Los bericht bekijken
Oud 15 juli 2020, 14:58   #6
morte-vivante
Perm. Vertegenwoordiger VN
 
morte-vivante's schermafbeelding
 
Geregistreerd: 13 december 2010
Berichten: 10.112
Standaard

dat is geen factchecking (want geen enkele bron die het artikel tegenspreekt), dit is "redeneren naar een vooraf bepaald doel", zijnde uw conclusie, zonder alternatieve bronnen of feiten die uw "redeneren" ondersteunen.

hier is de eigenlijke beschrijving van de cluster (en dus geen nieuwsartikel)

belangrijke gegevens:
Citaat:
On March 19, 2020, case-patient A0 returned to Heilongjiang Province from the United States; she was asked to quarantine at home. She lived alone during her stay in Heilongjiang Province. She had negative SARS-CoV-2 nucleic acid and serum antibody tests on March 31 and April 3.
ze testte negatief 12 dagen na terugkeer

Citaat:
Patient B1.1 was the downstairs neighbor of case-patient A0. They used the same elevator in the building but not at the same time and did not have close contact otherwise. On March 26, B1.1’s mother, B2.2, and her mother’s boyfriend, B2.3, visited and stayed in B1.1’s home all night. On March 29, B2.2 and B2.3 attended a party with patient C1.1 and his sons, C1.2 and C1.3.
onthou die datums en patienten
Citaat:
On April 7, patient B2.3 first noted symptoms of COVID-19. He tested positive for SARS-CoV-2 on April 9, the first confirmed case in this cluster. His close contacts, B1.1, B2.1, B2.2, and C1.1, subsequently tested positive for SARS-CoV-2 on April 9 or 10.
patient B1.1 was niet op het feestje, en kan daar dus niet besmet zijn geraakt.
C1.1 was wel op datzelfde feestje, en geraakte er besmet
Citaat:
On April 2, C1.1 suffered a stroke and was admitted to hospital 1. His sons, C1.2 and C1.3, cared for him in ward area 1 of the hospital. Patient C1.1 shared the same clinical team and items, such as a microwave, with other patients in the ward. On April 6, patient C1.1 was transferred to hospital 2 because of fever; C1.2 and C1.3 accompanied him.
Citaat:
During C1.1’s admission at hospital 1, a total of 28 other persons, D1.1–BB1.1, were infected with SARS-CoV-2 in ward area 1. Because all patients in the ward could ambulate, 4 persons, CC1.1, DD1.1, EE1.1, and FF1.1, were infected in other wards and in the computed tomography room of hospital 1. Among hospital 1 staff, 5 nurses and 1 doctor were infected. In hospital 2, another 20 persons, GG1.1–VV1.1, were infected in the ward where C1.1 stayed
Citaat:
On April 7, patient B2.3 first noted symptoms of COVID-19. He tested positive for SARS-CoV-2 on April 9, the first confirmed case in this cluster. His close contacts, B1.1, B2.1, B2.2, and C1.1, subsequently tested positive for SARS-CoV-2 on April 9 or 10. Patient C1.1 was quarantined in hospital 2 when he tested positive on April 9. The epidemiologic investigation showed that none of these 5 persons had a history of travel or residence in affected areas with sustained transmission of SARS-CoV-2 during the 14 days before diagnosis, suggesting that SARS-CoV-2 came from contact with other persons.
Citaat:
On April 15, the Chinese Center for Disease Control and Prevention sequenced the entire genomes of 21 samples from the cluster. Viral genomes were identical in 18 cases and 3 other cases had a difference of 1–2 nucleotides, indicating that SARS-CoV-2 came from the same point of origin. The viral genome sequences from the cluster were distinct from the viral genomes previously circulating in China, indicating the virus originated abroad
conclusie:
Ja, dat feestje was een belangrijke bron van verspreiding (B2.3 naar C1.1), maar het ziekenhuis was belangrijker voor de uitbreiding van de cluster.
Dat feestje was niet de start van de cluster, anders was B1.1 nooit besmet geraakt.
Genetische analyse toont aan dat de cluster het gevolg is van 1 bronbesmetting, en dat die virale sequentie niet overeen komt met de sequentie die op dat moment circuleerde. Dus moet dat virus met die sequentie wel geimporteerd zijn.

Foute punten uit uw post:
Citaat:
gaan ervan uit dat niemand in de provincie Covid-19 had omdat niemand meer positief testte
want op 13/04/2020:
China reports highest number of Covid-19 cases in weeks
Citaat:
China's northeast Heilongjiang province which borders Russia has become the new battleground against the coronavirus as authorities reported the highest number of new daily cases in nearly six weeks, driven by infected travellers from overseas.
meeste import kwam uit Rusland, en het aantal nieuwe patienten die lokaal besmet geraakte was minimaal

Citaat:
De vrouw toonde geen symptomen maar testte daarbij ook negatief, toch ging ze in isolatie na haar trip van de VS.
ze landde op 19 maart, en werd aangeraden tot zelfisolatie. Ze werd pas getest op 31 maart en 3 april, en beide testen waren negatief. Serumanalyses op 10 en 11 april geven IgG antilichamen, en bevestigen een coronabesmetting. Over de hele periode vertoonde ze geen symptomen.

het is niet de eerste keer dat een besmette patient zonder symptomen het startpunt is van een cluster. In mei zorgde een 29-jarige Koreaan voor een cluster in de uitgaansbuurt van Seoel
Citaat:
The 29-year-old man from Yongin, south of Seoul, wasn't aware of his infection status while visiting the clubs last Friday, the authorities said, but started to suffer from a high fever and diarrhea the next day.
https://en.yna.co.kr/view/AEN20200507010500315
deze persoon was dus presymptomatisch op het moment dat hij de cluster startte. Hoe hij zelf besmet werd is niet heel duidelijk,
Citaat:
The authorities believe his case is one of community transmission, as he has no recent history of travel overseas and has had no known contact with any confirmed patient.
en op zijn Koreaans gereageerd, met agressieve contact tracing en testen:
South Korea tests 35,000 people linked to club coronavirus cluster
__________________
Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. - Ben Franklin
“Climate change will manifest as a series of disasters viewed through phones with footage that gets closer and closer to where you live until you're the one filming it.”

Laatst gewijzigd door morte-vivante : 15 juli 2020 om 14:59.
morte-vivante is offline   Met citaat antwoorden