Al Qaeda leider geeft zichzelf aan onder amnestievoorstel

[Pascal L.]

Een van de leiders van Al Quaeda geeft zichzelf aan om van de doodstraf gespaard te blijven (onder het amnestievoorstel van de Saoudische regering). Eens te meer laten de terroristen-leiders weer eens blijken dat ze angst hebben om zelf te sterven, maar zonder scrupules hun volgelingen de dood injagen. Wat is't Abu, had ge nog geen zin in uw 70 maagden?
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Senior bin Laden associate Abu Suleiman al-Makki has turned himself into Saudi authorities under month-long royal amnesty offered June 23. Al-Makki - disabled sheik who appeared in videotape with al Qaeda leader found in Afghanistan - contacted Saudi embassy in Tehran from hideout on Iran-Afghan border. He is fourth al Qaeda terrorist to surrender under amnesty.

www.debka.com

[Rock Against Communism]

volgens mij zijn dit fundi's die om een of andere reden hun geloof verloren. De meesten zijn immers niet bevreesd te sterven aangezien het een heldendaad is en je er persoonlijke eer en genoegen mee kan verdienen in het hiernamaals. Dat geloof is er zo diep ingeramd bij die mensen, en als dat begint te verwateren zal ook de vurige wens om zich te offeren verdwijnen...

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Ah, die goeie ouwe Debka, bestaat er op het Web een nog grotere propaganda bron ?

Hun verhalen over de geweldige hoeveelheden massavernietigingswapens die in enorme bunkers onder Bagdad zouden zijn opgeslagen vond ik wel de max. Net zoals hun scope al zouden er 30.000 Iraakse overzeese terroristen klaar hebben gestaan om alles en iederen te bestoken met sporen van Anthracis Bacillus. ...

[Pascal L.]

Oorspronkelijk geplaatst door /\|cazar

Ah, die goeie ouwe Debka, bestaat er op het Web een nog grotere propaganda bron ?

Speciaal voor Alcazar ....

Saudis: Bin Laden associate surrenders
Tuesday, July 13, 2004 Posted: 2:43 PM EDT (1843 GMT)


(CNN) -- A longtime fighter with al Qaeda leader Osama bin Laden surrendered to Saudi Arabian officials Tuesday, a Saudi Interior Ministry official said.

After giving himself up at the Saudi Embassy in Tehran, Iran, Khaled al-Harbi was flown to Saudi Arabia.

"He was a big fish," one Saudi official said of al-Harbi, who was believed to have been living near the Afghan-Iranian border before his surrender.

The Saudi government has offered leniency to al Qaeda suspects who turn themselves in during a one-month period.

The June 23 offer would exempt them from the death penalty in Saudi Arabia but not from lawsuits by their victims' families.

One Saudi security official said al-Harbi's status is "a tricky situation" because technically he is not eligible for the offer.

It was made to suspects in attacks inside Saudi Arabia, the official said, and does not apply to those wanted for attacks in other countries.

Al-Harbi has never been charged with any attacks inside Saudi Arabia, he said.

The official said it is unlikely al-Harbi would be allowed to go free.

Video aired Tuesday by the Arabic television network Al-Arabiya showed al-Harbi being carried from a plane and placed in a wheelchair.

Al-Harbi is believed to have fought with bin Laden against Soviet forces in Afghanistan about 20 years ago. Saudi officials said they believe al-Harbi returned to Afghanistan in the mid-1990s, joining up with al Qaeda.

In late 2001, he was identified on a videotape conversing with bin Laden about the September 11 terrorist attacks.

"Hundreds of people used to doubt you and few only would follow you until this huge event happened," al-Harbi tells bin Laden on the videotape. "Now hundreds of people are coming out to join you."

On the tape, bin Laden implies responsibility for the 9/11 attacks on New York's World Trade Center. "We calculated that the floors that would be hit would be three or four floors," he said.

"I was the most optimistic of them all," bin Laden said. "Due to my experience in this field, I was thinking that the fire from the gas in the plane would melt the iron structure of the building and collapse the area where the plane hit and all the floors above it only. This is all that we had hoped for."

After arriving in Saudi Arabia, al-Harbi made a statement broadcast on Saudi TV.

"I called the embassy, and we felt that we were welcomed, they were among family. Thank God for this blessing," he said.

"I came because I abide by the word of God and that of the caretaker of the holy sites. This initiative from the caretaker of the holy sites and the king is an opportunity. And our country is the country of Islam.

"Undoubtedly, it is an opportunity any logical man would thank God -- every logical man should take advantage of this opportunity."
http://www.cnn.com/2004/WORLD/meast/...ide/index.html

[tabufferkwa]

Oorspronkelijk geplaatst door Pascal L.

Een van de leiders van Al Quaeda geeft zichzelf aan om van de doodstraf gespaard te blijven (onder het amnestievoorstel van de Saoudische regering). Eens te meer laten de terroristen-leiders weer eens blijken dat ze angst hebben om zelf te sterven, maar zonder scrupules hun volgelingen de dood injagen. Wat is't Abu, had ge nog geen zin in uw 70 maagden?

