(From another "discussion" with this Panta Rhei idiot )
"Panta Rhei", the Greco-Armenian hate propaganda poster financed by EU funds Greece and S.Cyprus get, wrote
>
> LMAO! The Armeninan Genocide is well documented and corroborated by eminent
> historians and scholars world wide!
There was no genocide, only a deportation of Armenians who
collaborated with the Russian and French enemy in WWI. PERIOD!
There was no Armenian genocide! It's all propaganda!
It was the Armenians who committed genocide crimes against
Turks and others by ethnically cleansing the region for their
promised independent "Greater Armenia", promised mainly by France and Russia.
In 1915 during WWI we Turks have deported them from the region
since they were collaborating with the Russian enemy.
Read these books to learn the truth:
Popular books by historians and researchers on the so called "Armenian Genocide":
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Guenter Lewy "The Armenian Massacres in Ottoman Turkey - A Disputed Genocide"
Hardcover: 416 pages
Publisher: University of Utah Press; New edition (November 21, 2005)
Language: English
ISBN: 0874808499
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/cus...ws/0874808499/
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Samuel A. Weems "Armenia - Secrets of a 'Christian' Terrorist State"
Hardcover: 370 pages
Publisher: St. John's Press (June 2002)
Language: English
ISBN: 0971921237
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/cus...ws/0971921237/
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Justin McCarthy "Death and Exile: The Ethnic Cleansing of Ottoman Muslims, 1821-1922",
Hardcover: 368 pages
Publisher: Darwin Press, Incorporated (March 1996)
Language: English
ISBN: 0878500944
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/cus...ews/0878500944
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Justin McCarthy "The Ottoman Peoples and the End of Empire (Historical Endings)",
Paperback: 248 pages
Publisher: A Hodder Arnold Publication (April 1, 2001)
Language: English
ISBN: 0340706570
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/cus...ews/0340706570
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Justin McCarthy "The Ottoman Turks: An Introductory History to 1923"
Paperback: 424 pages
Publisher: Longman (March 4, 1997)
Language: English
ISBN: 0582256550
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/cus...ews/0582256550
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Kamuran Gurun "The Armenian File: The Myth of Innocence Exposed"
Hardcover: 323 pages
Publisher: Palgrave Macmillan (January 1986)
Language: English
ISBN: 0312049404
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/cus...ews/0312049404
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See also
"Tall Armenian Tale - The Other Side Of The Falsified Genocide"
Language: English
http://www.tallarmeniantale.com/
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Even the educated Armenians don't buy the Genocide tale, see here:
http://www.diplomaticobserver.com/news_read.asp?id=1387
"...
The well-known Armenian author Levon Panos Dabagyan said as follows:
"In 1915 genocide was not committed in Ottoman Empire.
Those who claimed that genocide was committed must
learn history much better.
Armenian issue is very important fort he West Because
it has been used against Turkey. At that time people was
exiled but not massacred. These operations must be
regarded as issues originating from political aims and
Kaiser's Germany lied behind these issues".
According to Dabagyan, Armenians and Turks had lived together
within the framework of good neighborhood for centuries until
these events. But in 1915 Armenians who revolted in eastern Turkey were exiled.
Armenian author said that "Russian and the West's empty promises
led Armenians to uprising. In fact Turks always saw us to be close
to themselves. Thus they divided Armenians internally and forced
them in opposition against Turks. We must understand this.
We must stop things like "you massacred me, I massacred you"
and must establish normal relations with Turkey".
....
"
Even the first prime minister (!) of the Armenian state founded
in July 1918 says that there was no genocide in 1915 but war.
Hovannes Katchaznouni was in power as the head of
government until August 1919, for thirteen months.
The Armenian 'genocide industry' tries hard to hide this and similar historical facts...
Hear (read) it even from the mouth of Hovhannes Katchaznouni,
the first Prime Minister of the Independent Armenian Republic,
who too said that there was no Armenian genocide!
