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Antoon
27 april 2004, 23:52
*knip*

dejohan
28 april 2004, 00:04
*plak*

Antoon
28 april 2004, 00:08
*wrijf*

Pelgrim
28 april 2004, 08:32
*frrrrrrrsjt*

Griffin
28 april 2004, 09:57
*kietel*

wb
28 april 2004, 11:06
*zucht*

Pelgrim
28 april 2004, 13:15
*weeral*

Antoon
28 april 2004, 13:17
*pffff*

The Paulus Experience
28 april 2004, 13:24
*Frederick Engels The Principles of Communism Written: October-November 1847;Source: Selected Works, Volume One, p. 81-97;
Publisher: Progress Publishers, Moscow, 1969;First Published: 1914, Eduard Bernstein in the German Social Democratic Party’s Vorwärts!;
Translated: Paul Sweezy;
Online Version: MEA 1993; marxists.org 1999;
Transcribed: Zodiac;HTML Markup: Brian Basgen.
Document Introduction.- 1 -
What is Communism?
Communism is the doctrine of the conditions of the liberation of the proletariat. - 2 -
What is the proletariat?
The proletariat is that class in society which lives entirely from the sale of its labor and does not draw profit from any kind of capital; whose weal and woe, whose life and death, whose sole existence depends on the demand for labor -- hence, on the changing state of business, on the vagaries of unbridled competition. The proletariat, or the class of proletarians, is, in a word, the working class of the 19th century.[1] - 3 -
Proletarians, then, have not always existed?
No. There have always been poor and working classes; and the working class have mostly been poor. But there have not always been workers and poor people living under conditions as they are today; in other words, there have not always been proletarians, any more than there has always been free unbridled competitions. - 4 -
How did the proletariat originate?
The Proletariat originated in the industrial revolution, which took place in England in the last half of the last (18th) century, and which has since then been repeated in all the civilized countries of the world.
This industrial revolution was precipitated by the discovery of the steam engine, various spinning machines, the mechanical loom, and a whole series of other mechanical devices. These machines, which were very expensive and hence could be bought only by big capitalists, altered the whole mode of production and displaced the former workers, because the machines turned out cheaper and better commodities than the workers could produce with their inefficient spinning wheels and handlooms. The machines delivered industry wholly into the hands of the big capitalists and rendered entirely worthless the meagre property of the workers (tools, looms, etc.). The result was that the capitalists soon had everything in their hands and nothing remained to the workers. This marked the introduction of the factory system into the textile industry.
Once the impulse to the introduction of machinery and the factory system had been given, this system spread quickly to all other branches of industry, especially cloth- and book-printing, pottery, and the metal industries.
Labor was more and more divided among the individual workers so that the worker who previously had done a complete piece of work now did only a part of that piece. This division of labor made it possible to produce things faster and cheaper. It reduced the activity of the individual worker to simple, endlessly repeated mechanical motions which could be performed not only as well but much better by a machine. In this way, all these industries fell, one after another, under the dominance of steam, machinery, and the factory system, just as spinning and weaving had already done.
But at the same time, they also fell into the hands of big capitalists, and their workers were deprived of whatever independence remained to them. Gradually, not only genuine manufacture but also handicrafts came within the province of the factory system as big capitalists increasingly displaced the small master craftsmen by setting up huge workshops, which saved many expenses and permitted an elaborate division of labor.
This is how it has come about that in civilized countries at the present time nearly all kinds of labor are performed in factories -- and, in nearly all branches of work, handicrafts and manufacture have been superseded. This process has, to an ever greater degree, ruined the old middle class, especially the small handicraftsmen; it has entirely transformed the condition of the workers; and two new classes have been created which are gradually swallowing up all the others. These are:
(i) The class of big capitalists, who, in all civilized countries, are already in almost exclusive possession of all the means of subsistance and of the instruments (machines, factories) and materials necessary for the production of the means of subsistence. This is the bourgeois class, or the bourgeoisie.
(ii) The class of the wholly propertyless, who are obliged to sell their labor to the bourgeoisie in order to get, in exchange, the means of subsistence for their support. This is called the class of proletarians, or the proletariat. - 5 -
Under what conditions does this sale of the labor of the proletarians to the bourgeoisie take place?
Labor is a commodity, like any other, and its price is therefore determined by exactly the same laws that apply to other commodities. In a regime of big industry or of free competition -- as we shall see, the two come to the same thing -- the price of a commodity is, on the average, always equal to its cost of production. Hence, the price of labor is also equal to the cost of production of labor.
But, the costs of production of labor consist of precisely the quantity of means of subsistence necessary to enable the worker to continue working, and to prevent the working class from dying out. The worker will therefore get no more for his labor than is necessary for this purpose; the price of labor, or the wage, will, in other words, be the lowest, the minimum, required for the maintenance of life.
However, since business is sometimes better and sometimes worse, it follows that the worker sometimes gets more and sometimes gets less for his commodities. But, again, just as the industrialist, on the average of good times and bad, gets no more and no less for his commodities than what they cost, similarly on the average the worker gets no more and no less than his minimum. his economic law of wages operates the more strictly the greater the degree to which big industry has taken possession of all branches of production. - 6 -
What working classes were there before the industrial revolution?
The working classes have always, according to the different stages of development of society, lived in different circumstances and had different relations to the owning and ruling classes. In antiquity, the workers were the slaves of the owners, just as they still are in many backward countries and even in the southern part of the United States.
In the Middle Ages, they were the serfs of the land-owning nobility, as they still are in Hungary, Poland, and Russia. In the Middle Ages, and indeed right up to the industrial revolution, there were also journeymen in the cities who worked in the service of petty bourgeois masters. Gradually, as manufacture developed, these journeymen became manufacturing workers who were even then employed by larger capitalists. - 7 -
In what way do proletarians differ from slaves?
The slave is sold once and for all; the proletarian must sell himself daily and hourly. The individual slave, property of one master, is assured an existence, however miserable it may be, because of the master's interest. The individual proletarian, property as it were of the entire bourgeois class which buys his labor only when someone has need of it, has no secure existence. This existence is assured only to the class as a whole. The slave is outside competition; the proletarian is in it and experiences all its vagaries. The slave counts as a thing, not as a member of society. Thus, the slave can have a better existence than the proletarian, while the proletarian belongs to a higher stage of social development and, himself, stands on a higher social level than the slave.
The slave frees himself when, of all the relations of private property, he abolishes only the relation of slavery and thereby becomes a proletarian; the proletarian can free himself only by abolishing private property in general. etc etc*

