Moordpoging op Imam Khan

[Pandareus]

Oorspronkelijk geplaatst door Bach

Abe kon goed opschieten met Putin.

Wat is de relevantie daarvan ?

[TheFourHorsemen]

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Wat is de relevantie daarvan ?

-> De aanvaller was een geheime CIA agent

Alles is de schuld van de VS.

[Pandareus]

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-> De aanvaller was een geheime CIA agent

Alles is de schuld van de VS.

Sorry, ik was het eventjes uit het oog verloren.

[Bach]

THE ATTEMPTED ASSASSINATION OF IMRAN KHAN

by Prof Abdul Jabbar, a scholar of world literatures and politics of the Muslim world, in San Francisco

"The enemies of the most honest and most popular political leader in Pakistan’s history tried to assassinate him. Since they suffered major defeats in election after election, could not succeed in their repeated efforts to have him declared ineligible for election, they realized that they could not beat Khan electorally. So they tried to kill him. He and many of his party leadership were injured, and one of them, sadly, did not survive. The assassin’s statement that he was acting alone and not influenced by anyone could have been credible if, just recently, a prominent investigative journalist, Arshad Sharif, had not been assassinated in Kenya, where he was trying to hide after numerous threats to his life by Pakistan’s establishment.

Those very people who had Arshad Sharif assassinated are responsible for this cowardly assassination attempt on Khan’s life. Their action signals a clear and decisive end to their decades long corruption and looting of the country’s wealth because now every Pakistani except a very few people have united behind Khan and expressed an unshakable resolve to rid the country of the foreign-installed imported government, murderers, and mafia leeches, who have been sucking the blood of the masses for decades.

The Day of Reckoning is Fast Approaching in Pakistan.

It is shocking that whereas anyone can file an FIR (First Information Report) with police for the most trivial of reasons, Imran Khan is not being allowed that basic protection from further attempts on his life. The Supreme Court has to intervene here.

If Pakistan’s judiciary fails to do its duty and safeguard Pakistan’s constitution and the rule of law, the criminals in all branches of the government, including the traitors in the army, will be tried in the People’s Court, consisting of nearly 90% of the country’s population, in a revolution that has already been forced on Pakistan’s people by the dastardly assassination attempt on their leader, Imran Khan.

In addition, the murders of the journalist Arshad Sharif and numerous other killings of honest government officials who unveiled the mafia’s corruption will not go unpunished. The Day of Reckoning is fast approaching. Loyal Pakistanis are confident that their brethren, the overwhelming majority in all branches of the government, including the army, who are controlled by just a handful of villainous, self-seeking, and country-betraying oppressors, will get rid of them in a peaceful transfer of power to those who have the people's mandate and trust."

[Pandareus]

Oorspronkelijk geplaatst door Bach

THE ATTEMPTED ASSASSINATION OF IMRAN KHAN

by Prof Abdul Jabbar, a scholar of world literatures and politics of the Muslim world, in San Francisco

"The enemies of the most honest and most popular political leader in Pakistan’s history tried to assassinate him. Since they suffered major defeats in election after election, could not succeed in their repeated efforts to have him declared ineligible for election, they realized that they could not beat Khan electorally. So they tried to kill him. He and many of his party leadership were injured, and one of them, sadly, did not survive. The assassin’s statement that he was acting alone and not influenced by anyone could have been credible if, just recently, a prominent investigative journalist, Arshad Sharif, had not been assassinated in Kenya, where he was trying to hide after numerous threats to his life by Pakistan’s establishment.

Those very people who had Arshad Sharif assassinated are responsible for this cowardly assassination attempt on Khan’s life. Their action signals a clear and decisive end to their decades long corruption and looting of the country’s wealth because now every Pakistani except a very few people have united behind Khan and expressed an unshakable resolve to rid the country of the foreign-installed imported government, murderers, and mafia leeches, who have been sucking the blood of the masses for decades.

The Day of Reckoning is Fast Approaching in Pakistan.

It is shocking that whereas anyone can file an FIR (First Information Report) with police for the most trivial of reasons, Imran Khan is not being allowed that basic protection from further attempts on his life. The Supreme Court has to intervene here.

