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Ambiorix 15 april 2005 15:06

Siegfried Verbeke vraagt zelftest Zyklon-B.
 
Negationist vraagt test met Zyklon-B


Het Antwerpse hof van beroep veroordeelde uitgever Siegfried Verbeke (63) uit Kortrijk gisteren tot één jaar effectief en een boete van 2.500 euro. De man wordt voor 10 jaar uit zijn burgerrechten ontzet.

Verbeke is een negationist en ontkent de georganiseerde volkerenmoord op de joden tijdens de Tweede Wereldoorlog. Het hof ziet hem als ,,een spilfiguur, zowel nationaal als internationaal, in de verspreiding van een racistisch geïnspireerd ideeëngoed.''

Zijn negationistische ideeën bleken gisteren opnieuw. Verbeke beweert dat de joden onmogelijk zijn vergast met het beruchte Zyklon-B. Hij wil onder wetenschappelijk toezicht worden opgesloten in een ruimte met Zyklon-B. ,,Je kan met dat gas nog geen kat doden. Het duurt meer dan dertien uur voor Zyklon-B werkt.'' Verbeke stapt naar Cassatie.

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serieus? is het echt onschadelijk? weet iemand hier meer van?

PurpleQueen 15 april 2005 15:08

Ik heb een voorstel: als die man dat zo graag wil, laat het hem dan uittesten.
Als hij er levend uitkomt, moet hij niet de cel in
Als hij er niet levend uitkomt, tjah...opgeruimd staat netjes

Ambiorix 15 april 2005 15:16

inderdaad, hij mag het gerust uitproberen, maar ze moeten hem inderdaad wel vrijlaten als hij het overleeft.

Jozef Ostyn 15 april 2005 16:28

Die man is gewoon geschift.

Turkje 15 april 2005 17:01

Citaat:

Oorspronkelijk geplaatst door Zwart & Geel
serieus? is het echt onschadelijk? weet iemand hier meer van?

Zyklon B is een vorm van waterstofcyanide (HCN), ook wel gekend onder de naam "blauwzuur". Het is extreem giftig (US OSHA regulering). Als je wilt weten wat dat productje kan doen, google dan maar eens op "Bhopal" en "Union Carbide"....

/\|cazar 15 april 2005 17:14

waterstofcyanide.


toedienen maar !

Citaat:

Chemical properties:

Hydrogen cyanide has a bitter, almond-like odor and bitter, burning taste. Its boiling point is 25.6 degrees C, and melting point is -13.4 degrees C. It has a corrosive effect under two conditions: water solutions of hydrogen cyanide cause stress-cracking of carbon steels under stress even at room temperature and in dilute solution, and water solutions of hydrogen cyanide containing sulfuric acid as a stabilizer severely corrode steel above 40 degrees C. Liquid hydrogen cyanide will attack some forms of plastics, rubber and coatings. Hydrogen cyanide is miscible with water and alcohol, and slightly soluble in ether. It is incompatible or reactive with amines, oxidizers, acids, sodium hydroxide, calcium hydroxide, sodium carbonate, caustics, and ammonia. It is intensely poisonous even when mixed with air, and is highly toxic to all species in water. Synonyms are hydrocyanic acid, prussic acid, aero liquid HCN, carbon hydride nitride, formic anammonide, and formonitrile.
Economics:

U.S. manufacturers of hydrogen cyanide are American Cyanamid Co., Avondale, LA; BP America, Inc., Green Lake, TX; Ciba-Geigy Corporation, St. Gabriel, LA; DeGussa Corporation, Theodore, AL; Dow Chemical, Freeport, TX; E.I. DuPont de Nemours, Beaumont, TX, Orange, TX, and Victoria, TX; Monsanto Co., Chocolate Bayou, TX; Rohm and Haas Company, Deer Park, TX; and Sterling Chemicals, Inc., Texas City, TX.
Health effects:

