Het Tesla aandeel

[Bob]

Oorspronkelijk geplaatst door Tavek

Dat maakt het plezant.

Oudere beleggers verkorten hun leven met dit aandeel, maar ik kan er tegen

Geeft inderdaad een "kick". Maar den tijd dat oudere beleggers het er van aan hun hart kregen is dan toch ook al ne tijd geleden. Die sterven tegenwoordig allemaal aan iets anders. Maar hartinfracten, dat wordt een zeldzaamheid.

[Eduard Khil]

Oorspronkelijk geplaatst door Profiteur

Dus je blijft werkslaaf en al de tralala over aandelen is niet meer dan wat stoerdoenerij? En pas op 1/10/2018 ben ik officieel dopper. Vandaag ben ik nog steeds een werknemer in opzegtermijn

ik hoop dat je genoeg wiskunde kan om te weten wat voor een kapitaal je moet beleggen om te kunnen leven van een opbrengst van 10%

en hoe kom je aan zo'n kapitaal? Kleine tip: niet door te doppen

[Eduard Khil]

wederom één stap dichter bij het totale failliet van tesla! Verlaat het schip!

[Micele]

Of de Timeline van de 24% stijging sinds 22 mei:

https://www.zacks.com/commentary/167...WTCH-HL-167250

Shares in Tesla are up 3% - after trading up as much as 6% - on Tuesday, building on a nearly 5% gain on Monday. At the current price of $343/share, Tesla has now gained an astonishing 24% since hitting recent lows of $275/share on May 22nd.



The most recent news is that an analyst conducted his own survey of 20 Tesla sales centers and found a large reported increase in recent Model 3 deliveries. This new information convinced him to raise his estimate for Model 3 deliveries in Q2 from 20,000 to 30,000. It’s the latest in a series of positive news items for the company tat began at the Annual Shareholders’ Meeting last week at which CEO Elon Musk announced that Tesla would be able to produce 5,000 Model 3s per week by the end of June.

Here’s a brief timeline of recent developments for Tesla:

- May 2nd – Tesla reports positive earnings, but Musk holds the now infamous press conference in which he dismisses several analyst questions as “Dry” and “Boneheaded.” He adds that investors who have a distaste for volatility shouldn’t bother owning the stock.


- May 4th – Musk tweets about the “short burn” to come.



- May 8th - Musk personally buys an additional $10M worth of Tesla shares, adding to his 20% stake in the company.

- June 1st – A report in a German business journal details a reverse engineering project on a Model 3 which found impressive design features, a significant reduction in the amount of expensive Cobalt used in the batteries and a low estimate of the overall cost of production. (Read about it here>>)

- June 5th – Tesla Annual Shareholder Meeting. Musk is retained as Chairman of the Board and three Musk- friendly board members are re-confirmed. The CEO states that 5,000 Model 3s per week will likely be produced by the end of Q2. Tesla also reveals plans for a second Gigafactory in Shanghai, China.


- June 10th – Tesla announces that the most recent update of its Autopilot software will allow further autonomous driving functions to be enabled.


- June 12th – KeyBanc analyst Brad Erikson raises production estimate 50%

- June 12th – Tesla announces layoffs of 9% of its workforce, primarily white collared salary jobs as part of its previously announced desire to flatten is management structure. The goal reported to move toward toward sustained profitability. Production goals are unchanged.


While the 50% increase in expected deliveries is certainly a positive development for Tesla, the market reaction seems to be somewhat out of proportion, given that some of these numbers, while far from certain, were already an established possibility being floated by those presenting a bullish thesis for the company.


The incredible upward price pressure seen over the past few days is probably largely the result of short covering. Short interest in Tesla shares has grown from around 30 million at the beginning of 2018 to 39 million on May 31st, the most recent report available. This means the total losses in those short positions is now near $3 billion.



The market participants in the shares right now can be broken down into a few broad categories:

- Musk – 20% (self-explanatory) he’s not selling.

- Institutional Investors – 61% as Tesla shares rise, there’s actually an incentive for money managers to get on board to avoid underperforming the funds that are already invested, though some long-term holders may take the opportunity to lighten up by taking some profits on the rally.

