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Ali Asker
8 november 2006, 21:55
Kurdistan Red Crescent collecting donations for Kurdish flood
victims

11/6/2006 KurdishMedia.com

New York (KurdishMedia.com) 6 November 2006: Following flooding in
northern (Turkish-occupied) Kurdistan that has killed tens and dislocated
thousands from their homes, the Kurdistan Red Crescent (Heyva Sor a
Kurdistanê) has issued a call for help and is collecting donations for flood
victims. Wire transfers to the Kurdistan Red Crescent's account in Europe
can be sent to the following account numbers:

IBAN: DE62 5745 0120 0000 1860 98
SWIFT BIC: MALADE51NWD

For more information, visit:
http://heyvasor.com/kurdi/index.php (in Kurdish)
http://heyvasor.com/index.php (in German)

Kurdistan Red Crescent can be reached in Germany at +49 (0) 211
2396392

Baba Bey
8 november 2006, 22:25
"Ali Asker", the Armenian PKK propagandist, wrote
>
> New York (KurdishMedia.com) 6 November 2006: Following flooding in
> northern (Turkish-occupied) Kurdistan that has killed tens and dislocated
> thousands from their homes, the Kurdistan Red Crescent (Heyva Sor a
> Kurdistanê) has issued a call for help and is collecting donations for flood
> victims. Wire transfers to the Kurdistan Red Crescent's account in Europe
> can be sent to the following account numbers:
> IBAN: DE62 5745 0120 0000 1860 98
> SWIFT BIC: MALADE51NWD


WARNING! --------- WARNING! --------- WARNING!

The above account is in reality a bank account of greedy Armenian criminals
who also make propaganda for the PKK terrorist organization!
Do not donate to these Armenian thiefs who just mis-use the Kurds!
Donate to the Turkish Red Crescent or the International Federation of Red Cross
and Red Crescent Societies! See here:
http://www.kizilay.org.tr/index.php?menu1=21
http://www.kizilay.org.tr/
http://donate.ifrc.org/
http://www.ifrc.org/

Ali Asker
8 november 2006, 22:35
"Baba Bey" <babbbaababey@babbaababaabey.org> wrote in message
news:0OCdnT-7W-c01M_YnZ2dnUVZ8sCdnZ2d@giganews.com...
> "Ali Asker", the Armenian PKK propagandist, wrote
>>
>> New York (KurdishMedia.com) 6 November 2006: Following flooding in
>> northern (Turkish-occupied) Kurdistan that has killed tens and dislocated
>> thousands from their homes, the Kurdistan Red Crescent (Heyva Sor a
>> Kurdistanê) has issued a call for help and is collecting donations for
>> flood
>> victims. Wire transfers to the Kurdistan Red Crescent's account in Europe
>> can be sent to the following account numbers:
>> IBAN: DE62 5745 0120 0000 1860 98
>> SWIFT BIC: MALADE51NWD
>
>
> WARNING! --------- WARNING! --------- WARNING!
>
> The above account is in reality a bank account of greedy Armenian
> criminals
> who also make propaganda for the PKK terrorist organization!
> Do not donate to these Armenian thiefs who just mis-use the Kurds!
> Donate to the Turkish Red Crescent or the International Federation of Red
> Cross
> and Red Crescent Societies! See here:

Are you talking about the Turkish Red Crescent who cought with guns, hand
grenads, islamic religious leaflets in Bosnia, Iraq and Palastine! I
remember they were send back home from Bosnia because they refused to treat
Serbian injuries and providing arms to the Bosnian Muslims, Their track was
cought with guns and army supply when it was passing the Kurdistan border to
reach Kerkuk and lately their airplane was cought in Israel when they found
guns, grenades, ambination etc, carried with Turkish red crescent planes to
the Palastanian Hamas organization.



