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Oud 5 september 2013, 13:53   #6101
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Salah, Kerry, Mc Cain, Al-quaida, Obama, Fabius, een strijd!

Rusland een lachertje? Rusland heeft genoeg kernwapens om heel de wereld 30 keer te vernietigen... meer dan de VS trouwens. Rusland is wat verzwakt sinds de Sovjet-Unie ineen gestort is, maar ze komen er wel weer hoor geen paniek.
Uw ruslandstaarderij is echt om te gieren van het lachen.Rusland stelt niets voor en dat zal niet rap veranderen.
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Poetin belooft Russische actie indien Amerika de Syrische souvereine aanvalt.

The Guardian - Barack Obama and Vladimir Putin set for collision over Syria at G20 summit
4 september 2013 - Russian president signals he will take action if America strikes at Assad as US counterpart admits relations have hit a wall
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De rijken verlaten gewillig Het Beloofde Land :

Haaretz - Israeli billionaire Idan Ofer's moving to London. No loss to us
10 april 2013 - Bye, bye Idan. Your move won't impact Israel's economy, but it does send a clear message to taxpayers.

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De toezegging om S-300 air missiles te leveren voor onderschepping van raketten betekent Russische participatie in het conflict aan de zijde van Syrië. Het is ook in het belang van Rusland, dat al genoeg te stellen heeft met moslimterrorisme in het gebied dat het controleert. Hierbij sluit aan de reactie van Assad, dat zijn bondgenoten gemobiliseerd zijn en dat Syrië voor zijn bestaan zal vechten al zou dat WOIII ontketenen.

Het zou mij niet verbazen als de G20 vandaag niet door gaat of anders na enkele uren wordt gestaakt na het vertrek van Obama. Overigens is het merkwaardig dat de bankiers dit gerecht voorgeschoteld krijgen. Of belachelijk.
2! @Piero.

Wat dat laatste betreft, het is heus niet zo eigenaardig dat dit op het menu van de bankiers staat, integendeel...


Cui bono?


Who Benefits?

The Romans had a phrase that they used for legal analysis: cui bono, which translates to “who benefits?” Clearly, powerful individuals are pushing hard for the US to go to war. Let’s take a look at who these people are.


Politicians

Early 20th century writer Randolph Bourne was ever-so right when he taught us that “war is the health of the state.” In times of peace, the state is commonly resented. After all, they forcibly remove money from the people in their control, and that engenders bad feelings. When terrified by war, however, people are willing to forget about such matters: It is better to be a serf than to be a corpse.

Consider the “great Presidents” – nearly all of them were associated with a war, and probably a big one.

Bankers

I’m talking here about central bankers, not the operator of your local savings and loan.

War requires money, and lots of it. And money comes from central bankers, not from governments or even from simple printing presses. Dollars, yen, euros and the others come from central bankers, and those bankers get a cut of everything they create.

And then, of course, they get interest on those dollars from every business that needs loans for machines to manufacture bullets, uniforms, bombs, portable food, and everything else that goes into “giving a war.”


The Mega-corps

State-connected corporations thrive in time of war. These outfits are addicted to over-sized profits, and the very best tool for obtaining them is war. Nothing else comes close. So, for the sake of their stock prices, they need war and will push in dozens of ways to get it.

The Intelligence Complex

What’s not to like about war for these guys?

More money, worship on the nightly television shows, unlimited power, and no questions asked about your misdeeds… not to mention the segment of womankind that will reward the impressively violent with prompt mating privileges.

The Military Contracting Complex


There are literally thousands of military contracting firms these days, and all of the successful ones are allied with one government agency or another – a military service, a foreign affairs department, a retired general, a politician… someone with pull. It’s the only way to get work in those fields, and it’s also the best way for bureaucrats of the middle and upper levels to get kickbacks.

War funnels immense amounts of money to all levels of the state-corporate complex through this new conduit.



People Who Play On Emotions

Nothing stirs up “rah-rah” emotions better than images of dead people wearing your home team’s uniform. And that’s really good for the many people who cash in on your emotions. That list begins with politicians and continues with Hollywood (TV, movies and games) advertisers, all the people mentioned above, and even religious leaders. The churches of America fill with military rhetoric (and people) in time of war, and ambitious ministers play it up big. (With a few exceptions.)

