Thailand wijzigt visa regels voor minder kapitaalkrachtige retirees, boohoo

[bembem]

Either way deze nieuwe visa regels zorgen voor nogal wat commotie bij de oudjes as other 'troubles' seem to arise:

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One of my neighbours is an 84 year old British expat, married to a Thai 37 years, lived in Thailand 23 years.

He always been on a retirement extension using the Embassy Income letter as proof.

His UK state pension is frozen, another company pension receives annual increases.

His total income (gross) last year was 67,000 baht.

Now he hasn't the option of the Embassy letter.

Transferring his income (nett) plus transfer costs will bring his available income to less than 65,000 baht per month using Thai bank statements.

He doesn't have internet banking.

He doesn't own a PC.

He thinks the internet is something they put across the middle of a tennis court.

He's always withdrawn his cash using his UK debit card from a Thai ATM.

Over the years he's invested around 8 million baht in land, house and truck.

Although he can meet the requirement for a marriage extension, he can't meet the requirement to transfer it into a Thai bank.

His other option is a Non Imm O ME Visa from Savannakhet, but due to age and walking difficulties he can't make the journeys.

His Thai family have offered to put the 400K in his Thai bank account for the required two months when it's required, but due to pride, stubbornness, and pure frustration he's refused and states he merely go into overstay and let Immigration deal with the aftermath of his care. He can't fly anymore due to his conditions, so returning him to Blighty wouldn't be an option.

There must be more who now find themselves in this predicament.

Yep, mai pen rai no more........

[bembem]

Or like this one states:

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It's not just the costs but also the difficulty for certain expats.

Over the previous two years the baht has strengthened significantly against the major currencies, especially so for the British who in the uncertainty of any Brexit deal have seen there incomes already drop over 20% during this period.

Leaving that aside.

The difference between a gross income as in Embassy letters of where no tax has been deducted and that doesn't truly affect the income available to you and the nett incomes after tax, now forcibly having to be transferred to a Thai bank is probably around a further 10% decrease in income although it does truly indicate the income available, then the cost of 12 monthly transfers.

These factors are significant for many expats, sometimes being the difference between still meeting the requirements or now being just under and having to find an alternative method to stay in Thailand.

Some of these are married men with Thai families, previously settled here for years.

If Immigration allowed consideration of assets owned in Thailand obtained by the previous incomes these expats have pored into the economy, they'd qualify x 10 fold, unfortunately they don't.

[Gipsy]

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The new requirements are likely the result of immigration officials trying to put an end to the practice of visa agents falsifying bank statements for foreigners who do not have enough money to meet the financial requirements needed for a retirement extension.

Dat zijn de banken niet maar visa "agenten" die foefelen. Ik heb gewoon een visa voor twintig jaar.Ik moet juist maken als mijn Belgisch paspoort vernieuwt ik hem terug laat stempelen aan de immigration de eerste keer dat ik terug ga.

[Eduard Khil]

Oorspronkelijk geplaatst door Lof der Zotheid

EUR 20,000 per jaar? Da's toch helemaal niet zoveel? Vanwaar al dat gezaag?

idd, is niet veel. Voor armoezaaiende dieven zoals bembem is dat natuurlijk al veel werk hé, om zoveel samen te stelen

[bembem]

Goh ja het is natuurlijk altijd slechts een peulschil tot ze het zelf moeten ophoesten

[Eyjafjallajökull]

Oorspronkelijk geplaatst door bembem

Goh ja het is natuurlijk altijd slechts een peulschil tot ze het zelf moeten ophoesten

Hoorde ik nu dat je aan het werk bent ??

[bembem]

Allez het begint

[Eduard Khil]

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Hoorde ik nu dat je aan het werk bent ??

[Eduard Khil]

Oorspronkelijk geplaatst door bembem

Allez het begint

ga terug naar uw eigen land

[Eyjafjallajökull]

Oorspronkelijk geplaatst door bembem

Allez het begint

Je gaat nog steeds door met je sociale fraude dus.

[bembem]

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Je gaat nog steeds door met je sociale fraude dus.

Yeah right

[maddox]

Oorspronkelijk geplaatst door Lof der Zotheid

EUR 20,000 per jaar? Da's toch helemaal niet zoveel? Vanwaar al dat gezaag?

€1667 per maand. Ginderachter een dik inkomen.

[Gipsy]

Oorspronkelijk geplaatst door maddox

€1667 per maand. Ginderachter een dik inkomen.

Je hoeft die 800.000 bath niet eens te betalen, gewoon 5 maand op een rekening van een Thaise bank houden. Daarna doe je ermee wat je wil. Het gezaag van Bembem is gewoon dat je dat vroeger maar 2 maand op de rekening hoefde te houden.

[Eduard Khil]

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Je hoeft die 800.000 bath niet eens te betalen, gewoon 5 maand op een rekening van een Thaise bank houden. Daarna doe je ermee wat je wil. Het gezaag van Bembem is gewoon dat je dat vroeger maar 2 maand op de rekening hoefde te houden.

idd. En niet per jaar hé. Gewoon, één keer. Drinkgeld dus, zoals ik zei.

