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Banneling
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![]() Do you punish the human in the grave?
Guided you God of Islam and explain your hearts to the right before it is too late and that convert to Islam, your will as did members of Alakharinfem now feel happy to untold I feel now, including hair of the Prophet Muhammad peace be upon him since 1432 in Shahu was sad on the infidels who did not enter Islam and grow up on God because they Sasibam suffering, the grave and the next went down the revelation came Jibreel to the Prophet Muhammad told him Eayat God and reduce him and said, ((6) Then perhaps you would kill yourself through grief over them, [O Muhammad], if they do not believe in this message, [and ] out of sorrow ( The words of Allaah ((21) So remind, [O Muhammad]; you are only a reminder (22) You are not over them a controller (23) However, he who turns away and disbelieves (24) Then Allah will punish him with the greatest punishment (25) Indeed, to Us is their return (26) Then indeed, upon Us is their account ( Torment of the grave should be right to be wary of him and even prepare for this most important stage of our lives, and unfortunately there are those who question the truth in this .... Some researchers have denied the punishment of the grave on the grounds that it did not appear in the Koran, the Hadith in the right-Bukhari and Muslim have denied these grounds that they violate the Koran, what is the truth of the matter? Dear beloved! Above all we would like to ask the question: Is there one verse in the Quran says that man is not punished in the grave, of course, the infidel, and not insured? Of course, there are no such verses but there are many verses confirm and prove the torment of the grave. Verses prove torment of the grave There is a verse confirms that the infidels are being tortured in the grave and see the fire in the morning and evening, as is the case with Pharaoh and his soldiers, the Almighty says: ((45) So Allah protected him from the evils they plotted, and the people of Pharaoh were enveloped by the worst of punishment * fire offer by noon a day and evening and admitted to the time of Pharaoh the most torment) [forgiving: 45-46]. The next day and evening, particularly this world, and the torment of the Hereafter, either permanent or permanent Naim. Therefore, the Pharaoh's offering to the fire in the morning and evening, is not this a form of punishment in the grave? Verses prove torment the moment of death There are verses confirm that the torment begins from the moment of death, since the angels die This is the infidel, and therefore God says: ((50) And if you could but see when the angels take the souls of those who disbelieved ... They are striking their faces and their backs and [saying], "Taste the punishment of the Burning Fire. Add new comment) [Anfal: 50]. and here we find that the angels of death who caught the spirit of this infidel may beat him and tortured him and then say to him: (and Taste the torment of the fire) any punishment of the grave and the torment of the Hereafter. The angels of death come to the infidel Vtdharbh form a painful and this kind of torment before the torment of the grave, so God says: ((27) Then how [will it be] when the angels take them in death, striking their faces and their backs) [Mohammad : 27]. There is a verse confirms that the infidel see torment the moment of death, therefore, request the Lord to bring him back to this world, so God says: ((99) [For such is the state of the disbelievers], until, when death comes to one of them, he says, " My Lord, send me bac (100) That I might do righteousness in that which I left behind. "No! It is only a word he is saying; and behind them is a barrier until the Day they are resurrected) [Believers: 99-100], and the question: Why ask the infidels refer to the minimum? when they see the torment, of course, know the truth, and they know that God is right, and that the torment of the Fire became a reality, so asking to return to this world to do good works, but it is impossible. ... If the phenomenon of death go unnoticed if asked why they return to this world?! Therefore, Allah says in the verse again: (and spend of what We have provided you before that comes one of you die says the Lord not for Okhrtina to order soon Vosedk and I was of the righteous * (11) But never will Allah delay a soul when its time has come. And Allah is Acquainted with what you do.) [hypocrites: 10-11]. To be sure, death is not a picnic or stage of sleep where the rights or lose consciousness! It is the stage of suffering or Naim, so always ask the infidel to return to this world because he sees suffering from the moment of death, imagine what awaits him after death! Verses confirm the infidel dialogue with the angels of punishment There are verses confirm the existence of a dialogue between the infidel and the angels of punishment for the moment of death, and we find that the verses are always talking about punishment after death, for example Think of me this verse, Allah says: ((97) Indeed, those whom the angels take [in death] while wronging themselves - [the angels] will say, "In what [condition] were you?" They will say, "We were oppressed in the land." The angels will say, "Was not the earth of All h spacious [enough] for you to emigrate therein? "For those, their refuge is Hell - and evil it is as a destination.) [women: 97]. No one denies the punishment of the grave The one who contemplates the verses of the Koran teaches that there