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zonbron 30 september 2014 18:00

0,0 coördinatie met de Amerikaanse coalitie,niet met Syrië noch met het FSA
 
De VS raadpleegt de Syrische overheid niet, noch hun boots on the ground, het FSA.

Haarfijne precisiebombardementen, de Amerikaanse coalitie bombardeert bijna het hoofdkwartier van het FSA... Nul,nul coördinatie tussen het door het westen gesteunde FSA en de VS-coalitie. Burgerslachtoffers vallen onvermijdelijk...

De VS en haar coalitie gaan er dus duidelijk solo op los tijdens dit nieuwe groots pyrotechnisch spektakel waaraan reeds een prijsetiketje van ruim 1 miljard aan hangt.

Een AQ-kamp gesitueerd net naast het hoofdkwartier van het FSA, Nusra dat soms samenwerkt met ISIS en dan weer elkaar bestrijden. Het is voor de VS blijkbaar moeilijk, zoniet onmogelijk, om samen te werken met de door het westen gesteunde vrijheidsstrijders. De komende weken verwacht men wat meer samenwerking, ondertussen vallen de bommen her en der.


Exclusive: America’s Allies Almost Bombed in Syrian Airstrikes
The White House says it wants to work with Syria’s moderate rebels. But warplanes from the U.S.-led coalition came awfully close to striking one of their HQs

http://www.thedailybeast.com/article...irstrikes.html
Last week, an airstrike from the American-led coalition nearly hit a command-and-control facility affiliated with the Free Syrian Army, the moderate rebels the Obama administration says are America’s “boots on the ground,” according to two opposition leaders. They are asking the Obama administration to please coordinate with them in the future before America bombs its only allies in Syria.

Since U.S. airstrikes against ISIS in Syria began on Sept. 22, there has been no coordination between the U.S. military and its alleged partners on the ground, according to FSA leaders, civilian opposition leaders, and intelligence sources who have been briefed on the U.S. and allied military operation. It’s this lack of communication that led to an airstrike that hit only 200 meters from an FSA facility in the suburbs of Idlib. One source briefed on the incident said multiple FSA fighters were killed in the attack.

“Unfortunately, there is zero coordination with the Free Syrian Army. Because there is no coordination, we are seeing civilian casualties. Because there is no coordination, they are hitting empty buildings for ISIS,” Hussam Al Marie, the spokesman for the FSA in northern Syria, told The Daily Beast. “We have been getting promises that the coordination will be coming, but we have been getting promises since the beginning of this revolution and nothing has happened yet.”

The incident, which was not been previously reported, doesn’t just highlight the gap between the U.S. and its newly-endorsed allies in the moderate opposition, however. It also shows how complicated it can be to make alliances in the multi-factioned Syrian civil war. The coalition airstrike was targeting a base used by al Nusrah, the local al Qaeda affiliate. And the camp was, essentially, next door to the FSA facility. The al Qaeda fighters and the U.S-endorsed rebels were neighbors—and, at times, partners in battle against ISIS and the Bashar al-Assad regime.

“Because there is no coordination, [the U.S.-led coalition] hit an al Nusrah base in the Idlib suburbs that is only 200 meters from the Free Syrian Army,” Al Marie said.

There were 11 civilian casualties after the first day of U.S.-led airstrikes inside Syria, according to the FSA, and at least one more when the coalition struck a Shariah Court near Idlib two days ago that was under the control of al Nusrah. The U.S. government has said it cannot confirm any civilian casualties but will investigate any accidents.

“There are always civilian casualties when they are hitting al Nusrah because al Nusrah is just living among the people,” said Al Marie. “They didn’t do any real harm to ISIS, the buildings of ISIS were empty. Meanwhile, the main battle on the ground against ISIS hasn’t been supported yet. That’s the important thing, the ground battle.”

Lege huizen van ISIS worden gebombardeerd, onschuldige slachtoffers vallen, Nusra leeft gewoonweg tussen de burgers en het FSA-hoofdkwartier krijgt bijna een love bomb op het hoofd.

Zie hier de westerse superieuriteit in actie, opnieuw gewoonweg ongecontroleerd grof geweld...

Adrian M 30 september 2014 18:19

Citaat:

Oorspronkelijk geplaatst door zonbron (Bericht 7343706)
De VS raadpleegt de Syrische overheid niet, noch hun boots on the ground, het FSA.

Haarfijne precisiebombardementen, de Amerikaanse coalitie bombardeert bijna het hoofdkwartier van het FSA... Nul,nul coördinatie tussen het door het westen gesteunde FSA en de VS, coalitie. Burgerslachtoffers vallen onvermijdelijk.

De VS en haar coalitie gaan er dus duidelijk solo op los tijdens dit groots pyrotechnisch spektakel.


