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13 oktober 2010 15:41 |
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Oorspronkelijk geplaatst door Steve_M
(Bericht 5030961)
Komaan, Roswell was in 1947. Dat wil zeggen dat "de overheid" (want waarom zou daar een overheid alleen voor staan?) inmiddels 63 jaar de tijd heeft gehad om zo'n event openbaar te maken. 63 jaar, talloze presidenten, duizenden overheidsmedewerkers, ongetwijfeld vele crashes, duizenden wetenschappers die nacht na nacht naar de hemel kijken, duizenden "UFO-logen" en we moeten het nog steeds hebben van vage filmpjes en hoogst twijfelachtige getuigenissen.
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Ge geeft geen antwoord, dacht ik al.
Heb je al die getuigenissen al eens goed bekeken ? Vele zijn wetenschappelijk onderzocht, zelfs ontvoerde getuigen door Aliens hebben onder hypnose getuigenissen afgelegd. Hoe kunnen modale mensen nu plots sterrenstelsels beschrijven waar ze nooit weet van hadden ?
Ik geef je een link en lees die nu aub eens volledig uit, en geef eens een eerlijke mening:
http://www.astrosurf.com/lunascan/hillzeta.htm
een stukje:
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Intrigued by the Hills' experience, J. Allen Hynek, chairman of the department of astronomy at Northwestern University, decided to investigate. Hynek described how the Hills recalled the details of their encounter in his book, 'The UFO Experience' (Henry Regnery Company, 1972):
"Under repeated hypnosis they independently revealed what had supposedly happened. The two stories agreed in considerable detail, although neither Betty nor Barney was privy to what the other had said under hypnosis until much later. Under hypnosis they stated that they had been taken separately aboard the craft, treated well by the occupants -- rather as humans might treat experimental animals -- and then released after having been given the hypnotic suggestion that they would remember nothing of that particular experience. The method of their release supposedly accounted for the amnesia, which was apparently broken only by counterhypnosis."
A number of scientists, including Hynek, have discussed this incident at length with Barney and Betty Hill and have questioned them under hypnosis. They concur with Simon's belief that there seems to be no evidence of outright fabrication or lying. One would also wonder what Betty, who has a master's degree in social work and is a supervisor in the New Hampshire Welfare Department, and Barney, who was on the governor of New Hampshire's Civil Rights Commission, would have to gain by a hoax? Although the Hills didn't, several people have lost their jobs after being associated with similarly unusual publicity.
Stanton T. Friedman, a nuclear physicist and the nation's only space scientist devoting full time to researching the UFO phenomenon, has spent many hours in conversation with the Hills. "By no stretch of the imagination could anyone who knows them conclude that they were nuts," he emphasizes.
So the experience remains a fascinating story despite the absence of proof that it actually happened. Anyway -- that's where things were in 1966 when Marjorie Fish, an Ohio schoolteacher, amateur astronomer and member of Mensa, became involved. She wondered if the objects shown on the map that Betty Hill allegedly observed inside the vehicle might represent some actual pattern of celestial objects. To get more information about the map she decided to visit Betty Hill in the summer of 1969. (Barney Hill died in early 1969.) Here is Ms. Fish's account of that meeting:
"On Aug.4, 1969, Betty Hill discussed the star map with me. Betty explained that she drew the map in 1964 under posthypnotic suggestion. It was to be drawn only if she could remember it accurately, and she was not to pay attention to what she was drawing -- which puts it in the realm of automatic drawing. This is a way of getting at repressed or forgotten material and can result in unusual accuracy. She made two erasures showing her conscious mind took control part of the time.
"Betty described the map as three-dimensional, like looking through a window. The stars were tinted and glowed. The map material was flat and thin (not a model), and there were no noticeable lenticular lines like one of our three-dimensional processes. (It sounds very much like a reflective hologram.) Betty did not shift her position while viewing it, so we cannot tell if it would give the same three-dimensional view from all positions or if it would be completely three-dimensional. Betty estimated the map was approximately three feet wide and two feet high with the pattern covering most of the map. She was standing about three feet away from it. She said there were many other stars on the map but she only (apparently) was able to specifically recall the prominent ones connected by lines and a small distinctive triangle off to the left. There was no concentration of stars to indicate the Milky Way (galactic plane) suggesting that if it represented reality, it probably only contained local stars. There were no grid lines."
So much for the background material on the Hill incident. (If you want more details on the encounter, see Fuller's book). For the moment we will leave Marjorie Fish back in 1969 trying to interpret Betty Hill's reproduction of the map. There is a second major area of background information that we have to attend to before we can properly discuss the map. Unlike the bizarre events just described, the rest is pure astronomy.
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uit: http://www.ufoevidence.org/cases/case315.htm
laatste case van deze hoofdlink:
http://www.ufoevidence.org/Cases/Cas...tion=polygraph
dus er zijn nog veel gelijkaardige gevallen.
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