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1 februari 2016, 12:42 | #25561 | |
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Gaat jou geen zak aan. Laatst gewijzigd door Frank51 : 1 februari 2016 om 12:43. |
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3 februari 2016, 20:28 | #25562 | |
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“It's only terrorism if they do it to us. When we do much worse to them, it's not terrorism.” |
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3 februari 2016, 20:31 | #25563 | |
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Vind u het niet raar dat juist de betrokkenen helemaal niet aan een inside job denken.
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3 februari 2016, 21:28 | #25564 | |
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Ik ken beide kanten. Iederéén kent de ene kant, deze die ze door ons strot geduwd hebben. Het officieel verhaal. De andere kant ken jij niet, want je vat de andere feiten niet. Alleen die zielige argumenten hebben jullie ergens geleerd om die andere feiten zogezegd te debunken. Wat totaal niet lukt. |
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4 februari 2016, 11:24 | #25565 | ||
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Blijf jezelf vooral dat wijsmaken. Jullie blijven gewoon dezelfde flutargumenten op tafel gooien die al ontelbare keren ontkracht zijn. |
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12 april 2016, 09:13 | #25566 | |
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And here we go!!
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12 april 2016, 10:00 | #25567 | |
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De vinger wijst wel NIET naar regeringskringen (de inside job theorie) maar naar hulp door Saoudische organisaties en de Saoudische regering. Dat die een bepaalde mate van betrokkenheid hebben is totaal geen verrassingen zal door niemand (buiten SA zelf) worden bestreden denk ik. |
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12 april 2016, 15:24 | #25568 | |
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LOL Dat 9/11-onderzoek is het papier niet waard. De overheid gaat nooit zichzelf onderzoeken, integendeel die gaan mekaar bevorderen en opslag geven.
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12 april 2016, 16:03 | #25569 | ||
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12 april 2016, 17:12 | #25570 |
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Zijn persoonlijke mening, betekent niets. Trouwens, sommige van de kapers waren vrij goed opgeleid en spraken wel degelijk Engels.
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Het 9/11 onderzoeksrapport was "set up" to fail: Citaat:
ook: FAA and NORAD For more than two years after the attacks, officials with North American Aerospace Defense Command (NORAD) and the Federal Aviation Administration (FAA) provided inaccurate information about the response to the hijackings in testimony and media appearances. Authorities suggested that US air defenses had reacted quickly, that jets had been scrambled in response to the last two hijackings and that fighters were prepared to shoot down United Airlines Flight 93 if it threatened Washington, D.C.. The Commission reported a year later that audiotapes from NORAD's Northeast headquarters and other evidence showed clearly that the military never had any of the hijacked airliners in its sights and at one point chased a phantom aircraft—American Airlines Flight 11—long after it had crashed into the World Trade Center.[11] For example, Maj. Gen. Larry Arnold and Col. Alan Scott told the commission that NORAD had begun tracking United 93 at 9:16 a.m., but the commission determined that the airliner was not even hijacked until 12 minutes later. According to later testimony, the military was not aware of the flight until after it had crashed in Pennsylvania. The Commission was forced to use subpoenas to obtain the cooperation of the FAA and NORAD to release evidence such as audiotapes. The agencies' reluctance to release the tapes—along with e-mails, erroneous public statements and other evidence—led some of the panel's staff members and commissioners to believe that authorities sought to mislead the commission and the public about what happened on September 11. "I was shocked at how different the truth was from the way it was described," said John Farmer, a former New Jersey attorney general who led the staff inquiry into events on September 11, in an August 2006 interview.[11] Limited scope In April 2002, Bush said that the investigation into 9/11 should be confined to Congress because it deals with sensitive information that could reveal sources and methods of intelligence.[12] But by September, the White House came under intense fire concerning the commission from many victims' families,[13] and thus President Bush finally agreed to the creation of an "independent" 9/11 commission. But many 9/11 victims' families believed that the scope of the investigation by the commission did not go far enough in investigating the US government's failures because the commission was not to investigate intelligence failures.[14] The National Security Whistleblowers Coalition, consisting of former FBI, NSA and other federal intelligence experts, claim the 9/11 Commission report was fundamentally flawed because the Commission refused to hear, ignored, or censored testimony about the many pre–September 11 warnings given to the FBI and US intelligence agencies. These federal whistleblowers claim that in an effort to avoid having to hold any individual accountable, the 9/11 Commission turned a blind eye on FBI agent-provided evidence before September 11 regarding the 9/11 plot.[15] Able Danger Main article: Able Danger In August 2005, Lt. Col. Anthony Shaffer claimed he had informed 9/11 Commission Executive Director Philip D. Zelikow about a highly classified data-mining project called Able Danger that had identified two of the three terrorist cells responsible for 9/11. Shaffer said Zelikow was initially very interested and gave Shaffer his card to contact him again. However, Shaffer claims when he contacted Zelikow, he was no longer interested in information about Able Danger.