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Oud 24 januari 2012, 14:16   #1
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He returned Moses to Egypt, and told his brother Aaron, what happened between him and God - the Almighty - for shares in the delivery of the message to Pharaoh and his people, and assisted in the output of the Children of Israel from Egypt, rejoiced Aaron do so, and take calls with Moses and shared in the publication of the invitation.
Pharaoh was very oppression and injustice, so he headed for Beni Israel, Moses, Aaron
- Peace be upon them both - to invite him Rabhma that Enqzhma from the tyranny of Pharaoh. Said to them, God assured and installed: ((42) Go, you and your brother, with My signs and do not slacken in My remembrance
(43) Go, both of you, to Pharaoh. Indeed, he has transgressed.
(44) And speak to him with gentle speech that perhaps he may be reminded or fear [ Allah ]."
(45) They said, "Our Lord, indeed we are afraid that he will hasten [punishment] against us or that he will transgress."
(46) [ Allah ] said, "Fear not. Indeed, I am with you both; I hear and I see.
(47) So go to him and say, 'Indeed, we are messengers of your Lord, so send with us the Children of Israel and do not torment them. We have come to you with a sign from your Lord. And peace will be upon he who follows the guidance.
(48) Indeed, it has been revealed to us that the punishment will be upon whoever denies and turns away.' " )
[Taha 46-48].

When Moses went with his brother Aaron to Pharaoh, they invited him to God, and directed the children of Israel with them, but Pharaoh claimed the mocking them, and ridicules them, and which came by, said Moses, that he is the one who raised him in his palace has been sponsored by until he killed the Egyptian and fled, and he told Moses to God had guided him and made him a prophet, to call him to worship God and obey him, but Pharaoh did not respond to him, introduced by Moses to come to him the evidence shows his sincerity of his message. Pharaoh asked his guide if he is sincere, Moses threw his rod turned to a live big, afraid and panicked people of this serpent, Moses stretched forth his hand and took her she went back to a stick as it was. And then enter his hand in the pocket of his shirt and remove it if white is whiter than white.

But Pharaoh declares in his people that Moses a magician, he noted the elite that combines magicians from all over the face of Moses and his magic, to be the meeting day decorations, and this was a day of rejoicing Pharaoh and his people, where he will meet all the people, in the open space before the palace of Pharaoh to celebrate .
Pharaoh was quick to declare the date for all people, to witness this day, and wrote to all the witches preparing to prepare for that day .. Then came the day expected, and raced people brought to the debate, to see who the victor; Moses or witches?
Before we leave Pharaoh to Moses met with the witches, and took Ergbhm and prompting them great hopes as they win against Moses and his brother, and they excelled, and was coveted as magicians when the Pharaoh of the pay and status.
Moments later came out of Pharaoh and his successor, witches brought to the debate, and then sat in the place prepared for him and his entourage, and stop the witches before Moses and Aaron
- Peace be upon them both, and -.
Then raise the hand of Pharaoh marked the beginning of the debate. And display the magicians against Moses one of two things; either to throw his stick first, or throw their rods first. He left them to Moses the beginning.

He threw witches their ropes and their rods, Vshroa people's eyes, and turned all the ropes and disobedience to the lives of seeking and moving before the eyes of those present, afraid of people from the horror of what they see before them, even Moses and Aaron - peace be upon them - Osabhma fear, revealed to God to Moses, not to hide and cast his rod, Vatmon Moses and his brother to the command of God, and then threw his stick and turned to swallow a live great magicians ropes and their rods. When he saw the witch knew it a miracle of God, not magic, God explained the chests of faith in God and believe what came by Moses, they worshiped the One God, declaring their faith in the Lord of Moses and Aaron.

