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democratsteve 24 december 2004 15:52

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Oorspronkelijk geplaatst door Wreker
Als Bush klaar is met kutland Irak : op naar kutland Iran!

De islamieten zijn immers toch te stom om in hun eigen landen orde op zaken te stellen.

Ja! Laat ons vooral een voorbeeld nemen aan de VS en hoe "beschaafd" zij omgaan met "lastige" kinderen de laatste tijd.
Alstublieft.


7-Year-Old Arrested for Assault
MONTICELLO, FL-September 29, 2004 — The mother of a seven-year-old Florida boy says he's too young to have been arrested, booked and taken to a juvenile facility.
Sheriff's officials in Monticello say they didn't have a choice because a warrant for battery charges had been issued for the child. He's four-foot-six and weights 60 pounds.
He's accused of hitting a classmate, a teacher and a principal, and scratching a school resource officer. But the boy's family has retained a lawyer and disputes the official account of what happened. The lawyer says the boy has an attention deficit disorder
The mother of Johnnie Lee Morris – whose name was released by the attorney – says he was held in detention for several hours.
The boy is under house arrest.
(Copyright 2004 by the Associated Press. All rights reserved.)


8-year-old Arrested, Taken to Adult Jail For Throwing Basketball at Child
Lubbock Online | August 31 2004
ESPANOLA, N.M. (AP) — An Espanola third-grader was handcuffed and arrested by police after hitting another student with a basketball, the child's mother and her lawyer say.
"The Legislature never envisioned that the law would be used to lock an 8-year-old in any jail, especially an adult jail," attorney Sheri Raphaelson said.
"This is the most egregious example of poor judgment by police that I've ever seen in my 15 years of practicing law," she said.
According to a juvenile citation for disorderly conduct, Jerry Trujillo was arrested Thursday and booked into the Espanola jail after he "got out of control and refused to go back to class."
Police Chief Richard Guillen, who was not at work Thursday, said he had few details but that officers "couldn't deal with" the boy before taking him into custody.
He said he had conflicting accounts of where the boy was held and for how long.
It's illegal to keep a juvenile at an adult facility.
Espanola school Superintendent Vernon Jaramillo said the incident was being investigated. He expected a report from the school's principal, Corinne Salazar.
The boy's mother, Angelica Esquibel, said he was sent to the school office Thursday when he raised his voice to a teacher after hitting another child with the basketball.
Esquibel, who works next door to the school, said she was called to the office, and that Jerry began crying and saying he wanted to go home.
She said a school counselor wanted him to return to class, and that when the boy ran outside and started crying louder, the counselor told him if he wasn't going to be in school, she was going to call police.
The counselor told him officers would handcuff him and put him in a cell "until he changes his attitude," Esquibel said.
Guillen said he'd been told the mother agreed police should be called. She said she told school officials not to call them.
Two officers tried to tell Jerry to go back to class and told him he had a choice — class or jail, Esquibel said. When the boy got upset and loud, they handcuffed him, she said.
The police report says Jerry was arrested, taken to jail, booked and released to his parents.
Esquibel said that when she arrived at the police station, he was standing against a wall, crying.
He told her he was placed "in a dark room with a window, a metal toilet and a metal sink," and that inmates banged on the window "saying they were going to get him and cussing," she said. He said officers told him to stop crying or they'd let the inmates get him, she said.


Police arrest boy 8-year-old after scuffle
8-year-old handcuffed, charged with battery
By James L. Rosica
Tallahassee Democrat|October 6, 2004