If Pakistan’s judiciary fails to do its duty and safeguard Pakistan’s constitution and the rule of law, the criminals in all branches of the government, including the traitors in the army, will be tried in the People’s Court, consisting of nearly 90% of the country’s population, in a revolution that has already been forced on Pakistan’s people by the dastardly assassination attempt on their leader, Imran Khan.

In addition, the murders of the journalist Arshad Sharif and numerous other killings of honest government officials who unveiled the mafia’s corruption will not go unpunished. The Day of Reckoning is fast approaching. Loyal Pakistanis are confident that their brethren, the overwhelming majority in all branches of the government, including the army, who are controlled by just a handful of villainous, self-seeking, and country-betraying oppressors, will get rid of them in a peaceful transfer of power to those who have the people's mandate and trust."

Bron voor deze tekst ?
Wie is dat ? Zonder controleerbare bronvermelding kan dit even goed humpty dumpty zijn die iets dacht te vertellen te hebben op zijn podcast met 25 volgers.

[Bach]

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Bron voor deze tekst ?
Wie is dat ? Zonder controleerbare bronvermelding kan dit even goed humpty dumpty zijn die iets dacht te vertellen te hebben op zijn podcast met 25 volgers.

De bron is Prof Abdul Jabbar

Terug te vinden op Countercurrents.org

[Pandareus]

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De bron is Prof Abdul Jabbar

Terug te vinden op Countercurrents.org

Bedankt voor het antwoord.

Maar zie je nu zelf écht niet in dat het niet opgaat om zomaar wat teksten zonder enige bronvermelding noch referentie neer te droppen ?

Als iedereen dat hier zou doen, krijgen we een onvoorstelbare chaos en een mix van onzin en feiten.

[Bach]

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Bedankt voor het antwoord.

Maar zie je nu zelf écht niet in dat het niet opgaat om zomaar wat teksten zonder enige bronvermelding noch referentie neer te droppen ?

Als iedereen dat hier zou doen, krijgen we een onvoorstelbare chaos en een mix van onzin en feiten.

Er zijn er verschillende die bijna nooit bronnen geven en tegelijkertijd zich als nieuwsagentschappen gedragen. Als de info in de richting gaat die men WIL horen wordt er ook niet naar gevraagd door forummers als u. Dan wordt desnoods propaganda gewoon over genomen.

[Pandareus]

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Er zijn er verschillende die bijna nooit bronnen geven en tegelijkertijd zich als nieuwsagentschappen gedragen. Als de info in de richting gaat die men WIL horen wordt er ook niet naar gevraagd door forummers als u. Dan wordt desnoods propaganda gewoon over genomen.

"Er zijn er verschillende die..." is kinderpraat. Wie iemand zijn uitspraken wil citeren hoort daar een bron bij te geven. Dat is elementair.

[Bach]

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"Er zijn er verschillende die..." is kinderpraat. Wie iemand zijn uitspraken wil citeren hoort daar een bron bij te geven. Dat is elementair.

De naam van de auteur stond er bij. Er is geen verplichting ook nog een link te geven.

Ik raadt het steeds meer af trouwens gezien de censuur op alternatieve media.

[Pandareus]

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De naam van de auteur stond er bij. Er is geen verplichting ook nog een link te geven.

Ik raadt het steeds meer af trouwens gezien de censuur op alternatieve media.

Je schaamt je hee, voor de kwaliteit van je 'bronnen' ?

[maddox]

Meh, aanslagen plegen (of laten plegen) in tapijtkoppiestan kost weinig.

De juiste iman de juiste aansporing geven en het balletje is al aan het rollen.

[Bach]

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Je schaamt je hee, voor de kwaliteit van je 'bronnen' ?

Sommige bronnen zijn zelfs verboden (denk aan RT als bekend geval) door de gedachten politie in het westen. Anderen 'bescherm' ik liever tegen censors. Maar nooit claim ik een quote als zijnde de mijne die het niet is. Ik ga niet in tegen het forumreglement.

