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ESM: een staatsgreep in 17 landen

Een kennismaking met het verdrag dat ingrijpende gevolgen zal hebben:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1GaH2MqXfxM

Produceer a.u.b. een tekst met een onderwerp en een mening daarover. Het is hier geen videotheek.

Ik had geen zin om een boek te schrijven, terwijl alles makkelijk uitgelegd wordt in het filmpje.. De mening die ik er over heb spreekt voor zich en anders herlees je de titel van de draad maar eens opnieuw.

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Oorspronkelijk geplaatst door Oblique (Bericht 5745775)

Een kennismaking met het verdrag dat ingrijpende gevolgen zal hebben:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1GaH2MqXfxM

Ondermaatse aandacht voor deze toch belangrijke mededeling, dacht ik.

Meer info : courtfool - ESM

Volledige tekst van het ontwerp van het ESM : openeurope - draftesmtreaty.pdf

Wat is het ESM ? Q&A. europa.eu

Blijkbaar zal het ESM een soort van internationale organisatie worden (zoals het IMF ?).
Het zal van vele voordelen genieten en tevens onschendbaar zijn.

Referendum iemand ?
:lol:

ESM is het Trojaanse paard

Het in feite de kiem van een toekomstige "nationaal socialistische" EUSSR

De ESM is ook een beetje kopie van de "Dodd Frank" (bankiers-financieringswet goedgekeurd door de Amerikaanse Congres/parlement en Obama

En trouwens China heeft zojuist beslist om GEEN steun te verlenen aan de Griekse bailout

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Europe is once again back to the drawing board to find somebody dumb enough to guarantee the consolidated sovereign debts of the entire continent after China has rejected any bailout of the creditors of embattled nations Portugal, Italy, Ireland, Greece, and Spain (PIIGS). “China can neither take up the role as a saviour to the Europeans, nor provide a ‘cure’ for the European malaise. Obviously, it is up to European countries themselves to tackle their financial problems,” said the Communist nation’s official news service Xinhua. The problem for Europe is that the €440 billion European Financial Stability Fund (EFSF) is not large enough to back up all of the debts of the PIIGS, which total more than €3 trillion. And while the European Union (EU) has agreed to leverage the fund up to €1.4 trillion, it still has not found a willing party to put up the cash. It was originally assumed that the European Central Bank (ECB) would do so, but Germany has vetoed that approach, since tethering that nation to potential liabilities not approved by the Bundestag would violate its constitution. Which meant it would have to be somebody outside Europe. China perhaps, but now they’ve said no unequivocally. So have Japan, Russia, and Brazil. That leaves just the International Monetary Fund (IMF). However, the bank does not believe it has enough cash on hand to do so — meaning participating nations including the U.S. would have to approve an expansion of the IMF’s capital. Such a proposal would likely meet stiff opposition in the Republican-controlled U.S. House of Representatives — to say nothing of the American people, who would rightly find a taxpayer-funded bailout of Europe at a time when the U.S. is in its own debt crisis to be outrageous.

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Should the IMF route fail, the EU would be still be left without somebody to leverage the EFSF. The Europeans’ only other option might be a proposed new treaty, the European Stability Mechanism (ESM), which would create a permanent fund to perpetually refinance European sovereign debt, similar to the Dodd-Frank so-called “orderly liquidation fund” established last year in the U.S.. Under that system, 60 bank-holding companies with $50 billion or more in consolidated assets are to be taxed by the Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation (FDIC) to fund a permanent resolution authority. This institutionalized “too big to fail” and took Congress out of the loop for any future bailouts. No more messy votes like the Troubled Asset Relief Program (TARP) in 2008, which was a political loser for all involved. Now the European powers want to do the same thing — cede their sovereign fiscal responsibilities to an authoritarian, unrepresentative authority, in this case the ESM. A recent video by German organizations Zivile Koalition, Die Friere Welt, and Abgeordneten Check outlines this danger posed to the German people — and free peoples everywhere. For down this rabbit-hole are the panels of experts that former Obama budget director Peter Orszag recently pined for in the U.S. to “counter the gridlock of our political institutions by making them a bit less democratic.” Signatory nations of the ESM would be required to perpetually fund the mechanism with hundreds of billions of euros — all without any vote in their own parliaments. Which is why the 17 member nations of the Eurozone, or the 16 minus Greece, should be unambiguously opposed its adoption. Is this the future of Europe? Worse, is this the end of the few-hundred-years-old experiment in representative government in the West?...