Antoon
28 april 2004, 13:25
*burp*

The Paulus Experience
28 april 2004, 13:27
*kapitalist*

Griffin
28 april 2004, 13:59
*leesbril*

Spelev
28 april 2004, 15:02
*hond*

Antoon
28 april 2004, 15:40
*clit* 8)

Spelev
28 april 2004, 15:41
*sebiet GAIA op mijn dak*

Antoon
28 april 2004, 15:44
*tik*

Spelev
28 april 2004, 15:46
*tak*

Herman Desmedt ©HD
28 april 2004, 15:48
*tok*

The Paulus Experience
28 april 2004, 15:48
*toek* :roll:

Spelev
28 april 2004, 15:49
*trckhkhfskvfgùmjlflmdmjffqmaaazffsfk*

The Paulus Experience
28 april 2004, 15:51
***

Herman Desmedt ©HD
28 april 2004, 15:52
qwertuiop[]

Antoon
28 april 2004, 16:18
*tuk!!*

Griffin
28 april 2004, 17:22
*tjok*

Antoon
28 april 2004, 17:44
qwertuiop[]

azertyuiop^$

The Paulus Experience
28 april 2004, 17:46
qsdfjklm

Griffin
28 april 2004, 18:09
*toetsenbordreinigingswerkzaamheden*

Vlaamse Leeuw
28 april 2004, 18:13
*azerty*

parcifal
28 april 2004, 18:22
*geeuw*

* :wink: *

DaBlacky
28 april 2004, 20:48
*Denemarken, Odense*

æøå¤

Percalion
28 april 2004, 20:59
*

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Griffin
29 april 2004, 13:50
http://asl.chat.be/nicks/Nicks/21634.gif

Herman Desmedt ©HD
29 april 2004, 16:07
http://asl.chat.be/nicks/Nicks/21634.gif

Sterk bureelmeubilair ! Waar verkopen ze dat ?

Antoon
29 april 2004, 16:13
*krak*

Philips Inc.
29 april 2004, 16:14
*sigaretje smoren*

Griffin
29 april 2004, 16:44
http://asl.chat.be/nicks/Nicks/21634.gif

Sterk bureelmeubilair ! Waar verkopen ze dat ?

Den Aldi ;)

Herman Desmedt ©HD
29 april 2004, 17:03
@ Griffin

Den Aldi ?
Vandaar dat het nu al terug weg is !

Griffin
29 april 2004, 17:04
@ Griffin

Den Aldi ?
Vandaar dat het nu al terug weg is !