[16] The commission later issued a response saying they found Shaffer "not sufficiently reliable" and the information was "lacking historical significance" and did not warrant further investigation.[17] Subsequently, four additional "credible witnesses" have come forward to support Shaffer's account of Able Danger.[18] U.S. Representative Curt Weldon (R-PA) claimed Commission staff had received two briefings on Able Danger, one in October 2003 and another in July 2004.[19] Former Senator Slade Gorton (R-WA), a member of the Commission, said: "Bluntly, it just didn't happen and that's the conclusion of all 10 of us." A search for documents on Able Danger has not been very productive, leading Curt Weldon to express extreme disappointment and to speculate that a coverup may have occurred. The Pentagon investigated the matter and has not been able to find any documentary evidence confirming the allegations.[19] Pentagon spokesman Army Maj. Paul Swiergosz said: "We've interviewed 80 people involved with Able Danger, combed through hundreds of thousands of documents and millions of e-mails and have still found no documentation of Mohamed Atta." Weldon claims that the Pentagon ordered the destruction of a large volume of documents related to Able Danger.[20] The Pentagon stated that due to regulations regarding the collection of data on foreign visitors in the United States that the records had been destroyed.[20] FBI director's critique Former FBI director Louis Freeh criticized the 9/11 Commission for ignoring key evidence from Able Danger, which he alleged resulted in false statements being made in the final 9/11 Commission report. For example, the 9/11 Commission concluded that "American intelligence agencies were unaware of Mr. Atta until the day of the attacks," which Mr. Freeh stated appears to be false. He stated that Able Danger had identified Mohammed Atta, the alleged ring-leader of the 19 hijackers, as an al-Qaeda man active in the United States and was tracking him for many months. Further, Director Freeh criticized the Commission for allowing the Pentagon to withhold key evidence about the facts found by Able Danger and concluded that these inadequacies raised serious questions about the credibility of the 9/11 Commission.[21]
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13 april 2016, 07:22 | #25572 | |
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Lees uw eigen bron misschien eens, Gun.
Het gaat om Saoudi's die werkten op de Saoudische ambassade in de VS of op bedrijven. Nergens is een verwijzinng naar hulp door amerikaanse burgers en al zeker niet door de amerikaanse regering. Oogklepjes af voor een keer. Citaat:
Laatst gewijzigd door parcifal : 13 april 2016 om 07:23. |
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13 april 2016, 23:38 | #25573 |
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Ik denk dat ze in Washington deze draad volgen:
"US President Barack Obama will decide whether to declassify 28 pages of sealed documents — which some suspect show a Saudi connection to the 9/11 attacks — within 60 days, according to a former senator who co-chaired the 2002 joint congressional inquiry into the attacks. Former Florida Sen. Bob Graham told Fox News late Tuesday that the White House had informed him that a decision on whether to declassify the documents would be made in one to two months." http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=b48_1460580824 't Werd tijd.
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16 april 2016, 22:36 | #25574 |
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Saudis dreigen om 750 miljard Amerikaanse staatsobligaties te verkopen als het congres een wet goedkeurt die de Saudi overheid verantwoordelijk zou kunnen stellen voor de aanslagen van 9/11.
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16 april 2016, 22:59 | #25575 | |
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Nu zullen we zien wie van het VS-congres olie-wapen-industriebelangen heeft en zal proberen om die publicatie te verhinderen. The game is on.
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Vrije meningsuiting bestaat niet, aangezien de Waarheid niet getoond mag worden, omdat de Grote Leugen regeert. Laatst gewijzigd door Diego Raga : 16 april 2016 om 23:06. |
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17 april 2016, 00:17 | #25576 | ||
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Vuilbaksite info @Gipsy http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-0...ongress-passes Citaat:
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18 april 2016, 15:57 | #25577 |
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Juist, en de kaper die 4 jaar in Hamburg had gestudeerd geen woord Duits ...
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18 april 2016, 16:53 | #25578 | ||
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complot sites vermelden enkel dat Rudi Dekkers Atta aansprak en dat deze gewoon wegwandelde. Maar Dekkers heeft gewoon zelf gezegd dat Atta wel degelijk Duits sprak die gewoon een arrogante klootzak was die niet wou luisteren (en praten met) instructors. http://www.abc.net.au/4corners/atta/...ws/dekkers.htm Citaat:
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18 april 2016, 17:10 | #25579 | |
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http://www.sueddeutsche.de/politik/a...macht-1.850275
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De vuile waarheid over ICE (vanaf 1 min 35") https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mk-LnUYEXuM Nederlandse versie: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kekJgcSdN38 Laatst gewijzigd door Micele : 18 april 2016 om 17:15. |
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19 april 2016, 21:27 | #25580 | |
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Die 28 paginas zijn nog niet binnen :
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"They sell their debt, their privately made paper&ink, push the countries, the world into debt and what they want back are real, tangeble assets, and they won't stop till they own the whole thing. They don't want the debt paid off, just the interest, they want to keep this balanced till they have what they want, all of it." Central Banks |
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