Here are intensified and took Pharaoh's wrath threatens the magicians, and say to them ((65) They said, "O Moses, either you throw or we will be the first to throw."
(66) He said, "Rather, you throw." And suddenly their ropes and staffs seemed to him from their magic that they were moving [like snakes].
(67) And he sensed within himself apprehension, did Moses.
(68) Allah said, "Fear not. Indeed, it is you who are superior.
(69) And throw what is in your right hand; it will swallow up what they have crafted. What they have crafted is but the trick of a magician, and the magician will not succeed wherever he is."
(70) So the magicians fell down in prostration. They said, "We have believed in the Lord of Aaron and Moses."
(71) [Pharaoh] said, "You believed him before I gave you permission. Indeed, he is your leader who has taught you magic. So I will surely cut off your hands and your feet on opposite sides, and I will crucify you on the trunks of palm trees, and you will surely know which of us is more severe in [giving] punishment and more enduring." ) [Taha, 71].

But the magicians did not fear was not dismayed by his words and his threats, after that enter God in their hearts the light of truth and faith, they said: ((72) They said, "Never will we prefer you over what has come to us of clear proofs and [over] He who created us. So decree whatever you are to decree. You can only decree for this worldly life
(73) Indeed, we have believed in our Lord that He may forgive us our sins and what you compelled us [to do] of magic. And Allah is better and more enduring."
(74) Indeed, whoever comes to his Lord as a criminal - indeed, for him is Hell; he will neither die therein nor live.
(75) But whoever comes to Him as a believer having done righteous deeds - for those will be the highest degrees [in position]:
(76) Gardens of perpetual residence beneath which rivers flow, wherein they abide eternally. And that is the reward of one who purifies himself. ) [Taha: 72 - 76].

Angry Pharaoh's anger, and took Misguided of his people Ihradwnh to Moses and the children of Israel, issued a Pharaoh ordered his soldiers to kill people who believe the children of Israel, and let the women, and was able to Pharaoh of these threats to intimidate the weak and those in whose hearts is a disease of people of Moses, did not believe in fear and the wrath of Pharaoh, and even those who believe not escaped completely from the fear and dread of Pharaoh.
When Moses saw what happened to his people from fear and panic, he went to God to save him the du'aa and believers of Kidd Pharaoh.

And took Pharaoh's thinking of a trick to get rid of Moses, and one day raise his aides and his clan, and declared to them what he found, is to kill Moses.
After he said that, if a man of his people and his clan have believed Moses secretly says to him: (28. And a believing man of Fir'aun's (Pharaoh) family, who hid his faith said: "Would you kill a man because he says: My Lord is Allah, and he has come to you with clear signs (proofs) from your Lord? And if he is a liar, upon him will be (the sin of) his lie; but if he is telling the truth, then some of that (calamity) wherewith he threatens you will befall on you." Verily, Allah guides not one who is a Musrif (a polytheist, or a murderer who shed blood without a right, or those who commit great sins, oppressor, transgressor), a liar!
29. "O my people! Yours is the kingdom this day, you are uppermost in the land. But who will save us from the Torment of Allah, should it befall us?" Fir'aun (Pharaoh) said: "I show you only that which I see (correct), and I guide you only to the path of right policy!"
30. And he who believed said: "O my people! Verily, I fear for you a fate like that day (of disaster) of the Confederates (of old)!
31. "Like the fate of the people of Nuh (Noah), and 'Ad, and Thamud and those who came after them. And Allah wills no injustice for (His) slaves.
32. "And, O my people! Verily! I fear for you the Day when there will be mutual calling (between the people of Hell and of Paradise)."
33. A Day when you will turn your backs and flee having no protector from Allah, And whomsoever Allah sends astray, for him there is no guide.
) [forgiving: 28], and then take calls on Egyptians to believe in God and warn them of the torment. Pharaoh turned away from him and did not listen to his advice.weten ze niet en de rest van het interview
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Oud 24 januari 2012, 15:06   #3
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(quote)weten ze niet en de rest van het interview (unquote)

