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RED ALERT : De Russen pikken het niet meer/TV-toespraak van Dmitry Medvedev

RED ALERT WARGAMES ! De koude oorlog is terug.

De Russen pikken het niet meer. Ze zijn het overduidelijk meer dan beu.
Zullen de westerse strijdkrachten hun geplande kinetische actie in Syrie nog
durven aanvatten ? Moskou zal dat waarschijnlijk niet dulden.

Bekijk de TV-toespraak van de Russische president (gebruik Closed Caption optie 'CC' voor de door U gewenste vertaling) Заявление о ситуации вокруг европейской ПРО /Verklaring over de situatie rond een Europees raketschild

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Russia Retaliates Against US: Puts Radar Station On Combat Alert, Prepares To Take Out European Missile Defense Systems

Submitted by Tyler Durden on 11/23/2011 22:50 -0500

Earlier today, we presented the latest developments in the escalating possibility of an imminent air (and potentially land) campaign targeting Syria by the "western world", a move that would infuriate not only Iran, but also Russia and China, both of which have made it clear they would not sit idly by and let such an "aggression" stand. Now it is Russia's turn to retaliate. Cutting straight to the chase - in a nationally televized appearance by Russian president Dmitry Medvedev: in response to what the Russian believes is an active incursion and a potential act of eventual aggression on behalf of NATO countries in Eastern Europe (and hence the US), he he said the following (7 minutes in): "First, I am instructing the Defense Ministry to immediately put the missile attack early warning radar station in Kaliningrad on combat alert. Second, protective cover of Russia's strategic nuclear weapons, will be reinforced as a priority measure under the programme to develop out air and space defenses. Third, the new strategic ballistic missiles commissioned by the Strategic Missile Forces and the Navy will be equipped with advanced missile defense penetration systems and new highly-effective warheads. Fourth, I have instructed the Armed Forces to draw up measures for disabling missile defense system data and guidance systems if need be... Fifth, if the above measures prove insufficient, the Russian Federation will deploy modern offensive weapon systems in the west and south of the country, ensuring our ability to take out any part of the US missile defense system, in Europe. One step in this process will be to deploy Iskander missiles in Kaliningrad Region. Other measures to counter the European missile defense system will be drawn up and implemented as necessary. Furthermore, if the situation continues to develop not in Russia's favor we reserve the right to discontinue further disarmament and arms control measures. Besides, given the intrinsic link between strategic offensive and defensive arms, conditions for our withdrawal from the New START Treaty could also arise." That said, he concludes that Russia is still open to dialog. However, if Obama merely intends to bomb any nation at will, we are very much concerned that everything Medvedev has just threatened will be enacted. And exponentially more so when Putin comes back in charge. One thing is certain - Russia is not North Korea, and taking this speech for more empty jawboning is probably not the wisest option.
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Is dit propaganda of is het 'the real deal' ?

Twas maar om te lachen. :lol:

Met Syrië gaan ze zeker door. Wie gaat hen stoppen? De Russen? Daar was toch al een confrontatie mee gepland, laat maar komen.

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Oorspronkelijk geplaatst door Oblique (Bericht 5821713)

Twas maar om te lachen. :lol:

Met Syrië gaan ze zeker door. Wie gaat hen stoppen? De Russen? Daar was toch al een confrontatie mee gepland, laat maar komen.

Een veto van Rusland en China zou toch voldoende moeten zijn om dat te
voorkomen. Uiteindelijk zullen ze al die proxy-oorlogen ook wel grondig beu worden.

Uit xinhuanet hetvolgende...

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Russia's tough rhetoric on missile defense shows impatience with U.S.

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"Medvedev wants to demonstrate he is tough, determined, and ready to protect national interests. Earlier, only his envoy to NATO Dmitry Rogozin used such rhetoric," said Alexei Makarkin, analyst from the Center for Political Technologies in Moscow.

"Now Medvedev formally made it clear that Moscow has been disappointed with the 'reset' of Russia-U.S. relations, which has failed to find common language on missile defense issue," Makarkin said.

Local experts noted that reaching common understanding on missile defense should be a key component of the reset process, but the U.S. side has ignored Moscow's demand on written legal guarantee that the U.S. missile shield in Europe should not target Russia.

***Rogozin said Medvedev's statement was intended to prompt Washington and NATO to take Russia seriously at the missile defense talks.

"We won't allow them to treat us like fools... Nuclear deterrent forces aren't a joke," he said.

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xinhua

Het is niet meer dan normaal dat niet democratische landen verhinderen dat er maatregelen getroffen worden tegen dictaturen...

Waarschijnlijk uit eigenbelang..

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Oorspronkelijk geplaatst door freelancer (Bericht 5821745)

Het is niet meer dan normaal dat niet democratische landen verhinderen dat er maatregelen getroffen worden tegen dictaturen...