For details see:
http://www.tallarmeniantale.com/1923...sto-record.htm
http://www.tallarmeniantale.com/1923...FULLrecord.htm
But it was the Armenians who committed real genocide against
the Turks and Azeris in 1914-1915 and later again in 1917-1920,
and in 1992 (!) again.
Here's the real genocide committed by the Armenians
in the year 1992, yes, just 14 years ago! :
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Khojaly_massacre
"The Khojaly Massacre was the killing of a large number
of ethnic Azerbaijani civilians in the town of Khojaly on
25 February 1992 during the Nagorno-Karabakh War.
According to the Azerbaijani side, as well as Memorial
Human Rights Center, Human Rights Watch and other
international observers, the massacre was committed
by the ethnic Armenian armed forces, reportedly with
help of the Russian 366th Motor Rifle Regiment.
The official death toll provided by Azerbaijani authorities
is 613 civilians, of them 106 women and 83 children.
....
International reaction
The Khojaly Massacre was described by Human Rights Watch
as "the largest massacre to date in the conflict" over Nagorno-Karabakh.
Memorial, the Moscow-based human rights group, stated in their report
that the mass killing of civilians in Khojaly could not be justified under
any circumstances and that actions of Armenian militants were in
gross violation of a number of basic international human rights conventions.
Estimating the number of the civilians killed in the massacre,
Human Rights Watch stated that "there are no exact figures for
the number of Azeri civilians killed because Karabakh Armenian
forces gained control of the area after the massacre". A 1993 report by
Human Rights Watch put the number of deaths at least 161, although later
reports state the number of deaths as at least 200. According to Human
Rights Watch, "while it is widely accepted that 200 Azeris were murdered,
as many as 500-1,000 may have died".
In Written Declaration No. 324, members of the PACE from Albania,
Azerbaijan, Turkey and the United Kingdom, along with individual members
from Bulgaria, Luxembourg, Macedonia and Norway stated that
"On 26 February 1992, Armenians massacred the whole population
of Khodjaly and fully destroyed the city", and called on the Assembly
to recognize the massacre in Khojaly as part of "genocide perpetrated
by Armenians against the Azerbaijani population".
"
In depth:
http://www.karabakh.gen.az/contents.php?cid=303
So, then why are _you_ still lying, you Armenian P.O.S.?!
> about your falsifications ("Turkish history" versions)
Of which "falsification" do you speak, idiot?
We are not Armenians, who fabricate, doctor, and manipulate the facts,
as was proved many times.
We are proud of our history, which one can say neither of the Armenians
nor the Greeks: the Armenians fought the Turks from inside out,
and the Greeks by invading Turkey in a proxy war.
Both doing this for their French, Biritish and Russian masters who promised
them land on Turkish soil (see Treaty of Sevres, which never took place,
and see the Sykes-Picot Agreement of 1916 (and later extensions) which
was a secret understanding between the governments of Britain and
France defining their respective spheres of post-World War I influence
and control in the Middle East).
> about your unreliability, your breaking of treaties, etc!
Which of the treaties do you mean, idiot?
> It's not just me who claims that you Turks got no credibility.
Explain what you mean.
You are just unlucky because you have hard time to bring us to the knees.
You never will succeed, idiot!
> And the EU is just about to learn about your character, too! <BG>
Explain what you mean.
Our character is glass clear, but I'm not sure one can say
the same of France, Austria and South Cyprus too...
And: You are just a P.O.S. Armenian who can only post propaganda and hate speech to the net.
Snippets of messages of this Armenian low-life Panta Rhei,
who endlessly posts Anti-Turkish hate propaganda to the net,
that show how "educated", how "european", how racistic, and
how dumb he is:
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* THE PERSONALITY OF "PANTA RHEI", THE OBSCENE GRECO-ARMENIAN USENET TROLL *
* Vol. 1 *
* Compiled by "Baba", 10/23/2006 *
* *
* FYI: Panta Rhei is a racist and serial Turk hater! *
* He gets paid for this propaganda from EU funds Greece gets from the EU for development.... *
* The following snippets are from his recent Usenet postings. *
* You can find them also in the Usenet archives at *
*
http://groups.google.com/group/soc.c...h&q=Panta+Rhei
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Aww, the little idiot has to suck again on his pacifiers, some
dumb-ass links, to make himself feel just a BIT better in his
miserable "life"! LMAO!
