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Oud 10 juni 2007, 08:03   #3501
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10 maart 2005

ja ik weet het, maar wilde hem toch hier plaatsen
kwam hem gisteren tegen.


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Heb jij ooit een flightsim gebouwd, heb je er al eens in gezeten en heb je er al eens uitleg over gehad? Ik denk het niet aan uw gezijk te horen, beste.
Ofwel zijn de mensen van KLM zeveraars, dat kan ook natuurlijk.
Een flightsim is ook maar gebouwd op basis van een meerassige servo-sturing en laat ik daar nu net vrij onderlegd in zijn als (ex) ontwerp-ingenieur automatisering.
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Ten derde, zou ik graag willen weten aan welke universiteit uw collega zijn opleiding heeft voltooid. Ik heb alvast nog nooit gehoord van een opleiding Burgerlijk Ingenieur Natuurkunde en vond ook nergens iets over zulk een opleiding op de website van de KUL :
Maar enfin.
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Oud 12 juni 2007, 02:11   #3504
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En daar zijn ze nog steeds bezig
Er zijn 2 feiten omtrent 9/11:

- De aanslagen hebben werkelijk plaats gevonden.
- Een stap verder naar NWO

En de rest = theorieën (door wie en hoe en waarom ... etc)

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Hillarisch ... maar tegelijkertijd een grote schande ...

Chaser - 9/11 Quiz

kapot gelachen man maar bedankt he

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9/11 campaigners march in Ipswich

CONSPIRACY theorists marched through Ipswich town centre today campaigning for an investigation into the 9/11 terror attacks.

Around 15 people from the Ipswich Truth Campaign took part in the march where they denounced the official story of the 2001 atrocity as a “pack of lies”.

The event was also designed to raise awareness of a talk being given in Ipswich by William Rodriguez, a janitor working at the World Trade Centre on September 11 who was later decorated for his heroism in rescuing survivors.

Mr Rodriguez claims he heard an explosion prior to the plane striking the North Tower and believes it was in fact the US government which was behind the attacks.

Visit www.eveningstar.co.uk for video footage of an interview with event organiser Mark Elmy.
http://www.eveningstar.co.uk/content...A53%3A53%3A273

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US officials can be sued in 9/11 case

NEW YORK: A Pakistani man who says he was abused in detention after the September 11 attacks can name the FBI director and a former US attorney general in his lawsuit against the government, an appeals court ruled on Thursday.
Javaid Iqbal, a Muslim, was held for more than a year at a Brooklyn detention center after the September 11 attacks. He, along with hundreds of Muslims and Arabs sued the US government, claiming they were abused and held for no legitimate reason.
Iqbal says he was subjected to repeated strip searches, beaten, dragged across the floor and that the lights in his cell were kept on 24 hours a day.
The defendants, including FBI Director Robert Mueller and former Attorney General John Ashcroft, had appealed a lower court decision that allowed Iqbal’s lawyers to seek information on what the officials knew about the abuse.
As part of their efforts to dismiss the case, lawyers for Mueller and Ashcroft argued the officials could not be held personally accountable, but the 2nd US Circuit Court of Appeals disagreed and ruled Ibqal’s suit could go forward.
It was “plausible” that Ashcroft and Mueller and other senior Justice Department officials “would be aware of policies concerning the detention of those arrested by federal officers in the New York City area in the aftermath of 9/11”, the appeals panel said.
The panel also disagreed with lawyers for Mueller and Ashcroft who argued their actions were reasonable “in the post-9/11 context” and that Iqbal received proper treatment.
The court said while they recognised “the gravity of the situation that confronted investigative officials of the United States as a consequence of the 9/11 attack”, Iqbal still had the right to not be harshly treated or discriminated against.
“The exigent circumstances of the post-9/11 context do not diminish the plaintiff’s right not to be needlessly harassed and mistreated in the confines of a prison cell by repeated strip and body-cavity searches,” the court said.
Iqbal said he lost nearly 18kg and suffered depression after his detention. Shortly after his release in 2003, he pleaded guilty to having false Social Security papers and writing bad checks and served time in prison before being deported.
The panel did not rule whether there was any truth to Iqbal’s claim that there was no evidence connecting him to terrorism.
US authorities detained 762 non-citizens — almost all Muslims or Arabs — in the weeks after the attacks.
The US government in February paid $300,000 to settle with Iqbal’s co-plaintiff and fellow detainee Ehab Elmaghraby, an Egyptian, although it did not admit wrong-doing.–Reuters
Ex-KKK man convicted for 1964 murders
WASHINGTON: A former Ku Klux Klan (KKK) member was found guilty on Thursday of kidnapping and conspiracy in the 1964 murder of two black men in Mississippi, the Department of Justice announced.
Former policeman James Ford Seale, 71, was convicted by a federal jury in Jackson, Mississippi for his role in the kidnapping, beating and eventual slaying of rights activists Henry Dee and Charlie Moore at the height of racial tensions in the US south.
In an attempt to pry information from the two 19-year-old civil rights activists about weapons smuggling by area blacks, Seal, together with fellow members of the white supremacist Klan, beat them and then lashed them to an engine and a piece of rail and threw them into the Mississippi river.
Their bodies were only recovered months later, badly decomposed.
“Today’s conviction of James Ford Seale brings some long overdue justice to the families of Henry Dee and Charles Moore, who were brutally murdered more than 40 years ago,” said Attorney General Alberto Gonzales in a statement.
“Racially motivated violence — whenever it occurred — will not be tolerated and will be prosecuted to the full extent of the law.
The lack of a resolution of the case and others arising from anti-black violence of the 1960s has been a sore spot among blacks in the area for decades.
Seale was arrested in 1964 but was released as police said they did not have sufficient evidence to prosecute him.
The case was reopened in 2005 following years of lobbying by the brother of one of the victims.
Seale had been believed dead for years until Thomas Moore, 63, tracked him down in southern Mississippi while investigating his brother’s murder.
The court heard comments Seale made in an FBI car following his arrest at the time.
“We know you did it, you know you did it, the Lord above knows you did it,” agent Lenard Wolf told Seale, who, according to the testimony, answered: “Yes, but I’m not going to admit it; you are going to have to prove it.”–AFP
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Senate hearing to examine the federal response to 9-11

