land of the free?? a joke

LEFTeau · 21 maart 2003, 12:34

Hundreds arrested in anti-war protests in US cities
Fri Mar 21, 2:02 AM ET

NEW YORK (AFP) - The anti-war movement took to the streets for demonstrations and civil disobedience campaigns across the United States, resulting in hundreds of arrests including more than 1,300 in one city alone.

Police in the city of San Francisco on Thursday arrested more than 1,300 anti-war protesters during a massive civil disobedience campaign, the sheriff's department said.

The arrests began with the shifting series of protests early in the morning and were continuing into the evening as US troops moved into Iraq (news - web sites).

"More than 1,300 people have been arrested so far and we expect that number to rise considerably during the evening," San Francisco Sheriff's Department spokeswoman Eileen Hirst told AFP.

The civil disobedience campaign coincided with hundreds of other protests around the country involving tens of thousands of Americans, as the war in Iraq got underway.

In Boston up to 4,000 protesters, including students and workers, marched through the city and temporarily closed the Massachusetts Avenue bridge over the Charles River.

"We do not support this war. We do not believe that the voice of the people has been heard in making the decision to go to war, and we just want to make sure that that's heard," said student organizer Christine Ortiz.

At certain points, the marchers were heckled by pedestrians who shouted "Support our troops."

In New York's Times Square, where crowds gathered Wednesday evening to watch President George W. Bush (news - web sites) announce the start of the invasion of Iraq on giant TV screens, hundreds turned out for a rally in torrential rain.

The demonstration was expected to continue throughout the evening, with a mass protest march through Manhattan planned for Saturday.

In San Francisco, at least 500 anti-war activists were arrested as they blocked streets and struggled with police in a civil disobedience campaign protesting the US invasion of Iraq.

Thousands of roving protesters blocked intersections across the city centre and bound themselves together in a bid to resist arrest on the first day of the US-led war to oust Iraqi leader Saddam Hussein (news - web sites), witnesses said.

They chanted "Stop the bombing" and "No war for oil," as they lay down in intersections, tied themselves to poles or joined arms through metal pipes, forcing police to use chain saws to separate them.

At the University of California, Berkeley, 119 students were arrested after around 2,000 protested the conflict. Some 300 students took over a campus building, KCBS radio said.

Protests, ranging from simple rallies to mass candlelight vigils, were also planned for Los Angeles, Miami, Dallas and San Juan, Puerto Rico.

And about 4,000 peace activists rallied in Chicago late Thursday for one of the largest anti-war demonstrations seen in this Midwestern city to date.

Chanting "Drop Bush not bombs," they packed a downtown plaza and then marched along a lakeshore highway, making stretches of one of the city's main arteries impassable to traffic.

Many said they felt compelled to come out even though hostilities had started because they felt it was important to show there is still strong domestic opposition to the US-led war on Iraq.

"At this point in the game, I think I'm here to vent my frustration," said Brian Nigbor, a 45-year-old entrepreneur. "I think the world needs to know that not everybody supports Bush."

"Bush may not consider us important enough to pay attention to, but the rest of the world will," said 27-year-old Jennifer Abu-Awad who said she wanted her two children and Iraqi children to be allowed to grow up in a peaceful world.

Karin Sconzert, a 37-year-old college lecturer, said she was motivated in part by her anger at what she saw as the hypocrisy of the Bush administration.

In Philadelphia, scores of arrests were made as protesters blocked entrances to the downtown federal building downtown, snarling traffic.

On Wednesday, United for Peace and Justice, the coalition of pacifist groups responsible for mass protests in major US cities one month ago, issued a general appeal for people to voice their opposition to the war.

"With the war now having begun, we call on you to join with us and other groups around the country in visible and passionate protest," the coalition said in a statement posted on its website.

"However you choose to express your opposition to war -- from solemn vigils to loud marches to nonviolent direct action -- get out on the streets immediately and join with millions around the world in demanding an end to the bloodshed."

And peace group Act Now to Stop War and End Racism (ANSWER) called in a statement for an "emergency response of protests and walkouts," as it announced the start of a "terrorist assault" on Iraq by the Bush administration.

In Washington DC, police used pepper spray to disperse several hundred demonstrators who managed to shut down a bridge and disrupt traffic, while 50 more protesters on bicycles -- carrying signs that read "Bikes not Bombs" -- moved through the downtown area.

