Afrikaanse Unie vraagt 'onmiddellijke' stopzetting van de bombardementen

[tomm]

De VS, altijd de grote voorvechter geweest van democratie in de Arabische wereld!?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wks2RRV3cIM

[Jozef Ostyn]

Oorspronkelijk geplaatst door tomm

Bij mijn weten ook niet goed voor de Irakezen, vele 100000'en lieten het leven, en de levensstandaard is nog altijd slechter dan onder Saddam. Volgens transparency international is Irak het tweede corruptste land ter wereld.

Er hebben minder Irakezen het leven verloren sinds 2003 dan onder saddam Hussein en de overgrote meerderheid is blij dat ze van hem verlost zijn.

[ministe van agitatie]

Oorspronkelijk geplaatst door Jozef Ostyn

Er hebben minder Irakezen het leven verloren sinds 2003 dan onder saddam Hussein en de overgrote meerderheid is blij dat ze van hem verlost zijn.

Wat een onzin.

[Jozef Ostyn]

Oorspronkelijk geplaatst door ministe van agitatie

Wat een onzin.

Ik weet het, u verkiest leugens.

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1. Libië
2. Algerije
3. Egypte
4. Nigeria
5. Zuid-Afrika

financieren 75% van het budget van de AU (53 leden).

Mauretanië, Mali, Congo-Brazzaville kregen heel wat investeringen vanuit Libië (in totaal 31 Afrikaanse landen kregen dat).

Maar er is meer.

Bron: Libya: Ceasefire or bust
By Pepe Escobar
14 apr 2011

(...) On top of it the mediators are Africans - not neo-colonial Europeans. South Africa's Zuma would be the first to viscerally repudiate an Anglo-French-dominated Libya. There was ample suspicion about Zuma's motives when South Africa voted for UN resolution 1973. Anyway, the fact is now Zuma says what the top four BRICS plus Germany were saying before the vote; this Anglo-French-drafted resolution is open-ended. And it opens the door to the West just deposing any African leader they fancy, whenever they want it.

Ugandan President Yoweri Museveni has also been instrumental in this mediation. He considers Gaddafi a true nationalist - and as most of his African peers, not to mention in the Middle East and across the Non-Aligned Movement (NAM) in the developing world, they all favor nationalists compared to foreign puppets a la INC. (...)

(...) For its part, NATO's Brigadier-General Mark van Uhm tried to spin it in Brussels, warning - correctly - that Gaddafi's forces adapted to the air strikes by favoring "hit-and-run tactics by motorized columns of pickup trucks to wear out opposition forces psychologically rather than gain ground".

So NATO acknowledges it just can't shock and awe the enemy without provoking a genocide. And the grown ups in the picture are the Africans - who have come up with a plausible endgame. Only Paris, Rome and Doha have recognized the INC as the de facto Libyan government (can't resist the comparison with Saudi Arabia, Pakistan and the UAE being the only ones to recognize the Taliban.)

[tomm]

Oorspronkelijk geplaatst door Jozef Ostyn

Er hebben minder Irakezen het leven verloren sinds 2003 dan onder saddam Hussein en de overgrote meerderheid is blij dat ze van hem verlost zijn.

ah ja? Toch niet volgens opiniepeilingen.
Sinds 2003 verloren 100000'en het leven wegens politiek geweld. Sinds de laatste golfoorlog in 1990 tot 2003 hooguit een paar 100 die wegens politiek geweld het leven verloren. (uitgezond Amerikaanse bombardementen in die tijd)

[tomm]

Oorspronkelijk geplaatst door Jozef Ostyn

Ik weet het, u verkiest leugens.