By: Senate Committee on Environment and Public Works
Published: Jun 16, 2007 at 08:27

Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton today announced the witness list for the hearing of the Senate Committee on Environment and Public Works' Subcommittee on Superfund and Environmental Health into the EPA's response to 9-11 and lessons learned for future emergency preparedness.

The June 20, 2007 hearing, to be held in Washington, DC, will include testimony from U.S. Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) official Susan Bodine, who oversees the EPA's emergency response office. The EPA will testify about their post-9/11 activities, including their two programs to test and clean indoor spaces.

The hearing will also include testimony from James L. Connaughton, Chairman of the President's Council on Environmental Quality (CEQ). After the release of the EPA Inspector General's (IG) report about EPA's 9-11 response in August of 2003, Mr. Connaughton committed the Administration to establish the EPA World Trade Center Expert Technical Review Panel. That panel examined a range of issues relating to contamination of indoor spaces that were raised by the 2003 IG's report.

The Government Accountability Office (GAO) will also testify about investigatory work they have done at the request of Senator Clinton and Congressman Nadler to evaluate the EPA's efforts to test and clean indoor spaces in New York City. (See - http://clinton.senate.gov/news/state...fm?id=254496&&)

The Senate Sub-Committee will also hear from the Agency for Toxic Substances and Disease Registry, the New York Committee for Occupational Safety and Health and a local resident, to examine the federal response to 9-11, including risk communication and EPA programs to test and clean indoor spaces in lower Manhattan. The hearing will also examine lessons learned from 9-11 and federal readiness to respond to releases of hazardous substances in future emergencies.

"We need to examine what went wrong and assess whether the federal government is better prepared to respond to environmental hazards in future disasters," said Senator Clinton. "I also remain concerned about potential indoor contamination resulting from the collapse of the World Trade Center and want to take a close look at the EPA's inadequate program to test and clean residential areas in Manhattan."

For over five years, Clinton and Nadler have staunchly criticized the Administration's misleading public statements about post-9/11 air quality, as well as its continued failure to provide a proper testing and cleaning of indoor spaces contaminated by WTC toxins and its lack of provision of health care for the thousands of people who are ill as a result of exposure to the pollutants.

"New Yorkers were depending on the federal government to provide them with accurate information about the air they were breathing. And they are still depending on the federal government to assess the level of ongoing risk," Senator Clinton said. "I hope this hearing will get to the bottom of what went wrong with the EPA's testing and clean-up plan in response to the post-9/11 environmental disaster, what lessons were learned, and what the EPA intends to do to protect New Yorkers going forward."

