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![]() Is rechterlijk verbod op dragen habijt door kloosterlinge in school
gerechtvaardigd? Moet (mag) het hier ook verboden worden? German court bars nuns from wearing habits in schools It rules that ban on teachers wearing Islamic headscarves must apply to nuns BERLIN - A German federal court has ruled that a regional ban on Muslim teachers wearing headscarves in public schools must also apply to Christian nuns, news weekly Der Spiegel reported in an advance copy of its latest issue. The magazine wrote that the Federal Administrative Court had ruled that a law passed in April in the south-western state of Baden-Wuerttemberg was unfair as it only applied to Muslim women yet permitted Christian symbols. Nuns, who often work in public schools in the predominantly Roman Catholic Black Forest region of the state, will now be barred from wearing their habits in the classroom. 'Exceptions for certain forms of religiously motivated clothing in certain regions are out of the question,' the federal judges of the court based in Leipzig, eastern Germany, wrote in their ruling as quoted by Der Spiegel. A copy of the ruling could not be obtained yesterday. The author of the state legislation, law professor Ferdinand Kirchhof, told Der Spiegel that nuns' habits were considered to be 'professional uniforms' in the region, and thus exempt from the religious symbols law. Germany's highest tribunal, the constitutional court, ruled in September last year that Baden-Wuerttemberg was wrong to forbid a Muslim teacher from wearing a headscarf in the classroom. But it said Germany's 16 states could legislate independently to ban religious apparel if it was deemed to unduly influence children, which has subsequently created a patchwork quilt of varying rules throughout the country. Muslim groups have fiercely criticised the bans as compromising their freedom of religious expression. Germany is home to more than three million Muslims, making Islam the country's third religion. The German state laws tend to stop short of limits set by controversial new legislation in neighbouring France, which outlaws Islamic headscarves and other religious insignia in state schools outright, applying to both teachers and students. -- AFP |
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![]() Vitae forma vocatur, WeReldVErBeTeRaaR <[email protected]>, die Mon, 11 Oct
2004 19:05:38 GMT, in littera <[email protected]> in foro be.politics (et aliis) vere scripsit quod sequitur: >Is rechterlijk verbod op dragen habijt door kloosterlinge in school >gerechtvaardigd? >Moet (mag) het hier ook verboden worden? > >German court bars nuns from wearing habits in schools >It rules that ban on teachers wearing Islamic headscarves must apply >to nuns De zotheid regeert de wereld... Geef mij dan maar liever de zatheid. >BERLIN - A German federal court has ruled that a regional ban on >Muslim teachers wearing headscarves in public schools must also apply >to Christian nuns, news weekly Der Spiegel reported in an advance copy >of its latest issue. [..Spie(ge)lerei....] -- Fusti |
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![]() "WeReldVErBeTeRaaR" <[email protected]> schreef in bericht news:[email protected]... | Is rechterlijk verbod op dragen habijt door kloosterlinge in school | gerechtvaardigd? | Moet (mag) het hier ook verboden worden? | | German court bars nuns from wearing habits in schools | It rules that ban on teachers wearing Islamic headscarves must apply | to nuns | | BERLIN - A German federal court has ruled that a regional ban on | Muslim teachers wearing headscarves in public schools must also apply | to Christian nuns, news weekly Der Spiegel reported in an advance copy | of its latest issue. | | The magazine wrote that the Federal Administrative Court had ruled | that a law passed in April in the south-western state of | Baden-Wuerttemberg was unfair as it only applied to Muslim women yet | permitted Christian symbols. | | | Nuns, who often work in public schools in the predominantly Roman | Catholic Black Forest region of the state, will now be barred from | wearing their habits in the classroom. | | 'Exceptions for certain forms of religiously motivated clothing in | certain regions are out of the