is no verse in the Koran denies the punishment of the grave only one verse of a suspect on the other, the Almighty says: (They said: 'Alas for the sending from Mrkdna this promise Rahman and certified dispatchers) [Yassin: 52], and the explanation is: that man in his grave tortures himself that tasted death, but the flesh is in the case of sleep, and when Allaah raises him from his grave, he realizes that the Day of Resurrection, right, and that the punishment will be the soul and body together and that God will replace his skin as maturity, as the Almighty said: ((56) Indeed, those who disbelieve in Our verses - We will drive them into a Fire. Every time their skins are roasted through We will replace them with other skins so they may taste the punishment. Indeed, All h is ever Exalted in Might and Wise) [women: 56]. Hard Qur'anic and logical that the grave is either the gardens of Paradise, or piece of fire, and say both deny the punishment of the grave, if not convinced by these verses clear this is your problem, not the problem of the Qur'an, Qur'an which explains everything, but only to look and ponder and reflect on. Talk show torment of the grave There are dozens of conversations correct and that do not Agehdha only arrogant confirm the torment of the grave, and even ordered to seek refuge from the torment of the grave, it was narrated from Abu Hurayrah, may Allah be pleased with him that the Messenger of Allah peace be upon him said: (If you completed one of you tashahhud others seek refuge with Allah from four of the torment Hell, the torment of the grave and the trials of life and death and evil of the Antichrist) [Narrated by Muslim] ... There is much talk confirms that the infidel tortured in his grave, and the believer enjoys in his grave. We say: If the infidel who has committed sins and immorality and injustice of the people and eat the rights of others ... If this does not punish the infidel in his grave, Will is in flight entertainment, even the time? We also say that the body of the infidel wear out and exhausted, but the soul is tormented, but the same insured Vtassad to the Creator to enjoy and is preparing to enter the Paradise on the Day of Resurrection, and the Almighty said: ((27) [To the righteous it will be said], "O reassured soul (28) Return to your Lord, well-pleased and pleasing [to Him] (29) And enter among My [righteous] servant * and go in Committees) [Fajr: 27-30]. Finally I say, my brothers and sisters,. In the book of God many of the verses is not absorbed by the human mind, like the miracles of the prophets ... May Allah (SWT) to Prophet Solomon peace be upon the jinn and devils and the wind carried his command ... And split the moon to Prophet Muhammad peace be upon him ... And Allaah saved Abraham peace be upon him from the fire and the law of combustion malfunction ... All of this can not be explained by the laws of physics and the universe, but we as Muslims are seeing that everything that came in the Book of Allah and the Messenger of Allah is true is the truth, and the human mind is very limited. The denial of some of the conversations the right leads to the denial of some verses of the Koran on the grounds that they violate the mind ... The Glory of God, if some Western scientists atheists say that we do not discover the secrets of the universe is very little, what do not we should we Muslims have to respect the hadeeth of the Messenger of God peace be upon him, and say, as he says: (85. And they ask you (O Muhammad) concerning the Ruh (the Spirit); Say: "The Ruh (the Spirit): it is one of the things, the knowledge of which is only with my Lord. And of knowledge, you (mankind) have been given only a little.") Isra: 85]. and the rest of the interview |
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![]() Wil zich niet eens in onze taal uiten maar komt ons wel de les spellen.
Niet iedereen is meertalig en dat is zeker geen schande. Dus op een Nederlandstalig platform in een andere taal posten getuigt van gebrek aan respect. Zeker wanneer je dit koppelt aan de snieren die je hier maar al te regelmatig leest aan het adres van mensen die niet meertalig zijn...
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CLAESSENS Joris ![]() Na de nodige intimidatie om deze uitspraak niet te herhalen; "Allah is een verzinsel, Mohammed is de leugenaar die hem verzon. Mohammed is ook een massamoordenaar, terrorist en pedofiele kinderverkrachter ![]() Bron: de koran. |
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![]() Eet meer Allah vlees zoals de varkens ook doen......
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![]() Het is de normale bekeringsijver van een Mohammedaan. Noemen ze da'wa. Zo, weer wat geleerd.
Het vaste stramien is: eerst de suikerversie van de Islam brengen. dan, als dat niet aanslaat aankomen met angstaanjagende zaken voor als je niet.... En als dat niet helpt, dan is er nog altijd het zwaard. Bovenstaand verhaal valt dus in het tussenstadium bij deze da'wa beoefenaar. Nog even een kanttekening: het zijn niet alleen ongelovigen die de "Martelingen van het Graf" zullen ondergaan, ook al die Mohammedanen die zich verkeerd gedragen hebben, ondergaan dit. Afhankelijk van de soort/mate van gelovigheid kan dit al het geval zijn als je een keertje niet de gymnastische oefeningen met begeleidende mantra's (noemen ze bidden) op tijd hebt gedaan een keertje. |
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![]() Fresco prove torment of Mohammed in the grave
Fresco prove torment of Mohammed the moment of death Men is verwittigd nu!