Senator Clinton's hearing, along with the companion House Judiciary Subcommittee on the Constitution, Civil Rights and Civil Liberties hearing to be chaired on June 25, 2007 by Congressman Jerrold Nadler (NY-08), represent the first comprehensive Congressional oversight investigations into these environmental matters since the immediate aftermath of the attacks. The two hearings together will take a comprehensive look at the failures of the Federal government in responding to the environmental crisis that resulted from the September 11, 2001 World Trade Center attacks. While in the Majority, Republican House leadership steadfastly refused to hold a single hearing on this matter.

"More than five years after the attacks of September 11, 2001, the EPA's work to address the environmental health consequences of those attacks remains unfinished. Starting from the EPA's assurances immediately following the attacks, and continuing throughout the past five years, the EPA's response to September 11th has not adequately protected public health and the environment," Senator Clinton said. "There has also been a familiar pattern in which the Agency has sought to downplay the potential risks and convey false assurances regarding World Trade Center contamination, rather than developing a scientifically sound approach to assessing and reducing these risks."

The full panel list is below.

U.S. Senate Committee on Environment and Public Works - Subcommittee on Superfund and Environmental Health Hearing

"EPA's Response to 9-11 and Lessons Learned for Future Emergency Preparedness"

10:00 AM - Wednesday, June 20, 2007

EPW Hearing Room - 406 Dirksen

Panel 1

James L. Connaughton

Chairman

Council on Environmental Quality

Susan Parker Bodine

Assistant Administrator for Solid Waste and Emergency Response

Environmental Protection Agency


Capt. Sven E. Rodenbeck

Agency for Toxic Substances and Disease Registry


John B. Stephenson

Director, Natural Resources & Environment

Government Accountability Office


Panel 2

David M. Newman

New York Committee for Occupational Safety and Health


Nina Lavine

Resident

http://www.yubanet.com/artman/publis...le_59239.shtml

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Michael Moore lijkt te suggeren dat 9/11 wel eens een inside job zou kunnen zijn. Hier enkele uitspraken die hij gisteren gedaan heeft toen hij aangesproken werd:

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"I've had a number of firefighters tell me over the years and since Fahrenheit 9/11 that they heard these explosions-- that they believe there's MUCH more to the story than we've been told. I don't think the official investigations have told us the complete truth-- they haven't even told us half the truth."


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Michael Moore lijkt te suggeren dat 9/11 wel eens een inside job zou kunnen zijn. Hier enkele uitspraken die hij gisteren gedaan heeft toen hij aangesproken werd:



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Mister Moore, why don't you talk about the real issues on 9/11?

It would be un-American.
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Mister Moore, why don't you talk about the real issues on 9/11?

It would be un-American.
Hilarische klassieker van Alex Jones
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Hilarische klassieker van Alex Jones

Moore is ook een illuminati poppetje en komt maar met de halve waarheid.



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Moore is ook een illuminati poppetje en komt maar met de halve waarheid.
Wel..... duuuuuh
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Moore is ook een illuminati poppetje en komt maar met de halve waarheid.



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Maar ontegensprekelijk opent hij een aantal deurtjes ...
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Maar ontegensprekelijk opent hij een aantal deurtjes ...
Moore is een typisch voorbeeld van een "gatekeeper". "Gatekeepers" schermen de meest belangrijke informatie af van het publiek door het als je reinste onzin te bestempelen en slagen daar door hun reputatie als rebel en waarheidszoeker bijzonder goed in.

Die reputatie van revel en waarheidszoeker krijgen ze door een deel van de informatie los te laten, maar door tegelijk de verkeerde schuldigen aan te wijzen. Zo wordt de massa gefocust op bijvoorbeeld republikeinen, democraten, communisten, Joden, Turken, Marokkanen, ... In het geval van Moore wordt de schuld bij de republikeinen gelegd.

Naast het beschermen van de belangrijkste geheimen zorgen ze er dus ook voor dat de bevolking van een land tegen elkaar wordt opgezet terwijl de ware schuldigen (de "NWO") buiten schot blijven.

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Interview met een first responder vanop 9/11, over hoe hij nu enorm met zijn gezondheid sukkelt tengevolge de giftige stofwolken die op 9/11 vrijkwamen, wat de regering verzweeg en nu nog totaal negeert. Ook geeft hij zijn visie op het feit dat hij ervan overtuigt is dat 9/11 een inside job is, met speciale aandacht voor WTC7.