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As they say: a picture is worth more than a thousand words, asshole
Sean Ruttledge! So remember, instead of sick hallucinations, as in your
case, we got many pictures of you and your weird-looking asshole family!
The link will be posted probably soon again on Usenet! LMAO!
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Yeah, asshole Sean Ruttledge, tell him what you know! You are the
expert in pounds! You haven't got any, but you get constantly pounded
here by everyone! LMAO!
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You do come across as a defeated and deranged sicko who has lost
his mind completely after being bitchslapped senseless by most
people on Usenet over the last seven years!
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Aww, poor, bitchslapped Sean Ruttledge has to adopt the name of his MASTER
Panta Rhei again who beats the shit out of him EVERY DAY.
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BTW, asshole Sean Ruttledge: you CAN'T win that game!
You are tooo dumb! LMAO!
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Living the life of a ridiculed, bitchslapped loony on usenet helps Beanie
Tinfoil forget the failures in his life.
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No Asian monkey language in European newsgroups, please! Thank you, monkey!
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Then learn some English first, before you post to English speaking forums,
you backward, primitive Turkish pig! You are so abysmally stupid, some of
your compatriots in your stinking Turkish newsgroup start out looking
almost "intelligent", suddenly! LMAO!
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You assume he doesn't know it, you primitive dimwit? LMAO!
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Just so that everyone knows: the creep above is simply a Turk!
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Where is your voice against the injustices in your OWN country,
you Turkish Nazi pig?
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Thank you for exposing Turkish retardation so competently on Usenet,
abysmally stupid Blahblah! LOL
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Never mind, that problem of discerning is quite natural for an asshole like
you, asshole Sean Ruttledge, who managed to get a special place on Usenet
because of his constantly abused anus!
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The only thing you can do, lobotomized Blahblah, is make an ass of yourself
constantly on Usenet!
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But you ARE a Turk, and we do call you Blablah!
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Yeah, well said, stupid cow! <pat> <pat>
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You must be either a cow or a Turk! Hard to tell! LMAO!
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Folks, check the blooming psychosis of asshole Sean Ruttledge:
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Talking about yourself again, eh, you miserable sicko! LMAO!
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seems we have to declare this lobotomized creep Blablah as the new
official village idiot in these groups! LMAO!
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Let's just wait and see how this nation of idiots will look in maybe
10 or 20 years, forever outside of the EU, with a flourishing, oil-rich
Kurdistan as a new neigbour, with Western folks completely fed up with
retrograde, hoodlum, fascist Turkey! <G>
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*LOL*! Thank you for exposing your Turkish retardation so willfully in:
soc.culture.europe, soc.culture.british and soc.culture.usa!
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This is not fascist Turkey here where you can try to shut up people, you
primitive Turkish Nazi pig! You Turkish lowlives are still in need of
eductation from the West! <BG>
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Tell us more about all the things you "know", you sick, depraved, delirious
clown! Will contribute to everyone's entertainment here! LOL
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Yeah, slimy choro-sick, "refrain" from opening your stupid gab in the
future. It's the best thing for you to do, if you don't want to continue to
make a complete ass of yourself! <G>
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choro-sick, the Turkish perverted swine, is an insult to HUMANITY!!! If you
are unable to see that, it shows you can only be another Turk with a
similarly depraved mind-set like him.
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Still struggling with your inability to say something intelligent,
psychopath?
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As you are clearly lobotomized, you will never be able to understand the
difference!
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Try to get a brain!
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Oooh.... the dumb Turk gives an example of his "Turkish wit" again! Off
with you to alt.hopelessbores!
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Yeah, I find that too, Blablah! I'm for anything that makes Turkey appear
as the world's laughing stock! LOL
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Who cares what a depraved piece of shit like you really thinks! It's
obvious for most educated people what you are! Your lengthy statements
about yourself and what you "think" only confirm that you are just a
blathering piece of Turkish shit!