So, that’s just a general list of people who benefit from war. The interesting thing about this moment is that the Western world – and America in particular – seems weary of the bloody exercise. They’ve had it for more than a decade, and the emotional surge has worn off.


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Zeer interessant om lezen, een prachtige samenvatting (overzicht) uit 1984 :

Lew Rockwell - Wall Street, Banks, and American Foreign Policy

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Perhaps the most powerful single figure in foreign policy since World War II, a beloved adviser to all Presidents, is the octogenarian John J. McCloy. During World War II, McCloy virtually ran the War Department as Assistant to aging Secretary Stimson; it was McCloy who presided over the decision to round up all Japanese-Americans and place them in concentration camps in World War II, and he is virtually the only American left who still justifies that action.

Before and during the war, McCloy, a disciple of Morgan lawyer Stimson, moved in the Morgan orbit; his brother-in-law, John S. Zinsser, was on the board of directors of J.P. Morgan & Co. during the 1940s. But, reflecting the postwar power shift from Morgan to Rockefeller, McCloy moved quickly into the Rockefeller ambit. He became a partner of the Wall Street corporate law firm of Milbank, Tweed, Hope, Hadley & McCloy, which had long served the Rockefeller family and the Chase Bank as legal counsel.

From there he moved to become Chairman of the Board of the Chase Manhattan Bank, a director of the Rockefeller Foundation, and of Rockefeller Center, Inc., and finally, from 1953 until 1970, chairman of the board of the Council on Foreign Relations. During the Truman Administration, McCloy served as President of the World Bank and then U.S. High Commissioner for Germany. He was also a special adviser to President John F. Kennedy on Disarmament, and chairman of Kennedy’s Coordinating Committee on the Cuban Crisis. It was McCloy who “discovered” Professor Henry A. Kissinger for the Rockefeller forces. It is no wonder that John K. Galbraith and Richard Rovere have dubbed McCloy “Mr. Establishment.”

A glance at foreign policy leaders since World War II will reveal the domination of the banker elite. Truman’s first Secretary of Defense was James V. Forrestal, former president of the investment-banking firm of Dillon, Read & Co., closely allied to the Rockefeller financial group. Forrestal had also been a board member of the Chase Securities Corporation, an affiliate of the Chase National Bank.

Another Truman Defense Secretary was Robert A. Lovett, a partner of the powerful New York investment-banking house of Brown Brothers Harriman. At the same time that he was Secretary of Defense, Lovett continued to be a trustee of the Rockefeller Foundation. Secretary of the Air Force Thomas K. Finletter was a top Wall Street corporate lawyer and member of the board of the CFR while serving in the cabinet. Ambassador to Soviet Russia, Ambassador to Great Britain, and Secretary of Commerce in the Truman Administration was the powerful multi-millionaire W. Averell Harriman, an often underrated but dominant force within the Democratic Party since the days of FDR. Harriman was a partner of Brown Brothers Harriman.

Also Ambassador to Great Britain under Truman was Lewis W. Douglas, brother-in-law of John J. McCloy, a trustee of the Rockefeller Foundation, and a board member of the Council on Foreign Relations. Following Douglas as Ambassador to the Court of St. James was Walter S. Gifford, chairman of the board of AT&T, and member of the board of trustees of the Rockefeller Foundation for almost two decades. Ambassador to NATO under Truman was William H. Draper, Jr., vice-president of Dillon, Read &Co.

Also influential in helping the Truman Administration organize the Cold War was director of the policy planning staff of the State Department, Paul H. Nitze. Nitze, whose wife was a member of the Pratt family, associated with the Rockefeller family since the origins of Standard Oil, had been vice-president of Dillon, Read & Co.

When Truman entered the Korean War, he created an Office of Defense Mobilization to run the domestic economy during the war. The first director was Charles E. (“Electric Charlie”) Wilson, president of the Morgan-controlled General Electric Company, who also served as board member of the Morgans’ Guaranty Trust Company. His two most influential assistants were Sidney J. Weinberg, ubiquitous senior partner in the Wall Street investment-banking firm of Goldman Sachs & Co., and former General Lucius D. Clay, chairman of the board of Continental Can Co., and a director of the Lehman Corporation.