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Oud 25 januari 2012, 12:00   #4
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Gast, serieus. Dit is al de derde topic met exact hetzelfde onderwerp. En niemand is geïnteresseerd. Hou die dwaze sprookjes voor uzelf. U ziet toch ook dat niemand anders een topic opent met als titel: "Sneeuwwitje en De kleine Zeemeermin, vrede zij met hen*********". En post dit 3 keer met exact dezelfde inhoud?
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Oud 25 januari 2012, 12:07   #5
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Gast, serieus. Dit is al de derde topic met exact hetzelfde onderwerp. En niemand is geïnteresseerd. Hou die dwaze sprookjes voor uzelf. U ziet toch ook dat niemand anders een topic opent met als titel: "Sneeuwwitje en De kleine Zeemeermin, vrede zij met hen*********". En post dit 3 keer met exact dezelfde inhoud?
Pharaoh turned away from him and did not listen to his advice.
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Oud 25 januari 2012, 12:18   #6
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Pharaoh turned away from him and did not listen to his advice.
Je gaat me nu toch niet vertellen dat hij dit nu 10 keer gaat herhalen hé? Als een soort 10 plagen van Revoleto.
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Pharaoh turned away from him and did not listen to his advice.
Tja, volgens recent Israëlisch historisch en archeologisch onderzoek zijn de Joden nooit in Egypte geweest.
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Oud 25 januari 2012, 16:38   #8
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(quote)weten ze niet en de rest van het interview (unquote)

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Oud 26 januari 2012, 18:40   #9
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gerespecteerd lid

Ik ben tot uw dienst voor elke vraag

God geleid je tot de islam
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gerespecteerd lid

Ik ben tot uw dienst voor elke vraag

God geleid je tot de islam
iemand die van zichzelf beweert dat hij elke vraag kan beantwoorden, vertrouw ik niet zo hard.

allahu alim. alleen god weet alle antwoorden.

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iemand die van zichzelf beweert dat hij elke vraag kan beantwoorden, vertrouw ik niet zo hard.

allahu alim. alleen god weet alle antwoorden.

vrede,

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Kijk revoleto. Dit is nu een moslim dat ik kan appreciëren. Met deze persoon kan je tenminste een deftige conversatie voeren, en hij heeft niet die überirritante bekeringsdrang zoals u, of die vrouw-onvriendelijke ideëen zoals Moslim!. Ook Suqar kan als voorbeeld voor u dienen.
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vrede,



iemand die van zichzelf beweert dat hij elke vraag kan beantwoorden, vertrouw ik niet zo hard.

allahu alim. alleen god weet alle antwoorden.

vrede,

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My dear brother

I am talking about the verdicts of Islamic
All answers in
Holy Qur'an and the Hadith

Religion for all people
It's not personal
Why are you angry?
On the contrary,
I respect you
And I love listening to you always

God guided you to Islam
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iemand die van zichzelf beweert dat hij elke vraag kan beantwoorden, vertrouw ik niet zo hard.

allahu alim. alleen god weet alle antwoorden.
Iemand die beweert, zonder ook maar één aanwijzing daarvoor, dat zijn god alle antwoorden kent, vertrouw ik al evenmin.
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My dear brother
I feel you are very confused
allah says in the Holy Qur'an
255. Allah! La ilaha illa Huwa (none has the right to be worshipped but He), the Ever Living, the One Who sustains and protects all that exists. Neither slumber, nor sleep overtake Him. To Him belongs whatever is in the heavens and whatever is on earth. Who is he that can intercede with Him except with His Permission? He knows what happens to them (His creatures) in this world, and what will happen to them in the Hereafter . And they will never compass anything of His Knowledge except that which He wills. His Kursi extends over the heavens and the earth, and He feels no fatigue in guarding and preserving them. And He is the Most High, the Most Great. [This Verse:255 is called Ayat-ul-Kursi.]
I hope to guide you from allah
allah guided you to Islam
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