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http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/ar...TICLE_ID=42633 Wordt het gevaarlijk hier de waarheid te posten over bepaalde fracties in de Islam? "Hören Sie mit?" En blijkbaar hebben die jongens nog een lijst klaar staan. Gelukkig dat we er in België geen terroristen zijn (Dixit Guyken, en die kan het weten want hij heeft zichzelf in de kranten kunnen lezen ![]() COPTIC KILLINGS Christians stalked on Islamic website Murdered New Jersey man among several tracked by Muslims Posted: January 31, 2005 5:00 p.m. Eastern © 2005 WorldNetDaily.com The New Jersey man brutally murdered with his family was just one of a number of Christians systematically tracked by a radical Islamic website because they debate Muslims on the popular Internet chat service PalTalk.com. The password-protected Arabic website www.barsomyat.com, includes the kind of death threat received by Hossam Armanious, a Coptic Christian from Jersey City, N.J., who was found Jan. 14 with his wife and two daughters, bound and gagged with their throats slashed, the New York Sun reports. Two months before his murder, according to authorities, Armanious received a death threat from a Muslim PalTalk user: "You'd better stop this bull ... or we are going to track you down like a chicken and kill you." The Sun's report says barsomyat.com features photographs and information about Christians who actively debate on PalTalk, including a group of photographs of a Syrian Christian, "Joseph," who now lives in Canada. Personal information posted by subscribers clearly indicates they are trying to find his current address, the paper said. One comment warns: "Know, oh Christian, that you are not far from us and you are under our watchful eyes!" Another says: "Laugh, oh Christian, and soon you will see a big hit." The Islamic website's banner displays lamb with its throat being slit and a crucifix crossed out by a violent red "X." The main heading, in Arabic, says "Christians: Revealing the Truth Behind Our Belief." Authorities have not determined whether the Armanious family's murder is tied to Islamic radicals, but the Sun says barsomyat.com users expressed delight in the deaths. One post, with a photograph of Armanious and his wife, said, "This is a picture of the filthy dog, curser of Muhammad, and a photo of his filthy wife, curser of Muhammad. They got what they deserved for their actions in America." The Islamic website has at least seven collections of photographs of Christians who post on PalTalk and about 40 related discussion threads. One post is about a Christian man whose computer apparently was hacked to obtain his photograph. It includes his PalTalk name, real name and the city where he lives in Lebanon, the Sun reported. Another entry, with photographs of four Christians, says it has postponed publishing information "because there is a lot more to be revealed when the time is right." Islam researcher and writer Robert Spencer, moderator of the weblog JihadWatch.com, told the Sun he has never seen anything like the posts on barsonmyat.com. "It's chilling to see photographs of people who probably have no idea that they're on the website," he said. "Hamas's website would post self-congratulatory accounts of their attacks on civilians, but barsomyat.com's users are telegraphing their intended victims in advance." Spencer told the New York paper he sees barsomyat.com as a "prime example" of how Islamic extremists can utilize technology to attempt to bring Islamic religious law to the West. "We saw in the Theo van Gogh murders that some Muslims will take these kinds of matters into their own hands," Spencer said, referring to the murdered Dutch filmmaker. "The Internet makes it easier for them to do so by disseminating this kind of information. You could imagine 15 years ago how hard it would be for people to get this much information on people who they believe should be killed." On his JihadWatch weblog, Spencer posted translations of conversations. He says, "It is clear that the personal information is being exchanged in order to facilitate the murders of the people discussed. Bibo 117: Allah bless you brothers! Here is the surprise you've all been waiting for and we haven't published yet due to a certain reason. The damned Muhammad-cursing dog "[NAME REMOVED]" is the big brother of "[NAME REMOVED]" and their little brother is the one called "[NAME REMOVED]." "[NAME REMOVED]" the dog is married to the daughter of one of the Muhammad-cursing Christians from paltalk. We have postponed publishing this information because there is a lot more to be revealed when the time is right. These are the pictures of the "devil triangle." [Photos of the people mentioned were then posted.] Bibo 117: For you my brothers I now present the second photo collection of the Muhammad-cursing paltalk pigs. Wait a little for the rest of the pictures. The first photo is that of the foul smelling ugly pig "[NAME REMOVED]." Anti Christians: [Posts Photos:] "The deceitful [NAME REMOVED]" and "The liar [NAME REMOVED]." [In green in the middle:] "Beware!" Bibo 117: Fellow brothers this is the picture of one of the most Muhammad-cursing Christians. It was taken as he was opening a camera with one of the young Christian ladies from Paltalk. *After he is finished, the isolation of the Christian lady will be completed. This idiots name on paltalk: [NAME REMOVED] His real name is: [NAME REMOVED] He lives in [NAME REMOVED].
