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Oud 7 april 2006, 10:32   #1
Richard
 
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Standaard Priest Fled From Turkey Under Islamic Persecution

http://www.lifesite.net/ldn/2006/mar/06033010.html

Belgian Priest to Stand Trial for Hatred for Citing Fears of Coming
Islamic Persecution
Melkite Catholic Patriarch: Since 9/11 There's a Plot to Eliminate All
Christians from Arab World

By John-Henry Westen

BRUSSELS, March 30, 2006 (LifeSiteNews.com) - A Catholic priest in
Belgium known popularly as Père Samuel is to be brought to trial for
hate crimes according to a decision reached last week by the Belgian
judiciary. According to the Brussels Journal
(http://www.brusselsjournal.com/node/936 ), the priest, who fled from
Turkey under Islamic persecution, is being prosecuted for warning
against Islamic fundamentalism.

His offending statement: "Every thoroughly islamized Muslim child that
is born in Europe is a time bomb for Western children in the future.
The latter will be persecuted when they have become a minority."

After hearing of his upcoming trial the priest, who was suspended by
his bishop but nonetheless remains a popular clergyman, repeated his
statement and warns against "the islamic invasion" of the West.

While that sentiment may seem bitter to some, it is a sincere
conviction for many prelates coming from Islamic nations.

In a startling statement which received very little coverage, the
Patriarch of the Greek Melkite Catholic Church, stated in an interview
published last October "According to me, after 11 September, there is a
plot to eliminate all the Christian minorities from the Arabic world."

The Patriarch, who oversees some 20,000 Melkite Catholics in Syria,
explained in an interview with the Italian magazine 30 Days, "Islam is
our milieu, the context in which we live and with which we are
historically associated. We have lived 1,400 years in the middle of
them. We understand Islam from the inside. When I hear a verse of the
Koran, it's not something foreign to me. It's an expression of the
civilization to which I belong."

Regarding the 'plot' to oust Christians he stated, "Our simple
existence ruins the equations whereby Arabs can't be other than
Moslems, and Christians but be westerners." If, he said, "the Middle
East is cleansed of all the Arabic Christians, the Moslem Arab world
and a so-called Christian Western world will be left face to face. It
will be easier to provoke a clash and justify it with religion.

See the full interview in 30 Days:
http://www.30giorni.it/us/articolo.asp?id=9596

See more of Pere Samuel's case from the Brussels Journal:
http://www.brusselsjournal.com/node/936

(news tip from Spero News http://www.speroforum.com )

 
Oud 7 april 2006, 10:32   #2
gogu
 
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Richard wrote:
> http://www.lifesite.net/ldn/2006/mar/06033010.html
>
> Belgian Priest to Stand Trial for Hatred for Citing Fears of Coming
> Islamic Persecution
> Melkite Catholic Patriarch: Since 9/11 There's a Plot to Eliminate All
> Christians from Arab World
>
> By John-Henry Westen
>
> BRUSSELS, March 30, 2006 (LifeSiteNews.com) - A Catholic priest in
> Belgium known popularly as Père Samuel is to be brought to trial for
> hate crimes according to a decision reached last week by the Belgian
> judiciary. According to the Brussels Journal
> (http://www.brusselsjournal.com/node/936 ), the priest, who fled from
> Turkey under Islamic persecution, is being prosecuted for warning
> against Islamic fundamentalism.
>
> His offending statement: "Every thoroughly islamized Muslim child that
> is born in Europe is a time bomb for Western children in the future.
> The latter will be persecuted when they have become a minority."





Saricizmeli wrote:
> Gogu..!
>
> why don't you give up to fload sct..?
>
> I do remember you very well..more than 5 years you have been writing
> here..
>
> why do you waste here so much time ..? you may want to explain us..



Ok allow me to explain

You see, it all started many many years ago when I was a young child in
Communist Romania, a fascist dictatorship ruled by the Ceaucescu
regime, my father was a flunky of Nikolae Ceaucescu so all the other
little kids hated me so badly

That made me very sad of my own nationality, I hated being a Romanian
and I hated myself for being a Romanian that was deeply despised by all
other Romanians

I decided at a young age that I may be able to escape from my nationaly
by researching my families history in order to find some foreign blood
I could claim as my own

I researched my Mother & my Fathers bloodlines, The GHICA and the
Brincoveanu families back 500 years

I found that we were manily Romanian / Moldovan with Albanian mixed in
but there was some rumour about a marriage to a greek in 1656 !

A GREEK ! a country that was proto communist but also on the other side
of the Iron curtain !

I decided that from that day forth I would dedicate my life to becoming
a GREEK !!!!

