Geruchten Tesla model Y, een middenklasse SUV

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Hoe rijden die model Y Made in Germany nu? (MIG)

Voorlopig nog enkel de Performance versie of de minst zuinige.

Bjorn Nyland deed de eerste doorgedreven testen onlangs bij 90 kmh en 120 kmh.

Rijbereik was verassend beter dan de long range model Y (2021) gemaakt in China (MIC), de uitleg hieronder:

https://insideevs.com/news/592937/te...nce-mig-range/

Watch This Tesla Model Y Performance From Germany Get Range Tested
According to Bjørn Nyland, it can go 510 km (317 miles) at 90 km/h (56 mph).

Jun 19, 2022 at 8:16pm ET By: Mark Kane

The latest Tesla Model Y Performance made in Germany (MIG) has been range tested by Bjørn Nyland, revealing outstanding efficiency and range results.

According to the video, the MIG Tesla Model Y Performance with 21" wheels, in dry conditions and at a temperature of 18-19°C, is one of the most efficient models in its class.

At 90 km/h (56 mph), the average energy consumption was just 146 Wh/km (235 Wh/mile), while at 120 km/h (75 mph) it was 205 Wh/km (330 Wh/mile).

Assuming the available battery capacity of about 74-74.4 kWh, Bjørn Nyland estimated that the range is 510 km (317 miles) at 90 km/h (56 mph) and 361 km (224 miles) at 120 km/h (75 mph) - once again, the highest level among crossover/SUV type of vehicles.

• 2022 Tesla Model Y Performance (MIG)

Results at 90 km/h (56 mph):
range of 510 km (317 miles)
energy consumption of 146 Wh/km (235 Wh/mile)
used battery capacity: 74.4 kWh (estimated)
temperature of 19°C
21" Pirelli P Zero (255/35-21)

Results at 120 km/h (75 mph); up 33% compared to 90 km/h:
range of 361 km (224 miles); down 29%
energy consumption of 205 Wh/km (330 Wh/mile); up 40%
used battery capacity: 74 kWh (estimated)
temperature of 18°C
21" Pirelli P Zero (275/35-21)

One of the surprises is that the new MIG Tesla Model Y Performance noted a slightly higher range than the previously tested Made-in-China (MIC) Tesla Model Y Long Range - despite it being heavier (2,100 kg vs. 2,060 kg) and having wider rear tires.

It might be related to some other factors, like the available battery capacity (estimated at 70 kWh at the time), type of tires, slightly different weather, etc. Nonetheless, it might also indicate general improvements applied to the Model Y. If true, the MIG Tesla Model Y Long Range AWD should have an even higher range, right?

• Here is the range result for the 2021 Tesla Model Y LR (MIC):

2021 Tesla Model Y LR (MIC); stock 19", caps on

Results at 90 km/h (56 mph):
range of 493 km (306 miles)
energy consumption of 142 Wh/km (228 Wh/mile)
used battery capacity: 70 kWh (estimated)
temperature of 20°C
19" Hankook evo3 (255/45-19)

Results at 120 km/h (75 mph); up 33% compared to 90 km/h:
range of 359 km (223 miles); down 27%
energy consumption of 195 Wh/km (314 Wh/mile); up 37%
used battery capacity: 70 kWh (estimated)
temperature of 18°C
19" Hankook evo3 (255/45-19)

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vervolg... en bij de 1000 km snellaadtest kon de MIG Model Y Performance zich bij de top 5 nestelen (geel).

De 1000 km werd in 9u45 afgelegd, inclusief 6 maal "kort" snelladen.

De details + filmpje via

https://insideevs.com/news/592975/mi...0km-challenge/

The made-in-Germany (MIG) Tesla Model Y Performance for the European market, offers state-of-the-art efficiency and range in its class, according to recent Bjørn Nyland tests.

After a pretty strong result in the range test of 510 km/317 miles at 90 km/h (56 mph), Bjørn Nyland's 1,000 km challenge proves also outstanding long-distance travel capabilities, related to the combination of range, efficiency, and fast charging.

