Baba Bey
18 november 2006, 01:25
Armenian treason and collaborating with the enemy in WWI
Armenians were one of the ethnic groups within the Turkish (Ottoman) Empire.
In WWI Armenians in Eastern Turkey treasoned by collaborating with the enemy
and were therefore deported to the South of the Empire.
The massive Armenian alliance with the Empire's enemies ignited a cycle of
massacre and counter-massacre. As self-preservation is the first law of nations,
in 1915 Ottoman officials ordered the relocation of its politically suspect
Armenian population then living in militarily sensitive zones to its territory
now known as Syria. Armenians in Istanbul and elsewhere outside these national
security areas were left generally undisturbed.
The Armenians call this relocation action of 1915 a "genocide" (sic!)
Below texts show that the deportation was neccessary and legitimate,
since these Armenians were fighting their own war for an independency
from the Turkish Empire while the Empire was in war with France, England,
and Russia in WWI. The Armenians sided with the invading enemy armies
as even their own documents and sources prove this clearly:
================================================== =================
WWI
(Attention: contains some Armenian propaganda)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Armenian_militia
"
Armenian militia
Armenian militia (Armenian irregular units, or Armenian Cethes), better known
by Armenians as Fedayee (sic!), is a term referring to Armenian guerrillas who
voluntarily leave their families in order to fight for Armenians.
....
The total number of guerrillas in these irregular bands was 40-50,000,
according to Boghos Nubar, the president of the "Armenian National Delegation":
"In the Caucasus, where, without mentioning the 150,000 Armenians in the
Imperial Russian Army, more than 40,000 of their volunteers contributed
to the liberation of a portion of the Armenian vilayets, and where, under
the command of their leaders, Antranik and Nazerbekoff, they, alone among
the peoples of the Caucasus, offered resistance to the Turkish armies,
from the beginning of the Bolshevist withdrawal right up to the signing
of an armistice."[2]
"
-------------------------------------------------------------------
(Attention: contains some Armenian propaganda)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Armenian_volunteer_units
"
Armenian volunteer units
Armenian volunteer units were Armenian soldiers in Russian, French and British armies
during the World War I. The French volunteer units were named as French Armenian Legion,
which has its own page. Also there were Armenian militia fought under the control
Armenian Revolutionary Federation. Majority of these units support the military
activities at Middle Eastern theatre of World War I. Most famous commanders of these
units were on alongside the Russian army units, such as Andranik Toros Ozanian whom
was the commander of Armenian volunteer units within the Russian army.
The origin of these military units are also varied. There were many Armenian units
which were escaped from Ottomans such as former Ottoman Parliamentary representatives
Karekin Pastirmaciyan (Erzurum) and Hamparsum Boyaciyan, led the Armenian units in
defending the Western Armenia.
Under Russian Army
There were 20,000 Armenian Volunteers [1] under the unit that enetered to Van
On May 16 1915 which these Armenian battalions led Russian regulars into Van.[2] [3]
By October 15, under heavy fight around the region Lake Van, these battalions had
lost five hundred (Armenian soldiers) and there were more then twelve hundred
wounded or missing. [4]
Around 1916, more than 1000 of Armenian soldiers quit from Tsarist army and joint
to Armenian irregular units (Armenian militia)which most of them will be united
one more time under Democratic Republic of Armenia. [5] In 1918, Andranik, major
general, was controlling soldiers from the old Russian army (note: 1918 old Tsarist
army was dissolved; referring to Armenians whose origin was Russia),
and 150,000 Armenians who had volunteered from all over the world.
....
"
-------------------------------------------------------------------
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/French_Armenian_Legion
"
French Armenian Legion
The Armenian Legion was a foreign legion unit within French Army which
was founded during World War I. It was one of the Armenian volunteer
units beside the Armenian militia fought against the Ottoman Empire.
The initial name of the legion was "La Légion d'Orient" (The Eastern Legion) [1].
It was renamed as "La Légion Arménienne" (The Armenian Legion) in February 1st, 1919.
....
Signed in Paris by General Roques, Minister of War, and General Lacaze, Minister of Navy...