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Nu heb je het zelf gezien! :)

Antoon
29 april 2004, 17:09
@ Griffin

Den Aldi ?
Vandaar dat het nu al terug weg is !

:rofl:

Griffin
29 april 2004, 17:22
@ Griffin

Den Aldi ?
Vandaar dat het nu al terug weg is !

:rofl:

Ej nie lachen gij, 't is al terug! :P :lol:

Antoon
29 april 2004, 17:25
:rofl:

Ej nie lachen gij, 't is al terug! :P :lol:


:cry:

:wink:

Herman Desmedt ©HD
29 april 2004, 17:59
En die computer, is die ook van de Aldi ?

Griffin
29 april 2004, 18:01
En die computer, is die ook van de Aldi ?

't ligt aan de server waar de afbeelding gehost wordt :) da's die met thisislive, die webcamsexsite, realroot :)

Herman Desmedt ©HD
29 april 2004, 19:47
Allez, weer een computer voor de bijl gegaan. ...

Antoon
29 april 2004, 23:50
* :? *

Herman Desmedt ©HD
30 april 2004, 00:41
* :? *

* :?: * :lol: * :wink: * :!: *

Pelgrim
30 april 2004, 08:44
* zeg mannekes *

Herman Desmedt ©HD
1 mei 2004, 04:05
* zeg mannekes *
* wat moet er gezegd worden ? *

Griffin
1 mei 2004, 11:49
* pispaaldelict *

DaBlacky
1 mei 2004, 12:46
*terug uit Denemarken*

Vlaamse Leeuw
1 mei 2004, 12:49
*Hoe was het ginder?*

DaBlacky
1 mei 2004, 12:54
*veel te goed*

*ik wil terug*

Dies
1 mei 2004, 13:14
* dat komt goed uit *

* wij willen namelijk ook dat gij terug naar ginder gaat *

Vlaamse Leeuw
1 mei 2004, 13:15
*En waar ben je juist gewwest?*

*En voor hoelang?*

DaBlacky
1 mei 2004, 21:28
* dat komt goed uit *

* wij willen namelijk ook dat gij terug naar ginder gaat *

*/ignore Dies*

DaBlacky
1 mei 2004, 21:30
*En waar ben je juist gewwest?*

*En voor hoelang?*

*Odense* http://www.pilotage.dk/java/gifs/odense.gif

*1 week. Voor Internationale week ivm school, sociaal werk*

*zeer interessant*

*Wist je dat er Amerikanen bestaan die ook iets interessants te vertellen hebben? ;) *

DaBlacky
1 mei 2004, 21:32
* http://www.encyclopedia.com/html/O/Odense.asp *

Herman Desmedt ©HD
2 mei 2004, 01:29
...

*1 week. Voor Internationale week ivm school, sociaal werk*

*zeer interessant*

*Wist je dat er Amerikanen bestaan die ook iets interessants te vertellen hebben? ;) *

De grote opper-Amerikaan alvast niet.

Wat voor interessants ?

Ook naar Lego-land geweest ?

DaBlacky
2 mei 2004, 18:34
...

*1 week. Voor Internationale week ivm school, sociaal werk*

*zeer interessant*

*Wist je dat er Amerikanen bestaan die ook iets interessants te vertellen hebben? ;) *

De grote opper-Amerikaan alvast niet.

Wat voor interessants ?

Ook naar Lego-land geweest ?

Geen tijd gehad voor Legoland. Volgende vakantie ga ik wel.

Die Amerikaan heeft ons les gegeven over hoe te interviewen van kinderen die eventueel misbruikt zijn en hun ouders. De man werkt 17 jaar bij CPS.

Percalion
2 mei 2004, 18:45
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Gentenaar
3 mei 2004, 15:28
Dat is een belediging! Ik lijk helemaal niet op de aminozuursequentie van het tabaksvirus!

Herman Desmedt ©HD
3 mei 2004, 16:22
Dat is een belediging! Ik lijk helemaal niet op de aminozuursequentie van het tabaksvirus!

Dat kan kloppen, net zoals uwe avatar zal hij in tegenwijzerzin draaien.
(Daar is niets verkeerd mee, want je kan zeggen dat uwe avatar links draait.)

Pelgrim
3 mei 2004, 16:55
sommige levensvormen zijn dus per definitie links!

Gentenaar
3 mei 2004, 17:30
sommige? alle! maar enkel de intelligente hebben het door.

Herman Desmedt ©HD
3 mei 2004, 18:39
Amaai ! Zou ik dan toch "in tel in Gent" zijn ?
Als Gentenaar dat zegt ...