Waarschijnlijk uit eigenbelang..

Een neocon met een Breivikse ideologie die over democratie komt lullen, staat nogal lullig... :lol:

De Russische regering stelt me teleur.....ze redeneren blijkbaar nog altijd in termen van zwakte/sterkte...ze kunnen de defenestratie van de NATO nochtans ook gewoon uitzitten en ondertussen ...kassa,kassa voor hun mijnbouw- en energie-industrie.

De Russische "oprispingen" zijn NIET specifiek bedoeld voor Washington (ze gaan er daar eens goed mee lachen)

Ze zijn eigenlijk bedoeld voor West-Europa...Moskou voelt een toenemende zwakte...economisch,militair,politiek....,maar gekoppeld aan een toch buitengewone ARROGANTIE van de EU-politici en NATO-vriendjes als Turkije

Het affront van Libie (waar men verkozen heeft de mening van Rusland en China te negeren),Syrie,waar vooral Turkije,tot groeiende ergernis van Rusland,een steeds meer anti-Assad houding aan het aannemen is,en het groeiend gekweel in de EU omtrent het lot van de anti-Assad-betogers in Syrie ...het begint de beer serieus op de heupen te werken...

Geopolitiek is voor de grote beesten,de EU behoort daar nog steeds niet toe.

niettemin.....stoerspraak is niet nodig.....de EU rijdt zichzelf wel in de vernieling

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Oorspronkelijk geplaatst door Oblique (Bericht 5821713)

Twas maar om te lachen. :lol:

Met Syrië gaan ze zeker door. Wie gaat hen stoppen? De Russen? Daar was toch al een confrontatie mee gepland, laat maar komen.

Het volgende was te verwachten, ze komen en ze zijn er.

israelnews - Report: Russia Sent Syria Super-Advanced S-300 Missiles

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Report: Russia Sent Syria Super-Advanced S-300 Missiles
A report Thursday said that Russia has supplied Syria with advanced S-300 missiles, and has sent advisers to help Syria run the system.
By David Lev
First Publish: 11/24/2011, 1:15 PM

Russian warships that have reached waters off Syria in recent days were carrying, among other things, Russian technical advisors who will help the Syrians set up an array of S-300 missiles Damascus has received in recent weeks, a report in the London-based Arabic language Al Quds-Al Arabi said Thursday. Citing sources in Syria and Russia, the paper said that Moscow sees a Western attack on Syria as a “red line” that it will not tolerate.

Despite the mounting opposition in the West and even in the Arab world against Syrian dictator Bashar al-Assad for his assaults on protesters seeking to unseat him as leader of the country, Russia maintains its support for Assad, the report said. Russian and Syria military officials are working together to maintain Assad's rule, and to deflect a possible attack by NATO or the U.S and EU.

Along with the missiles, the report says that Russia has installed advanced radar systems in all key Syrian military and industrial installations. The radar system also covers areas north and south of Syria, where it will be able to detect movement of troops or aircraft towards the Syrian border. The radar targets include much of Israel, as well as the Incirlik military base in Turkey, which is used by NATO.

The S-300 system is regarded as one of the most potent anti-aircraft missile systems available. The system's radar is able to simultaneously track up to 100 targets while engaging up to 12. Deployment time for the S-300 is five minutes, and they have a very long life span, with no maintenance needed.

Russia had attempted to sell the system to Iran, but that sale was cancelled due to pressure by the U.S. and Israel, with Russia returning Iran's deposit. According to the report, the Iranians paid for Syria's S-300 missile system. It is not known if some of the missiles have reached Iran as well.

en voor zij die Debka lusten...

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debka - Russian warships off Syria, US carriers near Iran

Big power gunboat diplomacy is in full spate in the Mediterranean and Persian Gulf. Washington is underscoring its military option against Iran's nuclear program, while Russia is demonstrating its resolve to prevent NATO attacking Syria after Libya and defending Bashar Assad's regime. Monday, Nov. 21,

Russia's foreign minister Sergey Lavrov accused Western nations of "political provocation" by urging the Syrian opposition to refuse to negotiate a settlement with Assad.

Turkish Prime Minister Tayyip Erdogan, for his part, advised Assad: "You can only continue with tanks and guns to a certain point, the day will come when you will go."
debkafile's military sources note that Russia and America adopted aggressive postures on Nov. 12, when two American carriers, the USS Bush and USS Stennis sailed through the Strait of Hormuz side by side and took up position opposite the Iranian coast.

That was also the day when a mysterious explosion at the Revolutionary Guards base near Tehran wiped out the entire leadership of Iran's ballistic missile program.

Five days later, on Nov. 17, the Syrian news agency reported three Russian naval vessels on the Mediterranean were heading toward Syria.