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Hier nog een artikel over de vele ziektes en sterfgevallen als gevolg van de giftige stofwolken bij de 9/11 aanslagen voor de rescue workers:
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Medical Evidence, Political Pressure Keep Mounting, But Sick Ground Zero Workers Face Grim Future
Stephen Smith
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Wednesday June 20, 2007

It has been a cruel year for 5-year-old Tylerann Zadroga, and last week proved especially difficult. At her suburban New Jersey day care center, Tylerann could only watch as the other children made Father's Day cards.
"She's been upset the last few days," said her grandfather, Joseph Zadroga. "She's really been missing him."


Tylerann's dad, James Zadroga died last year at the age of 34. A decorated NYPD detective, the 9/11 rescue worker's death was the first to be directly linked to exposure to the toxic air at ground zero. (Zadroga's wife died of a heart ailment in 2005, leaving the job of raising Tylerann to her grandparents.)
Seventeen months after James Zadroga died of a respiratory disease triggered by World Trade Center toxins, doctors and politicians have gradually awakened to the ballooning health crisis stemming from the worst terrorist attack in U.S. history. The debilitating — and increasingly deadly — illnesses plaguing recovery workers are now well documented.



Of the 70,000 people taking part in Mount Sinai Medical Center's World Trade Center health study, 85 percent are suffering some kind of respiratory problem. Medical experts now say the toxic cloud sparked at ground zero has not only caused severe breathing problems in the short term but also will likely spawn diseases like cancer in the years to come. The mounting medical evidence has put pressure on lawmakers to fund monitoring and treatment for sick responders.
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Interessant artikel :

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Looking for Truth in Credentials: The WTC "Experts"
by KEVIN RYAN
March 8, 2007

When Matthew Rothschild, editor of the online magazine The Progressive, wrote an article called "Enough of the 9/11 Conspiracies, Already", we all knew he was not talking about the conspiracy theory that the US government sells us to justify the expanding 9/11 Wars.[1] To the contrary, in writing that article Mr. Rothschild was selling that same theory himself. What he actually meant was that people should not question the US government's story of terror because credentialed experts have been found to support it. But the fact is that the experts found to support the official conspiracy theory of 9/11 are predominantly those who profit from doing so. That's not to say that all of these people were "part of the conspiracy". But they are, whether consciously or not, a part of the cover-up. And that, of course, is the greater crime.

The Bush Administration employed a number of such credentialed experts to give us multiple explanations for the unprecedented destruction of three tall steel-framed buildings at the World Trade Center (WTC). Unfortunately, all of those explanations have proven to be false, and this fact reminds us that academic credentials don't necessarily make a person more capable of, or more likely to, tell the truth.

Exactly how they could find so many experts on the fire-induced collapse of tall buildings is not immediately clear, considering such an event had never happened before. But it did help that the questions were quickly framed as being solely matters of structural engineering, a sub-field of civil engineering, because structural engineers cannot find work without continual government approvals. A Chemistry laboratory manager like myself can work without permits or licenses, but people can't just go out and build a bridge or a tall building on their own. The extensive paperwork necessary to complete civil engineering projects is obtained by working closely with, and staying on good terms with, local and national authorities. That fact may not be enough to ensure vocal support for the official story of "global collapse", but it has been enough to keep most structural engineers from publicly opposing the intransigent government stance on the WTC events.

From where, then, has the vocal support come within the engineering community? Matthew Rothschild points to some interesting characters when he says that "I made a few calls myself", including to Gene Corley and to Mete Sozen. Additionally, Rothschild says that he consulted "some of the top building design and engineering firms", like Skidmore Owings & Merrill, and Greenhorne & O'Mara. To emphasize just how solid the government's story is, he adds that he "also contacted engineering professors at MIT and other leading universities in the country, and none of them puts any stock in the 9/11 conspiracy theories."

