SF Nazi Railway The Breitspurbahn 6 meter breed??

dewanand · 13 december 2021, 00:28

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SF Nazi Railway The Breitspurbahn 6 meter breed??

Betoog:
1) 6 meter breed spoorbaan ipv huidige smalspoor, compleet met luxe coupes in de trein, slapen zwembaden, dineren,

2) Er zijn wel technische problemen bij 6 meter spoor, vb buigkrachten dwars op de chassis. De assen kunnen doorbuigen of heel zwaar ontwerp.

3) 7 meters hoge treinen, instabiel he, rukwinden kunnen het omver blazen, stormen ook.

4) lengte 500 meter, loodzwaar ding, energie kosten gigantisch zware motoren

Nazi Germany was een echte Europese Nazi Unie jammerlijk genoeg stierven 40 miljoen van de sterkste blanke heterofiele mannen gedurende WOII. is grootste genetische verlies voor blanke Arische RAS.

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Nothing was too big in scale or too implausible in execution for what the Fuhrer dreamt up, whatever the scheme that caught his feverish fancy. For a vast empire, you need a vast transport solution.

The Breitspurbahn, which translates from the German as broad-gauge railway, was one such mega infrastructure project. ‘Epic’ is the first word that comes to mind when thinking of the immense scale of what was to be a railway network that would criss-cross Europe and beyond.

Initial lines for the railway system were to be between the German cities of Hamburg, Berlin, Nuremberg, Munich and Linz.

Other, grander proposed routes were something of a lesson in European geography. For example, the East-West route would be between Rostov in Russia and Paris, and included stops in Kiev, Ukraine, Kraków in Poland and Berlin.

Or take the North-Southeast route, which would be between Hamburg and Istanbul, Turkey, taking in major European capitals such as Vienna, Budapest and Belgrade along the way.

Other routes included those between Dresden in eastern Germany and Rome and that between Munich and Madrid.

Even more exotic routes that were touted early on in the project included far-flung destinations such as India and Vladivostok in Russia’s Pacific Far East. With maybe even perhaps a direct route into alaska, canada and beyond.

One thing to note was what all routes had in common: the assumption that all destinations would be under the direct or proxy control of Nazi Germany.

For such a radical rethink of european bordersl, requires a radical rethink of train design.

There were no less than 41 different designs for the Breitspurbahn locomotive offered by companies involved in the project.

Classical steam locomotives, as well as gas turbine-electric, diesel-hydraulic and electric locomotives were all considered, with power outputs ranging from 15,300 to 24,700 horsepower.

It was finally decided that locomotives for passenger trains would be mainly electric and diesel-hydraulic-powered,

whilst locomotives used to transport freight would be primarily conventional steam-engined.

High-performance locomotives would be needed for passenger trains,

so that they could haul 8-axle double-decker carriages or coaches that would be 42 metres or 138 feet long, 6 metres or 19 feet 8 inches wide and 7 metres or 23 feet in height. Passenger carriages would have Dutch doors that featured retractable staircases.

Luxurious facilities and unique features would be a hallmark of the Breitspurbahn trains.

Proposed designs included carriages with large dining rooms,

There were no less than 41 different designs for the Breitspurbahn locomotive offered by companies involved in the project.

Classical steam locomotives, as well as gas turbine-electric, diesel-hydraulic and electric locomotives were all considered, with power outputs ranging from 15,300 to 24,700 horsepower.

It was finally decided that locomotives for passenger trains would be mainly electric and diesel-hydraulic-powered,

whilst locomotives used to transport freight would be primarily conventional steam-engined.

High-performance locomotives would be needed for passenger trains,

so that they could haul 8-axle double-decker carriages or coaches that would be 42 metres or 138 feet long, 6 metres or 19 feet 8 inches wide and 7 metres or 23 feet in height. Passenger carriages would have Dutch doors that featured retractable staircases.

Luxurious facilities and unique features would be a hallmark of the Breitspurbahn trains.

Proposed designs included carriages with large dining rooms, bars and lounges, as well as a promenade and observation deck.

Trains would further feature a 196-seat cinema, a barbershop, a sauna and even a swimming pool,

offering an array and type of facilities and luxury never seen before on any mass-passenger train.

The mail and baggage cars could transport up to eight motor cars and,
importantly for military convoys, included enough space for multiple 20 mm anti-aircraft guns, ammunition storage and gun crews.