Ze willen gewoon zeker zijn dat je geen schooier bent. Anders hebben ze de kans dat ze daar varen zoals wij hier: gedumpte koreanen in eigen land die naar hier vluchten om dan te stelen van onze winkeliers en te profiteren van ons sociaal systeem. Ze zijn slimmer dan wij in Thailand. Wij zouden die migranten ook gewoon terug moeten deporteren.

[Gipsy]

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idd. En niet per jaar hé. Gewoon, één keer. Drinkgeld dus, zoals ik zei.

Ze willen gewoon zeker zijn dat je geen schooier bent. Anders hebben ze de kans dat ze daar varen zoals wij hier: gedumpte koreanen in eigen land die naar hier vluchten om dan te stelen van onze winkeliers en te profiteren van ons sociaal systeem.

En bebloede preute of kontdoeken op het forum te zwieren. Ik heb daar nog een trauma van. Als ik een muis zie krijg ik een psychose dat ze gaat bloeden. En daarna kijk ik in de spiegel en ben een roodhuid.

[Pandareus]

Oorspronkelijk geplaatst door Eduard Khil

idd. En niet per jaar hé. Gewoon, één keer. Drinkgeld dus, zoals ik zei.

Ze willen gewoon zeker zijn dat je geen schooier bent. Anders hebben ze de kans dat ze daar varen zoals wij hier: gedumpte koreanen in eigen land die naar hier vluchten om dan te stelen van onze winkeliers en te profiteren van ons sociaal systeem. Ze zijn slimmer dan wij in Thailand. Wij zouden die migranten ook gewoon terug moeten deporteren.

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[bembem]

Ja lachen jullie maar... Anyway it's not me in trouble as I shall be going prepared.... Unlike these farangs now caught up in bureaucracy shit.....

I don't see why they can't keep the 800K rule for 3 months and then lower it to 400K for the remainder of the year so we can use OUR MONEY to live on as the system was designed. Holding 800K hostage for 6 months is pure lunacy. Most of my friends are leaving, they just can't keep 800K locked up for 6 months without being able to use at least some of it to live on. This is the most ridiculous visa rule I've ever seen living here 12 years full time on retirement visas. So they are PUNISHING EXPAT Retirees in an attempt to stop thier own malfeasance. Why not raise the visa costs, pay immigration staff a decent living wage, severely punish staff who abuse the system, arrest and imprison so called "visa agents" who try to bribe immigration staff.

Hello,

I do not see anywhere that we are talking about the "MIXED METHOD" about income, namely a deposit in fixed account of the difference between the 65,000 thb required monthly and the income actually collected. The amount thus fixed was blocked in a fixed account until the request for renewal of the annual visa. This is what I have been applying for more than 7 years ... without problem.

But now, with the new directives, what becomes of this "facility"? Is she still there? What are the new terms of its application, if still existing?

Unfortunately, many of us do not have more than 65,000 thb of monthly income ... and need this particularity to stay in Thailand.

Like many of us, the totality of our economy has gone into buying land and building a house ... So, more reserves available for this new "guarantee" required ...

Ook f farang are concerned like this one:

People forget the women who are affected by the change too. Last nigh I went for my walk along the foreshore, saw a little old lady sitting on the sea wall, weeping, a farang. I asked her if I may sit, she just nodded. I asked , whats up love. She said she had to leave soon and pointed at the sea. After a bit more chit chat , between the tears, some from me too, she told ;me her story. She has been living with her thai defacto for 20 years, has 4 children and 9 grand children. She has ;not the money to stay with the new regs. I asked why she hadnt married her thai bloke, halve the amount required, she said she cant marry again as her first husband had his legs blown off in the second world war and when he died 30 years ago she started getting a small, war widows pension. It stops if she marries again. She came to LOS on holidays, met the thai bloke and has been here ever since. Now, she has to leave her thai family and return to Oz, where she knows no one, her Oz family and friends all died out years ago. She never told her thai family she was going away forever, she made a vid telling them she loved them all and would be back soon. I asked when she was flying out, she said she wont be flying any where, and showed me a bottle of pills. I asked her to wait there for a minute or two, off I went to find a cop to see if they could do something about helping her. I couldnt find one, when I returned after an hour or so, she was gone.

Allemaal erg triest dat wel.... Maar tja, het is Thailand.... Like I said: "Rules can change there very fast." Yep, better be safe than sorry

[bembem]

Seems like quite a lot of them will have to miss out on their teerak(s), no more boom boom in Land of Smiles..... BooHooHooo

[bembem]

Hahahaha so funny! Yes, go home stupid farang.... ! Thailand no want you..... !! Ehehehehehe xD!

[Pandareus]

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Hahahaha so funny! Yes, go home stupid farang.... ! Thailand no want you..... !! Ehehehehehe xD!