According to the video, the MIG Tesla Model Y Performance completed the distance of 1,000 km (over 621 miles), at an average temperature of 20°C, in 9 hours and 45 minutes (after some time deductions), which is the same as the Made-in-China (MIC) Tesla Model Y Long Range AWD version in September 2021 (which was very quick also at 0°C).

During the challenge, the car was charged a total of six times along the way, (5-6 is a typical number of stops for the challenge) which means that after the initial 212 km (132 miles), the average distance between charging stops was 131 km (82 miles).

The 1,000 km challenge is a unique test, which expands our empirical knowledge about EVs and gives us glimpses of what is physically possible by an experienced driver in a country with dense DC fast charging infrastructure.

According to the car's computer, the average energy consumption was just 228 Wh/km (367 Wh/mile), which together with pretty good fast charging characteristics, was crucial to get under 10 hours.

Men ziet dat het verschil zomer <> winter nog nauwelijks 5 minuten uitmaakt op 1000 km.

Of lichtblauw balkje het 2021 Tesla model Y LR MIC getest bij gemiddeld 17°C en gemiddeld 0°C. Hier het verslag:

https://insideevs.com/news/581050/mi...hallenge-cold/

The Made-in-China (MIC) Tesla Model Y Long Range AWD version is one of the fastest cars in Bjørn Nyland's 1,000 Km challenge with a time of 9 hours and 45 minutes. This underlines its outstanding long-distance travel capabilities, related mainly to the range, efficiency and fast charging.

The result was achieved in September 2021, at an average temperature of 17°C. More recently, Bjørn Nyland checked the same car in colder weather conditions, at a temperature between -3 and +5°C (roughly 0°C on average).

The range of the MIC Tesla Model Y LR AWD decreases slightly with temperature, according to a separate test, but thanks to the software updates and unlocked fast charging capabilities, it seems that the challenge could be completed in a similar time.

According to the video, the MIC Tesla Model Y LR AWD completed the distance, at an average temperature of 0°C, in 9 hours and 50 minutes (after some time deductions). It's pretty significant.

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Vandaag reeds 370 Teslas ingeschreven in Noorwegen, waarvan 359 model Y.

(het dagrecord staat bij 386 model Y, 7 september 2021, model 3 haalde 551 de 26 maart 2019,)

https://teslastats.no/
Local time: 22:33:07 - Last update: 22:28:48
‹ Today: 370 ( 11 M3 / 359 MY )

Ook in Nederland lopen de aantallen nu langzaam op maar 100 per dag gaan die wslk niet meer halen.

records Noorwegen:

All time highest registration:
Model: Day Count | Month Count | Quarter Count
MS: 23.03.2015 219 | Dec.17 1,032 | 2014-Q1 6,581
M3: 26.03.2019 551 | Mar.19 5,315 | 2019-Q1 7,623
MX: 19.12.2017 156 | Dec.17 1,429 | 2017-Q4 2,397
MY: 07.09.2021 386 | Sep.21 3,563 | 2021-Q3 4,871

Tot: 26.03.2019 583 | Mar.19 5,828 | 2019-Q1 8,785

In 2019 verpulverd door Nederland, maar daar zijn zulke Tesla-aantallen verleden tijd, vandaag is er keuze uit +100 modellen...

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Oorspronkelijk geplaatst door Micele

Vandaag reeds 370 Teslas ingeschreven in Noorwegen, waarvan 359 model Y.

(het dagrecord staat bij 386 model Y,...)

Gisteren is toch het dagrecord model Y gebroken, is nu 396.

Registered 22.06.2022: 414 ( 18 M3 / 396 MY )
All time highest registration: MY: 22.06.2022 : 396

Tesla wordt mogelijk nog derde dit kwartaal als dit nog een week duurt, grafiek van 4 landen:

Best sellers for Q2 - 2022 (showing top 8), cumulative registrations by days. Countries: ES NL NO SE

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De laatste 5 dagen schreef Noorwegen 1.313 nieuwe Teslas in.
Niet slecht.