Exclusive: America’s Allies Almost Bombed in Syrian Airstrikes
The White House says it wants to work with Syria’s moderate rebels. But warplanes from the U.S.-led coalition came awfully close to striking one of their HQs

http://www.thedailybeast.com/article...irstrikes.html
Last week, an airstrike from the American-led coalition nearly hit a command-and-control facility affiliated with the Free Syrian Army, the moderate rebels the Obama administration says are America’s “boots on the ground,” according to two opposition leaders. They are asking the Obama administration to please coordinate with them in the future before America bombs its only allies in Syria.

Since U.S. airstrikes against ISIS in Syria began on Sept. 22, there has been no coordination between the U.S. military and its alleged partners on the ground, according to FSA leaders, civilian opposition leaders, and intelligence sources who have been briefed on the U.S. and allied military operation. It’s this lack of communication that led to an airstrike that hit only 200 meters from an FSA facility in the suburbs of Idlib. One source briefed on the incident said multiple FSA fighters were killed in the attack.

“Unfortunately, there is zero coordination with the Free Syrian Army. Because there is no coordination, we are seeing civilian casualties. Because there is no coordination, they are hitting empty buildings for ISIS,” Hussam Al Marie, the spokesman for the FSA in northern Syria, told The Daily Beast. “We have been getting promises that the coordination will be coming, but we have been getting promises since the beginning of this revolution and nothing has happened yet.”

The incident, which was not been previously reported, doesn’t just highlight the gap between the U.S. and its newly-endorsed allies in the moderate opposition, however. It also shows how complicated it can be to make alliances in the multi-factioned Syrian civil war. The coalition airstrike was targeting a base used by al Nusrah, the local al Qaeda affiliate. And the camp was, essentially, next door to the FSA facility. The al Qaeda fighters and the U.S-endorsed rebels were neighbors—and, at times, partners in battle against ISIS and the Bashar al-Assad regime.

“Because there is no coordination, [the U.S.-led coalition] hit an al Nusrah base in the Idlib suburbs that is only 200 meters from the Free Syrian Army,” Al Marie said.

There were 11 civilian casualties after the first day of U.S.-led airstrikes inside Syria, according to the FSA, and at least one more when the coalition struck a Shariah Court near Idlib two days ago that was under the control of al Nusrah. The U.S. government has said it cannot confirm any civilian casualties but will investigate any accidents.

“There are always civilian casualties when they are hitting al Nusrah because al Nusrah is just living among the people,” said Al Marie. “They didn’t do any real harm to ISIS, the buildings of ISIS were empty. Meanwhile, the main battle on the ground against ISIS hasn’t been supported yet. That’s the important thing, the ground battle.”

Lege huizen van ISIS worden gebombardeerd, onschuldige slachtoffers vallen, Nusa leeft gewoonweg tussen de burgers en het FSA-hoofdkwartier krijgt bijna een love bomb op het hoofd.

Zie hier de westerse superieuriteit in actie, opnieuw gewoonweg ongecontroleerd grof geweld...

De Syrische overheid wordt dan ook niet erkend .... door de meeste landen.
Behalve dan door wat kornuiten van Assad

Behalve bij deze figuren zijn er weinig landen waar hij nog terecht kan om niet opgepakt te worden en niet voor het internationaal gerechtshof te komen.

zonbron 30 september 2014 18:25

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Oorspronkelijk geplaatst door Adrian M (Bericht 7343731)
De Syrische overheid wordt dan ook niet erkend .... door de meeste landen.
Behalve dan door wat kornuiten van Assad

Behalve bij deze figuren zijn er weinig landen waar hij nog terecht kan om niet opgepakt te worden en niet voor het internationaal gerechtshof te komen.

In dat geval heeft de coalitie daar niets verloren. Ophoepelen is dus de duidelijke boodschap. De coalitie en hun operaties zijn een grote grap, maar wel een slechte.

Niemand wil de coalitie der democratiebommen in Syrië. Noch Assad, noch de terroristen. En gematigde rebellen zegt U? Onzin, die bestaan niet. Waar zijn ze? Toon maar eens aan. Obama zou graag in SA 5000 nieuwe gematigde rebellen opleiden, vers jihadistisch kanonnenvlees dus, daar komt dat uiteindelijk op neer.

Nee meneer, de ganse anti-Syrië operatie is a bloody mess, van begin tot einde.

In the fight against ISIS in northern Syria, the FSA often fights alongside other rebel groups with varying levels of Islamic flavor: the Islamic Front, the Tawheed Brigade, and even the al Qaeda-linked al Nusrah Front. FSA fighters are moving around the area all the time and sometimes have to pass through al Nusrah checkpoints to get where they are going. And yet, according to the Obama administration, these moderate rebels can be trusted—despite their alliances of convenience with al Qaeda’s official affiliate in Syria. (On Sunday, the leader of al Nusrah made his first public statement in eight months, telling moderate rebels that his group, and not the United States, was their true partner.)