Succeeding McCloy as President of the World Bank, and continuing in that post throughout the two terms of Dwight Eisenhower, was Eugene Black. Black had served for fourteen years as vice-president of the Chase National Bank, and was persuaded to take the World Bank post by the bank’s chairman of the board, Winthrop W. Aldrich, brother-in-law of John D. Rockefeller, Jr.

The Eisenhower Administration proved to be a field day for the Rockefeller interests. While president of Columbia University, Eisenhower was invited to high-level dinners where he met and was groomed for President by top leaders from the Rockefeller and Morgan ambits, including the chairman of the board of Rockefeller’s Standard Oil of New Jersey, the presidents of six other big oil companies, including Standard of California and Socony-Vacuum, and the executive vice-president of J.P. Morgan & Co.

One dinner was hosted by Clarence Dillon, the multi-millionaire retired founder of Dillon, Read & Co., where the guests included Russell B. Leffingwell, chairman of the board of both J.P. Morgan & Co. and the CFR (before McCloy); John M. Schiff, a senior partner of the investment-banking house of Kuhn, Loeb & Co.; the financier Jeremiah Milbank, a director of the Chase Manhattan Bank; and John D. Rockefeller, Jr.

Even earlier, during 1949, Eisenhower had been introduced through a special study group to key figures in the CFR. The study group devised a plan to create a new organization called the American Assembly – in essence an expanded CFR study group – whose main function was reputedly to build up Eisenhower’s prospects for the Presidency. A leader of the “Citizens for Eisenhower” committee, who later became Ike’s Ambassador to Great Britain, was the multi-millionaire John Hay Whitney, scion of several wealthy families, whose granduncle, Oliver H. Payne, had been one of the associates of John D. Rockefeller, Sr. in founding the Standard Oil Company. Whitney was head of his own investment concern, J.H. Whitney & Co., and later became publisher of the New York Herald Tribune.

Running foreign policy during the Eisenhower Administration was the Dulles family, led by Secretary of State John Foster Dulles, who had also concluded the U.S. peace treaty with Japan under Harry Truman. Dulles had for three decades been a senior partner of the top Wall Street corporate law firm of Sullivan & Cromwell, whose most important client was Rockefeller’s Standard Oil Company of New Jersey. Dulles had been for fifteen years a member of the board of the Rockefeller Foundation, and before assuming the post of Secretary of State was chairman of the board of that institution. Most important is the little-known fact that Dulles’s wife was Janet Pomeroy Avery, a first cousin of John D. Rockefeller, Jr.

Heading the super-secret Central Intelligence Agency during the Eisenhower years was Dulles’s brother, Allen Welsh Dulles, also a partner in Sullivan & Cromwell. Allen Dulles had long been a trustee of the CFR and had served as its president from 1947 to 1951. Their sister, Eleanor Lansing Dulles, was head of the Berlin desk of the State Department during that decade.

...

Kennedy continued Rockefeller’s Eugene Black as head of the powerful World Bank. When Black reached retirement age in 1962, he was replaced by George D. Woods, chairman of the board of the prominent investment bank, First Boston Corporation. Woods had many connections with the Rockefeller interests, including being a director of the Chase International Investment Corp., of the Rockefeller Foundation, and of other Rockefeller-dominated concerns.

Two important foreign policy actions of the Kennedy Administration were the Cuban Missile Crisis and the escalation of the war in Vietnam. Kennedy was advised during the Cuban missile crisis by an ad hoc group called the Ex Comm, which included, along with his official major foreign policy advisers, Robert A. Lovett and John J. McCloy. In the Vietnam War, Kennedy brought in as Ambassador to South Vietnam the Boston Brahmin and Morgan-oriented Henry Cabot Lodge, who had been Eisenhower’s Ambassador to the United Nations and who had run for Vice-President on the Nixon ticket in 1960. Virtually the last foreign policy act of John F. Kennedy was to give the green light to Lodge and the CIA to oust, and murder, South Vietnamese President Ngo Dinh Diem.