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![]() Welk lot staat de 'zielen' van de Amerikaanse Indianen van vóór - en ook wel een beetje van ná - de tijd van Christoffel Columbus te wachten?
Waarover mogen de 'zielen' van de door Julius Caesar uitgeroeide volkeren en de Tasmaniërs zich verheugen/zich voor eeuwig de haren van de kop rukken? Hoe komt het dat de in ontucht en zonde levende Inuit zo lang hebben moeten wachten op een vermaning van den Here? Vonden Yahweh, God en/of Allah het niet de moeite deze mensen hun eigen 'Profeet' te sturen? Waren die mensen goed bezig en hadden ze derhalve geen 'Openbaring' nodig? Of waren ze reeds van bij voorbaat tot 'de Hel' verdoemd, en spelen Yahweh, God en/of Allah graag spelletjes? Waarom spraken Yahweh, God en/of Allah alléén maar enkele Semitische talen (Hebreeuws, Aramees en Arabisch), en niet bijvoorbeeld Engels, Russisch, Hindi en Chinees (talen waarvan Yahweh, God en/of Allah toch hadden moeten kunnen voorzien dat die ooit door véél méér mensen begrepen zouden worden)?
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![]() Maar hoe zit het dan met de zich via de respectievelijk Aramees en Arabisch sprekende 'profeten' Jezus en Mohammed openbarende 'God' en 'Allah'? 2) Hebben die ook eigen 'profeten' en 'heilige boeken'? 3) Ik stel mij eerder de vraag waarom Europeanen zo nodig welke 'god' dan ook moeten opvrijen. Is dat ook OK?
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Zolang er geen nazaten van komen.
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Ik kan me écht niet van de indruk ontdoen dat sommige concepten en daaruit voortvloeiende praktijken wel dégelijk - soms zelfs fundamentéél - van elkaar verschillen. De concepten en de praktijken van pakweg "Tao" kan ik niet 'dezelfde' noemen als de concepten en de praktijken van pakweg "Rome". Het is evenwel niet uitgesloten dat mijn kennis betreffende deze materie gewoon ontoereikend is. Ik blijf echter altijd tot bijleren bereid.
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![]() Een lid van dit forum zei ooit dat mensen van verschillende religies elkaar doorgaans niet vinden in de "theologie", maar wel in de spirituele ervaring. Het mediteren waard...
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Want ik zie hier echt niet genoeg inkeer en bekering gebeuren... ![]() ![]()
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It ought to punish any person who speaks bad verbal or picture the Holy Qur'an and Prophet Muhammad peace be upon him Because it is from God God says in the Holy Qur'an (33) Indeed, the penalty for those who wage war against Allah and His Messenger and strive upon earth [to cause] corruption is none but that they be killed or crucified or that their hands and feet be cut off from opposite sides or that they be exiled from the land. That is for them a disgrace in this world; and for them in the Hereafter is a great punishment, (34) Except for those who return [repenting] before you apprehend them. And know that Allah is Forgiving and Merciful. (33) Maar de belooning van hen die tegen God en zijn apostel strijden, en er op bedacht zijn, op aarde slecht te handelen, zal wezen, dat zij gedood zullen worden, of gekruisigd, of dat hunne voeten aan de tegenovergestelde zijden zullen worden afgesneden of dat zij uit het land zullen worden gebannen. Dit zal hunne ongenade in deze wereld zijn, en in de volgende zullen zij een strenge straf ondergaan, (34) Behalve zij, die berouw zullen gevoelen, alvorens gij hen in uwe macht hebt; want weet, dat God vergevingsgezind en genadig is. Talk about the extent of the limits of God, and put Sharia means the process of criminal crucial during her talk about the limits of Allah Almighty, as in this verse, in order to maintain security and prevent the evil souls of the rush away from Noazaaha own deviant, which pushes toward killing and looting, banditry and scheming of Islam and Muslims, and spread chaos and destruction, and corruption in the lives of the people, and so on ... To clarify the issue for the punishment of Allah and His Messenger |
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Muslim who commits mistakes Alternating also in the grave But Not like the infidel and an atheist, God So The Muslim must adhere to the teachings of Islam And its correct application Sayyidina Anas (RA) reported that Allahs Messenger (peace be upon him) often said: "O Turner of hearts, keep my heart steadfast on Your religion. So, Anas (RA) asked, We have believed in you and what you have brought. Are you apprehensive about us? He said, Yes hearts are, surely, between two of the fingers of Allah. He may turn them as He will. Tirmidhi 35- BOOK ON DECREE AND PREDESTINATION (2147 |
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