....
Several Armenian organizations pledged contribution to form several battalions
under the planned Armenian Legion.
....
- The aim of creating the Legion was to allow Armenians' contribution to
the liberation (sic!) of Cilicia region in Ottoman Empire and help them
to realize their national aspirations of creating a state in that region.
- The Legion was to fight only Turks and only in Clicia.
- The Legion was to become the core of a planned future Armenian Army.
The number of volunteers was an equivalent of 6 battalions,
each containing 800 volunteers, and another 6 battalions was planned
to be formed. Armenian committees were organizing the conscription process
to recruit these soldiers in France and United States.
....
After the initial training in Cyprus, the Armenian Legion was first
deployed in Palestine, to help French and British armies against
Ottoman and German armies.
Following this campaign, they were deployed in Anatolia (Asia Minor)
according to the initial decisions. They were active in the cities
of Adana and Mersin. [4]
In May 1919, the Armenians declared an independent state in Clicia.
However this state was short lived as France disbanded the Armenian
Legion and recognized Turkey's sovereignty over the region in 1920.
"
-------------------------------------------------------------------
(Attention: contains some Armenian propaganda)
http://www.hairenik.com/armenianweekly/august_september/history002.html
"
Armenian Legion to be Featured in ALMA Exhibit
WATERTOWN, MA-An exhibit honoring the Armenian Legion (Legion d'Orient)
will open at the Armenian Library and Museum of America (ALMA)
on September 23, 2001, and continue for several months. This exhibit
coincides with the 83rd anniversary of the historic battle of Arara,
which took place on September 19, 1918. The Armenian Legion, 1916-1920,
was a volunteer regiment organized on the basis of the October 1916
Sykes-Picot Accord reached in London between Mark Sykes (England) and
George Picot (France).
The French government defined the principles of the volunteer movement,
stating that only Armenians and Arabs could become legionnaires, the
commanders would be French, and the French government would provide for
the legion's expenses. In 1918, the Armenian Legion, comprised of four
companies of volunteers from throughout the Diaspora including a core
of survivors of Musa Dagh, numbered about 5,000 and were to participate
in wartime operations on the Syrian-Palestine front against the Turkish army.
In exchange, France promised to give autonomy to Cilicia Armenia after the war.
As part of the Allied Forces under command of Edmund Allenby, the Armenian Legion
received its military baptism in the Battle of Arara in Palestine, spearheading
the assault from a central position and destroying the Turko-German forces.
The victory marked the collapse of the Turkish army and the British forces
proceeded to Aleppo. In November-December 1918, the Armenian Legion entered
Cilicia, occupying sites of strategic importance.
In 1920, France secretly changed its policy toward Turkey, breaking its promise
of granting autonomy to Cilicia and dissolving the Armenian Legion.
This betrayal deprived Cilician Armenians of the means to defend themselves
against Turkish forces, resulting in renewed atrocities by Kemalist forces.
The exhibit will focus on the events from the perspective of the volunteers
from America, with photographs and memorabilia saved by the families of the
legionnaires, along with descriptive narratives.
"
-------------------------------------------------------------------
(Attention: contains much Armenian propaganda; but it's interessting... :-)
http://tekeyan.kronotech.com/Cilicia/homeland.htm
"
According to the Sayce-Picot agreement, France was to get the most of
the Cilician province. The French command could depend on the Armenian
battalion of the Orient Legion. Instituted in 1916 upon the initiative
of Boghos Nubar Pasha, its composition was 95 percent Armenians and
included survivors of Musa Dagh and volunteers from Europe and the
United States. Under the leadership of Lieutenant Colonel Romieu,
It had fought in Palestine and Syria.
In regards to the articles of the Armistice of Mudros, signed between
England representing the allies with Turkey. On October 31, 1918,
Anglo-French troops debarked in Alexandretta. On November 28, 1918,
launched the freeing operation, aimed to create an Armenian national
home in Cilicia, under French protection. The Armenian Legion followed
the withdrawal of Turkish troops and entered Cilicia.