It was a typical scuffle between two youngsters - some name-calling, a slap on the face, a punch to the stomach.
After it was over, however, Tallahassee police handcuffed the 8-year-old boy who picked the fight and took him to a juvenile facility Monday night, charging him with misdemeanor battery and criminal mischief.
"This was children's stuff, a disagreement between two neighborhood kids," said attorney Kathy Garner, now representing first-grader Isaac Sutton, who turned 8 last month. The boy's case was made public by his mother, Pamela Kelly.
"He just needs a good talking-to," Garner said Tuesday. "This doesn't need to be handled in the judicial system."
Assistant City Attorney Rick Courtemanche, the Tallahassee Police Department's legal adviser, said the arresting officer decided there was enough evidence to arrest the 4-foot-10, 70-pound boy. And city policy requires officers to handcuff juveniles when taking them to the county's Juvenile Assessment Center, he added.
But the boy's arrest raises the usual questions about arresting kids, including: At what age is there criminal intent?
Isaac's arrest comes about a month after Jefferson County deputies arrested a 7-year-old Monticello boy, charging him with battery in the hitting of a classmate, a teacher and a principal, and scratching a school resource officer.
1.UPI | December 15, 2004
A St. Louis mother is considering legal action after her 5-year-old son was handcuffed at the behest of a school principal.
"I'm trying to scare this kid straight. I would not be doing my job if I were not trying to get him on the right path," Thurgood Marshall Academy Principal Sam Morgan told the St. Louis Post-Dispatch, adding the child "has been a holy terror."
Aroni Rucker said she had been contacted by the school once a week about her son's behavioral problems, but "He didn't do anything to deserve to be handcuffed," said insisted. He is only five. Suspend him or do whatever, but you don't handcuff him."
Rucker has since withdrawn both of her sons from the school.



PoliceTaser 6-Year-Old

Fox News | November 12, 2004
MIAMI — Police used a stun gun on a 6-year-old boy in his principal's office because he was wielding a piece of glass and threatening to hurt himself, officials said Thursday.
The boy, who was not identified, was shocked with 50,000 volts on Oct. 20 at Kelsey Pharr Elementary School.
Principal Maria Mason called 911 after the child broke a picture frame in her office and waved a piece of glass, holding a security guard back.
When two Miami-Dade County police officers and a school officer arrived, the boy had already cut himself under his eye and on his hand.
The officers talked to the boy without success. When the boy cut his own leg, one officer shocked him with a Taser ( search ) and another grabbed him to prevent him from falling, police said.
He was treated and taken to a hospital, where he was committed for psychiatric evaluation. 11-Year-Old Boy Questioned By Police Over 'Anti-American' Statements
Washington Post | December 15, 2004
By Rosalind S. Helderman
When the two plainclothes Loudoun County sheriff's investigators showed up on her Leesburg doorstep, Pamela Albaugh got nervous. But when they told her why they were there, she got angry: A complaint had been filed alleging that her 11-year old son had made "anti-American and violent" statements in school.
She was aware of an incident at Belmont Ridge Middle School in which her son, Yishai Asido, was assigned to write a letter to U.S. Marines and responded, according to his teacher, by saying, "I wish all Americans were dead and that American soldiers should die." Yishai and Albaugh deny that the boy wished his countrymen dead.
Albaugh, a U.S. citizen, and her husband, an Israeli citizen who manages a Leesburg moving company, say the investigators' visit and the school's response were a paranoid overreaction in a charged post-9/11 environment. But law enforcement officials say the terrorist attacks and the Columbine school shootings require them to consider whether children who make threats might post a danger to their classmates. The case illustrates the balancing act that schools and law enforcement must find between the free speech of minors and community safety.
Albaugh described her son as a rambunctious student who has long opposed armies of any kind. He refused the Veterans Day assignment and told his teacher that the Marines "might as well die, as much as I care." Whatever was said, the words had been the source of anguished conferences, phone calls and, ultimately, a day of in-school suspension.
Albaugh thought the whole thing was resolved in school until Investigators Robert LeBlanc and Kelly Poland showed up last week. What followed, she said, was two hours of polite but intense and personal questioning.
They asked how she felt about 9/11 and the military. They asked whether she knows any foreigners who have trouble with American policy. They mentioned a German friend who had been staying with the family and asked whether the friend sympathized with the Taliban. They also inquired whether she might be teaching her children "anti-American values," she said.
Toward the end of the conversation, Albaugh's husband, Alon Asido, arrived home. Asido said the pair then spent another hour talking to him, mostly about his life in Israel and his more than four years in an elite combat unit there.
Before the investigators left, one deputy said their "concerns had been put to rest," Albaugh said.
"It was intimidating," she said. "I told them it's like a George Orwell novel, that it felt like they were the thought police. If someone would have asked me five years ago if this was something my government would do, I would have said never."