What Mr. Rothschild failed to tell us is that Gene Corley and Mete Sozen not only created the reports that he is defending, but have also, for many years, worked for the US Department of Defense (DOD) through the Blast Mitigation for Structures Program (BMSP). Since 1997, this program has provided the DOD with expertise in explosives, and has been funded at $10 million annually.[2] After 9/11, astronomical increases in DOD funding were likely to have benefited all DOD partners and programs, like DOD's Nunn-Perry award winner, Greenhorne & O'Mara, and those involved with the BMSP. Of course, the DOD was probably already awash in black-budget funds prior to 9/11, as indicated by the missing trillions reported by the DOD on 9/10/01.[3]

Rothschild also failed to let us know that Skidmore Owings & Merrill (SOM), one of his independent engineering firms, is responsible for the architectural design of the new Freedom Tower. SOM gained that contract at the personal insistence of Larry Silverstein, the original owner of WTC 7 and the WTC towers' leaseholder. Mr. Rothschild may also not be aware that William Baker, a top executive at SOM, was involved in several of the official WTC investigations and reports that have been generated. In any case it is clear that the "Freedom Tower" would not be the publicity-rich project it is today if an alternative explanation forced us to rename it the "There Goes Our Freedom Tower".

Getting back to those experts at BMSP, we see that DOD employs a number of consulting firms to help out Corley and Sozen, in what is called the Blast Mitigation Action Group (BMAG), including ARUP, ARA, SAIC, SGH, Thornton-Tomasetti and Weidlinger Associates.[4] It should be noted that most of these firms were major contributors to the various official explanations for collapse of the WTC buildings, as well as being government contractors in fields related to terrorism. Strangely, despite their overwhelming expertise in the use of explosives, none of their explanations for the WTC events had anything to do with explosives.

That's not to say that these characters never deal with explosives, however, as Corley and Sozen were two of the four members of the Oklahoma City (OKC) engineering investigation, along with Paul Mlakar and Charles Thornton. The work they did followed the damage estimates found within the Federal Emergency Management Administration's (FEMA) OKC report, written by Greenhorne & O'Mara. Although none of these credentialed experts even toured the site at OKC, Corley and Sozen were able to produce an engineering report that was a highly questionable extrapolation of minimal evidence, primarily the size of a bomb crater, provided to them by the FBI.[5] Their report was created in support of the "One Guy, One Truck Bomb" political story that directly contradicted testimony given by several leading experts, including USAF General Benton Partin.

After spending 25 years dealing with explosive weaponry, General Partin independently studied the damage done to the Murrah building in the month before the evidence was destroyed, and made several strong statements to members of the US Congress. In July of 1995, General Partin wrote to Senator Trent Lott, stating, "The attached report contains conclusive proof that the bombing of the Aflred P. Murrah Federal Building...was not caused solely by the truck bomb. Evidence shows that the massive destruction was primarily the result of four demolition charges placed at critical structural points at the third floor level." He added "No government law enforcement agency should be permitted to demolish, smash and bury evidence of a...terrorist attack without a thorough examination by an independent, technically competent agency."[6]

When speaking about the unprecedented destruction of evidence, General Partin was referring to the demolition of the Murrah Building by Mark Loizeaux's company, just five days after Partin made his strong statements directly to the US Congress. But Partin might as well have been talking about the WTC six years later, where much of the steel evidence was destroyed in the month before engineering investigators began inspecting the scene. It was noted by the House Committee on Science, as they reviewed early shortcomings of the WTC investigation, that, "Some of the critical pieces of steel...were gone before the first BPAT team member ever reached the site."[7] At the time of this destruction of evidence, Gene Corley was in charge of the investigation and his OKC partner Charles Thornton's company was in charge of the site at Ground Zero.

In any case, it is clear that Rothschild's primary experts have a long history of involvement in US government interests, and in highly questionable engineering reports. But surely the "engineering professors at MIT and other leading universities in the country" could not all be so tied to US government interests. There must be some objective members within the group of scientists supporting the Bush Administration's theories, and some agreement among scientists around the world.

The truth is that interpretation of the events at the WTC does include some agreement from all parties. We all agree that no tall steel-framed building in history has ever collapsed uniformly at nearly free-fall speed into a pile of rubble for any reason whatsoever, outside of demolition. And we're in agreement that the first three occasions of such an event supposedly occurred all on the same day, all in the same place. To round out a quick agreement, we can all safely say that these improbable events were the emotional basis for the passing of legislation that had already been written (e.g. the Patriot Act), and for the invasion of several strategically-important countries, the plans for which were already in the works.

From there, however, the views of the government's credentialed experts diverge from those who are more interested in objectively seeking the truth. The initial facts of agreement should lead any objective person to seek a detailed investigation that leaves no hypothesis un-examined. But for the government's credentialed experts, only one hypothesis was worthy of consideration, a fire-based failure of all three buildings that jibed with the overall official version of the events of that day.