I moved to Selanik as a refugee after escaping Romania when the
Ceaucescu regime was overthrown, If I had not escaped, ANGRY Romanians
would have butchered me and my Ceaucescu loving family, luckily my
father had been bribed by greek ministers over a road construction
contract they wanted to win, so they managed to get us political asylum
if we promised not to tell of their corrupt dealings with Ceaucescu's
regime

They were too embarrassed to have us in Athens so they hid us away in
Thesaloniki

I have only ever managed to get menial building site labour as a
foreign immigrant so have been trying really hard to BECOME A GREEK
ever since we lived here

The easiest way for me was to copy the behaviour of the working class
greeks I work with every day

That is why I have been calling Jews JIDANILOR ( YIDS )
http://snipurl.com/mwah

That is why I have to kick shit at Turks all my life, It makes me FEEL
like I am becoming a greek even if the greeks still do not accept me as
a greek and despise me as a self-loathing Romanian greek wannabe

I hope this explains my 6 years of vile abusive postings in Turkish /
Jewish / Albanian / Macedonian usenet groups

Phewwww ! I feel much better now that I've come clean and got that off
my chest !

--

E' mai possibile, oh porco di un cane, che le avventure
in codesto reame debban risolversi tutte con grandi
puttane! F.d.A

Coins, travels and more:
http://pig.photos.yahoo.com/ph/golanule/my_photos
http://putfile.com/naz1gogu

 
Oud 7 april 2006, 10:32   #3
Panta Rhei
 
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Standaard Re: Priest Fled From Turkey Under Islamic Persecution

Ira writes:


He is not gogu. He's a sick Turkish nutter with over sixty screen names,
impersonating him. Check the headers.

This poor sod you are talking to posts 24/7, day after day, year after
year! He supposes he fights for Turkey's interests and Turkey's admission
in the EU! <BG>

If you care to read just some of his posts, you will see that he is an
out-and-out psychopath, with no life outside Usenet at all and acting as a
deranged troll on Usenet being his only kick in life and probably the only
source of some sort of "identity". <G>
 
Oud 7 april 2006, 10:32   #4
Mr. Jaggers
 
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"Ira" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected] ps.com...
> Gogu writes:
>
> <<
>
> The easiest way for me was to copy the behaviour of the working class
> greeks I work with every day
>
> That is why I have been calling Jews JIDANILOR ( YIDS )
> http://snipurl.com/mwah
>
> That is why I have to kick shit at Turks all my life, It makes me FEEL
> like I am becoming a greek even if the greeks still do not accept me as
> a greek and despise me as a self-loathing Romanian greek wannabe
>
> I hope this explains my 6 years of vile abusive postings in Turkish /
> Jewish / Albanian / Macedonian usenet groups
>
> Phewwww ! I feel much better now that I've come clean and got that off
> my chest !
>
> <<
>
> That's the easiest way to become accepted into Greek society? Sorry, I
> don't buy it. It's your brand of ranting and self-serving
> justificatuion that has preceipitated all the cross-posted hate posts
> that have been polluting this news group (RCC) for years.
>
> I speak for myself here, but I for one do not support your hateful
> postings and cross-posting and I doubt many on RCC do either, perhaps
> NONE as a matter of fact.
>
> Frankly I wish you'd simply stop posting this crap. Thos who you anger
> by such posts post to this group believing that we support you here. We
> do not..certainly I don't! Get lost, Gogu. Your self-delusional
> fantasies have made a mess of this NG and I hope I NEVER hear from you
> again. Just because you collect coins does not excuse the mayhem you
> have created here and elsewhere.
>
> Ira


What he does on other newsgroups I know not and care not, but in the time I
have been on this newsgroup the REAL gogu has never, not once, thrown the
first punch on the pages of RCC. The person posting with the name gogu in
the "from" column lately is an impostor in several guises. I suspect I have
the same miscreant killfiled under at least 100 different aliases, and
growing.

Mr. Jaggers


 
Oud 7 april 2006, 13:04   #5
FrankB
 
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Standaard Re: Priest Fled From Turkey Under Islamic Persecution

Richard was thinking very hard :

And then he stopped, and posted.

Dear Richard,

By this i would like you to know that we read/watch/look at/hear the
newslines, newsflashes,rumours,headlines just like you do.

The difference is, Richie, that we do NOT spam forums with things
everybody else knows.


 
Oud 7 april 2006, 13:04   #6
La giraFFFFF [timbrée]
 
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Standaard Re: Priest Fled From Turkey Under Islamic Persecution

"Richard" <[email protected]> (soc.culture.belgium ; 3 Apr 2006
21:27:06 -0700):

>
>BRUSSELS, March 30, 2006 (LifeSiteNews.com) - A Catholic priest in
>Belgium known popularly as Père Samuel


Il est quand même plus "belge" que catholique.
-
°\
/\ (timbrée)
___________
http://cf.geocities.com/girafffff/Ic...girAFFFFF.html
 
 



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