koning Murat van Napels is dus een plebejer.

Zijn vader was een boer en herbergier. Hij kon koning worden door op te klimmen in het Franse leger.

Egmond Codfried
18 mei 2012, 15:26
Zijn vader was een boer en herbergier. Hij kon koning worden door op te klimmen in het Franse leger.

Lieverd, dit is een non-issue, van een persoon die zelf in de ogen van zijn eigen soort er helemaal niet toe doet. Wat hij vindt is volstrekt onbelangrijk.
Jij, als je een zwarte of gekleurde persoon bent, wordt uitgenodigd kennis van mijn blauw bloed theorie te vernemen. De witten zijn sinds 1848 geëmancipeerd, zijn sindsdien geen schoenleer vee meer, en heerst er witte suprematie. Elk wit vullis uit de goot waant zich superieur aan ons. Als je dat is opgevallen en je er last van hebt, verkondig dan de blauw bloed theorie. Ik wil best ook je vragen beantwoorden. Als jij echter de witten naar de mond wil praten, verzoek ik je verder uit mijn buurt te blijven. Niet onredelijk hoop ik.

Egmond Codfried
31 mei 2012, 10:44
Originally posted by Egmond Codfried:
Originally posted by malibudusul:
http://www.hroarr.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/mair-paulus-hector-anthoni-fugger-BSB-Hss-Cod-icon-312-b-1550.jpg

http://www.bsb-muenchen.de/uploads/pics/fugger.jpg

http://archiv.twoday.net/stories/6024087/

http://www.hroarr.com/the-secret-fechtbuch-of-the-little-fuggers/

http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Fugger_Ehrenbuch_013.jpg http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_FIprgxxZYvM/TMxJOhGfOSI/AAAAAAAAIdc/Xb1nUvnAf5Y/s320/nat_king_cole.jpg

Blue blood is black blood.
Not all resembled Nat King Cole, but they were not whites, did not appear as whites. The images are confusing, as they held strange standards of beauty. They had other ideas of portraiture, and we need to approach all portraits as symbolistic of purpose, not realistic.

http://www.futilitycloset.com/2007/11/28/veiled-symbolism/

http://www.futilitycloset.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/11/2007-11-28-veiled-symbolism.jpg

Symbolism in art. Look for it in wikipedia. Only ignorant trash will see theis image as realistic.
I was at the Van Gogh museum in Amsterdam, which has a collection of symbolist paintings bought by the brother of Johanna Bonger, Andries Bonger in Paris. In my mind the Indonesians are very much into the symbolism, spirit world and things etherical, to explain his love for this style.

http://www.vggallery.com/photos/images/andries.jpg

Andries Bonger, brother of Johanna van Gogh-Bonger

Schelfie
31 mei 2012, 11:48
Zijn vader was een boer en herbergier. Hij kon koning worden door op te klimmen in het Franse leger.

Het feit dat hij de schoonbroer was van Napoleon had misschien ook wel geholpen. ;-)