LBJ and the Power Elite

Lyndon Johnson’s foreign policy was dominated by his escalation of the Vietnam conflict into a full-scale (if undeclared) war, and of the increasing splits over the war among the financial power elite. Johnson retained the hawkish Rusk, McNamara, McCone, and Lodge in their posts. As newly minted Vietnam doves were ousted from foreign policy positions, they were replaced by hawks. Thus, William Bundy became Assistant Secretary of State for Far Eastern Affairs, at the same time becoming a director of the CFR. On the other hand, the increasingly critical W. Averell Harriman was ousted from his post of Under-Secretary of State.

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Henry A. Kissinger

But of course the dominant foreign policy figure in both the Nixon and Ford Administrations was not William Rogers but Henry A. Kissinger, who was named national security adviser and soon became virtually the sole force in foreign policy, officially replacing Rogers as Secretary of State in 1973.

Kissinger was virtually “Mr. Rockefeller.” As a Harvard political scientist, Kissinger had been discovered by John J. McCloy, and made director of a CFR group to study the Soviet threat in the nuclear age. He was soon made director of a special foreign policy studies project of the Rockefeller Brothers Fund, and from there became for more than a decade Nelson Rockefeller’s chief personal foreign policy adviser.


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The Trilateral Commission

In July 1973 a development occurred which was to have a critical impact on U.S. foreign – and domestic – policy. David Rockefeller formed the Trilateral Commission, as a more elite and exclusive organization than the CFR, and containing statesmen, businessmen, and intellectuals from Western Europe and Japan.

The Trilateral Commission not only studied and formulated policy, but began to place its people in top governmental posts.
North American secretary and coordinator for the Trilaterals was George S. Franklin, Jr., who had been for many years executive director of the CFR. Franklin had been David Rockefeller’s roommate in college and had married Helena Edgell, a cousin of Rockefeller. Henry Kissinger was of course a key member of the Trilaterals, and its staff director was Columbia University political scientist Zbigniew Brzezinski, who was also a recently selected director of the CFR.


Only three days before accepting the Nixon Administration post, Rockefeller gave Kissinger $50,000 to ease the fiscal burdens of his official post. Nixon and Kissinger re-escalated the Vietnam War by secretly bombing and then invading Cambodia in 1969 and 1970; they could be sure of compliance from Ellsworth Bunker, whom Nixon retained as Ambassador to South Vietnam until the end of the war.

Apart from the Vietnam War, the Nixon Administration’s major foreign policy venture was the CIA-led overthrow of the Marxist Allende regime in Chile. U.S. firms controlled about 80 percent of Chile’s copper production, and copper was by far Chile’s major export. In the 1970 election, the CIA funnelled $1 million into Chile in an unsuccessful attempt to defeat Allende. The new Allende regime then proceeded to nationalize large U.S.-owned firms, including Anaconda and Kennecott Copper and the Chile Telephone Co., a large utility which was a subsidiary of ITT (International Telephone and Telegraph Co.).

Under the advice of Henry Kissinger and of ITT, the CIA funneled $8 million into Chile over the next three years, in an ultimately successful effort to overthrow the Allende regime. Particularly helpful in this effort was John A. McCone, the West Coast industrialist whom Johnson had continued in charge of the CIA. Now a board member of ITT, McCone continued in constant contact by being named a consultant to the CIA on the Chilean question. President Nixon continued Johnson holdover Richard Helms as head of the CIA, and Helm’s outlook may have been influenced by the fact that his grandfather, Gates W. McGarrah, had been the head of the Mechanics and Metals National Bank of New York, director of Bankers Trust, and chairman of the board of the powerful Federal Reserve Bank of New York.

Of the $8 million poured into Chile by the CIA, over $1.5 million was allocated to Chile's largest opposition newspaper, El Mercurio, published by wealthy businessman Augustin Edwards. Edwards was also, not coincidentally, vice president of Pepsico, a company headed by President Nixon's close friend Donald M. Kendall. The transaction was arranged at a quiet breakfast meeting in Washington, set up by Kendall, and including Edwards and Henry Kissinger. After the successful overthrow of Allende by a military junta in September 1973, the man who became the first Minister of Economy, Development, and Reconstruction was Fernando Leniz, a high official of El Mercurio who also served on the board of the Chilean subsidiary of the Rockefeller-controlled International Basic Economy Corporation.

