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Oud 12 maart 2012, 16:02   #1
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Weaker houses

Allah almighty says”The likeness of those who take Auliya' (protectors and helpers) other than Allah is as the likeness of a spider, who builds (for itself) a house, but verily, the frailest (weakest) of houses is the spider's house; if they but knew.”[ Sûrat Al-‘Ankabût(The Spider)-verse41],this is a wonderful verse to prove the greatness of the holy Qur’an and to be a clear reply on atheists who claim that the Qur’an is a human made.

Here, we will see that house of the spider is weak not only from the construction point of view but also from the social side.

Spider house is weak
House of the spider is definitely the weakest as all creatures build strong houses to afford bad weather but the spider builds its house in the open area where it is exposed to rain, wind and moisture. And we can find the strangest kind of spiders is that one which lives in water.

this kind of spiders lives under water and gathers bubbles and usethis bubbles to fill the house and it can breath through that house , there are small capillarieswhich cover its body to help in gathering the bubbles….look at the house which is consists of bubbles that can be destroyed under any circumstances!!!

The weak engineering
Most of creatures and insects build its houses in 3D designe, but the spider build it in 2D or flat and it get affected by temperature, moistureand wind so the spider may eat its own house to produce another threads to rebuild the house again!!!!

The weak family
Mother may eat her husband or sons or any other spider ……!!!!It is only a separated life which is similar to the life of the atheist who onlybelieves in his or her life. That is clear in the life of people in western countries where you find mother and father denies there sons as there is no social communication between any of them.

The social life is weak
All of us know about the society of bees or ants or locusts …..The only creature that lives alone in non-organized societies is the spider. Spider is selfish where ants and bees may defend each other to death.

The marriage is weak
Some species of the spider have very strange life where the wife eats the husband after marriage! So, the husband may run away.
What a miserable marriage. Scientists say that the phenomenon of spider is unique in the life of all living organisms.

Threads are weak
Scientists say that spider’s thread is stronger five times than the steel! Despite that it can easily destroyed, why? Because spider is not able to produce thick threads rather it produces so thin threads as it is ten times thinner than the hair of the head.

Hence, if Allah almighty said “the frailest (weakest) threads”, here a scientific error will be identified but He almighty says:” the frailest (weakest) of houses is the spider's house” and this isthe preciseexpression. Allah says:” And who is truer in statement than Allah?”[ Sûrat An-Nisâ’(The Women)-verse87]

The similarities between the atheist and the spider
• There are 37000 kinds of spiders on earth and scientists are not able to imitate the threads of the spider as that creature has got a magnificent engineering technique in building and designing, exactly the same as atheist who used to do a perfect work in this life but in the hereafter all of his or her works will equal nothingas Allah almighty don’t accept none of those works.Allah says: (And We shall turn to whatever deeds they (disbelievers, polytheists, sinners, etc.) did, and We shall make such deeds as scattered floating particles of dust)[ Sûrat Al-Furqân(The Criterion)verse 23])

• Scientists say that there is a contradiction in the threads of spider as it is very strong but its house is very weak. the same as atheists as you find them are contradicted in their thoughts , when you ask them who created the universe , the answer is no one or the coincidence but if you told them that no one did produce the car , indeed they will consider it as a fun!!!!!!!

• The sight power of spider is limited to only few centimeters, exactly
like the atheist who just sees this life as all things and don’t put the hereafter in his calculations.

• Spiders are aggressive and ravenous creatures and may hurt others by its poison…. The same as atheist who used to distribute his or herpoisons (wrong thoughts and disbelieving) between people.

Spider life and atheist life
My beloved, we will examine some western statistics which produced by the atheists themselves to compare between the weak life of spiders and the weak life of atheists who believe only in this life and who used to consider the Satan and money as the leaders and gods.

Do you know that in America, each year there are 300000 Cases of rape (American ministry of justice)[1] and there is a rape every two minutes [2]!!!!!!!......this society had lost all social relations… exactly as the spider.
Do you know that 17.6% of the American women were exposed to rape minimum one time in life! And 20% of them are children who are less than 12 years old!!!!And quarter of the university students in America exposed to raping during their studying in university (fisher 2000).