It was even envisaged that a large ship could be hauled by the freight locomotive!

The overall dimensions and scale of the train were awe-inspiring: its total length would be about 500 metres or 1,640 feet, with a capacity of between 2,000 and 4,000 passengers. And all this would be achieved at impressive speeds of up to 250 kilometres or 150 miles per hour.

But to facilitate such a huge train, the tracks would need to be bigger still!
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I always felt like the 3m wide gauge was probably the only good idea Hitler ever had. Too grandiouse to deploy in the middle of WWII, but the economies of scale (8 times more bulk freight per carriage if I remember correctly, with negligable increased rolling drag) makes this piece of infracture the king of logistics. Besides it was envisioned that it could transport oversized cargos like frigate or small destroyer hulls built in industries far from the coast. Imagine the potential in peacetime. Lots of infrastructure like small bridges or even modular houses could be built in factories and transported instead of built on-site, faster and cheaper. Add in modern railroad engineering and tech and you have the ultimate land transport infrastructure.
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Harriet Harlow
Harriet Harlow
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That is one mind blowing train. Kind of like a Queen Mary on tracks. Hitler and Company were definitely not afraid to think big.
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Tyrannus
Tyrannus
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Excellent sound effect choice for the train horn, anyone who's played HL² must see this train's resemblance to Combine razor trains.
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Mark Gavino
Mark Gavino
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Well, this is "If Snowpiercer is made by Germans, For Germans."
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A P
A P
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Wait so the mega train in Wolfenstein was inspired by reality!? Thats pretty cool, I always wondered what inspired it and I loved the extra wide carriages.
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KeeperofToast
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So basically, Hitler wanted to make Snowpiercer
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Uncle Ned
Uncle Ned
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Way ahead of his time on this one. Imagine how many intermodal containers a train of such scale could carry. Combined with the expansive international route which is pretty much impossible nowadays it would quickly become a vital connection on the world stage. And it would bring the luxuries of cruise ships to the much faster rails.
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Leslie Reissner
Leslie Reissner
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This is wonderful! There is not all the much information out there about the Breitspurbahn; I "discovered" it in a display case at the German Railway Museum in Nuremberg but there don't seem to be many books about the plan. Amazingly, even as the 1000 Year Reich shrank rapidly, planning continued right up until the Russians came to Berlin. There were some serious engineering issues, such as the massive curves needed with such a broad gauge, but also things like having to ferry passengers out to the train with smaller trains as the giant steam locomotives would asphyxiate everyone inside a station!
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Ismalith
Ismalith
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It is not "Breitspurbahn" it is "Reichsspurbahn". "Breitspur" are all railways that are wider than 1435mm, which includes quite a lot real existing railways like Finlands 1524mm railways or Indias 1676mm. The "Reichsspur" is the specific 3000mm wide Railway planned for the "Lebensraum im Osten" (living space in the east).
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CH Heinrich
CH Heinrich
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i am german and know of many nazi projects, but i have never heard of this before, wow
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kelt · 13 december 2021, 07:07

Vele decennia geleden,herinner ik mij,stond in het Populair Wetenschappelijk maandblad KIJK al een gans artikel over dat plan.....

Ach ,Albert Speer en zijn mensen moesten wel meer van die hersenspinsels van de Fuhrer uittekenen,soms zelfs al in wat schaalmodellen uitwerken.....

EIgenlijk was TOEN al duidelijk dat zo een monstertrein geen zin had,maar leg dat maar uit aan de "Korporaal-Generaal" hé......

NU,in naties waar echts zware treinen wel degelijk dagdagelijks NODIG zijn (de Volksrepubliek,Rusland de VS & Canada) werkt men in ieder geval nog steeds niet met extreem brede spoorbreedtes....

Het is al moeilijk genoeg een spoorlijn op "normale" breedtes te hebben en houden.....