U verkiest Bush, de man die nooit liegt...
ja, er liggen zeker massavernietigingswapens in Irak, Saddam heeft ze naar de maan geschoten met medeweten van linkse Amerikanen... (een theorie die het onwaarschijnlijk maar waar goed doet onder uiterst rechtse republiekeinse Amerikanen)

[Johan Bollen]

Rare 'rebellen' die als een van de eerste daden, nog voor ze de macht in handen hebben, een centrale bank oprichten. Dit feit werpt een blik op de de achterliggende motivaties voor deze oorlog. Het handvol landen die na 9/11 door de VS als doelwitten werden aangeduid hadden 1 ding gemeenschappelijk...niet door het westen gecontroleerde centrale banken.

[ministe van agitatie]

the uprising looked like a “major oil and money play, with the true disaffected rebels being used as puppets and cover

A blog also commented, sarcastically again, on the possibility of outside involvement. “What a skilled bunch of rebels — they can fight a war during the day and draw up a new central bank and a new national oil company at night without any outside help whatsoever. If only the rest of us were so versatile! …
Apparently someone felt that it was very important to get pesky matters such as control of the banks and control of the money supply out of the way even before a new government is formed,” read the piece.

Even mainstream news outlets were puzzled. “Is this the first time a revolutionary group has created a central bank while it is still in the midst of fighting the entrenched political power?” wondered CNBC senior editor John Carney. “It certainly seems to indicate how extraordinarily powerful central bankers have become in our era.”

But some observers are convinced that the central bank issue was actually the primary motivation for the international war against Libya‘s dictatorship. In an article that has spread far and wide across the web, entitled “Globalists Target 100% State Owned Central Bank of Libya,” author Eric Encina maintains that the world’s “globalist financiers and market manipulators” could not stand the Libyan monetary authority’s independence, explaining:

Currently, the Libyan government creates its own money, the Libyan Dinar, through the facilities of its own central bank. One major problem for globalist banking cartels is that in order to do business with Libya, they must go through the Libyan Central Bank and its national currency, a place where they have absolutely zero dominion or power-broking ability. Hence, taking down the Central Bank of Libya (CBL) may not appear in the speeches of Obama, Cameron and Sarkozy but this is certainly at the top of the globalist agenda for absorbing Libya into its hive of compliant nations.

And when Gadhafi is gone and the dust has settled, according to Encina, “you will see the Allied reformers move in to reform Libya’s monetary system, pumping it full of worthless dollars, priming it for a series of chaotic inflationary cycles.” The future of Libya’s vast gold stockpiles could also be in jeopardy, he noted.

Numerous other analysts and experts have also pointed to the central banking issue as one of the top factors leading up to the Western backing of Libyan rebels. Monetary historian Andrew Gause, for example, recently shared his concerns about the matter publicly.

...

Of course, the U.S. government claims to have very little knowledge about who the rebels actually are. But the U.S. Commander of NATO forces recently admitted to the Senate that hints of al Qaeda involvement have been detected among the rebels. The terror group was created, armed, funded, and trained by the U.S. government decades ago, as Secretary of State Hillary Clinton admitted even recently. But since then, it has targeted American embassies and other U.S. targets.

As The New American reported over the weekend, elements of al Qaeda and affiliated terror groups are indeed among the leadership of the revolution. But despite that fact, the U.S. government and the international coalition are providing air support and weapons for the new central-bank-creating rebels

The New American

[porpo]

AU moeten eerst voor vrijheid en soevereiniteit strijden. Zwarte Afrikanen moeten een voorbeeld nemen van Somalië en Djibouti. Eerst een massale betoging proberen en dan een plan maken voor een langdurige oppositie.

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Bob Marley - Africa Unite

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Libyan leader Muammar Gaddafi apologized to African leaders on behalf of Arab nations for their involvement in the African slave trade.

“I regret the behavior of the Arabs… They brought African children to North Africa, they made them slaves, they sold them like animals, and they took them as slaves and traded them in a shameful way. I regret and I am ashamed when we remember these practices. I apologize for this,”

Gaddafi said on Sunday at the Second Afro-Arab summit [10 okt 2010] in Sirte, Libya, Reuters reported

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