April-mei-juni haalt nu 2.322 Teslas, waarvan 1.186 wagens gemaakt in Berlijn, allemaal topversie model Y performance.

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Oorspronkelijk geplaatst door Micele

Gisteren is toch het dagrecord model Y gebroken, is nu 396.

Tesla wordt mogelijk nog derde dit kwartaal als dit nog een week duurt, grafiek van 4 landen:

Best sellers for Q2 - 2022 (showing top 8), cumulative registrations by days. Countries: ES NL NO SE

Tesla is al derde dit kwartaal en gaat verder met zijn remontada, zelfs 1e is nog zeker mogelijk, nog drie dagen. Momenteel gaat het weer richting 300 en meer in Noorwegen alleen, deze middag reeds bijna 100, gisteren 340

Registered 27.06.2022: 340 ( 19 M3 / 321 MY )
Last update 28.06.2022 : 13:12:33
‹ Today: 91 ( 8 M3 / 83 MY ) https://teslastats.no/

Komen er nog +1000 bij in vier landen (Noorwegen haalt dit mogelijk alleen, of ze geraken vandaag op...), dan staat Tesla alweer op 1. (remontade onderaan)

De laatste boot "MORNING PEACE" van dit kwartaal (5e boot voor Europa) meert deze namiddag nog aan in Southampton, die kwam 4 dagen geleden van Barcelona, de Spanjaarden gaan wslk ook ruim 1000 Teslas extra inschrijven in juni.

Voorlopige top 10 modellen dit kwartaal in 4 Countries: ES NL NO SE

Top models
MAKE MODEL #
TESLA MODEL Y 4708
VOLKSWAGEN ID.4 4629
SKODA ENYAQ 4521
KIA NIRO 3331
POLESTAR 2 2548
KIA EV6 2410
VOLVO XC40 2315
PEUGEOT E-208 2009
AUDI E-TRON 1776
BMW IX 1752
https://eu-evs.com/bestSellers/ALL_D...Quarter/2022/2

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Kwartaaleindsprint nu tussen VW, Kia en Tesla, enkel in vier landen ES-NL-NO-SE

De laatste dagen voor Noorwegen: gisteren slechts 78, vandaag 21 ingeschreven, de Chinese bootlevering via Zweden is bij de klant.

Spanje en Nederland gaan vandaag beslissen hoe het podium wordt, morgen of overmorgen weten we het.
(update NL:2022-06-29 / SP:2022-06-29)
Voorlopig-momenteel scheelt het nog maar een 60-tal wagens tussen 1 en 3

Best sellers for Q2 - 2022 Countries: ES NL NO SE
Top brands
MAKE # SHARE

1. VOLKSWAGEN: 6470 9.2%
2. KIA: 6426 9.1%
3. TESLA: 6407 9.1%

4. BMW: 5246 7.4%
5. SKODA: 4805 6.8%
https://eu-evs.com/bestSellers/ALL_D...Quarter/2022/2

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Gigafabriek Texas stijgt nu ook verder naar een productie van +1000 wagens per week, ook de model Y Long Range versie komt erbij.

Op het einde van het jaar hoopt men daar 10.000 wagens per week te maken. Als de vier fabrieken dat minstens halen, incl. Shanghai wslk het dubbele, dan maakt Tesla 2,5 miljoen wagens per jaar in 2023. (500k*3 + 1 milj China)

https://electrek.co/2022/06/29/tesla...del-y-version/

Tesla has managed to ramp up production at Gigafactory Texas to thousands of units per week, adding production of the Model Y Long Range on top of the Standard Range version.

The automaker is being secretive about data on its production ramp at Gigafactory Texas.

It is one of Tesla’s most important projects, as it invested billions of dollars in the giant factory, and it will not recoup that money until the plant reaches volume production.

After slowly starting production of the Model Y late in 2021, Tesla has been gradually ramping up and started deliveries of Texas-built Model Y vehicles in April.

The ramp up has been difficult as Tesla has been building the Model Ys at Gigafactory Texas with its new 4680 battery cell and structural battery pack, which have been the bottleneck.

