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1984: George Orwell / 2011: amerikaanse centrale bank begint eraan

(...) the Federal Reserve Bank of the United States, which in a Request for Proposals filed to companies that are Fed vendors, is requesting the creation of a "Social Listening Platform" whose function is to "gather data from various social media outlets and news sources." It will "monitor billions of conversations and generate text analytics based on predefined criteria." The Fed's desired product should be able to "determine the sentiment of a speaker or writer with respect to some topic or document"... "The solution must be able to gather data from the primary social media platforms – Facebook, Twitter, Blogs, Forums and YouTube. It should also be able to aggregate data from various media outlets such as: CNN, WSJ, Factiva etc." Most importantly, the "Listening Platform" should be able to "Handle crisis situations, Continuously monitor conversations, and Identify and reach out to key bloggers and influencers." Said otherwise, the Fed has just entered the counterespionage era and will be monitoring everything written about it anywhere in the world.

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http://theeconomiccollapseblog.com : The Federal Reserve Plans To Identify “Key Bloggers” And Monitor Billions Of Conversations About The Fed On Facebook, Twitter, Forums And Blogs

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25th September 2011 #

Logging out of Facebook is not enough

Dave Winer wrote a timely piece this morning about how Facebook is scaring him since the new API allows applications to post status items to your Facebook timeline without a users intervention. It is an extension of Facebook Instant and they call it frictionless sharing. The privacy concern here is that because you no longer have to explicitly opt-in to share an item, you may accidentally share a page or an event that you did not intend others to see.

The advice is to log out of Facebook. But logging out of Facebook only de-authorizes your browser from the web application, a number of cookies (including your account number) are still sent along to all requests to facebook.com. Even if you are logged out, Facebook still knows and can track every page you visit. The only solution is to delete every Facebook cookie in your browser, or to use a separate browser for Facebook interactions.

Here is what is happening, as viewed by the HTTP headers on requests to facebook.com. First, a normal request to the web interface as a logged in user sends the following cookies:

Note: I have both fudged the values of each cookie and added line wraps for legibility

Cookie:

(CODE)

The request to the logout function will then see this response from the server, which is attempting to unset the following cookies:

Set-Cookie:

(CODE)

To make it easier to see the cookies being unset, the names are in italics. If you compare the cookies that have been set in a logged in request, and compare them to the cookies that are being unset in the logout request, you will quickly see that there are a number of cookies that are not being deleted, and there are two cookies (locale and lu) that are only being given new expiry dates, and three new cookies (W, fl, L) being set.

Now I make a subsequent request to facebook.com as a 'logged out' user:

Cookie:

(CODE)

The primary cookies that identify me as a user are still there (act is my account number), even though I am looking at a logged out page. Logged out requests still send nine different cookies, including the most important cookies that identify you as a user

This is not what 'logout' is supposed to mean - Facebook are only altering the state of the cookies instead of removing all of them when a user logs out.

With my browser logged out of Facebook, whenever I visit any page with a Facebook like button, or share button, or any other widget, the information, including my account ID, is still being sent to Facebook. The only solution to Facebook not knowing who you are is to delete all Facebook cookies.

You can test this for yourself using any browser with developer tools installed. It is all hidden in plain sight.
An Experiment

This brings me back to a story that I have yet to tell. A year ago I was screwing around with multiple Facebook accounts as part of some development work. I created a number of fake Facebook accounts after logging out of my browser. After using the fake accounts for some time, I found that they were suggesting my real account to me as a friend. Somehow Facebook knew that we were all coming from the same browser, even though I had logged out.

There are serious implications if you are using Facebook from a public terminal. If you login on a public terminal and then hit 'logout', you are still leaving behind fingerprints of having been logged in. As far as I can tell, these fingerprints remain (in the form of cookies) until somebody explicitly deletes all the Facebook cookies for that browser. Associating an account ID with a real name is easy - as the same ID is used to identify your profile.

Facebook knows every account that has accessed Facebook from every browser and is using that information to suggest friends to you. The strength of the 'same machine' value in the algorithm that works out friends to suggest may be low, but it still happens. This is also easy to test and verify.

I reported this issue to Facebook in a detailed email and got the bounce around. I emailed somebody I knew at the company and forwarded the request to them. I never got a response. The entire process was so flaky and frustrating that I haven't bothered sending them two XSS holes that I have also found in the past year. They really need to get their shit together on reporting privacy issues, I am sure they take security issues a lot more seriously.
The Rise of Privacy Awareness
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nikcub

Tip..., verwijder STEEDS uw LSO-cookies, gebruik Firefox+ADD ON Better Privacy.

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En, heb je 1984 ook daadwerkelijk gelezen?

Ja in mijn studententijd.

Dat gezegd zijnde, ik denk dat men een schrik gepakt heeft na de situaties in Egypte, Libië en andere Arabische landen.