question,' the federal judges of the | court based in Leipzig, eastern Germany, wrote in their ruling as | quoted by Der Spiegel. | | A copy of the ruling could not be obtained yesterday. | | The author of the state legislation, law professor Ferdinand Kirchhof, | told Der Spiegel that nuns' habits were considered to be 'professional | uniforms' in the region, and thus exempt from the religious symbols | law. | | Germany's highest tribunal, the constitutional court, ruled in | September last year that Baden-Wuerttemberg was wrong to forbid a | Muslim teacher from wearing a headscarf in the classroom. | | But it said Germany's 16 states could legislate independently to ban | religious apparel if it was deemed to unduly influence children, which | has subsequently created a patchwork quilt of varying rules throughout | the country. | | Muslim groups have fiercely criticised the bans as compromising their | freedom of religious expression. | | Germany is home to more than three million Muslims, making Islam the | country's third religion. | | The German state laws tend to stop short of limits set by | controversial new legislation in neighbouring France, which outlaws | Islamic headscarves and other religious insignia in state schools | outright, applying to both teachers and students. -- AFP | Natuurlijk, waarom niet? |
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![]() "F ustigator" <[email protected]> schreef in bericht news:[email protected]... > Vitae forma vocatur, WeReldVErBeTeRaaR <[email protected]>, die Mon, 11 Oct > 2004 19:05:38 GMT, in littera > <[email protected]> in foro be.politics (et > aliis) vere scripsit quod sequitur: > > >Is rechterlijk verbod op dragen habijt door kloosterlinge in school > >gerechtvaardigd? > >Moet (mag) het hier ook verboden worden? > > > >German court bars nuns from wearing habits in schools > >It rules that ban on teachers wearing Islamic headscarves must apply > >to nuns > > De zotheid regeert de wereld... > Geef mij dan maar liever de zatheid. > De nonnen klederdracht is nu ook niet de modernste. WN twijfelt eigenlijk of dit wat met religie te maken heeft. Wie verplicht trouwens die vrouwen tot het dragen van zulke middeleeuwse klederdracht. En wat WN zich ook afvraagt is of die vrouwen onder dat habijt van die wulpse dingen dragen of eerders grootmoeders degelijkheid. > >BERLIN - A German federal court has ruled that a regional ban on > >Muslim teachers wearing headscarves in public schools must also apply > >to Christian nuns, news weekly Der Spiegel reported in an advance copy > >of its latest issue. > > [..Spie(ge)lerei....] > -- > Fusti WN. |
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![]() Vitae forma vocatur, "Wisenose" <[email protected]>, die Tue, 12 Oct 2004
20:24:53 GMT, in littera <[email protected]> in foro be.politics (et aliis) vere scripsit quod sequitur: > >"F ustigator" <[email protected]> schreef in bericht >news:[email protected].. . >> Vitae forma vocatur, WeReldVErBeTeRaaR <[email protected]>, die Mon, 11 Oct >> 2004 19:05:38 GMT, in littera >> <[email protected]> in foro be.politics (et >> aliis) vere scripsit quod sequitur: >> >> >Is rechterlijk verbod op dragen habijt door kloosterlinge in school >> >gerechtvaardigd? >> >Moet (mag) het hier ook verboden worden? >> > >> >German court bars nuns from wearing habits in schools >> >It rules that ban on teachers wearing Islamic headscarves must apply >> >to nuns >> >> De zotheid regeert de wereld... >> Geef mij dan maar liever de zatheid. >> >De nonnen klederdracht is nu ook niet de modernste. Dat is 100% correct. >WN twijfelt eigenlijk of dit wat met religie te maken heeft. Ik denk van wel, omdat de cenobitische levenswijze (het kloosterleven) inhoudt dat ùmen nie'ts meer bezit, ook niet de eigen beha (if any) en men de wereldse praal e,n pracht volledig afzweert om voor God te leven. >Wie verplicht trouwens die vrouwen tot het dragen van zulke middeleeuwse >klederdracht. De regels van de orde. >En wat WN zich ook afvraagt is of die vrouwen onder dat habijt van die >wulpse dingen dragen of eerders grootmoeders degelijkheid. Ze dragen wat de orde hen voorschrijft, dus dat zal wel niet wulps zijn. > >> >BERLIN - A German federal court has ruled that a regional ban on >> >Muslim teachers wearing headscarves in public schools must also apply >> >to Christian nuns, news weekly Der Spiegel reported in an advance copy >> >of its latest issue. >> >> [..Spie(ge)lerei....] >> -- >> Fusti > >WN. > -- Fusti |