Responding to the French High Commissioner George Picot, 170,000 survivors
of the massacres repatriated by the French authority to Cilicia, to reorganize
they're national home. The workshop of restoration and rebuilding the
country was going on. The churches were reopen, the Mersin harbor repaired,
the commerce and the artisan flourished. And during two years, Cilician Armenia
rounded with great hope, and cheer was dominated all over the population.
Alas soon after the restoration of peace, France made a secret agreement
with the Turks to withdraw from Cilicia, so turned forlorn hope into despair.
The withdrawal of France from Cilicia, 1921-1923, undoubtedly opens up the
way for further attacks by the Turks upon unprotected Armenians in Cilicia.
New massacres started again, where killed more than 40 thousand souls.
After the Franco-Kemalist treaty, the Armenian survivors scattered through,
Syria, Lebanon and elsewhere.
"
================================================== =================
WWII: 18,000 Armenians helped the NAZI army
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Armenian_Legion
"The Armenian Legion was the name given to the 812th Armenian Battalion
which was a foreign unit comprised of about 18,000 Armenians that were
conscripted into the German Wehrmacht during World War II.
....
Nazi Germany's leader at the time, Adolf Hitler, expressed his doubts
on the Armenian and other Soviet battalions; remarking: "I don't know
about these Georgians. They do not belong to the Turkic peoples...
I consider only the Muslims to be reliable....All others I deem unreliable.
For the time being I consider the formation of these battalions of purely
Caucasian peoples very risky, while I don't see any danger in the
establishment of purely Muslim units....In spite of all declarations
from Rosenberg and the military, I don't trust the Armenians either".[5]
American historian Alexander Dallin notes that Armenian and Georgian
battalions were later sent to the Netherlands as a result of Hitler's
distrust for them, many of which deserted.[6]
....
"
================================================== =================
Some related links:
http://www.turkla.com/yazar.php?mid=435&yid=4
http://www.turkishembassy.org/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=64&Itemid=257
http://www.ataa.org/ataa/ref/b_fein.html
http://www.tallarmeniantale.com/weems-USA-genocide.htm
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Middle_Eastern_theatre_of_World_War_I
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caucasus_Campaign
Armenians were one of the ethnic groups within the Turkish (Ottoman) Empire.
In WWI Armenians in Eastern Turkey treasoned by collaborating with the enemy
and were therefore deported to the South of the Empire.
The massive Armenian alliance with the Empire's enemies ignited a cycle of
massacre and counter-massacre. As self-preservation is the first law of nations,
in 1915 Ottoman officials ordered the relocation of its politically suspect
Armenian population then living in militarily sensitive zones to its territory
now known as Syria. Armenians in Istanbul and elsewhere outside these national
security areas were left generally undisturbed.
The Armenians call this relocation action of 1915 a "genocide" (sic!)
Below texts show that the deportation was neccessary and legitimate,
since these Armenians were fighting their own war for an independency
from the Turkish Empire while the Empire was in war with France, England,
and Russia in WWI. The Armenians sided with the invading enemy armies
as even their own documents and sources prove this clearly:
================================================== =================
WWI
(Attention: contains some Armenian propaganda)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Armenian_militia
"
Armenian militia
Armenian militia (Armenian irregular units, or Armenian Cethes), better known
by Armenians as Fedayee (sic!), is a term referring to Armenian guerrillas who
voluntarily leave their families in order to fight for Armenians.
....
The total number of guerrillas in these irregular bands was 40-50,000,
according to Boghos Nubar, the president of the "Armenian National Delegation":
"In the Caucasus, where, without mentioning the 150,000 Armenians in the
Imperial Russian Army, more than 40,000 of their volunteers contributed
to the liberation of a portion of the Armenian vilayets, and where, under
the command of their leaders, Antranik and Nazerbekoff, they, alone among
the peoples of the Caucasus, offered resistance to the Turkish armies,
from the beginning of the Bolshevist withdrawal right up to the signing
of an armistice."[2]
"
-------------------------------------------------------------------
(Attention: contains some Armenian propaganda)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Armenian_volunteer_units
"
Armenian volunteer units
Armenian volunteer units were Armenian soldiers in Russian, French and British armies
during the World War I. The French volunteer units were named as French Armenian Legion,
which has its own page. Also there were Armenian militia fought under the control
Armenian Revolutionary Federation. Majority of these units support the military
activities at Middle Eastern theatre of World War I. Most famous commanders of these
units were on alongside the Russian army units, such as Andranik Toros Ozanian whom
was the commander of Armenian volunteer units within the Russian army.