In support of that fire-based triple play, the experts gave us a progression of false stories. The media gave us the first false story, with help from PhD engineers, some of whom were contributors to the official reports. Eduardo Kausel, an "engineering professor at MIT" and contributor to the WTC report generated by the National Institute of Standards and Technology (NIST), suggested to us in Scientific American that this catastrophe was probably due to the jet fuel fires melting the steel in the buildings.[8] He was joined in this early theory by a handful of other PhD engineers and professors around the country, and by the US government's top suspect - Osama Bin Laden. The US State Department still promotes the melting steel theory by promoting the alleged confession video of the alleged Bin Laden, which Matthew Rothschild finds convincing as well. In this confession video, the credentialed expert Bin Laden said -- "Due to my experience in this field, I was thinking that the fire from the gas in the plane would melt the iron structure of the building..."[9] Apparently Bin Laden's plan was a complete failure after all, because even the experts now agree that jet fuel-accelerated office fires cannot melt steel (or Iron for that matter).

Another structural engineer who made early claims of melting steel, in the infamous 2002 Nova video "Why the Towers Fell", was Matthys Levy. Mr. Levy was a principal at the BMAG consulting firm Weidlinger Associates that, later, with the help of many other PhD engineers, produced a report on the WTC disaster as part of an insurance claim by Larry Silverstein.[10] This Silverstein-Weidlinger investigation was based on extensive computer modeling and involved many of the same contractors that contributed to the government studies. Their final report told us that floor failure had nothing to do with the WTC disasters, but "that the failure of columns alone, independent of the floors, explains the collapses."[11] At the time, Levy told us "There is no doubt left about the sequence of failure."[12]

Unfortunately, the credentialed experts were wrong again. Until NIST's final report came out in 2005, the "Pancake Theory" had replaced the column failure theory as the most widely accepted explanation for collapse. FEMA, along with a professor of Engineering from Northwestern, Zdenek Bazant, championed this theory of pancaking floors as the major explanation for the collapse of both towers, directly contradicting the Silverstein-Weidlinger report. This was strange, considering many of the same experts were involved in both the FEMA and Weidlinger investigations, including Gene Corley.

Amazingly enough, just last summer NIST finally admitted that the explanation could not involve pancaking floors either, by saying "NIST's findings do not support the "pancake theory" of collapse".[13] NIST's findings, first reported in their final draft report of October 2004 and built over a period of several years, originally consisted of two considerably different stories for the two towers. But NIST modified this nine months later in their final, final draft report, giving just one story for both towers about "widely-dislodged" fireproofing and sagging floors pulling the external columns inward, with no mention of pancaking. Their final, final collapse initiation sequence, the essence of their report, is now known to be false in every aspect.[14]

Through the years, NIST and the other official investigators ignored the demolition hypothesis completely, as can be seen from their reports and archived presentations. That's not surprising though, as the scientists working for FEMA and NIST, and therefore for the Bush Administration, would not likely lead their investigation toward a result that would limit or stop the 9/11 Wars. For example John Gross of NIST and Therese McAllister of Greenhorne & O'Mara, who not only co-authored the most important sections of NIST's report, but were also primary authors of FEMA's report, continue to act deaf, dumb and blind when it comes to evidence for the demolition hypothesis.[15] And we can imagine that all those "independent" contractors who contributed to the ever-changing story, who were also consulting firms for the DOD's interesting Blast Mitigation Action Group, would be hard-pressed to offer an explanation that would require a less militarily focused solution.

The only supposedly independent corroboration that the Bush scientists at NIST could produce for their appalling pack of lies was from that old respected scientific institution, Popular Mechanics. This Hearst magazine is not, as most people know, a scientific publication in any way, shape or form. When they talk about Mechanics, they do not mean Quantum Mechanics or Statistical Mechanics, or even Classical Mechanics. Popular Mechanics (PM) is simply a gloss-covered advertisement for numerous consumer items ranging from ATVs to lawn mowers. You know – mechanics.

This hasn't prevented many who cling to the official story from using PM as their scientific champion. For example, in his poorly researched hit piece against "conspiracy theorists", British essayist George Monbiot foists Popular Mechanics upon us, saying they "polled 300 experts" to support their findings.[16] But science is not about popularity, and PM's "poll" of "structural engineering/building collapse experts" actually consisted of only about 33 people, some of them listed as photographers, media-relations staff and spokespersons. Of those that were engineering-related, most were in some way related to OKC, FEMA, NIST or DOD, and many were responsible for the Weidlinger report, the Pancake Theory, or the NIST report.[17] It turns out that, when it comes to scientific explanations for terrorist acts, it's a small world after all.