Monday, Nov. 21, presidential sources in Damascus announced three warships had entered Syrian territorial waters outside Tartus port.
Those sources stressed the Russian ships would not anchor in the Syrian port, indicating that their mission was not just to show the flag for the Assad regime but was on operational duty along its coasts to resist any foreign intervention in Syria unrest.
Our military sources are watching to see whether the Russian flotilla targets the small craft transporting arms from Lebanon and Turkey to Syrian rebels fighting the regime. If so, Moscow would be able to present these strikes as actions against piracy which would fall under a UN Security Council resolution.

While Moscow and Damascus kept the identity of the Russian warships dark, Arab sources said at least two of them are equipped for gathering intelligence and electronic warfare.
As the Russian warships entered Syrian territorial waters, Canadian Defense Minister Peter McKay announced that in the light of the Syrian crisis, the Royal Canadian Navy would keep back in the Mediterranean until the end of 2012 certain vessels which took part in the Libyan campaign.

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Oorspronkelijk geplaatst door freelancer (Bericht 5821745)

Het is niet meer dan normaal dat niet democratische landen verhinderen dat er maatregelen getroffen worden tegen dictaturen...

Waarschijnlijk uit eigenbelang..

en dat is zo. Poetin is een dictator en dus vroeg of laat zou hij in den haag voor de rechter moeten komen voor alles wat hij gedaan heeft

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Oorspronkelijk geplaatst door zonbron (Bericht 5824019)

US to cease observing arms treaty with Russia: State Dept

De VS lijken te slagen voorlopig in hun opzet Europa en Rusland uit elkaar te houden. Europa moet en zal 'atlantistisch' blijven wat de VS betreft, ook al treft zo'n eenzijdige politiek Europa economisch en in haar soevereiniteit. Europa is een nutsgebied geworden. Het zal zich laten uitzuigen en VS puppet blijven ten koste van het welzijn van het grootste deel van haar bevolking indien het haar uitverkochte elite niet ter orde roept.

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Oorspronkelijk geplaatst door Johan Bollen (Bericht 5824318)

De VS lijken te slagen voorlopig in hun opzet Europa en Rusland uit elkaar te houden.

Europa is nooit samen met Rusland geweest en maar goed ook!

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Oorspronkelijk geplaatst door Dixie (Bericht 5825010)

Europa is nooit samen met Rusland geweest en maar goed ook!

tuurlijk die russen hebben betere vriendjes zoals chaves, kim chen ir, assad &co, de marginalen zien mekaar graag.:-D

btw Medvedev wordt in rusland iphonertje genoemd omdat hij zo zot van apple is hij heeft zelfs de allernieuwste ipad2 en zo trots daarop))

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Oorspronkelijk geplaatst door alain_bergmann (Bericht 5825728)

btw Medvedev wordt in rusland iphonertje genoemd omdat hij zo zot van apple is hij heeft zelfs de allernieuwste ipad2 en zo trots daarop))

Wat hebben de Russen u misdaan dat ge zulke banaliteiten aanhaalt?

De Russische beer is terug, hij brult weer. De koude oorlog is nog niet gedaan.

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The Russian Bear Is Back, The Soviet Union Is Being Revived And The Cold War Is Not Over

If you believe that the United States is the "sole superpower" in the world, then you really need to read the rest of this article. Most Americans have very little idea what is actually going on in the rest of the world and how the global balance of power is shifting. For example, can you name the country that is the number one oil producer in the world, the number one oil exporter in the world, the number one exporter of natural gas in the world and that also has the second most powerful military in the entire world? In case you need a hint, it is not Saudi Arabia, it is not China and it is not the United States. The correct answer is Russia. The Russian Bear is back in a big way. Did you know that Russia is rapidly becoming one of the top suppliers of oil to the United States? Russia has vast natural resources, a national debt that is very low (ratio of publicly held debt to GDP is less than 10%) and an economy that has boomed over the past decade. Russia is busy flexing its muscles in many different ways. For example, many are pointing out that the "Eurasian economic union" that Russia is putting together is a significant move in the direction of a revival of the Soviet Union. Russia is also rapidly modernizing its military and developing very powerful new weapons systems. Most Americans believe that the Cold War is over and that Russia is a toothless bear that no longer represents a threat. It is difficult to find words to describe how wrong that assessment of the situation is.

The other night during the Republican debate the candidates said next to nothing about Russia. It was almost as if the second most powerful superpower on the planet did not even exist.

That debate was yet another example of just how bizarre our foreign policy has become. As you will see below, if there is one country on the face of the planet that could defeat the United States in a war, it is Russia.

And if you believe that Russia is now our "friend", then you have been seriously deceived.

The Cold War is not over. In fact, activity by Russian intelligence agents inside the United States and other western nations is now at least at Cold War levels.