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What you can't see, as you are a lobotomized stupid cunt, is that people
SEE what depraved, backward Turks are hanging out in these groups. It's all
about the victory of Western values over fascist retards of your sort!
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PROJECTION again, asshole Sean Ruttledge!!!! ;-) It's obvious, YOU need a
lot of professional help!!!! We also know, you can't afford it!!!!!
Buahahahaaaaaaa....!
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<BG> Yeah, just say what you mean, dumb cow!!! LMAO!
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Is that storm getting there perhaps from your stinking place, you
hilarious, pathetic dumb troll? Was that what you were implying, you
pathetic, abused keyboard rambo? LMAO!
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Seems, you found finally someone to actually "talk" to, asshole Sean
Ruttledge! But look: it's just another asshole, it's Blahblah!! LMAO!
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All the more fun for me to keep mistreating you, asshole Sean Ruttledge,
till I manage, AGAIN, to make you peep out from behind your killfile for a
short time, full of anguish and blind, impotent rage and with your
predictable psychotic fits! HAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAA.....!!!! You are and will
always simply be: my PUNCHING BAG! LOL!!!
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<BG> You don't mind making a complete ass of yourself, eh, dumb Blahblah!
LMAO! Seems to be your special Turkish "talent"! Hahahaaaaa....
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I admit, I misuse backward, dumb, primitive and fascist idiots of your sort
just for my personal entertainment on Usenet! There is not much you can do
about it, except stop posting with your sort of primitive mind on Usenet!
LMAO!
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And you, did you CHOOSE to be born an asshole, aashole Sean Ruttledge? I
bet you did! Buahahahaaaaaa..... but you are free to correct me, if you
didn't! LMAO!
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Listen, stupid! We can't here explain everything to a subnormal idiot like
you, every time you don't understand something with your limited Turkish
mind, you backward creep! <G>
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Buahahaaaa.... those dumb Turks with computers sure know how to become the
laughing stock quickly in every group on Usenet with their abysmal
stupidity! LOL! Keep proving what "mental" talents you Turks got, dumb
Blahblah! LMAO!
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King Seanie, MASTER of all grik slaves, a full-blown psychopath, as you can see
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<BG> You mean, being polite to a primitive, backward, fascist yokel, such
as you are? Never heard about that! LMAO!
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<BG> Keep guessing, little idiot!
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<BG> Tell us something about the "massive strap-on" that you prefer for
your huge asshole, asshole Sean Ruttledge!! LMAO!
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Still fighting with your inability to say something intelligent, asshole
Sean Ruttledge? LMAO!
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When's your next appointment with your psychiatrist, asshole Sean
Ruttledge? You can't even afford one? Figures! LMAO!
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Yeah, right on, little Turkish nazi pig! Keep crossposting your Turkish
mind to soc.culture.europe! We really ALL want to see rotten Turkey's
cheeky EU bid spoiled! Hahahahaaaaaa.....!
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What's there you don't understand, asshole Sean Ruttledge? "We all", means
we, the civilized folks, in contrast to you, the backward, primitive,
fascist Nazi types (or simply Turks)! <G>
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I doubt that a demented Turkish nazi swine like you is able to see that.
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Are you wearing make up when your fat, ugly Turkish wife does you with her
"massive strap-on", asshole Sean Ruttledge? LOL
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Of course you don't, you lobotomized idiot! Hahahaaaaaaa....
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LOL! You think the Dutch aren't smart enough to have realized by now that
you are nothing but a sick asshole, asshole Sean Ruttledge? You really
think so? LMAO! Priceless!!!
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LMAO! More and more I get the impression you get some sick kick out of
presenting yourself, in as many newsgroups as possible, as the officially
acknowledged asshole of Usenet, asshole Sean Ruttledge, you masochistic,
dumb bitch! Buahahahaaaaaaaa...
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You consider yourself to be the concept of free speech, you abused, dumb,
little Turkish nazi pig? LMAO!
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LOL The poor dolt is probably even proud of being the stupid animal that he is!
Hahahahaaaaaa....!