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![]() Gevaarlijk??? Hoezo, gevaarlijk??? Moeten we al schrik krijgen misschien en gaan lopen??? Wie gaat ge daarvoor halen???
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http://www.jihadwatch.org/archives/004883.php January 31, 2005 New details on the New Jersey murders A close friend of Hossam Armanious and relatives of the family murdered in New Jersey have revealed the following: Shortly after the murders, members of the Egyptian consulate went to visit the family to encourage them to keep quiet. And many family members have obeyed, saying nothing to reporters or anyone else. However, two family members and another Copt viewed the bodies at the funeral home. One of these eyewitnesses said that he clearly saw that the family members had not suffered “stab wounds to the throat,” as the prosecutor’s report states, but rather the following: A. Both adults, Hossam and Amal, had a horizontal slit across the throat. Below the slit, on the left, right and middle of the throat were three holes, big enough so that one could place a finger in each hole. According to the eyewitness, it was as if the assailant(s) took a knife and turned it repeatedly in a circular fashion, as if to screw holes into the victims’ necks. B. The two young girls, Sylvia (15) and Monica ( 8 ), also had a horizontal slits in their throats, along with two holes bored below the slits, one on the right and one on the left sides of their necks. The holes were similar to those on their parents’ necks. C. The eyewitness said although the bodies of the victims were all covered, he was able to see the arms of the little girl Monica. Although the tattoo of the cross inside Monica’s wrist was not defaced, he saw that her wrists were cut. He was not able to see the wrists of the other victims to see if the crosses on their wrists were defaced. D. Though the family wants to reserve judgment until the results of the case are released, they did say that the way the four family members were bound and gagged and the way their throats were slit with holes carved is similar to executions that are shown on al-Jazeera. The American public is not aware of this because the details of the executions are not often described in news accounts. Amal Garas’s father said that (contrary to many news reports and CAIR’s press release) none of the family’s jewelry was taken, and that Amal owned some quite expensive pieces that were not touched. At the time of her murder, Amal was wearing a ring worth $3,500 that was not taken. Garas’s father also has been speaking with the detectives and the prosecutor on the case. He was told that the results of the autopsy would not be ready until March 14. However, an inside source in one of New Jersey’s police departments said that the results of autopsy and toxicology reports are known within 48 hours after the bodies are discovered. This source has worked on such cases for many years. He said that the department knows the results, but as in similar cases intends to wait a month or two before they release them to the family. During that time long reports are written to cross the t’s and dot the i’s for the family, but the final results are not much different from what is discovered within the first 48 hours. So all of the press reports about waiting for the prosecutor’s findings on the autopsies are nonsense. Though the investigators are looking at Sylvia’s computer and other evidence, the findings on the autopsy for the most part are already in. A reporter who is closely following this case said that this delay was because the police and prosecutor want this case to go away. They want things to cool down. That’s why they set the autopsy date as March 14, two months after the murders. It is still possible that this wasn’t a Muslim hate crime. The problem is that investigators have not taken the necessary steps to ensure a fair review of the evidence. There are too many holes here, too many inconsistencies in the official story. Too many obvious tasks have not been done: an Armanious family friend with whom I spoke, who gave me names and motives of possible perpetrators, is still waiting for a call from investigators. Investigators seem to be following dead ends more assiduously than live leads. A Muslim has told police in Jersey City that there is an Islamic custom in Egypt: a life for a life. He said that is what may have happened in this case. Some news reports are referring to this when they say they’re looking into the family’s activities in Egypt before they came to the U.S. in 1997. Said prosecutor Edward DeFazio, “It could be that it's a vendetta that might go back to the old country. We’re going to try to look into that.” However, those close to Hossam Armanious maintain that he didn’t have any enemies, and certainly never took anyone’s life in Egypt or here; nor did anyone in his family. This background information may illuminate why this investigation has been so curiously lacking: There are a number of clergy in the Coptic community who are in bed with the Egyptian government. Some even act as agents for the Mubarak regime. Coptic clergy who won’t cooperate are often exiled into the Egyptian desert, where they live a very difficult life. Many Coptic women have been kidnapped by Muslims. Some of these women are being kidnapped with the help of the compromised clergy. The priest hears a girl’s confession and then passes on information he hears there to Muslim kidnappers, who decide which girls they want to take. Many of these women are forced to marry Muslim men and are never seen again. A number of Muslims have infiltrated the Coptic community, pretending to be Christians in order to gather information. Jersey City has a large number of Copts. Some of this infiltration has taken place there; some of the Coptic clergy there are also compromised. However, most Copts trust their clergy wholeheartedly, making it easy for the moles to operate. What do those compromised clergymen want? The answer possibly has to do with a fact revealed by a number of other sources, including one within a New Jersey police department: the Egyptian government is pressuring the police and prosecutor to make this case disappear. Where are the mainstream media reporters contacting the Egyptian consulate to find out whether or not this is true?