Mijn avatar draait alleen in Toulouse. Gezien ze nu eindelijk 4 van die gevallen hebben kunnen ze de eerste A380 samenvoegen. Tegen het eind van de week zouden we dat op de airbus site moeten kunnen zien.

Zoals gezegd, Airbus heeft zijn site aangepast; www.airbus.com
Beelden binnen een paar dagen !

Percalion
3 mei 2004, 19:27
Dat is een belediging! Ik lijk helemaal niet op de aminozuursequentie van het tabaksvirus!


* excuseer twas niet tegen u maar tegen mijn leraar Nederlands *

Herman Desmedt ©HD
3 mei 2004, 21:37
Dat is een belediging! Ik lijk helemaal niet op de aminozuursequentie van het tabaksvirus!


* excuseer twas niet tegen u maar tegen mijn leraar Nederlands *

Zou die weten wat aminozuren zijn ?

Antoon
3 mei 2004, 21:45
* :D :) :( :o 8O :? 8) :lol: :x :P :oops: :cry: :evil: :twisted: :roll: :wink: :!: :?: :idea: :arrow: :| :mrgreen: :fadein: :fist: 0X :drinking: :angel: :agrue: :evilbat: :bday: :new-alie: :BIG: :grab: :robot: :new-bday: :black: :B-fly: :Fade-col: :bad-word: :eggface: :crazyeye: :morning: :icecream: :infinity: :eating: :lilangel: :lol!: :lying: :microwav: :painting: :multi: :n00b: :olympic: :popcorn: :puppydog: :rainbow1: :rainbowa: *

Herman Desmedt ©HD
3 mei 2004, 21:47
Mooie verzameling ... aminozuren ?

Herman Desmedt ©HD
4 mei 2004, 22:25
Ah Mien Ozuren ?

Pelgrim
5 mei 2004, 09:12
is dat een dorp in Vietnam of zo?

Herman Desmedt ©HD
5 mei 2004, 11:16
Neen dat is die verzuurde Mien die naast die politieker woont.

Herman Desmedt ©HD
5 mei 2004, 23:14
Amaai ! Zou ik dan toch "in tel in Gent" zijn ?
Als Gentenaar dat zegt ...

Mijn avatar draait alleen in Toulouse. Gezien ze nu eindelijk 4 van die gevallen hebben kunnen ze de eerste A380 samenvoegen. Tegen het eind van de week zouden we dat op de airbus site moeten kunnen zien.



Zoals gezegd, Airbus heeft zijn site aangepast; www.airbus.com
Beelden binnen een paar dagen !

Antoon
6 mei 2004, 10:56
*gaap*

Griffin
6 mei 2004, 10:57
Amaai ! Zou ik dan toch "in tel in Gent" zijn ?
Als Gentenaar dat zegt ...

Mijn avatar draait alleen in Toulouse. Gezien ze nu eindelijk 4 van die gevallen hebben kunnen ze de eerste A380 samenvoegen. Tegen het eind van de week zouden we dat op de airbus site moeten kunnen zien.



Zoals gezegd, Airbus heeft zijn site aangepast; www.airbus.com
Beelden binnen een paar dagen !

Bleh kwam die hier in België nergens langs, dat konvooi? :cry:

Herman Desmedt ©HD
6 mei 2004, 12:05
Zoals gezegd, Airbus heeft zijn site aangepast; www.airbus.com
Beelden binnen een paar dagen !

Bleh kwam die hier in België nergens langs, dat konvooi? :cry:

Die convooien heb je al gemist, Alle stuks staan klaar in Toulouse om de eerste eindassemblage te maken. Start morgen 7 Mei 2004 !

Ik dacht ook nog te gaan spotten, maar blijkbaar mag je niet dicht in de buurt komen. De beelden zeggen genoeg niet ?
Binnen pakweg één tot anderhalve maand zouden de eerste grote stukken voor toestel nummer 2 moeten volgen. Dat toestel zou hoogstwaarschijnlijk in Dresden moeten geraken (voor structurele tests onder spanning) dus zouden die convooien richting Duitsland moeten gaan ? We zien nog wel ! Binnen iets meer dan één jaar staat de eerste afgewerkte A380 waarschijnlijk op het vliegtuigsalon van Le Bourget.
Ik ga zeker kijken !

Herman Desmedt ©HD
7 mei 2004, 04:59
Vandaag is het de moment, maar ik denk dat we pas beelden op de site gaan zien na de week-end.