The origin of these military units are also varied. There were many Armenian units
which were escaped from Ottomans such as former Ottoman Parliamentary representatives
Karekin Pastirmaciyan (Erzurum) and Hamparsum Boyaciyan, led the Armenian units in
defending the Western Armenia.
Under Russian Army
There were 20,000 Armenian Volunteers [1] under the unit that enetered to Van
On May 16 1915 which these Armenian battalions led Russian regulars into Van.[2] [3]
By October 15, under heavy fight around the region Lake Van, these battalions had
lost five hundred (Armenian soldiers) and there were more then twelve hundred
wounded or missing. [4]
Around 1916, more than 1000 of Armenian soldiers quit from Tsarist army and joint
to Armenian irregular units (Armenian militia)which most of them will be united
one more time under Democratic Republic of Armenia. [5] In 1918, Andranik, major
general, was controlling soldiers from the old Russian army (note: 1918 old Tsarist
army was dissolved; referring to Armenians whose origin was Russia),
and 150,000 Armenians who had volunteered from all over the world.
....
"
-------------------------------------------------------------------
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/French_Armenian_Legion
"
French Armenian Legion
The Armenian Legion was a foreign legion unit within French Army which
was founded during World War I. It was one of the Armenian volunteer
units beside the Armenian militia fought against the Ottoman Empire.
The initial name of the legion was "La Légion d'Orient" (The Eastern Legion) [1].
It was renamed as "La Légion Arménienne" (The Armenian Legion) in February 1st, 1919.
....
Signed in Paris by General Roques, Minister of War, and General Lacaze, Minister of Navy...
....
Several Armenian organizations pledged contribution to form several battalions
under the planned Armenian Legion.
....
- The aim of creating the Legion was to allow Armenians' contribution to
the liberation (sic!) of Cilicia region in Ottoman Empire and help them
to realize their national aspirations of creating a state in that region.
- The Legion was to fight only Turks and only in Clicia.
- The Legion was to become the core of a planned future Armenian Army.
The number of volunteers was an equivalent of 6 battalions,
each containing 800 volunteers, and another 6 battalions was planned
to be formed. Armenian committees were organizing the conscription process
to recruit these soldiers in France and United States.
....
After the initial training in Cyprus, the Armenian Legion was first
deployed in Palestine, to help French and British armies against
Ottoman and German armies.
Following this campaign, they were deployed in Anatolia (Asia Minor)
according to the initial decisions. They were active in the cities
of Adana and Mersin. [4]
In May 1919, the Armenians declared an independent state in Clicia.
However this state was short lived as France disbanded the Armenian
Legion and recognized Turkey's sovereignty over the region in 1920.
"
-------------------------------------------------------------------
(Attention: contains some Armenian propaganda)
http://www.hairenik.com/armenianweekly/august_september/history002.html
"
Armenian Legion to be Featured in ALMA Exhibit
WATERTOWN, MA-An exhibit honoring the Armenian Legion (Legion d'Orient)
will open at the Armenian Library and Museum of America (ALMA)
on September 23, 2001, and continue for several months. This exhibit
coincides with the 83rd anniversary of the historic battle of Arara,
which took place on September 19, 1918. The Armenian Legion, 1916-1920,
was a volunteer regiment organized on the basis of the October 1916
Sykes-Picot Accord reached in London between Mark Sykes (England) and
George Picot (France).
The French government defined the principles of the volunteer movement,
stating that only Armenians and Arabs could become legionnaires, the
commanders would be French, and the French government would provide for
the legion's expenses. In 1918, the Armenian Legion, comprised of four
companies of volunteers from throughout the Diaspora including a core
of survivors of Musa Dagh, numbered about 5,000 and were to participate
in wartime operations on the Syrian-Palestine front against the Turkish army.