>

Baba Bey
8 november 2006, 22:45
"Ali Asker", the Armenian PKK propagandist, wrote
> "Baba Bey" wrote
> > "Ali Asker", the Armenian PKK propagandist, wrote
> >>
> >> New York (KurdishMedia.com) 6 November 2006: Following flooding in
> >> northern (Turkish-occupied) Kurdistan that has killed tens and dislocated
> >> thousands from their homes, the Kurdistan Red Crescent (Heyva Sor a
> >> Kurdistanê) has issued a call for help and is collecting donations for
> >> flood
> >> victims. Wire transfers to the Kurdistan Red Crescent's account in Europe
> >> can be sent to the following account numbers:
> >> IBAN: DE62 5745 0120 0000 1860 98
> >> SWIFT BIC: MALADE51NWD
> >
> >
> > WARNING! --------- WARNING! --------- WARNING!
> >
> > The above account is in reality a bank account of greedy Armenian
> > criminals who also make propaganda for the PKK terrorist organization!
> > Do not donate to these Armenian thiefs who just mis-use the Kurds!
> > Donate to the Turkish Red Crescent or the International Federation of Red
> > Cross and Red Crescent Societies! See here:
>
> Are you talking about the Turkish Red Crescent who cought with guns, hand
> grenads, islamic religious leaflets in Bosnia, Iraq and Palastine! I
> remember they were send back home from Bosnia because they refused to treat
> Serbian injuries and providing arms to the Bosnian Muslims, Their track was
> cought with guns and army supply when it was passing the Kurdistan border to
> reach Kerkuk and lately their airplane was cought in Israel when they found
> guns, grenades, ambination etc, carried with Turkish red crescent planes to
> the Palastanian Hamas organization.

Yeah, tell us more Armenian tales, you lying criminal P.O.S.!

Ali Asker
8 november 2006, 23:05
"Baba Bey" <babbbaababey@babbaababaabey.org> wrote in message
news:t8ydnWjCSI_T0s_YRVnygA@giganews.com...
> "Ali Asker", the Armenian PKK propagandist, wrote
>> "Baba Bey" wrote
>> > "Ali Asker", the Armenian PKK propagandist, wrote
>> >>
>> >> New York (KurdishMedia.com) 6 November 2006: Following flooding
>> >> in
>> >> northern (Turkish-occupied) Kurdistan that has killed tens and
>> >> dislocated
>> >> thousands from their homes, the Kurdistan Red Crescent (Heyva Sor a
>> >> Kurdistanê) has issued a call for help and is collecting donations for
>> >> flood
>> >> victims. Wire transfers to the Kurdistan Red Crescent's account in
>> >> Europe
>> >> can be sent to the following account numbers:
>> >> IBAN: DE62 5745 0120 0000 1860 98
>> >> SWIFT BIC: MALADE51NWD
>> >
>> >
>> > WARNING! --------- WARNING! --------- WARNING!
>> >
>> > The above account is in reality a bank account of greedy Armenian
>> > criminals who also make propaganda for the PKK terrorist organization!
>> > Do not donate to these Armenian thiefs who just mis-use the Kurds!
>> > Donate to the Turkish Red Crescent or the International Federation of
>> > Red
>> > Cross and Red Crescent Societies! See here:
>>
>> Are you talking about the Turkish Red Crescent who cought with guns, hand
>> grenads, islamic religious leaflets in Bosnia, Iraq and Palastine! I
>> remember they were send back home from Bosnia because they refused to
>> treat
>> Serbian injuries and providing arms to the Bosnian Muslims, Their track
>> was
>> cought with guns and army supply when it was passing the Kurdistan border
>> to
>> reach Kerkuk and lately their airplane was cought in Israel when they
>> found
>> guns, grenades, ambination etc, carried with Turkish red crescent planes
>> to
>> the Palastanian Hamas organization.
>
> Yeah, tell us more Armenian tales, you lying criminal P.O.S.!

Watch your language Turk and I am not an Armenian, a Kurd!

Do you understand, I am a KURD!!!!

>

Baba Bey
8 november 2006, 23:55
"Ali Asker", the Greco-Armenian hate propagandist financed by EU funds Greece and S.Cyprus get from the EU, wrote
> "Baba Bey" wrote
> >
> > Yeah, tell us more Armenian tales, you lying criminal P.O.S.!
>
> Watch your language Turk and I am not an Armenian, a Kurd!
> Do you understand, I am a KURD!!!!