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![]() "F ustigator" <[email protected]> schreef in bericht news:[email protected]... > Vitae forma vocatur, "Wisenose" <[email protected]>, die Tue, 12 Oct 2004 > 20:24:53 GMT, in littera > <[email protected]> in foro be.politics > (et aliis) vere scripsit quod sequitur: > >> >>"F ustigator" <[email protected]> schreef in bericht >>news:[email protected]. .. >>> Vitae forma vocatur, WeReldVErBeTeRaaR <[email protected]>, die Mon, 11 Oct >>> 2004 19:05:38 GMT, in littera >>> <[email protected]> in foro be.politics (et >>> aliis) vere scripsit quod sequitur: >>> >>> >Is rechterlijk verbod op dragen habijt door kloosterlinge in school >>> >gerechtvaardigd? >>> >Moet (mag) het hier ook verboden worden? >>> > >>> >German court bars nuns from wearing habits in schools >>> >It rules that ban on teachers wearing Islamic headscarves must apply >>> >to nuns >>> >>> De zotheid regeert de wereld... >>> Geef mij dan maar liever de zatheid. >>> >>De nonnen klederdracht is nu ook niet de modernste. > > Dat is 100% correct. > >>WN twijfelt eigenlijk of dit wat met religie te maken heeft. > > Ik denk van wel, omdat de cenobitische levenswijze (het kloosterleven) > inhoudt dat ùmen nie'ts meer bezit, ook niet de eigen beha (if any) en > men de wereldse praal e,n pracht volledig afzweert om voor God te leven. > Al eens in Rome/Vatikaan geweest, pracht en praal afzweren ? Het is er verdorie al pracht en praal wat er daar te zien is Was dat de levenswijze van hun zoon van hun god ? Hypocriete massamoordenaars zijn het. -- Ghingis Khan http://chinggiskhanfoundation.com/ http://www.khadag.org/ |
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![]() Vitae forma vocatur, "Ghingis Khan" <[email protected]>, die Wed,
13 Oct 2004 10:53:33 GMT, in littera <[email protected]> in foro be.politics (et aliis) vere scripsit quod sequitur: > >"F ustigator" <[email protected]> schreef in bericht >news:[email protected].. . >> Vitae forma vocatur, "Wisenose" <[email protected]>, die Tue, 12 Oct 2004 >> 20:24:53 GMT, in littera >> <[email protected]> in foro be.politics >> (et aliis) vere scripsit quod sequitur: >> >>> >>>"F ustigator" <[email protected]> schreef in bericht >>>news:[email protected] ... >>>> Vitae forma vocatur, WeReldVErBeTeRaaR <[email protected]>, die Mon, 11 Oct >>>> 2004 19:05:38 GMT, in littera >>>> <[email protected]> in foro be.politics (et >>>> aliis) vere scripsit quod sequitur: >>>> >>>> >Is rechterlijk verbod op dragen habijt door kloosterlinge in school >>>> >gerechtvaardigd? >>>> >Moet (mag) het hier ook verboden worden? >>>> > >>>> >German court bars nuns from wearing habits in schools >>>> >It rules that ban on teachers wearing Islamic headscarves must apply >>>> >to nuns >>>> >>>> De zotheid regeert de wereld... >>>> Geef mij dan maar liever de zatheid. >>>> >>>De nonnen klederdracht is nu ook niet de modernste. >> >> Dat is 100% correct. >> >>>WN twijfelt eigenlijk of dit wat met religie te maken heeft. >> >> Ik denk van wel, omdat de cenobitische levenswijze (het kloosterleven) >> inhoudt dat ùmen nie'ts meer bezit, ook niet de eigen beha (if any) en >> men de wereldse praal e,n pracht volledig afzweert om voor God te leven. >> > >Al eens in Rome/Vatikaan geweest, pracht en praal afzweren ? De prelaten in Rome leven beslist niet in pracht en praal. De gebouwen zijn prachtig (wie klaagt daarover?) en de liturgie ook. Maar dat is ook zo in de kloosters. Maar prelaten leven niet in cenobitisch verband. Het is hen trouwens verboden, omdat ze de kerk moeten leiden. > >Het is er verdorie al pracht en praal wat er daar te zien is Natuurlijk! Niets is te mooi voor God. >Was dat de levenswijze van hun zoon van hun god ? Jij kent niets af van de levenswijze van de prelaten. > >Hypocriete massamoordenaars zijn het. De enige die iemand in het Vatikaan gedood heeft is een gek geworden soldaat van de Zwitserse Garde. Voor de rest zijn sedert 1929 tot nu toe geen moorden in het Vatikaan gepleegd. Je vertelt gewoon schandalige onzin hier. We zijn niet in het bloeddorstige Mongolie hoor! -- Fusti |