13 december 2021, 00:28	#1
dewanand Minister-President Geregistreerd: 30 april 2005 Locatie: delft Berichten: 4.590	SF Nazi Railway The Breitspurbahn 6 meter breed?? onderwerp: SF Nazi Railway The Breitspurbahn 6 meter breed?? Betoog: 1) 6 meter breed spoorbaan ipv huidige smalspoor, compleet met luxe coupes in de trein, slapen zwembaden, dineren, 2) Er zijn wel technische problemen bij 6 meter spoor, vb buigkrachten dwars op de chassis. De assen kunnen doorbuigen of heel zwaar ontwerp. 3) 7 meters hoge treinen, instabiel he, rukwinden kunnen het omver blazen, stormen ook. 4) lengte 500 meter, loodzwaar ding, energie kosten gigantisch zware motoren Nazi Germany was een echte Europese Nazi Unie jammerlijk genoeg stierven 40 miljoen van de sterkste blanke heterofiele mannen gedurende WOII. is grootste genetische verlies voor blanke Arische RAS. --------------------------- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zkuEP5iMRiM The Insane Giant Nazi Railway - The Breitspurbahn 477.033 weergaven 8 dec. 2021 14K Vind ik niet leuk Delen Opslaan Found And Explained 206K abonnees Discord: https://discord.gg/WXb565P9nQ New Channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCD3c... Join this channel to get access to perks: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCpM4... Nothing was too big in scale or too implausible in execution for what the Fuhrer dreamt up, whatever the scheme that caught his feverish fancy. For a vast empire, you need a vast transport solution. The Breitspurbahn, which translates from the German as broad-gauge railway, was one such mega infrastructure project. ‘Epic’ is the first word that comes to mind when thinking of the immense scale of what was to be a railway network that would criss-cross Europe and beyond. Initial lines for the railway system were to be between the German cities of Hamburg, Berlin, Nuremberg, Munich and Linz. Other, grander proposed routes were something of a lesson in European geography. For example, the East-West route would be between Rostov in Russia and Paris, and included stops in Kiev, Ukraine, Kraków in Poland and Berlin. Or take the North-Southeast route, which would be between Hamburg and Istanbul, Turkey, taking in major European capitals such as Vienna, Budapest and Belgrade along the way. Other routes included those between Dresden in eastern Germany and Rome and that between Munich and Madrid. Even more exotic routes that were touted early on in the project included far-flung destinations such as India and Vladivostok in Russia’s Pacific Far East. With maybe even perhaps a direct route into alaska, canada and beyond. One thing to note was what all routes had in common: the assumption that all destinations would be under the direct or proxy control of Nazi Germany. For such a radical rethink of european bordersl, requires a radical rethink of train design. There were no less than 41 different designs for the Breitspurbahn locomotive offered by companies involved in the project. Classical steam locomotives, as well as gas turbine-electric, diesel-hydraulic and electric locomotives were all considered, with power outputs ranging from 15,300 to 24,700 horsepower. It was finally decided that locomotives for passenger trains would be mainly electric and diesel-hydraulic-powered, whilst locomotives used to transport freight would be primarily conventional steam-engined. High-performance locomotives would be needed for passenger trains, so that they could haul 8-axle double-decker carriages or coaches that would be 42 metres or 138 feet long, 6 metres or 19 feet 8 inches wide and 7 metres or 23 feet in height. Passenger carriages would have Dutch doors that featured retractable staircases. Luxurious facilities and unique features would be a hallmark of the Breitspurbahn trains. Proposed designs included carriages with large dining rooms, There were no less than 41 different designs for the Breitspurbahn locomotive offered by companies involved in the project. Classical steam locomotives, as well as gas turbine-electric, diesel-hydraulic and electric locomotives were all considered, with power outputs ranging from 15,300 to 24,700 horsepower. It was finally decided that locomotives for passenger trains would be mainly electric and diesel-hydraulic-powered, whilst locomotives used to transport freight would be primarily conventional steam-engined. High-performance locomotives would be needed for passenger trains, so that they could haul 8-axle double-decker carriages or coaches that would be 42 metres or 138 feet long, 6 metres or 19 feet 8 inches wide and 7 metres or 23 feet in height. Passenger carriages would have Dutch doors that featured retractable staircases. Luxurious facilities and unique features would be a hallmark of the Breitspurbahn trains. Proposed designs included carriages with large dining rooms, bars and lounges, as well as a promenade and observation deck. Trains would further feature a 196-seat cinema, a