You are an Armenian!
Whom do you think to cheat, you P.O.S.?!
Armenian propaganda just works this way: by mis-using others,
ie. by "impersonating" others, acting on behalf of others!
One just needs to see your countless Anti-Turkish, and
by accident some Anti-Kurdish, messages in the archive:
http://groups.google.com/groups/search?hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&q=Ali+Asker+PKK&qt_s=Search


************************************************** ********************
THE PROOF THAT "Ali Asker" IS NOT A KURD, BUT AN ARMENIAN WHO MISUSES THE KURDS!
The Armenian propaganda machinery just works this way: by misusing others!

He has posted the following message (and other similar ones).

The subject reads "KURDS RENEW MASSACRES OF ARMENIANS"

Now, ask yourself whether a Kurd ever would post such a message? :-)

Then ask yourself who else would post such a message...
Right, "Ali Asker" IS AN ARMENIAN!

(BTW, don't believe the message below, as MOST of these propaganda
messages are simply FABRICATED by the Armenian propaganda machinery,
to whom also "Ali Asker" and "Armen" belong!!!)


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! KURDS RENEW MASSACRES
! NEW YORK TIMES
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! Attacks on Christians in Armenia Become Violent
! --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
!
! MAY 1, 1915
!
! JULFA, Transcaucasia, April 29, (via Petrograd and London, April 30.)-- A
!renewal of the recent massacres of Christians Armenia is in the progress in
!the whole district of Lake Van.
!
!Conflict between the Armenians and the Kurds are daily becoming more
!obdurate. An exceptionally fierce engagement occurred today at Shatasch.
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torresD
12 november 2006, 10:25
George Bush is a danger to us here -
his friendship is a curse in disguise.

His decision to embark on
the Iraq War was a patently
anti-Israel one.
http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/pages/ShArt.jhtml?itemNo=786214&contrassID=2&subContrassID=4&sbSubContrassID=0
A friendship in disguise
By Yossi Sarid

This Tuesday was a doubly good day:
The Democrats won and the Republicans lost.

My father and mother once told me that
they could have emigrated from Poland
to the United States - they had a visa -
but decided to move to Palestine,
the Land of Israel.

My parents were sworn Zionists.

Had they settled in the United States,
some 80 years ago, and made me a U.S.
citizen by birth,

I would never vote for George Bush.

I cannot support the president's
positions on abortions,
homosexuals,
stem-cell research;

I could never put my faith in
someone who brushes aside the
Kyoto Protocol,

who turns a cold shoulder to
the issue of global warming;

in someone who didn't have
the wherewithal to come to
the assistance of the
New Orleans flood victims;

in someone who wiretaps hundreds
of thousands of citizens in violation
of the law and the Constitution,
who holds detainees without trial,

who condones torture and the
whisking away of suspects into
"black holes";

in someone who is driven by
religious-fundamentalist urges
rather than cool-headed
realpolitik considerations.

My parents decided my fate,
and I am an Israeli citizen -
thank God, and Mom and Dad -
and it is not fitting for me
to intervene in the internal
affairs of a foreign power.

But I am still allowed to appeal to you,
to all the GA participants, and,
as an Israeli fraught with worry,
to express my opinion and voice my wish.

Not only am I allowed to,
it is also my duty to my
country and to the people
of whom I am a part.

With the global and Middle
Eastern policies he promotes,

George Bush is a danger to us here -
his friendship is a curse in disguise.

His decision to embark on
the Iraq War was a patently
anti-Israel one.

The fatal embroilment in Iraq
leaves no room for dealing with
Iran and stepping in in time to
prevent its nuclear armament,

which threatens the "Great Satan"
far less than it does the "Little Satan."

The United States has lost its
superpower deterrence in Iraq,

and all the crazies of the world,
wherever they may be,
already know that the U.S.
bite is not as bad as its
bark and can be scoffed at;

Ahmadinejad is celebrating,
and his North Korean
counterpart has joined
the party.

And not only has deterrence
through force been lost,
moral deterrence has vanished,
too:

Today,
any war criminal can scrub
and launder his misdeeds
with U.S. soap;

if the United States
can disregard the Geneva
Conventions, anyone can.