De vraag stelt zich of het wel tegen te houden is.

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Oorspronkelijk geplaatst door Vlaanderen Boven (Bericht 5712010)

En, heb je 1984 ook daadwerkelijk gelezen?

Op de middelbare school ;-)

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Oorspronkelijk geplaatst door zonbron (Bericht 5711919)

Tip..., verwijder STEEDS uw LSO-cookies, gebruik Firefox+ADD ON Better Privacy.

Hoe zoek je die LSO-cookies?

En weet je ook waar die voor staan?

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Logging out of Facebook is not enough

Hoe verdelen we onze tijd tussen de verschillende sociale netwerken?
23 sep 2011

Geuuuuuuuuuuuuw , dit nieuws is al zo oud als de straat (in IT kringen)

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Oorspronkelijk geplaatst door Nr.10 (Bericht 5710941)

(...) the Federal Reserve Bank of the United States, which in a Request for Proposals filed to companies that are Fed vendors, is requesting the creation of a "Social Listening Platform" whose function is to "gather data from various social media outlets and news sources." It will "monitor billions of conversations and generate text analytics based on predefined criteria." The Fed's desired product should be able to "determine the sentiment of a speaker or writer with respect to some topic or document"... "The solution must be able to gather data from the primary social media platforms – Facebook, Twitter, Blogs, Forums and YouTube. It should also be able to aggregate data from various media outlets such as: CNN, WSJ, Factiva etc." Most importantly, the "Listening Platform" should be able to "Handle crisis situations, Continuously monitor conversations, and Identify and reach out to key bloggers and influencers." Said otherwise, the Fed has just entered the counterespionage era and will be monitoring everything written about it anywhere in the world.

bron

Inderdaad.
Ik vind het wel vreemd dat vooral mensen van linkse signatuur TEGEN de afschaffing zijn van de centrale banken.
Zou Trotski daarvoor iets tussen zitten?

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Oorspronkelijk geplaatst door voicelesscharlie (Bericht 5720473)

Inderdaad.
Ik vind het wel vreemd dat vooral mensen van linkse signatuur TEGEN de afschaffing zijn van de centrale banken.
Zou Trotski daarvoor iets tussen zitten?

Wat bedoel je daarmee? De google zoekopdracht: Trotski central bank, geeft maar weinig resultaten ;-)

In ieder geval, ten tijde van Trotski was de wereldorde nog anders. De Britse centrale bank de centrale bank van het Imperium.

Het centrum van de wereldmacht lag toen nog in Europa (Engeland meer bepaald). Momenteel ligt dat centrum op Wall Street.

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Oorspronkelijk geplaatst door zonbron (Bericht 5711919)

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Oorspronkelijk geplaatst door Orwell in 1984

He gazed up at the enormous face. Forty years it had taken him to learn what kind of smile was hidden beneath the dark moustache. O cruel, needless misunderstanding! O stubborn, self-willed exile from the loving breast! Two gin-scented tears trickled down the sides of his nose. But it was all right, everything was all right, the struggle was finished. He had won the victory over himself. He loved Big Brother.
George Orwell 1984 (final paragraph)
http://www.george-orwell.org/1984

In het boek in het boek staat ook hoe je tot een revolutie komt. Een maand geleden dacht ik dat de vier voorwaarden ook in België vervuld waren totdat Di Rupo premier werd en toen werd de revolutie weer even in de koelkast gestopt, maar niet voor lang.;-)

Voor de goede verstaander en de niet-kenner: er is dus een boek in het boek 1984 (in kleiner gedrukte letters), maar het is wat mij betreft het beste deel van het boek in het algemeen.

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Oorspronkelijk geplaatst door De Brabander (Bericht 5873639)

Gingen ze dan VTM van de kabel halen en de cyclocross afschaffen, misschien?

Mooi zo @filosoof, U zag het... ;-)

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Oorspronkelijk geplaatst door SDG (Bericht 5873674)

Gingen ze dan VTM van de kabel halen en de cyclocross afschaffen, misschien?

:lol: :thumbsup:

Jawel beste @SDG...

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Oorspronkelijk geplaatst door De Brabander (Bericht 5873639)

De door U gewenste revolutie, is dat een Unitair Belgische revolutie ?

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Oorspronkelijk geplaatst door De Brabander (Bericht 5873642)

Voor de goede verstaander en de niet-kenner: er is dus een boek in het boek 1984 (in kleiner gedrukte letters), maar het is wat mij betreft het beste deel van het boek in het algemeen.

;-)

(The 'Book within a Book' from George Orwell's Nineteen Eighty-Four)

Chapter 1 - Ignorance is Strength
Chapter 2 - Freedom is Slavery
Chapter 3 - War is Peace

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