Het wordt steeds moeilijker trouwens alternatieve bronnen te raadplegen . U mag tevreden zijn.

[Pandareus]

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Sommige bronnen zijn zelfs verboden (denk aan RT als bekend geval) door de gedachten politie in het westen. Anderen 'bescherm' ik liever tegen censors. Maar nooit claim ik een quote als zijnde de mijne die het niet is. Ik ga niet in tegen het forumreglement.

Het wordt steeds moeilijker trouwens alternatieve bronnen te raadplegen . U mag tevreden zijn.

Circelredenering... Door geen controleerbare bronvermelding te geven kan iedereen lukraak schrijven wat hij wil, en dan aan name dropping doen. 'Abdul Jabbar' erbij schrijven is even zinloos als Juul Kabas of Urbanus van Anus.

Verder ook een heel raar betoog dat je voert... RT gaan 'beschermen' lijkt me onzin aangezien men die hier buiten filtert. En jouw 'alternatieve' bronnen kunnen zinvol zijn, als ze de kritiek kunnen doorstaan. Wat jij nu net onmogelijk lijkt te willen maken...

Goeroe praat dus, we moeten het maar aannemen...

[kelt]

De in april afgezette ex-President ,Mr Khan,is ondertussen alweer gerepareerd genoeg om,gezeten in een rolstoel,aan te kondigen dat hij verder wil gaan met de "protestmars" die NU verkiezingen eist in plaats van de legislatuur,waar nu iemand anders op zijn vroegere zetel zit,te laten uitdoen...

Het past allemaal in de Pakistaanse traditie van aanslagen,stoerspraak,opgezweepte mensenmassa en algemene politieke wanorde...

Het komt de enige echte machtsfactor in Pakistan,de strijdkrachten,heel erg goeds uit.De generaals zien dat het goed is.

Pakistan is ,zoals Egypte,te beschouwen als een leger met burger-dienaren voor alle gewone en huishoudelijke klussen...

[Bach]

Interview door Piers Morgan met Imran Kahn na de moordaanslag:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Ww-gLfR1eAo

Piers Morgan heeft niet zo'n last van een kerktoren mentaliteit wanneer hij Kahn aankondigt als "een van de meest explosieve figuren in de internationale politiek", alhoewel je nooit weet of achter dit woordgebruik geen explosieve wensgedachte zit deze imperium ontrouwe politicus toch liever geëlimineerd te zien.

[Bach]

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De in april afgezette ex-President ,Mr Khan,is ondertussen alweer gerepareerd genoeg om,gezeten in een rolstoel,aan te kondigen dat hij verder wil gaan met de "protestmars" die NU verkiezingen eist in plaats van de legislatuur,waar nu iemand anders op zijn vroegere zetel zit,te laten uitdoen...

Dat heeft die ander ook niet gedaan.

Probeer misschien ook eens wat bronnen te geven voor uw dagelijkse info sessies.

[Bach]

Foreign policy schrijft een artikel over Imran Kahn met interview
https://foreignpolicy.com/2022/11/21...c_latest062921

Is the US trying to make up with Imran Khan?

Polin analyseert:

Foreign Policy, a prominent organ of Washington’s ruling neocons, has done a lengthy interview with him, giving him a platform to put his viewpoints across (below).

The Americans were widely believed to have backed the parliamentary coup that ousted Khan seven months ago. His “sin”: being too chummy with Russia and China.

Perhaps the neocons have concluded that Imran - by far the most popular politician in Pakistan - is the leader likeliest to bring a semblance of stability back to the strategic but strife-torn country.

Uit het FP artikel:

“Imran Khan, the cricketer-turned-politician and Pakistan’s last prime minister, is the man considered most likely to become Pakistan’s next prime minister.

“A populist whose Pakistan Tehreek-e-Insaf (PTI) party has racked up impressive victories in most of the elections it has contested since he was ousted in a no-confidence vote in April, Khan draws huge crowds as he calls out corruption and the military’s influence in politics. He has a penchant for conspiracy theories, disdains journalists, yet loves smartphones and social media.