It's in PM's book, "Debunking 9/11 Myths", that we find this survey. Here they include other figures like Forman Williams, although they fail to tell you that Dr. Williams was also a member of NIST's top advisory committee, and therefore was defending his own work. Williams is presented by PM as a disinterested academic expert, but one must wonder how disinterested Williams was when the University of California San Diego received $393 million in federal grants in 2005, the same year the NIST WTC report came out, with his own Engineering department receiving $44 million of that sum.[18] Another of PM's disinterested experts was Engineering professor Richard Fruehan of Carnegie Mellon University, an institute that received $100 million in federal grants that same year, with Engineering and research grants accounting for approximately half of the total.

In the case of Popular Mechanics, we see people being quite openly deceptive in their strong support of the Bush Administration's terror story. In their book they promote false claims that the government no longer supports, including the Pancake Theory. They also promote other, more ridiculous ideas including the claim that massive damage was done to the basement levels of a WTC tower by a bolus of jet fuel that meandered its way through several elevator shafts in the jogged elevator system, moving carefully around the elevators themselves and waiting all the while to explode in the sub-basements over 90 stories below. Additionally, PM repeats the false and ludicrous claim that the buildings were designed for airliner impacts, but not for jet fuel fires. In fact, John Skilling, the actual chief engineer of the WTC, made it clear in 1993 that jet fuel fires were considered in the structural design.[19]

In the forward to PM's book, Republican Senator John McCain describes how he feels the truth behind September 11th is more mundane than "conspiracy mongers" would have us believe. Strangely, he refers us to the "banality of Nazi evil" to show that 9/11 was probably not an elaborate conspiracy. That is, according to McCain, 9/11 was probably NOT part of a simple plan by corporate-funded politicians to maintain and expand their power, but was instead the work of a small group of powerless fanatics whose plans to bring about worldwide totalitarian rule were held back only by our own cherished freedoms. That's a tough bit to swallow, to be sure, but the idea that a Hearst publication would resort to the "banality of Nazi evil" is absolutely astounding. That's because in writing this forward, Senator McCain joined an infamous group of Hearst publication authors, including Adolf Hitler and Hermann Goering, who wrote for Hearst, the latter until 1938.[20]

Those of us fighting for the truth about 9/11 owe it to the victims of the expanding 9/11 Wars, and to ourselves, to reveal these ongoing lies from corporate criminals and their credentialed "experts". It is becoming increasingly obvious that those giving us one false story after another, while simultaneously ignoring much of the evidence of 9/11, might have more than just a cozy relationship with this government, and more than a benign past. It seems quite possible that some among those providing these explanations are knowingly complicit in the greater crime of a 9/11 cover-up.

It is also true that, like Matthew Rothschild, many of us simply want quick and easy answers, in order to relieve ourselves of any need to think about the facts of 9/11 and the changes in worldview that might be demanded of such an examination. The problem is, the easy answers have all been wrong, while at the same time the experts have ignored one fairly simple hypothesis that is now becoming obvious to many. It should be clear that this is because the credentialed experts we've been dealing with are all quite well invested in maintaining the official version of events.