And every 15 seconds there is a raped woman in America (sexually or physically)by a friend or a colleague, also 20% of girls are raped in the teenager period[4].also raping children is estimated by thousands of cases in that first world according to recent statistics. !!!

Summary
We can summarize the miracle of that holy verse”The likeness of those who take Auliya' (protectors and helpers) other than Allah is as the likeness of a spider, who builds (for itself) a house, but verily, the frailest (weakest) of houses is the spider's house; if they but knew.” as following:
1. The holy verse mentioned that the female spider builds the house not the male as Allah says: “who builds (for itself)” not who builds for himself. This scientific reality wasn’t known 1400 years ago at the time of the descending of the Qur’an.

2. The weakest house in the whole nature is the house of spider and this scientific fact wasn’t known at that time.
3. The holy verse determined in a clear sentence that the weakest is the house not the thread which is considered to be a miracle which testifies that this book was descended from Allah the almighty and it is never a human made.
Thanks Allah for the blessing of Islam.
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Oud 12 maart 2012, 16:05   #2
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Is dat niet een tent in de woestijn?.....
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Oud 12 maart 2012, 18:26   #4
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Scientists say that there is a contradiction in the threads of spider as it is very strong but its house is very weak.
Verschillen in schaal, zegt u dat iets?

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The sight power of spider is limited to only few centimeters
Wrong

Verschillende spinnensoorten jagen in het daglicht en hebben uitstekend zicht. Zo'n soorten jagen ook vaak zonder web, en hun huis is de aarde (burrow) of een rots, dus die onzin van "zwakste huis" kunnen we ook naar de prullenmand gooien.

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Spiders are aggressive and ravenous creatures and may hurt others by its poison
Wrong

FFS, er zijn regelmatig mensen op TV te zien die omgaan met spinnen zo groot als schotelbordjes zonder enige bescherming. Het is afhankelijk van soort tot soort, maar de meesten zijn verre van agressief.

Moet ik verder gaan met je "wetenschappelijk ondersteunde" onzin onderuit te halen, of wil je misschien nog wat extra achterlijke metaforen maken?
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Oud 12 maart 2012, 21:04   #5
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The similarities between the atheist and the spider
• There are 37000 kinds of spiders on earth and scientists are not able to imitate the threads of the spider as that creature has got a magnificent engineering technique in building and designing, exactly the same as atheist who used to do a perfect work in this life but in the hereafter all of his or her works will equal nothingas Allah almighty don’t accept none of those works.Allah says: (And We shall turn to whatever deeds they (disbelievers, polytheists, sinners, etc.) did, and We shall make such deeds as scattered floating particles of dust)[ Sûrat Al-Furqân(The Criterion)verse 23])

Scientists say that there is a contradiction in the threads of spider as it is very strong but its house is very weak. the same as atheists as you find them are contradicted in their thoughts , when you ask them who created the universe , the answer is no one or the coincidence but if you told them that no one did produce the car , indeed they will consider it as a fun!!!!!!!

The sight power of spider is limited to only few centimeters, exactly
like the atheist
who just sees this life as all things and don’t put the hereafter in his calculations.

• Spiders are aggressive and ravenous creatures and may hurt others by its poison…. The same as atheist who used to distribute his or herpoisons (wrong thoughts and disbelieving) between people.

Spider life and atheist life
My beloved, we will examine some western statistics which produced by the atheists themselves to compare between the weak life of spiders and the weak life of atheists who believe only in this life and who used to consider the Satan and money as the leaders and gods.

Do you know that in America, each year there are 300000 Cases of rape (American ministry of justice)[1] and there is a rape every two minutes [2]!!!!!!!......this society had lost all social relations… exactly as the spider.
Do you know that 17.6% of the American women were exposed to rape minimum one time in life! And 20% of them are children who are less than 12 years old!!!!And quarter of the university students in America exposed to raping during their studying in university (fisher 2000).

Are you kidding? Do short-sighted American-atheist-scientists rape 300000 women each year only because they cannot imitate the threads of the spider?