Tesla has been aiming to produce 10,000 vehicles per week at the factory by the end of the year.

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Oorspronkelijk geplaatst door Micele

Kwartaaleindsprint nu tussen VW, Kia en Tesla, enkel in vier landen ES-NL-NO-SE

Spanje en Nederland gaan vandaag beslissen hoe het podium wordt, morgen of overmorgen weten we het.

Tesla wint de kwartaalsprint toch nog met een banddikte voorsprong op KIA, en een half wiel op VW.
Top 10

Top brands
MAKE # SHARE

1. TESLA 6.619 9% (gisteren 6.407)
2. KIA 6.594 9% (gisteren 6.426)
3. VOLKSWAGEN 6.541 8.9% (gisteren 6.470)

BMW 5.357 7.3%
SKODA 4.876 6.6%
AUDI 4.336 5.9%
PEUGEOT 4.204 5.7%
MERCEDES-BENZ 3.336 4.5%
MG 3.234 4.4%
HYUNDAI 3.133 4.3%
https://eu-evs.com/bestSellers/ALL_D...Quarter/2022/2

En dat met slechts 5 boten vanuit Shanghai die pas vanaf juni afgeladen werden.

Het waren vooral de 122 Nederlandse model Y die gisteren en eergisteren nog ingeschreven werden die Tesla deed winnen.

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Tesla leverde bijna verwachte 254.695 wagens uit dit kwartaal, dit was ruim 55k minder dan vorig kwartaal door de lockdown in China. (mijn schatting was amper -0,45% ernaast). Tesla verloor quasi een volle maand aan made-in-china-productie.

"On an apples-to-apples basis when factoring in the Giga Shanghai shutdown, we believe the line in the sand for deliveries is roughly 250k globally with anything above 260k viewed positively by the Street," the equity research firm said.

Cijfers: https://ir.tesla.com/press-release/t...second-quarter

(Model S/X was wel 1,5k beter dan vorig kwartaal, maar die worden enkel in Fremont gemaakt)

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Oei...Te traag en slechte kwaliteit, dus moet Tesla Grünheide tijdelijk dicht.

https://www.hln.be/autobedrijven/te-...stil~a4ecee29/

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Tesla model Y -made in Germany (2022) - krijgt een verrassend hoge score van • techpulse.be, zelfs een 9 op 10, of evenveel als hun laatste geteste model 3 (versie 2021)

Het is wel de zeer krachtige Performance-versie maar de Long Range komt binnenkort ook uit Duitsland.

En wie weet ook nog een standaard range instapversie (zoals aangeboden in China).

https://techpulse.be/review/342436/t...odel-y-review/
Tesla Model Y review: een Model 3 op hoge poten

Door Wouter Scholiers - Marijn Ceulemans -5 juli 2022

PRO
Ruime wagen, ideaal voor gezinnen en reizen
Heerlijk comfortabele stoelen
Ruime 'frunk' (koffer voorin)
Infotainment houdt je altijd bezig
CON
Glazen dak beschermt tegen UV, maar kan niet afgesloten worden
Achterkant oogt niet zo mooi
Kleine achterruit (camera's vangen dat wel op)

TOTALE SCORE: 9

• vroom.be heeft wel een Long Range getest in 2021 maar die werd gemaakt in China, wat allesbehalve slechtere punten gaf, zelfs zeer goed een 4,1 op 5.
vroom had helemaal geen opmerkingen over het glazen dak, en lijkt veel minder in de details te gaan.
Tech pulse had ook 2 testers en dubbel koopadvies.

Er zijn wel echt niet veel wagens die meer scoren dan een 4 bij vroom.be

https://www.vroom.be/nl/test/eerste-...-de-dop-22823/

Eerste test Tesla Model Y: bestseller in de dop?

De Tesla Model Y is al in het voorjaar van 2019 onthuld, maar komt pas nu naar Europa. Heeft die lange wachttijd ertoe geleid dat dit product tot in de puntjes ontwikkeld is?