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It is hard to see how the Trilateralists can lose in the 1984 elections. On the Republican ticket they have George Bush, the heir apparent to Ronald Reagan; and in the Democratic race the two front-runners, Walter Mondale and John Glenn, are both Trilateralists, as is Alan Cranston of California. And, as a long shot, John Anderson of the “National Unity Party” is also a Trilateral member. To paraphrase a famous statement by White House aide Jack Valenti about Lyndon Johnson, the Trilateralists and the financial power elite can sleep well at night regardless of who wins in 1984.


...

After the long battle to create a central bank in the U.S., the high priests of high finance finally seized and consolidated control of domestic economic policy. It only remained for them to extend their dominance internationally, and for this purpose they created the Council on Foreign Relations, and, later, the Trilateral Commission.

These two groups have been seized upon by the new populist Right as the virtual embodiments of the Power Elite, and rightly so. It is only by reading Rothbard, however, that this insight is placed in its proper historical perspective. For the fact of the matter is that, as Rothbard shows, the CFR/ Trilateralist network is merely the latest incarnation of a trend deeply rooted in modern American history. Long before the founding of the CFR or the Trilateral Commission, there was a power elite in this country; that elite will likely endure long after those organizations are gone or transmuted into something else. Rothbard’s unmasking of the historical and economic roots of this trend is vital in understanding that this is not a “conspiracy” centered in the CFR and the Trilateralist groups, as such, but an ideological trend traditionally centered in the Northeast, among the upper classes, and deeply rooted in American history.

I put the word “conspiracy” in quotes because it has become the favorite swearword of the Respectable Right and the “extremist”-baiting Left. If it is conspiracy-mongering to believe that human beings engage in purposeful activity to achieve their economic, political, and personal goals, then rational men and women must necessarily plead guilty. The alternative is to assert that human action is purposeless, random, and inexplicable. History, in this view, is a series of discontinuous accidents.

Yet it would be inaccurate to call the Rothbardian world view a “conspiracy theory.” To say that the House of Morgan was engaged in a “conspiracy” to drag the U.S. into World War I, when indeed it openly used every stratagem, every lever both economic and political, to push us into “the war to end all wars,” seems woefully inadequate. This was not some secret cabal meeting in a soundproof corporate boardroom, but a “conspiracy” of ideas openly and vociferously expressed. (On this point, please note and underscore Rothbard’s analysis of the founding of The New Republic as the literary flagship of “the growing alliance for war and statism” between the Morgan interests and liberal intellectuals – and isn’t it funny how some things never change?)


A conspiracy theory attributes virtually all social problems to a single monolithic agency. Radical feminism, which attributes all the evil in the world to the existence of men, is a classic conspiracy theory; the paranoid views of the ex-Communists in the conservative movement, who were obsessed with destroying their ex-comrades, was another.

But the complexity and subtlety of the Rothbardian analysis, backed up by the sheer mass of rich historical detail, sets Rothbard on an altogether different and higher plane. Here there is no single agency, no omnipotent central committee that issues directives, but a multiplicity of interest groups and factions whose goals are generally congruent.

In this milieu, there are familial, social, and economic connections, as well as ideological complicity, and none is better than Rothbard at ferreting out and unraveling these biographical details. Taken together, the author’s small and studied brushstrokes paint a portrait of a ruling class whose ruthlessness is surpassed only by its brazen disloyalty to the nation.


It is a portrait that remains unchanged, in its essentials, to this day. Wall Street, Banks, and American Foreign Policy was written and published in 1984, during the Reagan years.


Mijn excuses voor de lange C/P, stukjes genomen uit deze uiterst getailleerd analyse van Murray Rothbard. U kan zich natuurlijk inbeelden dat we anno 2013 nog heel wat verder staan. Dat wordt duidelijk als we heden bvb. naar de rol van Goldman Sachs kijken in de VS en de EU. JP Morgan, de Fed, etc...