Calle · 21 maart 2003, 14:19

Interessant.

In jouw artikel komt nergens de schade voor die die "peacefull protesters" hebben berokkend.

Ramen inslagen en dergelijke , daar mag je voor gearresteerd worden vind ik.

Pelgrim · 21 maart 2003, 17:33

Bush bombardeerd notabene hele gebouwen plat! Dat mag wel?

datri · 21 maart 2003, 17:38

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Oorspronkelijk geplaatst door Calle

Interessant.

In jouw artikel komt nergens de schade voor die die "peacefull protesters" hebben berokkend.

Ramen inslagen en dergelijke , daar mag je voor gearresteerd worden vind ik.

Calle toch, dat zijn toch uitzonderingen en enkelingen die dit doen

Deze hebben zelfs nooit iets met de echte manifestatie te maken......

TomB · 21 maart 2003, 20:41

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Land of the free?? a joke

Uw artikel beschrijft hoe op verschijdene plaatsen in de Verenigde Staten massaal en spontaan betoogd werd tegen deze oorlog. De mensen waren dus vrij hun mening te uiten.

Dat er op spontaan ontstane betogingen ook mensen opgepakt werden omwille van ongeregeldheden, doet niets af aan het feit dat die mensen vrije meningsuiting genoten.

Met andere woorden, net als in uw andere droomwereldartikels, probeert u de waarheid te verdraaien naargelang uw opinie. U hebt een verkeerd wereldbeeld als u denkt dat de Verenigde Staten Orweliaanse toestanden toelaat.

democratsteve · 22 maart 2003, 00:19

Citaat:

Oorspronkelijk geplaatst door TomB

Citaat:

Oorspronkelijk geplaatst door LEFTeau

Land of the free?? a joke

Uw artikel beschrijft hoe op verschijdene plaatsen in de Verenigde Staten massaal en spontaan betoogd werd tegen deze oorlog. De mensen waren dus vrij hun mening te uiten.

Dat er op spontaan ontstane betogingen ook mensen opgepakt werden omwille van ongeregeldheden, doet niets af aan het feit dat die mensen vrije meningsuiting genoten.

Met andere woorden, net als in uw andere droomwereldartikels, probeert u de waarheid te verdraaien naargelang uw opinie. U hebt een verkeerd wereldbeeld als u denkt dat de Verenigde Staten Orweliaanse toestanden toelaat.

U zegt het correct. Ze "genoten" hun vrije meningsuiting. En nu zitten ze vast.

Pelgrim · 22 maart 2003, 08:37

De VS media moeten niet onder doen voor de Belgische media wat betreft dissidente stemmen cordonsaniteren: een redelijk aantal muzikanten die zich tegen de oorlog uitspreken worden nu geboycot op de radio en tvzenders.