VROOM-score : 4,1

Troubleyn Bert
09 september 2021

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Tesla model Y Standaard range heeft reeds de 4680 cellen (cell to body infrastructureel).
Kan als proefkonijn dienen voor verdere optimalisaties via updates, ze zijn sowieso voor te beginnen software-gelimiteerd.

Er zijn reeds eerste gemeten snellaadtesten sinds halweg juni. (+ video YT)

https://insideevs.com/news/592311/ne...4680-charging/

Tesla Model Y 4680 Standard Range Supercharging Test Impresses

While there are always many variables involved, this charging test suggests the new Model Y charges quite quickly.

Jun 15, 2022

Tesla has officially started delivering its new Model Y crossover that's produced in Texas with the 4680 battery cells and structural pack. As people begin to provide videos and articles about the car, we'll finally learn more about its real-world range and fast-charging capability. The video above from Spoken Reviews gives us one of the first looks at the new Model Y variant's range and charging.

We'll remind you upfront that there are many factors and variables involved when it comes to an EV's range and charging. Hopefully, we'll be able to get our hands on one of these new Model Y SUVs at InsideEVs sooner rather than later. This way, we can run our 70 mph real-world range test and a full charging curve analysis.

In the meantime, we'll be sharing what we learn about the new Model Y from owners and those who've had a chance to test it out. Tesla has provided very little information about the car, which is frustrating, but not surprising. Unlike other automakers, Tesla doesn't often provide all the details, and there's no one to reach out to with questions. We can only hope Elon Musk shares more details on Twitter.

We do know that the Model Y Standard Range AWD starts at $59,990. It offers 279 miles of EPA-estimated range and a 5-second zero-to-60-mph time.

Spoken Reviews attempted to figure out the Model Y's total energy capacity. He shares that the crossover accepted 59 kWh while charging from 9 percent to 97 percent. Some quick math puts the Model Y's usable battery capacity at around 66 kWh.

The channel estimates that the Texas-made Model Y has a total battery capacity of 75 kWh, and is software limited. The channel figures Tesla is hoping to keep people from dropping their Model Y Long Range orders by keeping the Standard Range model's range slightly limited.

At any rate, it appears based on the video above that the new Model Y variant has the potential to charge quite quickly. Spoken Reviews headed to a Tesla Supercharger to provide a quick look at a charging session, complete with a basic charging curve. The findings were as follows:

9 to 20 % in 3 minutes
9 to 39% in 6 minutes
9 to 50% in 12 minutes
9 to 80% in 34 minutes
9 to 90% in 40 minutes
9 to 97% in 50 minutes

The channel adds that charging to 80 percent in about 30 minutes is impressive. The Model Y's charging session topped out at 227 kW, which is less than that of the Model Y produced in Fremont with 2170 cells, which is capable of charging at up to 250 kW.

According to Electrek, Tesla may still push software updates to make improvements to the new Model Y's charging rate. With that said, let us know what you think after checking out the video above.

Source: Spoken Reviews (YouTube) via Electrek

De Cybertruck en Semi hebben dringend "heel veel" 4680 cellen nodig, eens ze weten wat ze echt aankunnen (zeker qua supercharging)

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Chinezen rijden met 2 model Y naar het basiskamp (5200 m hoogte) van de Mt Everest. (of Mount Qomolangma)

Dit vanuit Chengdu. Of 2.578 km.

Via de Tesla Supercharging Route 318, waarlangs ook de hoogst gelegen snellaadpalen liggen van de wereld, op 4.338 meter hoogte, de 2 laadpunten van 150 kW aldaar zijn wellicht de hoogste.

De neezeggers hadden alweer ongelijk.

https://www.teslarati.com/tesla-china-mount-everest/
Tesla China shares incredible video of a journey to Mount Everest in 2 Teslas

July 15, 2022

Tesla China shared a video of a journey to Mount Qomolangma (Mount Everest) in made-in-China Tesla vehicles. Mount Everest is the tallest mountain on Earth.

Trensen Chongqing, China Bridge Designer Travel Vlogger was able to successfully undertake this incredible journey even when his friends and family told him that it was impossible.