The doomed war is paralyzing
a stunned and reeling government,
freezing any political initiative
and abandoning our region to chaos.

America the hurt and offended
is now shaking its finger at
Iran and Syria,

at Hezbollah and Hamas;

but none of them appears
very impressed or perturbed.

America doesn't talk to scumbags -
Washington's ridiculous policy,
which it dictates to Israel, too.

Duty and responsibility, however,
call for very serious consideration
of the Syrian president's talk of
wanting a peace settlement;

duty and responsibility
urge a more intense effort
to bolster Mahmoud Abbas,
not only with empty talk
and false promises,

but with real action, too.

But American-Republican interests
push vital Israeli interests aside;

and it seems like everyone is
waiting for the inevitable
violent outbreak that is
on the way.

In the recent Lebanon war, too,
Bush-oriented considerations
intervened in Olmert-oriented
considerations,

and vice versa -
and the terrible
outcome was plain to see.

It is not fair for Washington to
hitch Jerusalem to its faltering
war machine.

Sooner or later, and apparently sooner,
the United States will withdraw its
forces from Iraq -
it has no alternative.

It is therefore important
and urgent to remember -
and I remind you, too -
that America is far from
the epicenter,

whereas Israel is very close to it.

We remain here,
with all the inciting and
rabble-rousing fundamentalists,

and all that they would like to
do to America will be brought
down upon us.

Even the Iraqi prime minister,
the protege of the
Bush-Cheney-Rumsfeld
warring family,

is beginning to distance himself
from his arrogant and obtuse patrons.

It is high time the Israeli
prime minister also began
conducting less slavish and
more independent policies for
the good of his own country -
our country.

The trauma of Vietnam will pale
in comparison to the trauma of Iraq,
and many years will pass before the
United States can again play an
active and beneficial role in
our poor region.

And if this is the case,
let Israel save itself without
having to carry the U.S. baggage
on its back,

as if it were the messenger
boy of a lost and senseless
administration.

Ehud Olmert is visiting the
United States this week;

his status in the opinion
polls is at a miserable low,
similar to that of Bush.

He will also be
participating
in your assembly.

It would not be good if
Olmert were to return to
Israel and continue to
use the same old excuses
for his shortcomings and
for dragging his feet -

"the United States thinks the same"

and

"the Jews of America think so, too."