And tensions between the United States and Russia are rising on multiple fronts.

For instance, Russian President Dmitry Medvedev has announced that Russia is going to deploy new nuclear missiles that will be specifically targeted at U.S. missile defense installations if the United States proceeds with plans for a missile defense shield in Europe.

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The world is changing and the American people need to wake up.

While the United States spends hundreds of billions of dollars chasing around goat herders in Afghanistan, Russia is preparing for nuclear war with the United States.

Did you know that Russia has been spending huge amounts of money building a vast system of underground bunkers and shelters?

In Moscow alone, 5000 new "emergency bomb shelters" are being constructed. The goal is to have enough shelters to hold nearly the entire population of Moscow and the plan calls for all the shelters to be completed by the end of 2012. When construction is finally finished, virtually the entire population of Moscow will be able to reach a bomb shelter within a matter of minutes. You can see a video news report about this development right here.

So what is the U.S. government doing to prepare all of us?

Nothing.

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In recent years Russia has also developed submarines that are too "quiet" for us to track and ballistic missiles that can evade all of our missile defense systems.

While the U.S. has been making strategic mistakes like helping al-Qaeda take over Libya, Russia has been developing devastating new weapons systems. The following are just a couple of examples....

*In 2010, Russia introduced their new "fourth generation" nuclear submarine to the world, which is apparently quieter than any other submarine in existence.

*A while back, Russian Prime Minister Vladimir Putin climbed into the cockpit of Russia's new "fifth generation" fighter jet and announced that it was far superior to the F-22 Raptor.

But most Americans don't know any of this.

As the United States drowns in debt, Russia is thriving.

According to an article in Forbes, Moscow is now the third most expensive city in the world in which to live. An article posted by CNN says that Moscow is the fourth most expensive city.

In fact, the cost of living is higher in Moscow than in any city in the United States.

Now there are even fears that Russia is trying to put the old Soviet Union back together.

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But the truth is that Russia is much stronger politically, economically and militarily right now than the Soviet Union ever was.

And significant portions of the Russian population have developed a great fondness for Soviet nostalgia. Many of them wish that the Soviet Union was never broken up.

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If Russia was ever able to pull off a successful first strike and take out most of our remaining nuclear warheads (remember, our nuclear arsenal is now less than 10% the size it used to be), it is entirely possible that Russia would be able to totally defeat the United States in a future war - especially if they are allied with China at the time.

Most people in the U.S. think that this can never happen, but the top brass in Russia and in China spend long hours on exactly such scenarios.

Sadly, very little about Russia will be said during the entire 2012 election season. Instead, everyone will be focused on the "massive threat" posed by the goat herders that are running around the hills of Afghanistan.
Lees dit en veel meer : endoftheamericandream - the-russian-bear-is-back-the-soviet-union-is-being-revived-and-the-cold-war-is-not-over

Buiten brullen kunnen ze niet veel doen helaas. Als ze Syrië aanvallen, kunnen ze hen niet eens gaan redden. Rusland is geen grootmacht. Op het gebied van kernwapens wel natuurlijk. Maar ja, wat gaan ze doen, nuken?

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Oorspronkelijk geplaatst door Oblique (Bericht 5825984)

De Russen en de BRIC-landen hebben vandaag nogmaals nadrukkelijk laten weten dat de toestemming tot interventie via de VN moet.

Tja, wat zouden ze nuken ? Ze kunnen met die S300 en ander speelgoed wel wat uit de lucht halen als ze zo moedig blijken.

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Oorspronkelijk geplaatst door zonbron (Bericht 5825990)

De Russen en de BRIC-landen hebben vandaag nogmaals nadrukkelijk laten weten dat de toestemming tot interventie via de VN moet.

en als de VN de toestemming geeft wordt er weer gelult zoals in Libië zeker:roll:
het wordt tijd dat China en Ruland ook eens de mouwen opstropen om de aarde te ontdoen van verwerpelijke regimes...

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Oorspronkelijk geplaatst door Dixie (Bericht 5826050)

en als de VN de toestemming geeft wordt er weer gelult zoals in Libië zeker:roll:
het wordt tijd dat China en Ruland ook eens de mouwen opstropen om de aarde te ontdoen van verwerpelijke regimes...

Als Rusland een veto stelt, kan er van toestemming geen spraken zijn... Echter willen uw terroristenvrienden de VN weer omzeilen.

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Oorspronkelijk geplaatst door Dixie (Bericht 5826050)

het wordt tijd dat China en Ruland ook eens de mouwen opstropen om de aarde te ontdoen van verwerpelijke regimes...

Zodat Saudi Arabië alleen overblijft zeker? Want die dikke vrienden van de VS blijven buiten schot, no matter what. Al kwam er een 2de en zelfs 3rde 9/11...