bron: http://netrightdaily.com/2011/11/eur...out-mechanism/
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Oorspronkelijk geplaatst door Tempest (Bericht 5776145)

Inderdaad. Prima artikel BTW.

Een dringende oproep vanwege 'The Sovereign Independent' ivm ESM.

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URGENT INFORMATION ON THE EUSSR – PLEASE SEND EVERYWHERE

On 11 July 2011 a new European treaty has been signed. You probably haven’t heard of it. It has not been in the news. Incredible, but true!

TREATY ESTABLISHING THE EUROPEAN STABILITY MECHANISM (ESM)

http://consilium.europa.eu/media/121...reaty%20en.pdf

(Do not confuse it with the European Financial Stability Mechanim (EFSM) or the European Financial Stability Facility (EFSF), which is the 440 billion emergency funds that has been in the news a lot.)

The ESM is a new EU-administration. To manage it, Brussels hires the Ministers of Finance of the 17 euro-countries. However, these ministers will come to Brussels with the key of their national vault and the full permission to take out all the money they want, when they want and as often as they want. The ESM is intended to be permanent and without limit. The 17 ministers won’t have to justify the amounts they take, neither how they spend the money. The ESM-ministers will enjoy complete immunity against actions of governments, administrations or judges. The parliaments won’t have a say over these ministers when the latter act under the treaty. This means the end of the sovereign democracies in the 17 euro-countries!

This ESM-treaty becomes definitive when it has been ratified by the parliamants of the 17 euro-countries. THE RATIFICATION IS EXPECTED BETWEEN TODAY AND 31 DECEMBER 2011!

(Check out the agenda of the parliament in your country to see for which day it has been scheduled.)

The only democratic straw left to stop this dictatorship is to inform all national parliamentarians massively that we don’t want this treaty to be ratified. If we don’t act, the parliamentarians will very probably ratify it as a formality, as usually. It is not likely they have understood that this treaty means the end of their supreme power over the country’s finances. They can’t even imagine it.

In most euro-countries the citizens have NO INFORMATION AT ALL about this treaty yet. Not a single national or international newspaper has reported the signature of this new European Treaty! Brussels has published just one copy of the treaty on the internet: in english! Over 96,5% of the eurozone citizens speak other languages!

This email is to inform you, but also to ask you very pressingly to spend a few hours to forward this information in your country to addresses you can rather easily find on Google, like

a.. your national and regional newspapers and magazines,
b.. newseditors of TV-stations and animators of appropriate TV-programs,
c.. governemental bodies of all levels (municipalities, provinces, ministries)
d.. important associations and public and private institutions,
e.. secretaries of political parties,
f.. and last but not least all parliamentarians.

And if you dispose of a network, of course, ask your friends and contacts to help.

The following video of 3.5 minutes is available on YouTube:

ESM, the new European dictator!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rxMOW94V6xQ

(subtitling available in english, dutch, french, spanish, portuguese, italian, bulgarian. See www.courtfool.info. )

The following articles may be freely copied and republished:

ESM, the new European dictator!

http://www.courtfool.info/en_ESM_the...n_dictator.htm

ESM, a coup d’état in 17 countries!

http://www.courtfool.info/en_ESM_a_c..._countries.htm
(articles are available in english, dutch, french, spanish, portuguese, italian and bulgarian. See www.courtfool.info. )
You are one of the very few persons to have been reached in your country. Please make sure that this information does not stop with you reading this message. Even if you are very busy, please forward it to some persons who can understand the importance and urgency to act.