The Qomolangma National Nature Reserve is located in Tibet, China and covers both the Chinese/Tibetan side of Mount Everest. Known to many as Mount Everest, it’s known to the Chinese as Qomolangma which means “Mother Goddess of the Earth” in the Tibetan language.

GETTING TO MOUNT EVEREST IN AN ELECTRIC VEHICLE
“We just want to show only electric cars can get here.”

In the video titled, To Mount Qomolangma by Tesla, Trensen Chongqing, shared his adventure in a short video. The Tesla 318 Supercharging Route had recently been completed which thrilled him. He and his team set off on their adventure as soon as possible.

“But everyone thought I was losing my mind.”

Many naysayers told Chongqing that there was no way he could charge his car up there. It was too far. If it’s impossible for an internal combustible engine car, then surely it would be impossible for an EV. Someone even told him that there was no way he would make it and that they would buy him a month’s worth of hotpot if he made it.

CHONGQING ACCEPTED THE CHALLENGE.
“I love challenges.”

https://supercharge.info/data / China

Elevation (m)

Baiba, Tingri – Roof of the World Hotel, China | 318 National Highway
| Baiba Village, Xegeer/Shelkar, Tingri County | Tibet | China | 2 | 150 | 28.6397, 87.1799 | 4338 | OPEN | 2021-04-30| gmap / forum / tesla

De samenvattende korte video is echt de moeite, veel onverharde wegen natuurlijk, met de hoogste bergpassages van de wereld.

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Tesla model Y krijgt allerhoogste veiligheidscore bij de Euro NCAP testen, dit volgens het nieuw protocol.

Standaard rij-assistent zelfs 98%.
Volwassen inzittenden: 97%.

https://insideevs.com/news/608882/te...-safety-tests/

European Tesla Model Y Amazes In Euro NCAP Safety Tests

It achieved a "near-perfect" 98 percent result in the Safety Assist category.

Sep 07, 2022 By: Mark Kane

Euro NCAP has released results of safety tests of several new models, out of which many noted top 5-star ratings, but the Tesla Model Y "steals the show."

According to the report, the highly anticipated Made-in-Germany (MIG) Tesla Model Y "did not disappoint and shoots to the top of recently published five-star cars."

The biggest achievement for the European Tesla appears to be the near-perfect 98 percent result in the Safety Assist category, which puts to rest the doubts about camera-based safety systems. At the same time, Tesla achieved a 97 percent result in Adult Occupant Protection.

Results in the other two main categories - Child Occupant protection (87 percent) and Vulnerable Road Users protection (82 percent) were also pretty good.

Euro NCAP’s Secretary General, Michiel van Ratingen, said:

“...congratulations to Tesla for a truly outstanding, record-breaking Model Y rating. Tesla have shown that nothing but the best is good enough for them, and we hope to see them continue to aspire to that goal in the future.”

Directe link met resultaten:
https://www.euroncap.com/en/results/tesla/model-y/46618

Adult Occupant: 97%
Child Occupant: 87%
Vulnerable Road Users: 82%
Safety Assist: 98%



pdf: https://cdn.euroncap.com/media/70574...-datasheet.pdf

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Tesla model Y worden nu ook uitgeleverd in Japan, een zeer grote automarkt met zeer groot EV-potentieel, dit jaar quasi ontploft. Het Tesla model 3 kennen ze al een tijdje (2021), maar Japanners willen ook SUVs.

En vooral voor Tesla een zeer korte zeeweg vanuit Shanghai.

Prijzen tussen $46k (6,2 milj. Yen) en $60k.

Toyota begint al te zweten want dat is maar iets meer (~ $1.400) als Toyota vraagt voor zijn iets kleinere SUV bZ4X die vanaf 6 miljoen Yen begint. De instap Koreaanse SUVs zijn wel $10k goedkoper.

Japanese automakers in high gear to boost EV sales

Japanese automakers’ drive to tap the potentially lucrative electric vehicle market has swung into full gear as they are eager not to miss out on the global shift to electrification.

