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Mijn punt is: Wat moet ik geloven ? Is het nu vrijheids van menings uiting of is dat vrijheids van menings uiting met begrensde waarden ?? Of is dat vrijheids van menings uiting alleen beschikbaar voor "je-weet-wel-wie" of is dat een recht die iedereen eraan kan permitteren ?? of is dat V.V.M.Uiting met beperkingen ?? Want ik kan echt niet meer volgen ?? echt waar en ik meen het...ik weet niet wat ik moet geloven, voor het ééne mag je een boek verbranden, mo7amed beledigen etz,etz...voor het andere je mag geen boek verbranden, geen doden beledigen...wat ik wil is een duidelijke singnaal !!!
(Of is dit fenomeen alleen in duitsland en niet in heel europa of is dat in heel europa, of alleen in dat duitse stad indien ja; zijn er dan verschillen tussen rechtbanken of ie het aan de rechters die ieder een eigen interpretatie aanneemt tov de wet ???) |
In Duitsland is nazisme natuurlijk een beetje een gevoelig punt. Hitler prijzen en boeken verbranden wordt daar niet geappricieerd, en een veel beter boek hadden ze ook niet kunnen kiezen om hun standpunt duidelijk te maken. De Koran is symbool van een volk, en als je aan de Koran komt kom je aan hen. Het dagboek van Anne Frank is symbool van de vervolging van een volk, een gruwelijke moordpartij, waarmee sommigen graag opnieuw willen beginnen.
Ik neem trouwens aan dat ze met een kopie bedoelen dat het niet het oorspronkelijke dagboek was, gewoon een boek dus. |
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Je hebt 100% gelijk. Van mijn part mogen mensen hun privé-boeken altijd verbranden of door het toilet spoelen. Of het nu met de Koran of het dagboek van Anne Frank gebeurt maakt niet uit. |
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http://www.globalsecurity.org/ NEWS RELEASE - June 3, 2005 - FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE Enclosure 1: Koran Inquiry: Description of Incidents (As reported by the JTF-Guantanamo Commander’s Inquiry Team) … 3. We found 15 incidents where detainees mishandled Korans. a. On 19 NOV 02, a detainee used his Koran as a pillow while he lay in his cell. The guards on duty recorded this incident in the electronic blotter. b. On 11 MAY 03, a guard observed a detainee rip up his Koran and state he was no longer a Muslim. The guard recorded the incident contemporaneously in a sworn statement. c. On 14 MAY 03, a guard observed a detainee rip his Koran into small pieces. The guard recorded the incident contemporaneously in a sworn statement. d. On 5 JUN 03, a guard observed two detainees accuse a third detainee of not being a man. In response, the detainee urinated on one of their Korans. The detainees resided in adjacent cells. The event was recorded in FBI FD-302s, on 5 JUN 03 and 19 JUN 03. e. On 17 JUN 03, a detainee began to laugh as the detainees near him prayed. He asked for the Sergeant of the Guard and an interpreter. When they arrived he threw his Koran around his cell. Then he requested that the interpreter place his Koran in the box each detainee has above his cell in order to offend the rest of the block. Guard personnel recorded the detainee’s actions in the electronic blotter system. 5 f. On 24 JUN 03, a guard observed a detainee rip his Koran and throw it out of his cell. The guard recorded the incident contemporaneously in a sworn statement. g. On 26 JUL 03, a detainee threw his Koran on his cell floor. Detainees residing near him complained to the guards about his actions and he was moved to a different cell. Guard personnel recorded the detainee’s actions in the electronic blotter system. h. On 5 DEC 03, two detainees complained to a guard that a third detainee had urinated in their cells to prevent them from praying. The first two detainees resided in the cells adjacent to the third detainee at the time. They stated that when they tried to pray or read the Koran, the third detainee spat and threw urine on them. The first two detainees were subsequently moved to different cells. Guard personnel recorded these actions and the relocation of the two detainees in the electronic blotter system. i. On 23 FEB 04, a guard observed a detainee place two Korans in his toilet and state he no longer cared about the Koran or his religion. Five minutes later, after the detainee retrieved the Korans, he ripped several pages out of one Koran and threw the pages on the floor. Then he placed both Korans on the sink. The guard recorded the incident contemporaneously in a sworn statement. j. On 22 MAR 04, guard personnel observed a detainee tear the cover off of his Koran while inside his cell. The incident was recorded in the electronic blotter system. k. On 28 MAR 04, a detainee asked a guard to move a second detainee because he was throwing urine on the first detainee’s Koran. The guard recorded the first detainee’s request in the electronic blotter system. We have been unable to verify if the detainee was moved as requested. l. On 21 SEP 04, an unknown guard conducted a routine search of a detainee’s cell. During the search the guard discovered that the detainee had ripped out pages of his Koran. The detainee used tape from the Koran binding to secure the Koran pages over the vent to keep the air from coming into his cell. The incident was recorded in the electronic blotter system. m. On 19 JAN 05, a detainee tore up his Koran and tried to flush it down the toilet. Four guards witnessed the incident and it was recorded in the electronic blotter system. n. On 23 JAN 05, a detainee ripped pages out of his Koran and threw them down the toilet. The detainee stated he did so because he wanted to be moved to another camp. Four guards witnessed the incident and it was recorded in the electronic blotter system. o. On 18 FEB 05, a detainee ripped up his Koran and handed it to a guard. The detainee stated he had given up on being a Muslim. Several other guards witnessed the incident and it was recorded in the electronic blotter system. |
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de aard van het beestje, mensen werken graag met verschillende maten en gewichten, als het maar in hun eigen voordeel is. |
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