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Knipp
3 juli 2012, 17:43
In his book, The Gift of Death, deconstructionist philosopher Jacques Derrida refers to philosophy as thaumaturgy

Msschn de moeite om die passage op te duikelen en in te schatten ?

eno2
3 juli 2012, 17:46
Zijn filosofen wonderboys ?

Meestal mannetjes van papier die hun eigen recepten zorgvuldig niet op zichzelf toepassen.

Derrida, moet ik nog aan beginnen uit afkeer

Восход-1
3 juli 2012, 17:47
Echt invloed hebben ze niet, he.

Knipp
3 juli 2012, 18:13
Derrida heeft iets geheimzinnig, en ik ontfutsel graag.

Hauntologie, thaumaturgie, ik ben iets op het spoor en ik wil het gewei van dat beest zien.

Another Jack
3 juli 2012, 18:16
Derrida kleedt graag uit, smijt graag alle ballast weg, ik vind dat er in de filosofie veeeel ballast is.
Een absolute vereiste om boeiende Westerse filosofie te schrijven.

Knipp
3 juli 2012, 18:41
het raakt in elk geval aan cultuurvragen die hier ook wel rondspoken...


T Polyphilus (paradoxosalpha) schreef,
2011-09-15 09:01:00

Book Review: The Gift of Death

The principal text of reference for Jacques Derrida's Gift of Death is the piece "Is Technological Civilization a Civilization in Decline, and If So Why?" from Jan Patočka's Heretical Essays on the Philosophy of History, a text concerned to establish a European sense of "responsibility" dependent on Christianity and imperiled in the alleged contemporary Western return to an orgiastic operation of mystery. Derrida highlights the role of the "concern for death" (or "practice of death": Plato's melete thanatou) as a linchpin of the individual awareness of responsibility.

Not overtly siding with Patočka's diagnosis of modern malaise, Derrida is very attentive to the sort of dialectic genealogy in Patočka's essay. He particularly focuses on the ways in which the development of this sense of responsibility is also a maintenance and iterative encryption of a secret, through its orgiastic/daemonic, Platonic, and Christian stages. "Because of this incorporation that envelops demonic or orgiastic mystery, philosophy remains a sort of thaumaturgy even as it accedes to responsibility" (15).

The second chapter has Derrida turning more often directly to Heidegger as an immediate influence on Patočka, as well as to Levinas as a critic in the same tradition. In its third chapter, The Gift of Death spends a great deal of attention on Kierkegaard's Fear and Trembling and sacrificial responsibilty in the context of Patočka's essay. Derrida comes closer, I think, than Kierkegaard does to the real mystery of "the sacrifice of Abraham," as a failed transmission of the initiation of Isaac. But he uses Kierkegaard's language to bootstrap into the fourth and final chapter.

Derrida drives toward his conclusion with a set of reflections on the nature and significance of invisibility--the same invisibility of the Greek lord of the dead (aides-Haides), the unspeakable issuer of commands to Abraham, and the "Father" of Jesus "who sees in secret." Attentive Thelemites may glean some important perspective here on the doctrine of the Knowledge and Conversation of the Holy Guardian Angel in the place of "the heart." And there is also, here and earlier, worthwhile integration of the concepts of sacrifice, secrecy, and the sacred.

At various points in the book, Derrida seems temporarily to accept some sort of theological claims, but he is careful to allow not to demand such acceptance from the reader (e.g., 69). And at the very end he invokes Nietzsche's Genealogy of Morals (which was always behind Patočka's genealogy of responsibility) as a background for observations about "the reversal and infinitization" that exalts the other ("God," if you must) into mystery (115). There is, after all, no law beyond Do what thou wilt. The Christian God sacrifices himself "from love (can you believe it?)" taunts Nietzsche. And Derrida drops the mocking tone to ask whether one truly can, leaving me to wonder what such a possibility of dis/belief can portend if love is the law.

"What does it mean to share a secret?" Derrida asks more than once. Only those who know how to die could tell, and they won't say.

Knipp
3 juli 2012, 18:53
die Thelemieten lijkt me wel een leuk spoor

Восход-1
3 juli 2012, 18:54
Rabelais?

eno2
3 juli 2012, 18:56
Plaats dat toch niet in K&K

Knipp
3 juli 2012, 19:33
Rabelais?

Pak maar Crowley direkt :)

In elk geval heb ik al 1tje gevonden die Derrida aan Crowley linkt

http://thegrumpygerman.wordpress.com/tag/jacques-derrida/

Восход-1
3 juli 2012, 19:36
Lijkt mij niet geheel vergezocht op eerste zicht.

Lof der Zotheid
3 juli 2012, 20:12
Filosofen zijn theoretische papieren tijgers. Dat kan soms interessant zijn, maar doet niets af aan het theoretische aspect.

Knipp
3 juli 2012, 20:21
Lijkt mij niet geheel vergezocht op eerste zicht.

Pff, Toth met een aap erachter ?? ik krijg dat maar niet geconfirmeerd :|