21 maart 2003, 12:34	#1
LEFTeau Partijlid Geregistreerd: 20 februari 2003 Locatie: Babylon Berichten: 216	Hundreds arrested in anti-war protests in US cities Fri Mar 21, 2:02 AM ET NEW YORK (AFP) - The anti-war movement took to the streets for demonstrations and civil disobedience campaigns across the United States, resulting in hundreds of arrests including more than 1,300 in one city alone. Police in the city of San Francisco on Thursday arrested more than 1,300 anti-war protesters during a massive civil disobedience campaign, the sheriff's department said. The arrests began with the shifting series of protests early in the morning and were continuing into the evening as US troops moved into Iraq (news - web sites). "More than 1,300 people have been arrested so far and we expect that number to rise considerably during the evening," San Francisco Sheriff's Department spokeswoman Eileen Hirst told AFP. The civil disobedience campaign coincided with hundreds of other protests around the country involving tens of thousands of Americans, as the war in Iraq got underway. In Boston up to 4,000 protesters, including students and workers, marched through the city and temporarily closed the Massachusetts Avenue bridge over the Charles River. "We do not support this war. We do not believe that the voice of the people has been heard in making the decision to go to war, and we just want to make sure that that's heard," said student organizer Christine Ortiz. At certain points, the marchers were heckled by pedestrians who shouted "Support our troops." In New York's Times Square, where crowds gathered Wednesday evening to watch President George W. Bush (news - web sites) announce the start of the invasion of Iraq on giant TV screens, hundreds turned out for a rally in torrential rain. The demonstration was expected to continue throughout the evening, with a mass protest march through Manhattan planned for Saturday. In San Francisco, at least 500 anti-war activists were arrested as they blocked streets and struggled with police in a civil disobedience campaign protesting the US invasion of Iraq. Thousands of roving protesters blocked intersections across the city centre and bound themselves together in a bid to resist arrest on the first day of the US-led war to oust Iraqi leader Saddam Hussein (news - web sites), witnesses said. They chanted "Stop the bombing" and "No war for oil," as they lay down in intersections, tied themselves to poles or joined arms through metal pipes, forcing police to use chain saws to separate them. At the University of California, Berkeley, 119 students were arrested after around 2,000 protested the conflict. Some 300 students took over a campus building, KCBS radio said. Protests, ranging from simple rallies to mass candlelight vigils, were also planned for Los Angeles, Miami, Dallas and San Juan, Puerto Rico. And about 4,000 peace activists rallied in Chicago late Thursday for one of the largest anti-war demonstrations seen in this Midwestern city to date. Chanting "Drop Bush not bombs," they packed a downtown plaza and then marched along a lakeshore highway, making stretches of one of the city's main arteries impassable to traffic. Many said they felt compelled to come out even though hostilities had started because they felt it was important to show there is still strong domestic opposition to the US-led war on Iraq. "At this point in the game, I think I'm here to vent my frustration," said Brian Nigbor, a 45-year-old entrepreneur. "I think the world needs to know that not everybody supports Bush." "Bush may not consider us important enough to pay attention to, but the rest of the world will," said 27-year-old Jennifer Abu-Awad who said she wanted her two children and Iraqi children to be allowed to grow up in a peaceful world. Karin Sconzert, a 37-year-old college lecturer, said she was motivated in part by her anger at what she saw as the hypocrisy of the Bush administration. In Philadelphia, scores of arrests were made as protesters blocked entrances to the downtown federal building downtown, snarling traffic. On Wednesday, United for Peace and Justice, the coalition of pacifist groups responsible for mass protests in major US cities one month ago, issued a general appeal for people to voice their opposition to the war. "With the war now having begun, we call on you to join with us and other groups around the country in visible and passionate protest," the coalition said in a statement posted on its website. "However you choose to express your opposition to war -- from solemn vigils to loud marches to nonviolent direct action -- get out on the streets immediately and join with millions around the world in demanding an end to the bloodshed." And peace group Act Now to Stop War and End Racism (ANSWER) called in a statement for an "emergency response of protests and walkouts," as it announced the start of a "terrorist assault" on Iraq by the Bush administration. In Washington DC, police used pepper spray to disperse several hundred demonstrators who managed to shut down a bridge and disrupt traffic, while 50 more protesters on bicycles -- carrying signs that read "Bikes not Bombs" -- moved through the downtown area. __________________ "War doesn't determine who is right, it determines who is left" this is war = http://www.robert-fisk.com/iraqwarvictims_mar2003.htm

21 maart 2003, 17:33	#3
Pelgrim Secretaris-Generaal VN Geregistreerd: 30 april 2002 Locatie: Bankrijk Berichten: 49.945	Bush bombardeerd notabene hele gebouwen plat! Dat mag wel? __________________ pri via opinio, ne prelegu. pri alies opinioj, nepre legu!

22 maart 2003, 08:37	#7
Pelgrim Secretaris-Generaal VN Geregistreerd: 30 april 2002 Locatie: Bankrijk Berichten: 49.945	De VS media moeten niet onder doen voor de Belgische media wat betreft dissidente stemmen cordonsaniteren: een redelijk aantal muzikanten die zich tegen de oorlog uitspreken worden nu geboycot op de radio en tvzenders. __________________ pri via opinio, ne prelegu. pri alies opinioj, nepre legu!

21 maart 2003, 14:19	#2
Calle Parlementslid Geregistreerd: 17 december 2002 Berichten: 1.942	Interessant. In jouw artikel komt nergens de schade voor die die "peacefull protesters" hebben berokkend. Ramen inslagen en dergelijke , daar mag je voor gearresteerd worden vind ik.