Op zich is dit een apart topic waard, er bestaat trouwens reeds een draad welke een onderdeel van deze ontwikkeling bespreekt.

Zoals U ziet, het zijn de bankiers die over oorlogen beslissen, niemand anders. Bankiers die Syrie op de G20 bespreken is misschien niet juist, maar toch is het perfect logisch. De nieuwe orde welke deze heerschappen wensen te instaleren staat in onmiddelijk verband met hun drang naar totale hegemonie, wereldmacht en kortom full spectrum dominance.

Geld is voor deze bankiers slechts een middel welke ze zelf kunnen aanmaken, hun eigen fiduciair geld is voor hun van geen betekenis. Alles draait om macht. In dit spel betekent 99.9% van de bevolking voor hun als puntje bij paaltje komt, niet meer dan casino chips of poker chips (McCain speelde poker op zijn smartpone. ), of beter... onwaardige (mee-)eters, useless eaters... een peon op het grote schaakbord... wegwerptools net zoals AQ.

Dit is zoals U zal kunnen besluiten na het lezen van voorvermelde analyse, geen gekke theorie, maar wel een ware samenzwering. It is what it is.
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De rebellen zullen chemische wapens inzetten. Videoboodschap.

Arutz - Video - Syria Rebels: We'll Use Chemical Weapons, Too

Senior commanders in the rebel forces in Syria published a videotaped announcement Thursday in which they expressed their intent to respond to the chemical gas attack by President Bashar al-Assad's forces last week, by hitting back with all the means at their disposal and no “red lines.”


Googlevertaling van de toegevoegde tekst bij de videoboodschap (youtube) :



Internationale verantwoordelijkheden ten opzichte van hun zoon Bashar moordpartijen .. De Nationale Coalitie van personeel af te treden en niet aansprakelijk worden gesteld en vervolgd ... Tekst van de verklaring -
In de naam van God de Barmhartige
(De splitsing kwam dicht bij de maan * hoewel gezien elk aanbod en zeg de magische constante * en voorgelogen en volgen hun eigen begeerten en alles is stabiel * Ik kwam tot hen van het nieuws wat het Mzadgr * grote wijsheid Wat voor nut gelofte)
Alle lof zij Allah en vrede en zegeningen zij met de Boodschapper van Allah na
Wij zijn leiders in de fronten van de Generale Staf:
Noord-en Oost Front en de Centrale Bank en de voorste Homs
En vertegenwoordigers van de (militaire raden, teams en militaire brigades, revolutionaire leiders volledige Syrische vuil)
Verklaren het volgende:
Het is uitgegroeid tot helder en duidelijk internationale en wereldwijde samenzwering van de Syrische Revolutie gezegende
En hun met Magi bezetting in de Syrische bloedvergieten gebruikers van alle soorten wapens
Waaronder de internationaal verboden na valse beloften en een volledig jaar van landen die zichzelf noemen
Een vriend van het Syrische volk laten zien dat ze niet krijgen de rode lijnen Bala.
Terwijl het doen opgericht in landen zoals China, Rusland, Iran en Irak, naast
Lat Partij en enkele huurlingen van Egypte naar alle vormen van steun aan de bezetting Magi
Nog steeds de positie van de Arabische en islamitische landen, vooral die beweren ondersteuning van de Syrische revolutie
Broodmagere positie is niet aan het niveau van de offers van het Syrische volk en die is opgesloten in oorlog
Namens de Arabische en islamitische natie, er rekening mee dat dit vuur iedereen die hun verantwoordelijkheden niet doen zal bereiken
Dienovereenkomstig, verklaren wij een stopzetting van alle vormen van samenwerking met de lidstaten haar resolutie in de Veiligheidsraad, tenzij dringende internationale onderzoek opent naar de criminele systeem van chemische wapens te gebruiken, en direct verantwoording afleggen.
En we roepen alle facties van het leger vrij om te werken en te coördineren met alle krachten op de grond Syrië, en hen uitnodigen om vertrouwen in God alleen en dat ze zijn volk, een man tegen de bezetting Magi, gesteund door de internationale gemeenschap en sloeg de vijand met al onze kracht en alle middelen
Beschikbaar is, is er geen rode lijnen na vandaag, wetende dat we in staat zijn om de chemische depots controleren, en het voorkomt dat we de angst om gevangen in de chaos van chemische wapens, maar na dit geval Vaqubh op punk.
(Uw Heer aan de engelen openbaarde ik met u فثبتوا die geloven Ik zal in de harten der ongelovigen verschrikking slaat boven hun hoofd af en slaat ze elke Libanon).
We hebben geleerd dat na de uitgifte van deze verklaring, zo niet het niveau van de Arabische en islamitische steun in verhouding met de grootte van de offers
De inspanningen van het Syrische volk, beschouwen we de grond van ontslag uit de leiding van fronten, en wij vragen onze stafchef van deze resolutie
Dienovereenkomstig Astqalatna de coalitie is onwettig en niet het Syrische volk te vertegenwoordigen.
Allahu Akbar Allahu Akbar Allahu Akbar en Glorie aan Allah en Zijn boodschapper en de gelovigen
2013/08/22