Along with storage battery development, Japanese companies are exercising ingenuity in crafting sales strategies.

**Setting EV prices is another major challenge for Japanese automakers.

Increasing the mileage per charge and winning the attention of drivers in Japan would push up storage battery costs, conflicting with any attempt to lower EV prices to put the vehicles into wider use.

Torn between the incompatible demands, in the early phase of EV market development in Japan, automakers chose to focus on luxury models, introducing high-priced, high-margin models for popular SUVs and billing them as their flagship EVs.

The reference price for Toyota’s bZ4X starts at ¥6 million, while the lowest price for Subaru’s Solterra, which was co-developed with Toyota and shares the chassis with the bZ4X, is ¥5.94 million. Both are priced higher than similar SUV models from other companies.

Nissan Motor released the Ariya, an electric SUV, in May with a price range from ¥5.39 million. The model features a high-quality interior and is equipped with newest driving assistance technologies, aiming to attract customers seeking an upscale touch.

South Korea’s Hyundai Motor started accepting orders for the Ioniq 5 electric SUV in Japan in May. With the minimum price set at ¥4.79 million, the Ioniq 5 is available only via the company’s online channel.

The automotive industry is seen to be in a once-in-a-century period of transformation due to the spread of auto sharing and young people’s lack of interest in owning or driving vehicles. Manufacturers are unlikely to survive the tough times unless they think outside the box in working out sales strategies.

Toyota, which decided to use the subscription channel, started out by bracing for trial and error. “We never know how the (new) business will develop until after we take a shot,” Executive Vice President Masahiko Maeda said.

https://www.teslarati.com/tesla-begi...l-ys-in-japan/

Tesla has begun delivering Model Ys to customers in Japan, Tesla Japan announced on Twitter. In June, Tesla opened up Model Y ordering for Australia and Japan. In Japan, the Model Y RWD starts at ¥6,190,000 ($46,156.97), and the Model Y Dual Motor AWD Performance costs ¥8,090,000 ($60,324.70). Tesla estimated that the delivery date was from August to September.

**...harde tijden voor bepaalde Japanse automerken... die te laat omgeschakeld zijn naar BEV... Enkel Nissan komt op tijd met zijn nieuwe Ariya, maar ook die is relatief duur vergeleken met de Koreanen.

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De model Y basis RWD wordt nu ook al een tijdje geleverd met de betere LFP-accucellen.

Maar vanaf ergens einde mei komen ze ook niet meer enkel van CATL maar ook van BYD, de zogezegd en design-gedaan strukturele BLADE cellen die zouden nog performanter zijn (meer kWh/kg en vooral temperatuurdesign)

Ondertussen komen deze basis Model Y RWD niet meer enkel uit China (MiC) maar ook uit Brandenburg (MiG). Dus Tesla Europa voert "die Blade-cellen" in vanuit China.

De performante en duurzame LFP-cellen in Blade-design zijn blijkbaar veel beter warmteafvoerend als men de snellaadkurve an CATL (62 kWh) met die BLADEs (60 kWh) vergelijkt.
Ondanks 2 kWh minder capaciteit zal men uiteindelijk sneller zijn op lange afstanden door het duidelijk snellere snelladen onderweg (zie rode kurve BLADE, waar 172 kW ! tot 50% lading aangehouden wordt...)

https://thedriven.io/2023/05/22/tesl...harging-times/

Tesla’s switch to BYD batteries is achieving faster charging times

MAY 22, 2023

Tesla has started using BYD blade batteries for the Model Y electric crossovers produced at the Berlin g17igafactory, resulting in a significant increase in charging speeds.

Until recently, another Chinese battery maker CATL was the sole supplier of batteries for the Model Y in Europe, but in early May it was reported that Tesla had started using BYD as a second supplier.

Data posted on the German forum Tesla Fahrer und Freunde shows that the Model Y with the BYD blade battery maintains peak charging speeds well above the CATL version.



MODEL Y CHARGING SPEED COMPARISON BETWEEN BYD AND CATL BATTERIES. EVISSA VIA TFF

Both the BYD blade battery and CATL’s Kirin battery are lithium iron phosphate (LFP) however the BYD battery is able to charge at at a higher speed for the entire duration of charging.