choro-nik
12 november 2006, 17:45
Very thought provoking, I must say, and also contains a lot of home truths.
And very Jewish too. Must archive this one for future reference.
--
choro-nik
*******
"torresD" <torresd30@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:bHB5h.5422$l25.4055@newsread4.news.pas.earthl ink.net...
> George Bush is a danger to us here -
> his friendship is a curse in disguise.
>
> His decision to embark on
> the Iraq War was a patently
> anti-Israel one.
> http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/pages/ShArt.jhtml?itemNo=786214&contrassID=2&subContrassID=4&sbSubContrassID=0
> A friendship in disguise
> By Yossi Sarid
>
> This Tuesday was a doubly good day:
> The Democrats won and the Republicans lost.
>
> My father and mother once told me that
> they could have emigrated from Poland
> to the United States - they had a visa -
> but decided to move to Palestine,
> the Land of Israel.
>
> My parents were sworn Zionists.
>
> Had they settled in the United States,
> some 80 years ago, and made me a U.S.
> citizen by birth,
>
> I would never vote for George Bush.
>
> I cannot support the president's
> positions on abortions,
> homosexuals,
> stem-cell research;
>
> I could never put my faith in
> someone who brushes aside the
> Kyoto Protocol,
>
> who turns a cold shoulder to
> the issue of global warming;
>
> in someone who didn't have
> the wherewithal to come to
> the assistance of the
> New Orleans flood victims;
>
> in someone who wiretaps hundreds
> of thousands of citizens in violation
> of the law and the Constitution,
> who holds detainees without trial,
>
> who condones torture and the
> whisking away of suspects into
> "black holes";
>
> in someone who is driven by
> religious-fundamentalist urges
> rather than cool-headed
> realpolitik considerations.
>
> My parents decided my fate,
> and I am an Israeli citizen -
> thank God, and Mom and Dad -
> and it is not fitting for me
> to intervene in the internal
> affairs of a foreign power.
>
> But I am still allowed to appeal to you,
> to all the GA participants, and,
> as an Israeli fraught with worry,
> to express my opinion and voice my wish.
>
> Not only am I allowed to,
> it is also my duty to my
> country and to the people
> of whom I am a part.
>
> With the global and Middle
> Eastern policies he promotes,
>
> George Bush is a danger to us here -
> his friendship is a curse in disguise.
>
> His decision to embark on
> the Iraq War was a patently
> anti-Israel one.
>
> The fatal embroilment in Iraq
> leaves no room for dealing with
> Iran and stepping in in time to
> prevent its nuclear armament,
>
> which threatens the "Great Satan"
> far less than it does the "Little Satan."
>
> The United States has lost its
> superpower deterrence in Iraq,
>
> and all the crazies of the world,
> wherever they may be,
> already know that the U.S.
> bite is not as bad as its
> bark and can be scoffed at;
>
> Ahmadinejad is celebrating,
> and his North Korean
> counterpart has joined
> the party.
>
> And not only has deterrence
> through force been lost,
> moral deterrence has vanished,
> too:
>
> Today,
> any war criminal can scrub
> and launder his misdeeds
> with U.S. soap;
>
> if the United States
> can disregard the Geneva
> Conventions, anyone can.
>
> The doomed war is paralyzing
> a stunned and reeling government,
> freezing any political initiative
> and abandoning our region to chaos.
>
> America the hurt and offended
> is now shaking its finger at
> Iran and Syria,
>
> at Hezbollah and Hamas;
>
> but none of them appears
> very impressed or perturbed.
>
> America doesn't talk to scumbags -
> Washington's ridiculous policy,
> which it dictates to Israel, too.
>
> Duty and responsibility, however,
> call for very serious consideration
> of the Syrian president's talk of
> wanting a peace settlement;
>
> duty and responsibility
> urge a more intense effort
> to bolster Mahmoud Abbas,
> not only with empty talk
> and false promises,
>
> but with real action, too.
>
> But American-Republican interests
> push vital Israeli interests aside;
>
> and it seems like everyone is
> waiting for the inevitable
> violent outbreak that is
> on the way.
>
> In the recent Lebanon war, too,
> Bush-oriented considerations
> intervened in Olmert-oriented
> considerations,
>
> and vice versa -
> and the terrible
> outcome was plain to see.
>
> It is not fair for Washington to
> hitch Jerusalem to its faltering
> war machine.
>
> Sooner or later, and apparently sooner,
> the United States will withdraw its
> forces from Iraq -
> it has no alternative.
>
> It is therefore important
> and urgent to remember -
> and I remind you, too -
> that America is far from
> the epicenter,
>
> whereas Israel is very close to it.
>
> We remain here,
> with all the inciting and
> rabble-rousing fundamentalists,
>
> and all that they would like to
> do to America will be brought
> down upon us.
>
> Even the Iraqi prime minister,
> the protege of the
> Bush-Cheney-Rumsfeld
> warring family,
>
> is beginning to distance himself
> from his arrogant and obtuse patrons.
>
> It is high time the Israeli
> prime minister also began
> conducting less slavish and
> more independent policies for
> the good of his own country -
> our country.
>
> The trauma of Vietnam will pale
> in comparison to the trauma of Iraq,
> and many years will pass before the
> United States can again play an
> active and beneficial role in
> our poor region.
>
> And if this is the case,
> let Israel save itself without
> having to carry the U.S. baggage
> on its back,
>
> as if it were the messenger
> boy of a lost and senseless
> administration.
>
> Ehud Olmert is visiting the
> United States this week;
>
> his status in the opinion
> polls is at a miserable low,
> similar to that of Bush.
>
> He will also be
> participating
> in your assembly.
>
> It would not be good if
> Olmert were to return to
> Israel and continue to
> use the same old excuses
> for his shortcomings and
> for dragging his feet -
>
> "the United States thinks the same"
>
> and
>
> "the Jews of America think so, too."
>
>
>
>
>
>