barbershop, a sauna and even a swimming pool, offering an array and type of facilities and luxury never seen before on any mass-passenger train. The mail and baggage cars could transport up to eight motor cars and, importantly for military convoys, included enough space for multiple 20 mm anti-aircraft guns, ammunition storage and gun crews. It was even envisaged that a large ship could be hauled by the freight locomotive! The overall dimensions and scale of the train were awe-inspiring: its total length would be about 500 metres or 1,640 feet, with a capacity of between 2,000 and 4,000 passengers. And all this would be achieved at impressive speeds of up to 250 kilometres or 150 miles per hour. But to facilitate such a huge train, the tracks would need to be bigger still! 1.314 reacties Kritisch Podium Dewanand Waldo Dewanand & Wieroe Voeg een openbare reactie toe… This is new This is new 4 dagen geleden (bewerkt) I always felt like the 3m wide gauge was probably the only good idea Hitler ever had. Too grandiouse to deploy in the middle of WWII, but the economies of scale (8 times more bulk freight per carriage if I remember correctly, with negligable increased rolling drag) makes this piece of infracture the king of logistics. Besides it was envisioned that it could transport oversized cargos like frigate or small destroyer hulls built in industries far from the coast. Imagine the potential in peacetime. Lots of infrastructure like small bridges or even modular houses could be built in factories and transported instead of built on-site, faster and cheaper. Add in modern railroad engineering and tech and you have the ultimate land transport infrastructure. 920 Harriet Harlow Harriet Harlow 4 dagen geleden That is one mind blowing train. Kind of like a Queen Mary on tracks. Hitler and Company were definitely not afraid to think big. 296 Tyrannus Tyrannus 4 dagen geleden Excellent sound effect choice for the train horn, anyone who's played HL² must see this train's resemblance to Combine razor trains. 460 Mark Gavino Mark Gavino 4 dagen geleden Well, this is "If Snowpiercer is made by Germans, For Germans." 863 A P A P 3 dagen geleden Wait so the mega train in Wolfenstein was inspired by reality!? Thats pretty cool, I always wondered what inspired it and I loved the extra wide carriages. 74 KeeperofToast KeeperofToast 4 dagen geleden (bewerkt) So basically, Hitler wanted to make Snowpiercer 355 Uncle Ned Uncle Ned 2 dagen geleden Way ahead of his time on this one. Imagine how many intermodal containers a train of such scale could carry. Combined with the expansive international route which is pretty much impossible nowadays it would quickly become a vital connection on the world stage. And it would bring the luxuries of cruise ships to the much faster rails. 173 Leslie Reissner Leslie Reissner 4 dagen geleden This is wonderful! There is not all the much information out there about the Breitspurbahn; I "discovered" it in a display case at the German Railway Museum in Nuremberg but there don't seem to be many books about the plan. Amazingly, even as the 1000 Year Reich shrank rapidly, planning continued right up until the Russians came to Berlin. There were some serious engineering issues, such as the massive curves needed with such a broad gauge, but also things like having to ferry passengers out to the train with smaller trains as the giant steam locomotives would asphyxiate everyone inside a station! 131 Ismalith Ismalith 4 dagen geleden (bewerkt) It is not "Breitspurbahn" it is "Reichsspurbahn". "Breitspur" are all railways that are wider than 1435mm, which includes quite a lot real existing railways like Finlands 1524mm railways or Indias 1676mm. The "Reichsspur" is the specific 3000mm wide Railway planned for the "Lebensraum im Osten" (living space in the east). 188 CH Heinrich CH Heinrich 4 dagen geleden i am german and know of many nazi projects, but i have never heard of this before, wow 223 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zkuEP5iMRiM ------------------------------- __________________ Kritisch Podium Dewanand http://www.dewanand.com

13 december 2021, 07:07	#2
kelt Secretaris-Generaal VN Geregistreerd: 29 juli 2004 Berichten: 32.837	Vele decennia geleden,herinner ik mij,stond in het Populair Wetenschappelijk maandblad KIJK al een gans artikel over dat plan..... Ach ,Albert Speer en zijn mensen moesten wel meer van die hersenspinsels van de Fuhrer uittekenen,soms zelfs al in wat schaalmodellen uitwerken..... EIgenlijk was TOEN al duidelijk dat zo een monstertrein geen zin had,maar leg dat maar uit aan de "Korporaal-Generaal" hé...... NU,in naties waar echts zware treinen wel degelijk dagdagelijks NODIG zijn (de Volksrepubliek,Rusland de VS & Canada) werkt men in ieder geval nog steeds niet met extreem brede spoorbreedtes.... Het is al moeilijk genoeg een spoorlijn op "normale" breedtes te hebben en houden..... Laatst gewijzigd door kelt : 13 december 2021 om 07:09.