In exchange, France promised to give autonomy to Cilicia Armenia after the war.
As part of the Allied Forces under command of Edmund Allenby, the Armenian Legion
received its military baptism in the Battle of Arara in Palestine, spearheading
the assault from a central position and destroying the Turko-German forces.
The victory marked the collapse of the Turkish army and the British forces
proceeded to Aleppo. In November-December 1918, the Armenian Legion entered
Cilicia, occupying sites of strategic importance.
In 1920, France secretly changed its policy toward Turkey, breaking its promise
of granting autonomy to Cilicia and dissolving the Armenian Legion.
This betrayal deprived Cilician Armenians of the means to defend themselves
against Turkish forces, resulting in renewed atrocities by Kemalist forces.
The exhibit will focus on the events from the perspective of the volunteers
from America, with photographs and memorabilia saved by the families of the
legionnaires, along with descriptive narratives.
"
-------------------------------------------------------------------
(Attention: contains much Armenian propaganda; but it's interessting... :-)
http://tekeyan.kronotech.com/Cilicia/homeland.htm
"
According to the Sayce-Picot agreement, France was to get the most of
the Cilician province. The French command could depend on the Armenian
battalion of the Orient Legion. Instituted in 1916 upon the initiative
of Boghos Nubar Pasha, its composition was 95 percent Armenians and
included survivors of Musa Dagh and volunteers from Europe and the
United States. Under the leadership of Lieutenant Colonel Romieu,
It had fought in Palestine and Syria.
In regards to the articles of the Armistice of Mudros, signed between
England representing the allies with Turkey. On October 31, 1918,
Anglo-French troops debarked in Alexandretta. On November 28, 1918,
launched the freeing operation, aimed to create an Armenian national
home in Cilicia, under French protection. The Armenian Legion followed
the withdrawal of Turkish troops and entered Cilicia.
Responding to the French High Commissioner George Picot, 170,000 survivors
of the massacres repatriated by the French authority to Cilicia, to reorganize
they're national home. The workshop of restoration and rebuilding the
country was going on. The churches were reopen, the Mersin harbor repaired,
the commerce and the artisan flourished. And during two years, Cilician Armenia
rounded with great hope, and cheer was dominated all over the population.
Alas soon after the restoration of peace, France made a secret agreement
with the Turks to withdraw from Cilicia, so turned forlorn hope into despair.
The withdrawal of France from Cilicia, 1921-1923, undoubtedly opens up the
way for further attacks by the Turks upon unprotected Armenians in Cilicia.
New massacres started again, where killed more than 40 thousand souls.
After the Franco-Kemalist treaty, the Armenian survivors scattered through,
Syria, Lebanon and elsewhere.
"
================================================== =================
WWII: 18,000 Armenians helped the NAZI army
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Armenian_Legion
"The Armenian Legion was the name given to the 812th Armenian Battalion
which was a foreign unit comprised of about 18,000 Armenians that were
conscripted into the German Wehrmacht during World War II.
....
Nazi Germany's leader at the time, Adolf Hitler, expressed his doubts
on the Armenian and other Soviet battalions; remarking: "I don't know
about these Georgians. They do not belong to the Turkic peoples...
I consider only the Muslims to be reliable....All others I deem unreliable.
For the time being I consider the formation of these battalions of purely
Caucasian peoples very risky, while I don't see any danger in the
establishment of purely Muslim units....In spite of all declarations
from Rosenberg and the military, I don't trust the Armenians either".[5]
American historian Alexander Dallin notes that Armenian and Georgian
battalions were later sent to the Netherlands as a result of Hitler's
distrust for them, many of which deserted.[6]
....
"
================================================== =================
Some related links:
http://www.turkla.com/yazar.php?mid=435&yid=4
http://www.turkishembassy.org/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=64&Itemid=257
http://www.ataa.org/ataa/ref/b_fein.html
http://www.tallarmeniantale.com/weems-USA-genocide.htm
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Middle_Eastern_theatre_of_World_War_I
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caucasus_Campaign