. PHILADELPHIA -- A 10-year-old girl was placed in handcuffs and taken to a police station because she took a pair of scissors to her elementary school.
School district officials said the fourth-grade student did not threaten anyone with the 8-inch shears, but violated a rule that considers scissors to be potential weapons.
Administrators said they were following state law when they called police Thursday, and police said they were following department rules when they handcuffed Porsche Brown and took her away in a patrol wagon.
"My daughter cried and cried," said her mother, Rose Jackson. "She had no idea what she did was wrong. I think that was way too harsh."
Police officers decided the girl hadn't committed a crime and let her go.
However, school officials suspended her for five days. Administrators will decide at a hearing whether she may return to class, or be expelled to a special disciplinary school.
The scissors were discovered while students' belongings were being searched for property missing from a teacher's desk.
School district officials have promised a crackdown on unruly students this year, and new policies give administrators the power to expel students for infractions as minor as violating the dress code, chronic tardiness or habitual swearing.
Administrators say the steps are needed to regain control over a notoriously unruly school system, but some parents have complained that discipline has been overly harsh and that school officials have been too quick to call police about minor problems.

Het Skill Effect 24 december 2004 18:21

Citaat:

Oorspronkelijk geplaatst door Wreker
Als Bush klaar is met kutland Irak : op naar kutland Iran!

De islamieten zijn immers toch te stom om in hun eigen landen orde op zaken te stellen.

Doe vooral zo verder met je taalgebruik. ;)

Wil je toch schelden, doe het dan hier!

driewerf 24 december 2004 22:14

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Oorspronkelijk geplaatst door Antoon
Wacht maar tot jouw moslim-vrienden het hier voor het zeggen krijgen..

ik wacht er vol ongeduld op, aangezien ik net aandelen in touwslagerijen en in steengroeven heb gekocht.

Knuppel 24 december 2004 22:45

Vandaag kreeg ik deze mail binnen.
Oordeel zelf, handel, of aanvaard de dingen zoals ze zijn.


Citaat:

Kom bliksemsnel in actie!

Iran: executie dreigt voor 19-jarige vrouw.
Leyla M., die na diverse testen de geestelijke vermogens blijkt te
hebben
van een 8-jarig kind, is ter dood veroordeeld voor 'misdaden gerelateerd
aan de moraal'. Leyla zou in een bordeel gewerkt hebben, seks hebben
gehad
met bloedverwanten, en zijn bevallen van een onwettig kind. Voordat het
vonnis uitgevoerd zal worden, wordt ze eerst nog gegeseld.
Als kind van 8 jaar werd Leyla door haar moeder gedwongen zich te
prostitueren. Ze werd meerdere keren verkracht. Op haar negende werd ze
voor het eerst zwanger. Hiervoor werd ze veroordeeld tot 100
zweepslagen.
Toen ze 12 was, verkocht haar familie haar aan een Afghaanse man om zijn
'tijdelijke vrouw' te worden. Haar moeder fungeerde intussen als haar
pooier. Op haar veertiende werd Leyla weer zwanger, waar ze ook weer
voor
werd veroordeeld tot 100 zweepslagen. Ze beviel van een tweeling. Nadat
haar eerste 'tijdelijke huwelijk' was beëindigd, verkocht haar familie
haar
opnieuw, ditmaal aan een 55-jarige man die Leyla's klanten bij hem thuis
liet komen.
Het Hooggerechtshof is nu aan zet. Als het vonnis wordt bevestigd, kan
Leyla ieder moment geëxecuteerd worden.