Please do your utmost to inform as many people in the 17 euro-countries. The information has started to circulate in Germany, Holland, France and Portugal. 13 more countries to go! There are 300 million people living in the eurozone and hopefully they won’t have to experience the ESM-dictatorship!

O hai !

indien ik het goed begrepen heb, mag BE dus beginnen met 24 miljard en nog wat EUR op te hoesten.

Weet iemand waar die moeten vandaan komen ?

Kthxbai,

Jan.

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Oorspronkelijk geplaatst door JanJanssens (Bericht 5777778)

O hai !

indien ik het goed begrepen heb, mag BE dus beginnen met 24 miljard en nog wat EUR op te hoesten.

Weet iemand waar die moeten vandaan komen ?

Kthxbai,

Jan.

Uw broekzak.

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Oorspronkelijk geplaatst door Tempest (Bericht 5776145)

ESM is het Trojaanse paard

Het in feite de kiem van een toekomstige "nationaal socialistische" EUSSR

De ESM is ook een beetje kopie van de "Dodd Frank" (bankiers-financieringswet goedgekeurd door de Amerikaanse Congres/parlement en Obama

En trouwens China heeft zojuist beslist om GEEN steun te verlenen aan de Griekse bailoutbron: http://netrightdaily.com/2011/11/eur...out-mechanism/
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Ik vrees dat het eerder de kiem is van het uiteenvallen van de EU.
Je moet de ESM meer vergelijken met de Amerikaanse burgeroorlog, waarin een gans continent economisch en politiek gestroomlijnd werd. Dan zie je dat het véél te laat is.

Een stapje dichter bij de implementatie van het ESM ?
Het EFSF koopt haar eigen obligaties...

Is het EFSF nu waardeloos ? Van Bazooka naar een warm luchtpistooltje ?

Is 0 + 0 = 1 ?

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European Ponzi Goes Full Retard As EFSF Found To Monetize... Itself

According to the Telegraph, the abysmal, and barely successful, 3 EUR billion issuance of EFSF bonds (which was originally supposed to be 10 EUR billion, on its very very gradual climb to 1 EUR trillion) had one more very curious feature to it, aside from confirming that it is Dead On Arrival as expected. It turns out that in addition to being the most convoluted and complex creation ever conceived by JPM which is advising Europe on coming up with structured finance products that are so complex nobody will ask any questions and will automatically assume someone else has done the homework, it is also the quintessential ponzi instrument.

The Telegraph reports that the already reduced 3 EUR billion “target was only met after the EFSF resorted to buying up several hundred million euros worth of the bonds.” You read that right: in its first bond issuance since its transformation to the European Bank/Soveriegn Bailout Swiss Army Knife, the EFSF not only failed to raise a minimum token amount, but also had to… buy its own bonds.

Meer : zerohedge

Europese schulden swingen de pan uit

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As The European Debt Woes Spiral Out Of Control
An excerpt from Bob Chapman's weekly publication.

As Chancellor Merkel and PM Sarkozy search for a solution that doesn’t exist they continue to lose credibility. Nothing of substance has been agreed upon that is legal and can be implemented. At the IMF Christina LeGarde is frantically waving her arms like a cheerleader telling anyone that will listen that if the six sovereigns in financial trouble are not aided the euro will fail and peace in Europe will disappear. The elitists are frantic because they cannot find a solution. LeGarde says without help there will be ten years of depression. She obviously hasn’t done her homework. Try 30 or more years. Sarkozy, Merkel and Jans Weidmann council member of the ECB has said the ECB cannot bail out governments by printing money. He is also head of the Bundesbank and said a key lesson of what is being proposed is the hyperinflation in Weimer Republic, which followed WWI. Over in Italy PM Berlusconi, who looks and acts like Benito Mussolini has been unseated and as a result the Italian bond market is on the edge of collapse. There is big pressure downward in stock and bond markets as a result and the US Treasury again attacks gold and silver hoping they can keep gold from breaking about $1,800. The PPT’s ability to achieve this is more than questionable.