“Unfortunately, there is zero coordination with the Free Syrian Army. Because there is no coordination, we are seeing civilian casualties. Because there is no coordination, they are hitting empty buildings for ISIS.”

Now, in addition to the Assad regime and ISIS, they have to worry about getting killed by U.S. and coalition airstrikes on al Nusrah targets too. Already, one Syrian rebel group supported in the past by the United States condemned the aerial attacks, calling them “an attack on national sovereignty” and demanding that the West train its firepower on Assad instead. To make matters worse, some FSA leaders now say that the airstrikes are threatening to push many rebel groups—including al Nusrah—back toward the side of ISIS.

“Before there were terrorists fighting terrorists. Now, after the airstrikes, you could see them working together against a common enemy (the United States), which is not what we want to see at all,” said Al Marie.

In President Obama’s Sept. 10 speech to the nation announcing his new strategy against ISIS, the president said, “We must strengthen the opposition as the best counterweight to” ISIS. He then called on Congress to authorize a program to train and equip 5,000 rebels per year in Saudi Arabia, which they did. Sunday night on CBS’s 60 Minutes, the President defended his decision to avoid arming the moderate Syrian rebels for the last two years, as most of his top national security officials had recommended.

Adrian M 30 september 2014 20:13

Citaat:

Oorspronkelijk geplaatst door zonbron (Bericht 7343736)
In dat geval heeft de coalitie daar niets verloren. Ophoepelen is dus de duidelijke boodschap. De coalitie en hun operaties zijn een grote grap, maar wel een slechte.

Niemand wil de coalitie der democratiebommen in Syrië. Noch Assad, noch de terroristen. En gematigde rebellen zegt U? Onzin, die bestaan niet. Waar zijn ze? Toon maar eens aan. Obama zou graag in SA 5000 nieuwe gematigde rebellen opleiden, vers jihadistisch kanonnenvlees dus, daar komt dat uiteindelijk op neer.

Nee meneer, de ganse anti-Syrië operatie is a bloody mess, van begin tot einde.

In the fight against ISIS in northern Syria, the FSA often fights alongside other rebel groups with varying levels of Islamic flavor: the Islamic Front, the Tawheed Brigade, and even the al Qaeda-linked al Nusrah Front. FSA fighters are moving around the area all the time and sometimes have to pass through al Nusrah checkpoints to get where they are going. And yet, according to the Obama administration, these moderate rebels can be trusted—despite their alliances of convenience with al Qaeda’s official affiliate in Syria. (On Sunday, the leader of al Nusrah made his first public statement in eight months, telling moderate rebels that his group, and not the United States, was their true partner.)

“Unfortunately, there is zero coordination with the Free Syrian Army. Because there is no coordination, we are seeing civilian casualties. Because there is no coordination, they are hitting empty buildings for ISIS.”

Now, in addition to the Assad regime and ISIS, they have to worry about getting killed by U.S. and coalition airstrikes on al Nusrah targets too. Already, one Syrian rebel group supported in the past by the United States condemned the aerial attacks, calling them “an attack on national sovereignty” and demanding that the West train its firepower on Assad instead. To make matters worse, some FSA leaders now say that the airstrikes are threatening to push many rebel groups—including al Nusrah—back toward the side of ISIS.

“Before there were terrorists fighting terrorists. Now, after the airstrikes, you could see them working together against a common enemy (the United States), which is not what we want to see at all,” said Al Marie.

In President Obama’s Sept. 10 speech to the nation announcing his new strategy against ISIS, the president said, “We must strengthen the opposition as the best counterweight to” ISIS. He then called on Congress to authorize a program to train and equip 5,000 rebels per year in Saudi Arabia, which they did. Sunday night on CBS’s 60 Minutes, the President defended his decision to avoid arming the moderate Syrian rebels for the last two years, as most of his top national security officials had recommended.

Gematigde terroristen? Waar leest u dat dan wel? Misschien toch uw bril maar eens opzetten en opnieuw lezen

zonbron 30 september 2014 20:39

Citaat:

Oorspronkelijk geplaatst door Adrian M (Bericht 7343868)
Gematigde terroristen? Waar leest u dat dan wel? Misschien toch uw bril maar eens opzetten en opnieuw lezen

Als ik mijn bril opzet kan ik de gematigde oppositie nog steeds niet zien, zelfs niet met een microscoop. Nog steeds toont U niet aan wie, wat of waar deze gematigde oppositie dan wel IS. ;-)

Nr.10 30 september 2014 21:26

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Oorspronkelijk geplaatst door zonbron (Bericht 7343890)
Als ik mijn bril opzet kan ik de gematigde oppositie nog steeds niet zien, zelfs niet met een microscoop. Nog steeds toont U niet aan wie, wat of waar deze gematigde oppositie dan wel IS. ;-)

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