Googletranslate staat nog niet op punt...

De reguliere media (CNN) bericht zojuist dat deze verklaring een reële bedreiging vormt.

Kerry liegt.

MEMRI zou het ding ondertussen vertaald hebben. Als iemand het kan vinden...
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http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/...98405L20130905

In de aanhoudende "peptalk" die de Amerikaanse Minister van BuZa dient aan te houden omtrent de aankomende aanvallen op Syrie(die waarschijnlijk niet door de VN zullen gesanctioneerd raken,maar dit detail terzijde...) begint de Minister wel enigszins naast de waarheid te marcheren...

In een poging om "vrienden" aan te wijzen in Syrie heeft de Minister "ontdekt" dat de "gematigde" rebellen belangrijker zouden worden dan de AQ-geaffilieerde rebellen...

De brave man heeft het waarschijnlijk over die "rebellen" in pak en das die in Turkije en Londen of zelfs vanuit nog meer mondaine plaatsen de democratie in Syrie profeteren....

De inlichtingendiensten ondertussen blijven duidelijk,het zijn de AQ-geaffilieerde strijdkrachten die op het terrein het best presteren,het best georganiseerd zijn,het meest initiatief nemen.Het is echt niet toevallig dat zelfs de Hezbollah-milities aan hen echt wel een harde noot hebben....


De VS staat op het punt Al-Quada te gaan steunen,ze zouden willen van niet,maar ze hebben zichzelf in dat verdomhoekje geneuzeld omdat de President niet kon zwijgen met die idiote "rode draad" een tijdje geleden.

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De VS staat op het punt Al-Quada te gaan steunen
Wat een flauwekul.
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FSA en Nusra werken samen. Hier nog een recent voorbeeldje :


This footage from September 4, 2013 shows terrorists from the 'Revolutionaries of Bab Amr' Brigade of the "Free Syrian Army" (FSA) conducting a joint invasion with al-Qaeda's Jabhat al-Nusra (Nusra Front) of the only town in the world where the ancient language of Aramaic is still spoken by its inhabitants.


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Kerry liegt en hij weet het. Ook de Amerikaanse site voor reisadvies voor Amerikanen vermeldt duidelijk de indrukwekkende aanwezigheid van AQ in Syrie, negatief reisadvies.
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China stuurt een amfibisch landingsschip/commandoschip (LSD) naar de Syrische kust.
According to the Russian news outlet Telegrafist.org, the People’s Liberation Army dispatched the Jinggangshan amphibious dock landing ship and the vessel was seen passing through the Red Sea towards the Suez Canal, the waterway in Egypt that leads to the Mediterranean Sea and waters off the coast of Israel, Lebanon and Syria.
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Video ivm bovenstaande.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r-jf2sKmRZI
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AQ executeert 7 Syrische soldaten

NYT - Brutality of Syrian Rebels Posing Dilemma in West (+ Video)
5 september 2013 - “For fifty years, they are companions to corruption,” he said. “We swear to the Lord of the Throne, that this is our oath: We will take revenge.” The moment the poem ended, the commander, known as “the Uncle,” fired a bullet into the back of the first prisoner’s head. His gunmen followed suit, promptly killing all the men at their feet.