Notebook Check says that Model Y owners with the new BYD battery packs were able to maintain peak 172 kW charging speeds until the battery is 50% charged before tapering off.

“The Model Y with 62 kWh CATL battery, on the other hand, wasn’t able to maintain 172 kW charging speeds, and dropped off almost immediately, gradually reaching 50 kW at the 90% mark.” said Notebook Check.

BYD’s blade battery, which is used in BYD’s Tang SUV, Han and Atto 3 models, was first announced in 2020. BYD says higher charging speeds don’t impact the longevity of the battery.

“The Blade Battery tops 1.2 million km after 3,000 cycles of charging / discharging, while headline performance figures for the Blade Battery-powered BYD Tang include a single-charge range of 505km (NEDC) and acceleration from 0-100 km/h in just 4.6-seconds,” says BYD.

“The BYD Tang’s Blade Battery installation recharges from 30% to 80% of full capacity in an impressively short 30-minutes, with DC power output of 110kW.”

Video: "Inside BYD's ultra-safe Blade Battery factory

World’s number 1 and 2 EV makers working together

In March Tesla CEO Elon Musk denied a media report saying Tesla is ending cooperation with BYD on battery supply.

“That media report is false. Relations between Tesla and BYD are positive.”

The two EV makers are way ahead of their rivals in production volume however that hasn’t stopped them from working together to make further improvements.

Battle of the batteries not over yet

Although the BYD battery is showing some significant improvements, CATL’s new MP3 battery, which will go into production this year, may up the stakes.

CATL says the M3P battery which is based on new materials technology, will have a greater energy density and perform better than its lithium-ion phosphate batteries. The M3P battery is similar to the improved LFP battery chemistry but with added manganese.

Notebook Check says that GAC, maker of the first 620 mile (998 km) range SUV, uses manganese LFP technology (what it calls the SmLFP battery) that can charge up to twice as fast as the LPF packs now used in Tesla Model 3 and Model Y as well as higher energy density and better performance in cold climates.

CATL’s M3P battery may increase performance even further.

“While little is known about CATL’s exact M3P battery specs, insider sources have revealed that the cells have higher energy density than LMFP batteries while providing similar longevity and charging speed improvements.” says Notebook Check.

With battery technology developing at lightning speed, we’ll no doubt be seeing huge improvements to energy density, charging speeds and longevity in the coming years with profound impacts on the global automotive industry.

As Tony Seba said in his recent podcast interview with The Driven. “Soon enough you’re gonna see million mile EVs. And what that means is that over 10 years you’re going to need just one EV for 10 petrol cars,”

“Either way, it’s pretty much over for internal combustion engine.”

Andere link: praktijktest Duitsland: 60% capaciteit bijladen in 15 minuten:

https://carnewschina.com/2023/05/22/...apidly%20drops.

Some users in Germany already tested this car and shared interesting statistics. It has appeared that the Tesla Model Y with a BYD battery can maintain the 170-kW charging power. So it is available to charge 11% – 71% in 15 minutes. For a comparison, the Model Y with a CATL battery has the same performance in the early stages of the charging process, but then it rapidly drops. Speaking about the LFP battery, its charging power drops only after the battery is charged 50%. So, in terms of charging, the Tesla Model Y with a BYD’s battery is better than the one with a CATL’s variant.

Als ik de momentele inschrijvingscijfers van enkel Noorwegen bekijk (want daar zie ik direct van waar de Model Y komen), tel ik momenteel 110 RWDs made in Germany. Dus die zouden zeker alle die BLADEs hebben. Bij de 1.736 van Made in China is het allemaal CATL neem ik aan.

Model 3 - Total: 40.164

Model Y - Total: 41.093

CN-RWD : 1.736
DE-RWD : 110
https://teslastats.no/

In Noorwegen rijden nu ook meer model Y (+41k) dan model 3 zie ik , dit moet een week geleden gebeurd zijn.