- Retail Investors – (approximately 19%) Most individual investors in Tesla are in for the long term and aren’t particularly interested in selling out. Tesla’s status as a “cult” stock attracts a dedicated breed of investor who sees the company as the one of the biggest companies in the world years or decades from now and who is not enticed to sell by a quick rally.

- Strong and Weak Shorts – Short selling is a complicated rational and emotional enterprise because of the Catch-22 of big rallies. Investors who think a stock is overvalued at a given price (and have sold it short) only become more convinced that the valuation doesn’t make sense if the price rises. While the most recent price move has been painful, it’s easy to imagine the better-capitalized short players are now more bearish than ever and more certain than ever of the premise of their position.


Unfortunately for the shorts, much of the buying in a short-squeeze is not voluntary. An old adage - frequently attributed to the great economist John Maynard Keynes (who was unfortunately not a great investor) - states “The markets can remain irrational longer than you can remain solvent.”

When share prices rise rapidly, many shorts who would otherwise choose to stay short are forced out of their positions due to any one of a number of reasons – margin calls, an attempt to avoid reporting drawdowns to investors, forced buying by risk management at big firms, and the basic desire simply to not to get fired and/or go out of business.

We won’t now for sure how the short interest has changed until the most recent bi-monthly report is released after this week, but it’s a fair bet that at least some shorts have thrown in the towel during the most recent rally. Meeting production goals and achieving profitability are the most important factors in the company’s long-term prospects, but in the immediate future, the positioning of various market participants and current news is likely to drive daily moves in the shares.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YUh9PNjezGI

Tesla Short Sellers Beware! (TSLA)

05.05.2018 veröffentlicht

Elon Musk just signaled the same warning that sent the Tesla stock soaring at the end of 2012. TSLA shorts have been warned, go long and don't miss another Tesla opportunity!

[Eduard Khil]

het komt uit: Tesla gooit 10% van hun personeel buiten Dat is goed. Mensen ontslaan is goed, die kosten immers veel geld. En dat geld moet niet naar de werknemers gaan, het moet naar mij, de aandeelhouder gaan.

[Tavek]

Oorspronkelijk geplaatst door Eduard Khil

het komt uit: Tesla gooit 10% van hun personeel buiten Dat is goed. Mensen ontslaan is goed, die kosten immers veel geld. En dat geld moet niet naar de werknemers gaan, het moet naar mij, de aandeelhouder gaan.

Musk is alles behalve een sos.

Maar het bedrijf was te sterk gegroeid. Tzijn vooral managers die buiten vliegen:middenkader.

Het aandeel kreeg wel een tik, ipv 6% maar 3% gestegen die dag....

[Tavek]

Kortom, Tesla doet er alles aan om in Q3 winsten te kunnen tonen.....

Alles.

[Tavek]

Oorspronkelijk geplaatst door Micele

... behalve bij een short squeez....:

En toen de ontslagronde....

Bon, geen slechte dag in ieder geval.

[dpg]

Oorspronkelijk geplaatst door Tavek

Musk is alles behalve een sos.

Maar het bedrijf was te sterk gegroeid. Tzijn vooral managers die buiten vliegen:middenkader.

Het aandeel kreeg wel een tik, ipv 6% maar 3% gestegen die dag....

3.600 werknemers vliegen buiten, denken dat het vooral managers zijn is naief.

Ontslagen zijn ook zeer goed voor de motivatie van de resterende werknemers

[Micele]

Oorspronkelijk geplaatst door Tavek

En toen de ontslagronde....

Bon, geen slechte dag in ieder geval.

Vandaag wordt gestart bij $343, nauwelijks 3-4 weken geleden was de start bij $280 en lager...

Die shortsqueeze heeft gisteren de koers wel extra tijdelijk naar $355 gedreven, dat ligt aan het aantal shorters die afhaken.

De ontslagronde van 9% zag men wel aankomen, Tesla was enorm gegroeid.
Nu dat het langzaam gesmeerd loopt kijkt men ook eens welk personeel mekaar voor de voeten loopt, dat zal vooral middenkader zijn...

[Micele]

https://electrek.co/2018/06/12/tesla...e-restructure/
...

Musk also added Tesla “will still continue to hire outstanding talent in critical roles.”