“Khan is recovering from bullet wounds to his legs sustained in an assassination attempt on Nov. 3 during one of his many mass marches. He has blamed his successor, Prime Minister Shehbaz Sharif, for ordering the shooting.”


Oppassen steeds met war monger blad Foreign policy.

[Bach]

Pakistan’s Imran Khan compares his ouster to CIA coup in Iran, criticizes Western colonialism
Pakistan’s ex Prime Minister Imran Khan compared the US-backed coup against him in April 2022 to the CIA plot that overthrew Iran’s elected PM Mohammad Mossadegh in 1953. He praised Tehran’s sovereignty, criticized Western colonialism, and reaffirmed support for Palestine.
By Ben Norton

Pakistan’s former Prime Minister likened the?*US-backed parliamentary coup?*that removed him from power in April 2022 to the violent CIA operation that overthrew Iran’s democratically elected Prime Minister Mohammad Mossadegh in 1953.

The CIA-organized coup “was a very similar pattern followed in when my government was dismissed,” Khan said.

He likewise praised Iran’s independence today, stating that Western sanctions means that “the people of Iran might have suffered, but they haven’t lost their dignity.”

Khan added that, while Pakistan and Iran may have some differences, “you cannot disagree with them standing for their sovereignty. So I admire that about them.”

As prime minister, during the Covid-19 pandemic in 2020,?*Khan publicly called?*on the United States to lift its?*illegal sanctions on Iran, arguing, “It is very unjust they are dealing with such a large outbreak on one side, and on the other they are facing international sanctions.”

Since his ouster, Pakistan’s unelected, US-backed coup regime has?*hit Khan with baseless “terror” charges, violently repressed protests, banned public broadcasts of his speeches, and arrested dissidents for criticizing it on social media.

Prominent journalists who exposed the corruption of the coup regime, like?*Arshad Sharif, were killed in mysterious circumstances.

A?*gunman even tried to assassinate Khan, shooting him in the leg at a rally in November.

Khan made these comments likening the coup against him to the CIA putsch against Mossadegh, and commending Iran for its independence, in a December 28?*interview with the Center for Islam and Global Affairs?*(CIGA), a think tank based in Istanbul, Türkiye.

In the discussion, Khan stressed the supreme importance of sovereignty, saying “a sovereign country is the key for me to success.”

He criticized the US-dominated International Monetary Fund (IMF) for limiting the sovereignty of developing nations like Pakistan.

Khan also emphasized that he will always support the struggle of the Palestinian people and would never recognize Israel.

Imran Khan praises Iran’s independence

Khan said of Iran in the interview:

Well, in Iran, during Mohammad Mossadegh’s premiership, his government was removed, and this is now documented, it was removed by the CIA. And it was because an independent-minded prime minister took over Iran, and wanted to make policies for the interest of the people of Iran. And so we all know what happened to him.

There was, first of all, there was this campaign of propaganda campaign against him in the media. Then the opposition parties were paid to do demonstrations against the government of Prime Minister Mossadegh. And then his own party members were given money to change party affiliation. And eventually it was finally the army which removed him.

So?*it was a very similar pattern followed in when my government was dismissed.

But, you know, let me just talk about Iran. I find that?*it is most important for a country to live with dignity and self-respect. I mean, that for me is the most important thing.

You know, we Muslims, our oath with the Almighty is “La ilaha illa Allah” – “There is no god but Allah.” It gives us dignity, self-respect. We are not supposed to bow in front of anyone but the Almighty.

And the Muslim countries, when they become subservient or when they become blind states, when they lose their dignity.

Unfortunately, in Pakistan, we have suffered from this. I have found that?*Pakistan’s foreign policy, the vast majority of the people of Pakistan have found it very undignified, because we have relied on aid, and we stretch our hands, and we get money.

Or we fight other people’s war, and then we participate, a lot of our own people die in this, and we do it for foreign aid or US dollars. And I think it has consequences for our society.

Number one, the society never learns to stand on its own feet, because only when you stand on your own feet do you realize your strength. But when you are always having crutches of foreign aid, just because you are trying to serve someone else’s foreign-policy objectives, you lose your dignity.