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![]() Well - kroniek van een op het internet aangekondigde moord - Het systeem
heeft vanzelfsprekend ook een nadeel : men kan ook de internetcrimineel tracken en voor het gerecht brengen (tenzij het een zelfmoordoperatie is). Als we dan toch het Wahabietisch fundamentalisme als probleem willen aanpakken: moet men het in de eerste plaats van de "Islam" scheiden zoals bv. de recente verkiezingen in Irak duidelijk aangeven zetten deze mensen zichzelf af van de Islam-mainstream. In Irak hebben ze dan nog een beperkt succes doordat ze op aanhang vanuit de ex- Sadam aanhangers kunnen rekenen; zodra deze mensen doorkrijgen dat ze ipv zich tegen de gehate amerikanen tegen hun eigen volk aan et keren zijn, keert het getij.
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![]() Als Christenen en Moslims al zo op elkaar inhakken als tegenwoordig het geval is en elkaar gaan uitmoorden (bij wijze van spreken) dan blijven mensen als ik, die vrijzinnig zijn over!
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![]() Da's waar. De meerderheid van de mensen zullen die bomaanslag veroordelen. Maar wat je dan zegt 'Voor mij is ieder geloof gelijk' dat doet mij wel omvallen.
Het geloof van Bin Laden, Al Zarqawi ed. is dus gelijk aan alle andere religies... want ja hoor. Zij zijn gelovig. Het is hun woord tegen het woord van de anderen. Die Alzarqawis en Bin Ladens dat zijn Nazis makker. Neen.. die zijn nog erger dan Nazis. En met bemiddeling zul je bij die gasten niet ver komen. Uw democratie zal je ook mogen vergeten. Peace? Neen. Tenzij je je bekeert of onderwerpt aan hun geloof en aan hun wetten zoals de sharia. Allah u Akhbar ![]() Laatst gewijzigd door smiley : 3 februari 2005 om 12:19. |
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![]() http://europa.vvd.nl/nieuws.php?id=5981 Gerrit Zalm is Minister van Financiën en houdt geen (hoofd)doekje voor zijn mond, zoals de PC's in België, en die zegt niets meer, niets minder dan wat ik ook bedoelde. Ik vond zijn uitspraak zeer "to the point" in de huidige situatie om het onderscheid te maken tussen religie en het misbruik ervan. Dat stoort natuurlijk weeral dezelfde die de scheiding niet kunnen/willen maken... Gerrit Zalm hield op 27 november, de tweede dag van de 116e algemene vergadering van de VVD, onderstaande speech. .... k zei het net al: het kabinet heeft twee opdrachten. De eerste is het bestrijden van het extremisme. Dat zullen we doortastend doen. De aanpak van dit soort extremisten betekent opsluiten, uitzetten of allebei. En de VVD-fractie, met Jozias voorop, zal daar alert op toezien. Het dualisme werkt hier als een katalysator. De tweede opdracht is het behouden en herstellen van de goede verhoudingen in ons land. Tussen moslims en niet-moslims. Tussen mensen van Marokkaanse afkomst en de autochtone Nederlanders. Wat de extremisten willen is: tweespalt zaaien in onze samenleving. In die val moeten wij niet trappen. Extremisten kunnen rekenen op opsluiten of uitzetten. Maar hier geldt een ander motto: niet tegen elkaar opzetten en niet uitsluiten. Dat vereist in de eerste plaats dat we ervoor zorgen dat alle Nederlanders, van welke afkomst dan ook, zich met zijn allen afzetten tegen moslim-extremisten die moord als een goddelijke opdracht zien. Daarin moeten we bondgenoten zijn. We moeten het kaf van de koran scheiden! Het vereist ook dat we niet generaliseren. Niet iedere gekleurde Nederlander of iedere moslim hoeft verantwoording af te leggen over de moord door een extremist. Dat hoefden de ongekleurde Nederlanders ook niet te doen vanwege de blanke moordenaar van Pim Fortuyn.
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![]() Zalm heeft dit NOOIT gezegd. ![]() Is dit op CNN geweest? Kan je het filmpje eens tonen waarin je bewijst dat hij dit gezegd heeft. ![]() Allemaal onzin van hoaxsites. ![]()
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![]() Aan propaganda van hoaxsites hebben we niets. ![]() Toon me het filmpje waarop ik Zalm dit zie zeggen. Ik wil BEWIJZEN!!!!!!!!!!! ![]()
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