Met "ons" 70-punten programma zouden wij best dat 70-maagden programma wel aankunnen

[/\|cazar]

Dat is al een iets betere info-bron, hoewel ...

Blijkbaar is hij de strijd moe, des mensen zeker ...

[Pascal L.]

Oorspronkelijk geplaatst door /\|cazar

Dat is al een iets betere info-bron, hoewel ...

Blijkbaar is hij de strijd moe, des mensen zeker ...

Hier Alca,
wat literatuur,

http://news.google.com/news?num=30&a...gory%3dKingdom

[/\|cazar]

ok, ik geloof je.

kan je natuurlijk afvragen hoeveel er al bijgekomen zijn sinds de start van de 'zeer omvangrijke' overgaves.

ze recruteren ze met bosjes, spijtig genoeg

[Mustapha]

de amnesty heeft wel een enorme effect gehad moet ik zeggen.
3 man hebben gebruik gemaakt van de "gunst".

er wordt geschat op 5000 "leden" van al qaida.
de amnestygunst moet dus nog verlengd worden tot het jaar 2142

nog eventjes...

[/\|cazar]

Militant Not Seen As Senior al-Qaida Aide



By ABDULLAH AL-SHIHRI, Associated Press Writer

RIYADH, Saudi Arabia - A disabled militant who was billed as a close confidant to Osama bin Laden (news - web sites) surrendered under a Saudi amnesty offer, the most important figure to turn himself in so far.




Khaled bin Ouda bin Mohammed al-Harby could provide clues about the fugitive al-Qaida leader, though a U.S. counterterrorism official said he is not considered an operational planner for the terror network. Another U.S. official, who declined to be identified, said al-Harby was not a senior member of al-Qaida and called him "an aging mujahideen."


Al-Harby had been seen on a videotape with the al-Qaida chief as he talked about the Sept. 11 terror attacks. He surrendered to Saudi diplomats in Iran and was flown to the kingdom Tuesday.


Al-Harby was shown on Saudi TV being pushed in a wheelchair through the Riyadh airport. Mansour al-Nogaidan, a Riyadh journalist and former militant, said al-Harby was disabled in both legs while fighting the Soviets in Afghanistan (news - web sites). He used to preach in a mosque in Mecca, but left Saudi Arabia for Afghanistan shortly after the Sept. 11 attacks.


"Thank God, thank God ... I called the embassy and we were very well-received," al-Harby told Saudi TV in the airport terminal. "I have come obeying God, and obeying the (kingdom's) rulers."


The Interior Ministry did not say what al-Harby is wanted for, but a Saudi security official said he is a member of al-Qaida.


Al-Harby — also known as Abu Suleiman al-Makky — is considered a confidant and sounding board of bin Laden's, the counterterrorism official said. The official said he was seen on a video after Sept. 11, seated with bin Laden at a dinner where he talked about the attacks.


At the dinner shown on the videotape, bin Laden praised the attacks on the World Trade Center and the Pentagon (news - web sites) and credited them with inspiring conversions to Islam.


It was not known when al-Harby last saw bin Laden or how much information he can provide.


In a statement, the Interior Ministry said al-Harby contacted the Saudi Embassy in Tehran from the Iranian-Afghan border, where he was stranded. His name does not appear on the kingdom's list of 26 most-wanted militants.


Some al-Qaida operatives close to bin Laden — notably Khalid Shaikh Mohammed — have provided vital intelligence to U.S. officials seeking top terror suspects and clues to attack plots. However, he is in American custody, and it was not immediately clear how much access U.S. authorities would have to al-Harby or his interrogation.


Wearing traditional white robes and Arab headdress, al-Harby was carried off the plane before being put in a wheelchair. He was accompanied by his wife, dressed all in black, and their son, a Saudi security official said.


The Interior Ministry said al-Harby will be taken to a hospital for medical care. It did not elaborate on his condition.


Al-Harby is the third man to take advantage of the monthlong amnesty that King Fahd offered militants on June 23, and the most prominent. One of the other militants who surrendered under the amnesty is Othman Hadi Al Maqboul al-Amri, No. 21 on Saudi Arabia's most-wanted list.


Al-Harby described the amnesty as a "generous offer" and urged other militants to take advantage of it.


Separately, Interior Minister Prince Nayef acknowledged for the first time Tuesday that Saudis had infiltrated neighboring Iraq (news - web sites) to join the insurgency against U.S.-led forces.


His statement came after repeated denials of Iraqi reports that that Saudis are fighting in the insurgency.





Iraq's Human Rights Minister Bakhtiyar Amin said Monday there were 14 Saudis among 99 foreign fighters in detention. Also, Saudi newspapers have published obituaries and funeral reports for at least four Saudis said to have died fighting in Iraq.

Prince Nayef said hundreds of other militants have been detained and some have already been convicted in court. He did not provide exact numbers, but he said more trials were coming.

Nayef warned there would be no extension to the amnesty that expires July 23, and declared that the kingdom's fight against terror is not over.