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Aww! Dumb Blahblah, the retarded, fascist Turk is unable to understand! LOL
Poor, dumb, primitive, fascist Turks can't understand what civilization
really means! LOL
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And yes! alt.asshole.sean-ruttledge, your newsgroup under your REAL name
EXISTS! LOL But please keep denying, twisting and hoping it's not there!
Will add to our entertainment, you struggling little idiot! LMAO!
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Yeah, complain, you sad psycho, your full name on Usenet being: asshole
Sean Ruttledge with his own asshole group under his REAL name! LMAO!
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How's life outside Usenet? You got no idea what I'm talking about, you dumb
asshole? LMAO!
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Think about it! But take a painkiller first, asshole Sean Ruttledge! <BG>
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Hahahaaaaaaa..... asshole Sean Ruttledge turned completely paranoic lately!
No surprise what with all the bitchslapping he's receiving every day from
all sides! LOL
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BUAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAA..... this is priceless: this abused, dumb troll is
still completely UNABLE to accept the existence of his own asshole group
under his REAL name! Well, it IS a shame, too, isn't it, bleeding Sean
Ruttledge! Hahahaaa...
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But, everyone on Usenet can see that you are a swine, choro-sick! And you
prove it with every second post of yours, too! <VBG>
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Buahahahaaaaaaaa...... yes, you REALLY are an asshole, Sean Ruttledge!
And.... you are not ashamed of it, too, it seems! Muahahaaaaaaa....
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Yes, the RICH EU! So why would the Third World Turks want to join the EU?
<BG> Just to keep cleaning the Europeans' toilets, perhaps? LMAO! BTW, one
major reason for not letting rotten Turkey in the EU, is its immense
POVERTY! Sorry, you creeps are just too poor to be allowed to join! What a
cruel world! LOL!
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(to be continued :-)
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Sorry, stupid cow, I never click on any links some official asshole of
Usenet provides. But looks like the link might reflect some of your
"intelligence", moo cow! Buahahahaaaaaaa....
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<BG> Anytime, stupid cow! <pat> <pat>
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Yeah, seems someone KNOWS how to deal with those three retarded Turkish
trolls on Usenet: Sean Ruttledge, the subnormal psychopath, who managed to
get his own asshole group dedicated to him under his REAL name, Blahblah,
the lobotomized Turk and primitive hoodlum, and slimy choro-sick, the
notorious perverted, abnormal Turkish swine! LOL
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Tell us more about all the things you "know", you sick, depraved, delirious
clown! Will contribute to everyone's entertainment here! LOL
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<BG> You a Turk, right? Buahahaaaaaaaa..... Dumb Turks with computers!
Hahahaaaaa....
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<BG> Come on, do your moo trick again, Turkish retard! It's the only time
when you manage to sound a bit "intelligent"! LMAO!
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<BG> Folks, check, above, two Turks engaging in a conversation a la Turca!
LMAO! No wonder these creeps are despised by most people that got to know
them!
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Goes to show that an idiot like you shouldn't start wondering in the first
place! If one sees YOUR posts one KNOWS that stupidity has no limits,
Blahblah, dumb Turk!
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<BG> The dumb Re'vr''nerd feels the need to expose his widely known
retardation again!
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<BG> Trying hard to come across as the retard that you are, dumb
Re'vr''nerd?
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<BG> Seems, you still aren't quite convinced that you are already widely
known as a retard on Usenet, dumb Rev'nerd! Just keep up your effort of
convincing everyone of your retardation! We will be watching your efforts
in that regard! LMAO!
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<BG> Keep up your effort, dumb Re'vr'nerd! LMAO!
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Oh, you do NOT consider yourself to be a psychopath, asshole Sean
Ruttledge? LMAO! So you are getting wrongly abused all the time?
Buahahaaaaaaa....!!
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Yeah, of course, no other two idiots known all over the place like the two
of you and obviously vying for the number one position as Usenet's village
idiot! LMAO!
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Still trying hard to spread the old "news" about you retardation, dumb
Rev'r'nerd? Sure is funny as hell to see you putting in so much effort!
LMAO!
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(to be continued of course :-)