Here’s the email in full:

From: Elon Musk

Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2018 10:27 AM

To: Everybody

Subject: Reorg Update

As described previously, we are conducting a comprehensive organizational restructuring across our whole company. Tesla has grown and evolved rapidly over the past several years, which has resulted in some duplication of roles and some job functions that, while they made sense in the past, are difficult to justify today.

As part of this effort, and the need to reduce costs and become profitable, we have made the difficult decision to let go of approximately 9% of our colleagues across the company. These cuts were almost entirely made from our salaried population and no production associates were included, so this will not affect our ability to reach Model 3 production targets in the coming months.

Given that Tesla has never made an annual profit in the almost 15 years since we have existed, profit is obviously not what motivates us. What drives us is our mission to accelerate the world’s transition to sustainable, clean energy, but we will never achieve that mission unless we eventually demonstrate that we can be sustainably profitable. That is a valid and fair criticism of Tesla’s history to date.

This week, we are informing those whose roles are impacted by this action. We made these decisions by evaluating the criticality of each position, whether certain jobs could be done more efficiently and productively, and by assessing the specific skills and abilities of each individual in the company. As you know, we are also continuing to flatten our management structure to help us communicate better, eliminate bureaucracy and move faster.

In addition to this company-wide restructuring, we have decided not to renew our residential sales agreement with Home Depot in order to focus our efforts on selling solar power in Tesla stores and online. The majority of Tesla employees working at Home Depot will be offered the opportunity to move over to Tesla retail locations.

I would like to thank everyone who is departing Tesla for their hard work over the years. I’m deeply grateful for your many contributions to our mission. It is very difficult to say goodbye. In order to minimize the impact, Tesla is providing significant salary and stock vesting (proportionate to length of service) to those we are letting go.

To be clear, Tesla will still continue to hire outstanding talent in critical roles as we move forward and there is still a significant need for additional production personnel. I also want to emphasize that we are making this hard decision now so that we never have to do this again.

To those who are departing, thank you for everything you have done for Tesla and we wish you well in your future opportunities. To those remaining, I would like to thank you in advance for the difficult job that remains ahead. We are a small company in one of the toughest and most competitive industries on Earth, where just staying alive, let alone growing, is a form of victory (Tesla and Ford remain the only American car companies who haven’t gone bankrupt). Yet, despite our tiny size, Tesla has already played a major role in moving the auto industry towards sustainable electric transport and moving the energy industry towards sustainable power generation and storage. We must continue to drive that forward for the good of the world.

Thanks, Elon

Er zit geen vakbond bij Tesla, ze proberen er wel in te geraken...

[Profiteur]

Oorspronkelijk geplaatst door Eduard Khil

ik hoop dat je genoeg wiskunde kan om te weten wat voor een kapitaal je moet beleggen om te kunnen leven van een opbrengst van 10%

en hoe kom je aan zo'n kapitaal? Kleine tip: niet door te doppen

Ook niet door braaf te gaan werken Maar we laten de interne keuken beter gesloten

[Micele]

Voorbeurs start al hoger $ 347,5 of +1,38 %

Tesla Inc.
PREMARKET
Last Updated: Jun 13, 2018 at 7:49 a.m. EDT
Delayed quote
$ 347.50

4.73 1.38%

[Tavek]

Rustige dag vandaag.

Maak me wel enige zorgen dat er geen nieuwe Model 3's worden registreerd....

[Micele]

Oorspronkelijk geplaatst door Tavek

Rustige dag vandaag.

Maak me wel enige zorgen dat er geen nieuwe Model 3's worden registreerd....

Kan zijn dat het iets te maken heeft met de 200.000 Tesla, vanaf dan vermindert de 7,5 k federal tax credit in de USA. Ik gis maar.
Maar dan zou men het wel ergens gelezen hebben.
3 weken zonder nieuwe VINs is wel lang.

De mensen die hun VIN al enkele weken verwachten maken zich meer zorgen, zelfs diegene die hun auto in juni zouden krijgen:

https://forums.tesla.com/forum/forum...icking-fremont
Submitted by robbiedjones on May 30, 2018
Watied in line on 3/31/16.
Configured on 4/18/18
MSM, 19" (changed from Aero on 4/23/18), PUP,EAP
Got email delaying delivery to June.
NO VIN!!!
I have watched 2 friends who stood in line with me receive their Tesla M3's. I have been waiting as patiently as I can, but feel ignored and or passed over.