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What is now realized is that euro zone government bonds contain unexpected credit risks. All the European politicians and bureaucrats want to save the euro, but their promises and solutions are not worth the paper they are written on. They are so believable that China won’t lend them money. These characters have been kicking the can down the road since last spring with little or no long-term solutions, and no solutions to affect a recovery and create jobs. Austerity has replaced growth and that is expediting a failing economy, even in Germany. If economies don’t grow tax receipts fall and the ability to service debt is impaired. Big euro zone banks are broke just as their counterparts in NYC are. As this proceeds we ask how long can the ECB buy Italian and Spanish bonds?

In Greece a coalition has been made and Mr. Samaras has shown his true colors by backing Trilateral-Bilderberg Lucas Papademos, as interim PM. We hope Greek citizens realize that Papademos will sell them out. It is only a matter of when. The debt deal will probably be ratified, but at what price? Will it bring revolution or a coup? Who knows, but under the circumstances anything goes. 60% to 65% of Greeks oppose the bailout, but 71% want to stay in the euro, which is impossible.

If further austerity measures are taken in Italy there will be demonstrations and violence. In the meantime bond market yields climb; Italy’s access to the bond market lessens and as a result stock markets fall. There is no coordination between the ECB and its members. The French banks and others are selling bonds, which the ECB is being forced to buy. All of these factors lend to political, financial and economic uncertainty. This is a major full-blown crisis and the US realizes that. Why else would they be strongly trying to suppress gold and silver prices? Europe is in disarray and Germany has to come to terms with cutting loose the six loser countries. That means leaving the euro and perhaps the EU. We see no other choice in this unnatural association.

Europe’s banks are leveraged 26 to 1, whereas 9 to 1 is normal. A 4% fall in asset prices will wipe out equity. Debt to equity for corporations is 145% in Portugal, 135% in Italy; 113% in Ireland, Greece 218%, Spain 152% and 89% in the UK. In Germany it is 105% and in France 76%. EU financial problems are endemic not just in the six countries in trouble. Europe is an accident waiting to happen, which we have pointed out for some time. We are now seeing failed bond auctions even in Germany. The sale of EFSF bonds had to be put off due to lack of interest. If it hadn’t been for the ECB buying the bonds of Italy, Spain and Portugal the bond market would have already collapsed. Europe is the catalyst and eventually it probably will take the financial system down. The ECB probably has already bought close to $300 billion in just these countries alone.

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internationalforcaster

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Oorspronkelijk geplaatst door JanJanssens (Bericht 5777778)

O hai !

indien ik het goed begrepen heb, mag BE dus beginnen met 24 miljard en nog wat EUR op te hoesten.

Weet iemand waar die moeten vandaan komen ?

Kthxbai,

Jan.

Dit lijkt mij een leugenachtig filmpje want voor elke verhoging van de het bedrag nodig om landen in nood te helpen moeten alle leden van de ministerraad hun fiat geven.

Lang heeft het alvast niet op zich laten wachten...

Kijk hier, Merkel kondigt fiscale unie in Eurozone aan.

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De Duitse bondskanselier Angela Merkel heeft in de Bundestag gezegd dat we op weg zijn naar een fiscale Europese unie voor de eurozone. Het is volgens haar de enige manier om de eurocrisis te bestrijden. Ze gaat maandag samen met Sarkozy een concept voor de hervorming van de muntunie voorstellen.

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Angela Merkel en de Franse president Nicolas Sarkozy willen blijkbaar maandag in Parijs een concept voor een hervorming van de muntunie voorstellen. Daarbij wordt gestreefd naar een zogeheten stabiliteitsunie van de zeventien eurolanden. (ESM !!!)