Hoe kunt u helpen? Door op de reply-knop (beantwoorden) en vervolgens op
de
send-knop (verzenden) te drukken, zet u uw naam onder Amnesty's protest.
Hieronder de tekst van de petitie, onder meer gericht aan Ayatollah
Khamenei.

Your Excellency,
I wish to express my serious concern about the fact that Leyla M. has
been
sentenced to death for 'morality related offences', committed when she
was
under the age of 18. Leyla M. has been found to have a mental age of
eight.
I call on you to ensure that her case is urgently reviewed. Also, I urge
the Supreme Court to ensure that Article 41 of the draft law on the
Establishment of Children's Courts is implemented, which requires social
workers and psychiatrists to examine defendants such as Leyla M.
I would like to remind the Head of the Judiciary that passing a death
sentence on Leyla M. would violate the International Convention on Civil
and Political Rights, to which Iran is a state party. Furthermore, I am
asking for details of the trail proceedings and any appeals related to
her
case. The authorities should give assurances that they will uphold their
obligation to ensure that Leyla M. is represented by a lawyer who is
able
to act in her best interests. Leyla M. should be granted access to any
medical treatment that she may need. I would like to state my
unconditional
opposition to the death penalty, as the ultimate cruel, inhuman and
degrading punishment and violation of the right to life. Finally, I
would
like to express my dismay at the fact that Amnesty International has
recorded 10 executions of child offenders in Iran since 1990, three of
them
in 2004, and call on the Iranian authorities to immediately halt further
executions of child offenders.
Yours sincerely.


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Knuppel 24 december 2004 22:49

Nog een mail die me vandaag bereikte:


Citaat:

Betreft: uw bericht over het stenigen van kinderen én ook vrouwen in Iran.





ter verduidelijking.

Toen ik nog op het Barrikadenplein rondliep, ontving ik op een dag - op vraag van GB die uiteraard geen tijd had - een afvaardiging van het Iraans Front in Parijs. Drie dames die mij een en ander kwamen vertellen over de manier waarop in hun land "recht" gesproken wordt, op welke manier daar mensen vermoord worden op bevel van de rechtbanken. Het was de tijd dat niet alleen de wereld maar ook Vlaanderen in rep en roer stond omdat ene miss België - zeer terecht trouwens - bijzonder druk maakte over een gelijkaardige geruchtmakende terechtstelling in Nigeria.of die intussen werd uitgevoerd, weet ik niet.

Zij overhandigden mij een bundel fotos en andere documenten over de humane manier van terechtstellen in een Islamitisch land. Onder meer stenigen van vrouwen die tot aan de nek ingegraven worden met inderdaad stenen die niet te groot mogen zijn, het ophangen van veroordeelden zodanig dat ze niet meteen sterven maar slechts langzaam gewurgd worden, het opjagen van jongeren en dus ook kinderen, kortom, een hallucinant verhaal. Waarom Europa daarover geen kabaal maakt? Omdat tijdens gesprekken tussen Europa en Iran in Genève afgesproken werd terzake geen heisa te verkopen kwestie van de handelsbetrekkingen tussen Europa en Iran niet in het gedrang te brengen. Ik beschik spijtig genoeg niet meer over die documentatie omdat ik die doorspeelde naar het 1ste verdiep waar men het niet nodig oordeelde ook maar nadere uitleg te vragen. Zo gaat dat in dit Europese avondland, in dit toch zo menslievende Vlaanderen.



Het verhaal is dus zeker betrouwbaar, alleen zal Europa niet reageren. Ik weet niet meer hoe die beweging precies heet, het gaat om de officiële vertegenwoordiging van de Iraanse oppositie in het buitenland. gehuisvest in Parijs. Die beweging werd op Iraans aandringen door Europa op de lijst geplaatst van terroristische organisaties......



Ik laat u de echte conclusie uit mijn verhaal, dat je uiteraard mag rondsturen aan wie je wil.



Heel veel groeten en vooral, mijn oprechte sympathie voor je volgehouden ageren voor de juiste waarden in een mensenleven
.


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