1. Enough of the 9/11 Conspiracies, Already, The Progressive, Matthew Rothschild, September 11, 2006 http://www.progressive.org/mag_wx091106
2. For a short description of DOD's BMSP, see "Department of Defense Should Broaden Communication Efforts to Protect Federal and Civilian Buildings From Bomb Attacks", The National Academy of Sciences, November 2001, http://www8.nationalacademies.org/onpinews/newsitem.aspx?RecordID=10230
3. Missing Trillions: Rumsfeld Buries Admission of Missing 2+ Trillion Dollars in 9/10/01 Press Conference, 911Research.com, http://911research.wtc7.net/sept11/trillions.html
4. US Army Corps of Engineers, Blast Mitigation Action Group (BMAG), Consulting Firms, https://bmag.usace.army.mil/consulting_firms.php
5. Blast Loading and Response of Murrah Building, Mlakar, Corley, Sozen, Thornton, 1997, http://www.terrorisminfo.mipt.org/pdf/forensicengineering2.pdf
6. General Partin's letter to Senator Lott can be found in its entirety in the Final Report on the Bombing of the Alfred P. Murrah Federal Building, April, 19,1995, The Oklahoma Bombing Investigation Committee, Appendix, page 378-380. This letter is also reproduced here -http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/RANCHO/POLITICS/OK/PARTIN/ok8.htm
7. See Context of 'March 6, 2002: House Committee on Science Holds Hearing on WTC Collapses Investigation, Cooperative Research,
http://www.cooperativeresearch.org/context.jsp?item=a030602collapseheari...
8."When the Twin Towers Fell", Scientific American, October 9, 2001 http://www.public-action.com/911/jmcm/sciam/
9. The US State Department still appears to be promoting this first false theory by promoting Osama (Fatty) Bin Laden's baseless statements. US State Department website: The Top September 11 Conspiracy Theories, http://usinfo.state.gov/xarchives/display.html?p=pubs-english&y=2006&m=A...
10. Profile: Weidlinger Associates, Cooperative Research http://www.cooperativeresearch.org/entity.jsp?entity=weidlinger_associat...
11. "Report Ties WTC Collapses to Column Failures", Engineering News-Record, 10/25/02, McGraw Hill Construction, http://www.construction.com/NewsCenter/Headlines/ENR/20021025b.asp
12. Study Absolves Twin Tower Trusses, Fireproofing, Engineering News-Record, 11/04/02 http://enr.construction.com/news/buildings/archives/021104.asp
13. Answers to Frequently Asked Questions, August 2006, National Institute of Standards and Technology (NIST) Federal Building and Fire Safety Investigation of the World Trade Center Disaster, http://wtc.nist.gov/pubs/factsheets/faqs_8_2006.htm
14. See my essay, What is 9/11 Truth? – The First Steps, at the Journal of 911 Studies, http://www.journalof911studies.com . Also see the critique of my presentation Review of 'A New Standard For Deception: The NIST WTC Report' A Presentation by Kevin Ryan, Jim Hoffman, 911Research.com, 10/15/06 http://911research.wtc7.net/reviews/kevin_ryan/newstandard.html
15. See video of John Gross' presentation at the University of Texas Austin, with testimonies and evidence of molten metal at the WTC. Project for New American Citizens, http://911blogger.com/node/6104
16. "A 9/11 Conspiracy Virus is Sweeping the World, But it Has No Basis in Fact", George Monbiot, The Guardian, February 6, 2007, http://film.guardian.co.uk/features/featurepages/0,,2007519,00.html
17. Debunking 9/11 Myths: Why Conspiracy Theories Can't Stand up to the Facts, Dunbar & Reagan, Hearst Press, 2006. Note: See also Eduardo (melting steel) Kausel's glowing review in the front cover.
18. See Fedspending.org, Grants,
http://www.fedspending.org/
19. City in the Sky: The Rise and Fall of the World Trade Center, James Glanz and Eric Lipton, (New York: Times Books, 2003), 138
20. Remembering "The Chief", PBS's Online NewsHour, 9/07/00,
http://www.pbs.org/newshour/bb/media/july-dec00/nasaw_9-7.html
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Computerwetenschappers van Purdue University ontwikkelden de meest gedetailleerde reconstructie van de aanslagen van 9/11 tot nu toe.

De seconden waarin het allemaal gebeurde, zijn in het filmpje tot minuten uitgesponnen. De bedoeling is wetenschappelijk exact na te gaan hoe de noordtoren en de Boeing 767 reageerden na de botsing.

Het team computerwetenschappers verdeelde de toren en het vliegtuig in honderdduizenden virtuele elementen. Jarenlang bestudeerden ze filmmateriaal en de architectuur van de torens en voerden ze experimenten uit om de fysische reactie van al deze deeltjes te bepalen. Vervolgens werden de elementen met hun fysische eigenschappen in een computermodel op basis van wetenschappelijke principes ingevoerd.

De reconstructie laat zien hoe op de 95ste etage van de noordertoren 17 van de 47 steunpilaren na de inslag breken als tandenstokers. De grootste boosdoener was de 38.000 liter kerosine, die het bovenste deel van de wolkenkrabber in een vuurzee veranderde.

Het filmpje kan de aanhangers van een samenzweringstheorie niet overtuigen, zegt professor Christoph Hoffman, die bij de studie betrokken was. 'We worden er vaak van beschuldigd federale agenten te zijn.'
Met filmpje van de simulatie
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Dit filmpje zal wel vrij realistisch zijn, al lost het niet de vraag op hoe drie gebouwen loodrecht in elkaar kunnen storten op een zeer korte tijd door de impact van een vliegtuig in twee van die gebouwen.
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