Hydrogen cyanide is acutely poisonous; both the vapor and liquid are extremely poisonous if absorbed through lungs, skin, or eyes. Massive doses may cause sudden loss of consciousness, asphyxiation, and death from respiratory arrest. Unconsciousness can also be followed by violent convulsions, paralysis, protruding eyeballs with dilated and unreactive pupils, and foaming mouth. Exposure can cause blindness and damage optic nerves and retina. Other symptoms of hydrogen cyanide exposure in lesser concentrations include salivation, nausea, vomiting, hyperpnea, dyspnea, an irregular and weak pulse, anxiety, confusion, tachypnea, vertigo, giddiness, stiffness of the jaw, neurasthenia, breathlessness, bradycardia, arterial hypotonia, polycythemia, hepatic impairment, and thyroidal hypofunction. Chronic exposure to hydrogen cyanide gas can cause eye irritation, conjunctivitis, or superficial keratitis. Laetrile and amygdalin-containing fruit pits, in cherries, peaches, apricots, apples, and pears, have been implicated as causes of acute cyanide poisoning. People with chronic diseases of the kidneys, respiratory tract, skin, or thyroid are at greater risk of developing toxic cyanide effects.

Horus 15 april 2005 17:17

pect voor het milieu
Citaat:

Oorspronkelijk geplaatst door Turkje
Zyklon B is een vorm van waterstofcyanide (HCN), ook wel gekend onder de naam "blauwzuur". Het is extreem giftig (US OSHA regulering). Als je wilt weten wat dat productje kan doen, google dan maar eens op "Bhopal" en "Union Carbide"....

ssstt, gewoon zwijgen en doen die test....... wel life uitzenden als het kan :-)

PAJOT 15 april 2005 18:13

THE SUBSTANCE IS CAPABLE of killing people, of that there is no doubt. The problems with it are at least threefold. First, it would be a remarkably poor choice to be made by the people who invented (and did not use) the nerve gas Sarin. Second, the release of the gas from its carrier pellets is a process that takes 2 to 3 hours to complete, longer than that in cold climates such as northern Poland, a trait quite at odds with descriptions of its almost instantaneous effect. Third, cyanide fumes (HCN in the vapor state) react with and leave residual traces of a highly stable cyanide compound in the mortar of brickwork. Chemical analyses of samples taken from alleged homicidal gassing chambers were compared with samples taken from buildings known to have been used for delousing clothing and bedding to stem the incidence of typhus. The walls of the delousing chambers had residual cyanide levels as high as 13,500 parts per million, while the rooms said to be gas chambers had on the average about 2 parts per million, within the zero error of the measurement technique and similar to that found in other buildings nearby (used as a base of comparison) that may have been fumigated a few times during the war.

The chemical measurements have been verified by several researchers: Leuchter, Rudolf, Ball, and a Polish commission from the University of Kracow (I think I'm leaving one out, perhaps an Austrian engineer). The Polish group made their tests in an attempt to refute those that came earlier. On their first pass, much to the dismay of those who seek to sustain the illusion, their numbers agreed with the other researchers. Another commission was assembled in 1994 (or thereabouts) that came back with results that disagreed with the first, because of some word trickery that limited the scope of the tests. A claim is made that since the two buildings in question at Birkenau were dynamited, the residuals were washed out by 50 years of acid rain. This simply is not the case. Samples were taken from the partially intact morgue room of Krema II at Birkenau, where the foot-thick reinforced concrete roof only fell several feet as one distorted and cracked but still intact piece rather than being scattered as rubble. There is a large portion of the room still accessible, and well protected from rain. But in any case, this excuse fails to address why one can still measure extremely high levels of Prussian blue (the cyanide residual) on the exterior walls of building BW 5b, a delousing facility at Birkenau. Samples taken from the walls fully exposed to the 50 years of rain ranged from 2,000 parts per million to 10,000, and the highly visible dark stains in the brickwork reveal the presence of Prussian blue even without a test. You can see the same effect on brick structures in mining installations throughout the world, wherever ore with a high cyanide content is smelted.

bron : gecensureerd door het regime

groene flamingant 15 april 2005 18:16

Zeker doen! Redenen:

1. Eén negationist minder.
2. Misschien toch enkele andere negationisten die beginnen te twijfelen aan hun ideeën.


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