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The similarities between the atheist and the spider
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Allah almighty says...
As I've mentioned to you in this post, http://forum.politics.be/showpost.ph...8&postcount=90, my poor naive muslim friend, anything that follows a statement like this has absolutely no meaning what so ever as long as you cannot prove to us those words actually came from allah.
And deep down you know that it can't be proven, and therefore deep down you know you could be wrong, you know you could be throwing away the only life you will ever have.
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The introduction in this video informs: "According to Islamic tradition, the Koran is the latest revolution of Allah to man, Islam considers the Koran to be the word of God ...."
But the reader is mistaken, because the Koran is considered the latest revelation of Allah to men. Please check your message before dropping it, either from your office or from heaven.

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Not a spider, check your facts.
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We learn that the Islamic banks in Europe are not interested in trade, they invest in banks, immobiles, and hotels. Qatar and Bahrein want to make profit with their money. Na und?
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Not a spider, check your facts.
my dear brother

see here

[1] (Full Report of the Prevalence, Incidence, and Consequences of Violence Against Women, Findings from the National Violence Against Women Survey, November, 2000).

[2] (Rape, Abuse and Incest National Network (RAINN) calculation based on 2000 National Crime Victimization Survey. Bureau of Justice Statistics, U.S. Department of Justice).

[3] (UN Study On The Status of Women, Year 2000).

[4] (New York Times, 8/01/01).

[5] National Geographic.

[6] R.F. Foelix, Biology of spiders, Oxford university press, 1996.

[7] The Wonders of Spider Silk, www.earthlife.net

[8] A SPIDER'S WEB, The University of Houston's College of Engineering, www.uh.edu
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my dear brother

see here

[1] (Full Report of the Prevalence, Incidence, and Consequences of Violence Against Women, Findings from the National Violence Against Women Survey, November, 2000).

[2] (Rape, Abuse and Incest National Network (RAINN) calculation based on 2000 National Crime Victimization Survey. Bureau of Justice Statistics, U.S. Department of Justice).

[3] (UN Study On The Status of Women, Year 2000).

[4] (New York Times, 8/01/01).

[5] National Geographic.

[6] R.F. Foelix, Biology of spiders, Oxford university press, 1996.

[7] The Wonders of Spider Silk, www.earthlife.net

[8] A SPIDER'S WEB, The University of Houston's College of Engineering, www.uh.edu
Ik heb u al aangetoond waarom een groot deel van uw post dikke onzin is, een lijst bronnen zonder enige context is geen argument.
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Again, no spiders there.
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No my dear brother


The goal here is not the spider itself

But the goal

Similarities between the life and the life of Spider atheist
Weak

God has guided you to Islam

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No my dear brother


The goal here is not the spider itself

But the goal

Similarities between the life and the life of Spider atheist
Weak

God has guided you to Islam

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X9D15CnSCMY
En uw vergelijking is idioot, het gedrag van een atheïst en een spin is niet te vergelijken.
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En uw vergelijking is idioot, het gedrag van een atheïst en een spin is niet te vergelijken.
Misschien is er één overeenkomst, ze geloven beide niet in Allah.
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My dear brother
All creatures (inanimate - animals - plant) believe in God

God says in the Holy Qur'an
(44) The seven heavens and the earth and whatever is in them exalt Him. And there is not a thing except that it exalts [ Allah ] by His praise, but you do not understand their [way of] exalting. Indeed, He is ever Forbearing and Forgiving
(45) And when you recite the Qur'an, We put between you and those who do not believe in the Hereafter a concealed partition
(46) And We have placed over their hearts coverings, lest they understand it, and in their ears deafness. And when you mention your Lord alone in the Qur'an, they turn back in aversion

(41) Do you not see that Allah is exalted by whomever is within the heavens and the earth and [by] the birds with wings spread [in flight]? Each [of them] has known his [means of] prayer and exalting [Him], and Allah is Knowing of what they do

Humans is the obstinacy and controversy

God says in the Holy Qur'an

(33) We know that you, [O Muhammad], are saddened by what they say. And indeed, they do not call you untruthful, but it is the verses of Allah that the wrongdoers reject. (34) And certainly were messengers denied before you, but they were patient over [the effects of] denial, and they were harmed until Our victory came to them. And none can alter the words of Allah . And there has certainly come to you some information about the [previous] messengers
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