Reuters - Kerry portrait of Syria rebels at odds with intelligence reports
5 september 2013 - (Reuters) - Secretary of State John Kerry's public assertions that moderate Syrian opposition groups are growing in influence appear to be at odds with estimates by U.S. and European intelligence sources and nongovernmental experts, who say Islamic extremists remain by far the fiercest and best-organized rebel elements.

CNSNews - U.S. Travel Warning: Al Qaeda-Affiliated Syrian Rebels Have 'Claimed Nearly 600 Attacks'
1 september 2013

USA Today - Putin calls Kerry a liar on Syria
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Rusland beschuldigt de VS nogmaals van leugens.

Voice of Russia - Kremlin shocked by Pentagon's statement on supply of chemical weapons to Syria from Russia
5 september 2013 - Sergei Ivanov, the head of the Russian presidential administration, said he is "surprised, if not shocked" by the statement made by the US Department of Defense that Russia has supplied chemical weapons to Syria. Such accusations are "complete nonsence" that lie "beyond the reach of reason," said the head of the presidential administration.
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10.000 extra strijdkrachten van Hezbollah trekken naar Damascus bericht een Saoedische krant.
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Rusland beschuldigt de VS nogmaals van leugens.
Als ik een dollar kreeg elke keer een politicus de waarheid sprak, had ik nu 50 cent.
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Barak heeft al lang geen goesting meer om te gaan vechten, maar hij is nu aan het finessen om de schuld bij de republikeinen te leggen.
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Dat ziet er uit zoals gehoopt en waarschijnlijk ook de bedoeling was van Obama, zijn de rooie de democraten?
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Dat ziet er uit zoals gehoopt en waarschijnlijk ook de bedoeling was van Obama, zijn de rooie de democraten?
Vreemd genoeg zijn de rode de republikeinen.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...-2004Nov1.html

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Before Bush's disputed victory over Al Gore four years ago, there was no consensus on the color of liberalism or conservatism. Indeed the scheme was often reversed, reflecting traditional European associations (red being not just the color of communism but of Great Britain's Labor Party, too).

In 1976, NBC identified states won by Gerald Ford in blue and Jimmy Carter's states in red. On election night in 1980, ABC News showed Ronald Reagan's march to the White House as a series of blue lights on a map, with Carter's states in red. Time magazine assigned red to the Democrats and blue to the Republicans in its election graphics in every election from 1988 to 2000. The Washington Post's election graphics for the 2000 election were Republican-blue, Democrat-red.

The first reference to "red states" and "blue states," according to a database search of newspapers, magazines and TV news transcripts since 1980, occurred on NBC's "Today" show about a week before the 2000 election. Matt Lauer and Tim Russert discussed the projected alignment of the states, using a map and a color scheme that had first shown up a few days earlier on NBC's sister cable network, MSNBC. "So how does [Bush] get those remaining 61 electoral red states, if you will?" Russert asked at one point.

In an interview yesterday, Russert disclaimed credit for coining the red-state, blue-state distinction. "I'm sure I wasn't the first to come up with it," he said. "But I will take credit for the white board," Russert's signature, hands-on electoral vote tracker.
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10.000 extra strijdkrachten van Hezbollah trekken naar Damascus bericht een Saoedische krant.
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Meanwhile, the Syrian President's Office political advisor, Bouthaina Shaaban, claimed that it was the Syrian opposition who perpetrated the August 21 chemical attack: "The opposition kidnapped men and children from villages in Latakia and brought them to the Gouta area near Damascus. There it used chemical weapons against them," she said in an interview for Sky news in Arabic.
Als dit waar is dan kan dit geverifieerd worden via de identiteit van de slachtoffers, als het hoofdzakelijk geen inwoners zijn van de wijk dan is dat nog een bewijs tegen de rebellen.
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Vreemd genoeg zijn de rode de republikeinen.

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Tx, wel grappig hoe dat zo gegroeid is.
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