And for me,?*the people of Iran might have suffered, but they haven’t lost their dignity.

They, you know, we will disagree with maybe what their world view is. We might disagree with the world view of Islam. But?*you cannot disagree with them standing for their sovereignty. So I admire that about them.

Imran Khan calls for sovereignty, criticizes IMF

Later in the discussion, Khan reiterated similar comments about the supreme importance of sovereignty:

Eventually, a country has to be sovereign.

I believe that a country must stand its own feet, have dignity and self-respect, and that’s what gives it strength. because you rely on your own resources.

A human being that walks on crutches, his legs will waste away. The bigger the weight we lift, it strengthens us. Same with human societies.

If you start depending on aid, which we have, and if you depend on foreign loans and the IMF, you would never really learn how to stand on your own feet.

So?*a sovereign country is the key for me to success.

Imran Khan criticizes Western colonialism

Khan argued that developing countries are still recovering from the harms of European colonialism:

You see, the problem most of the developing world, or what you call the ex colonies, all of us, the problems we faced are the same. We have struggled to establish rule of law, justice. I mean, justice means rule of law. Rule of law means that everyone is equal before the law.?*And when you have colonialism, basically the colonials are above law.

And in Pakistan, unfortunately, and like most of the developing,?*like most of the ex-colonial countries, when they got their independence, the rulers mostly took the role of the colonizers, and they put themselves above law.

And so when you do not have rule of law, corruption becomes one of the biggest symptoms of the lack of rule of law, because the powerful elite goes above law.

And when they start making money, the state institutions cannot check the corruption. And that’s how countries become poor, not because of lack of resources, but the corruption of the ruling elite that bankrupts countries.

And that’s the case with almost the entire developing world. It’s certainly the case with Pakistan. We suffer because, after colonialism, either we had military dictatorship, half the time we were ruled by military dictators – and military dictators, clearly, when they when they take over a country, when they decide to impose martial law, they break the constitution. It’s against the constitution and the rule of law.

But unfortunately, when we’ve had civilian government, so called democratic government, they also have put themselves above law, which is why?*they have been able to make so much money through corruption and take the money abroad.

And it’s the same story in almost all the developing world.?*What you have in the developing countries are the ruling elites siphoning off money and taking it abroad.

…

You know, the problem about the Muslim world is that we are still evolving.?*We are coming out of colonialism; we haven’t found our feet.?*Our education system lags behind. We don’t have a great many scholars who can direct us. We have a split.

We have the Westernized elites in the Muslim world who have moved quite far away from the religion and don’t understand much about it. And then we have a lot of conservatives who do not understand the Western thought.

Imran Khan reaffirms support for Palestine, refusal to recognize Israel

Khan reaffirmed his strong support for Palestine and reiterated that he would never recognize Israel:

The founder of Pakistan [Muhammad Ali Jinnah], whom we call Quaid-e-Azam, the “Great Leader,” you know, he in 1948 gave a statement on Palestine, and he spoke about the injustice which was being done to the people of Palestine.

And he was very clear that?*Pakistan would not accept or would not recognize Israel as long as the people of Palestine were not given justice. So that has been basically the line of all Pakistani heads of state since then.

And secondly, we have – the issue of Palestine is almost exactly the same as the people of Kashmir. So the moment we give up our principled stand on the recognition of Israel means that we give up on Kashmir, too, because the issues are more or less the same.

…

So the United States, being a superpower, every country wants to have a good relationship with them. So the temptation is that, if you are friendly, if you recognize Israel, you will have a good relationship with the US.

But the problem in?*Pakistan is that it is a democratic country. And anyone who wants to go to the people, he knows that the public will never accept any head of state who has recognized Israel.

Waarover men het in het westen liever niet heeft.

[patrickve]

Men doet hier alsof in een makakkenland men een soort van westers gestoelde democratie zou kunnen hebben met een westers lijkende rechtspraak en zo. En dan gaat men obscure redenen zoeken als dat zoals het in makakkenlanden hoort, men elkaar gaat aflappen en een kliek de macht houdt. Dat is de normale gang van zaken in makakkenlanden he.