What are your thoughts?

ook: https://forums.tesla.com/forum/forum...d-still-no-vin

Staking? lol.

[Micele]

CNBC heeft uitgerekend dat men dit jaar ca. dubbel zoveel nieuwe werknemers heeft tewerkgesteld dan dat ze nu gaan ontslaan door een herorganisatie.

https://www.cnbc.com/2018/06/12/tesl...ny-report.html

Since the start of the year, Tesla has added roughly 8,000 jobs and currently employs approximately 46,000 workers. Through this reorganization, it will shed about 4,100 jobs.

In mid-May, Tesla CEO Elon Musk had warned the company was undertaking a "thorough reorganization" and that it would flatten its management structure.

"To be clear, Tesla will still continue to hire outstanding talent in critical roles as we move forward and there is still a significant need for additional production personnel," Musk said in a letter to employees on Tuesday. "I also want to emphasize that we are making this hard decision now so that we never have to do this again."

ook: http://teslamag.de/news/laut-cnbc-te...arbeiter-19120

Ik denk niet dat men dat vandaag al gaat terugvinden in de Europese media...
Die proberen enkel negatief nieuws te brengen over Tesla, wat de laatste weken wel heel moeilijk was... lol

Vandaag kabbelt de koers rustig tussen $345 en $346. De shorters die overblijven hoeven voorlopig niet te hopen op een bergaf...

[Micele]

Elon is zeker van zijn stuk, kocht gisteren en vandaag aan een redelijk hoge koers (~ $343) nog voor $25 miljoen aandelen bij.

Musk heeft nu voor $ 11,67 miljard aandelen aan Tesla (per $346, momentele waarde)

https://electrek.co/2018/06/13/tsla-...y-tesla-stock/

Elon Musk appears to be flush with cash these days since he is buying a lot of Tesla shares – something he hasn’t done in while until now doing twice in about one month.

Today, he added about $25 million to his already huge position on the company that he co-founded as he now tries to make it profitable.

Over the past few months, the CEO has been predicting a short squeeze on Tesla’s stock that would be a ‘next level short burn of the century’.

He is putting his money where his mouth is since he has been adding to his investment in Tesla.

After a $10 million investment last month, Musk bought 72,500 shares, which is worth about $25 million, over the past 2 days.

Tesla disclosed the series of purchases in a SEC filing that was released earlier this afternoon:


It’s a drop in the insanely large bucket that is Musk’s stake in Tesla, which is now at 33,737,921 shares worth over $11.5 billion at today’s close.

Musk is already Tesla’s biggest shareholder and his position could improve significantly if the company achieves profitability and the stock keeps climbing.

Earlier this year, Tesla shareholders approved a massive new multi-billion CEO compensation package that could make Musk the richest person on earth.

Each $50 billion increase in Tesla’s market capitalization would result in Musk receiving 1.69 million shares, which is currently worth almost $600 million at today’s price, but the share price would increase alongside Tesla’s market cap.

As we reported earlier today, Tesla’s stock has been rising significantly throughout the last few weeks, which has resulted in a paper loss of about $2 billion for people betting against Tesla.

De 7 mei 2018 kocht hij voor 10 miljoen bij, aan gemiddelde koers $298,5:
https://electrek.co/2018/05/07/elon-...short-squeeze/

Musk koopt zich rijk - en voorspellend - ten koste van de burning shorters lol...

[Micele]

Premarkt > $347 of +0,8%.

Vandaag gaat de koers definitief boven $ 350. imho

Fed heeft gisteren de rente verhoogt (.25%) wat een dip gaf, of dat vandaag nog een rol speelt? Tesla is een very special aandeel.

[Tavek]

We zien wel.

Rustig....

Q2 = verlies maar wel hoge productieaantallen M3.

Q3 = winst

Daar mikken ze op. Als ze 5000/week bevestigen gaat het aandeel springen. Als ze winsten tonen ontploft het aandeel.

[Micele]

Premarkt is wat onrustig zoals eergisteren, $ 349 momenteel...

Q2 verwacht ik veel minder verlies.
Bij Q3-winst gaat het aandeel losjes boven $400, ontploffen is +500