Re: Europe Doubts Jewish Claims/ the Holohoax is dead

WHAT DOUBTS????

>Here then are excerpts from the verdict of Judge Halevi, who later
>became one of the panel of three judges that tried Eichmann:
>
>"The masses of Jews from Hungary's ghettos obediently boarded the
>deportation trains without knowing their fate. They were full of
>confidence in the false information that they were being transferred to
>Kenyermeze.
>
>The Nazis could not have misled the masses of Jews so conclusively had
>they not spread their false information through Jewish channels.
>
>The Jews of the ghettos would not have trusted the Nazi or Hungarian
>rulers. But they had trust in their Jewish leaders. Eichmann and
>others used this known fact as part of their calculated plan to mislead
>the Jews.
>They were able to deport the Jews to their extermination by the help
>of Jewish leaders.
>
>The false information was spread by the Jewish leaders. The local
>leaders of the Jews of Kluj and Nodvarod knew that other leaders were
>spreading such false information and did not protest.
>
>Those of the Jews who tried to warn their friends of the truth were
>persecuted by the Jewish leaders in charge of the local 'rescue work'.
>
>The trust of the Jews in the misleading information and their lack of
>knowledge that their wives, children and themselves were about to be
>deported to the gas chambers of Auschwitz led the victims to remain
>quiescent in their ghettos. It seduced them into not resisting or
>hampering the deportation orders.
>
>Dozens of thousands of Jews were guarded in their ghettos by a few
>dozen police. Yet even vigorous young Jews made no attemptt to overpower
>these few guards and escape to nearby Rumania. No resistance activities to
>the deportations were organized in these ghettos.
>
>And the Jewish leaders did everything in their power to soothe the
>Jews in the ghettos and to prevent such resistance activities.
>
>The same Jews who spread in Kluj and Nodvarod the false rumor of
>Kenyermeze, or confirmed it, the same public leaders who did not warn
>their own people against the misleading statements, the same Jewish leaders
>who did not organize any resistance or any sabotage of
>deportations...these same leaders did not join the people of their
community
>in their ride to Auschwitz, but were all included in the Rescue train.
>
>The Nazi organizers of extermination and the perpetrators of
>extermination permitted Rudolf Kastner and the members of the Jewish
Council
>in Budapest to save themselves, their relatives, and friends. The Nazis did
>this as a means of making the local Jewish leaders, whom they favoured,
>dependent on the Nazi regime, dependent on its good will during the time of
>its fatal deportation schedule. In short, the Nazis succeeded in bringing
the
>Jewish leaders into oollaboration with the Nazis at the time of the
>catastrophe.
>
>The Nazi chiefs knew that the Zionists were a most vital element in
>Jewry and the most trusted by the Jews.
>
>The Nazis drew a lesson from the Warsaw ghetto and other belligerent
>ghettos. They learned that Jews were able to sell their lives very
>expensively if honorably guided.
>
>Eichmann did not want a second Warsaw. For this reason, the Nazis
>exerted themselves to mislead and bribe the Jewish leaders.
>
>The personality of Rudolph Kastner made him a convenient catspaw for
>Eichmann and his clique, to draw into collaboration and make their
>task easier.
>
>The question here is not, as stated by the Attorney General in his
>summation, whether members of the Jewish Rescue Committee were or were
>not capable of fulfilling their duty without the patronage of the S.S.
>chiefs.
>It is obvious that without such S.S. Nazi patronage the Jewish Rescue
>Committee could not have existed, and could have acted only as an
>underground.
>
>The question is, as put by the lawyer for the defense, why were the
>Nazis interested in the existence of the Rescue Committee? Why did
>the S.S. chiefs make every effort to encourage the existence of the
>Jewish Rescue Committee? Did the exterminators turn into rescuers?
>
>The same question rises concerning the rescue of prominent Jews by
>these German killers of Jews. Was the rescue of such Jews a part of
>the extermination plan of the killers ?
>
>The support given by the extermination leaders to Kastner's Rescue
>Committee proves that indeed there was a place for Kastner and his
>friends in their Final Solution for the Jews of Hungary - their total
>annihilation.
>
>The Nazi's patronage of Kastner, and their agreement to let him save
>six hundred prominent Jews, were part of the plan to exterminate the Jews.
>Kastner was given a chance to add a few more to that number. The bait
>attracted him. The opportunity of rescuing prominent people appealed
>to him greatly. He considered the rescue of the most important Jews as a
>great personal success and a success for Zionism. It was a success that
>would also justify his conduct - his political negotiation with Nazis and
>the Nazi patronage of his committee.
>
>When Kastner received this present from the Nazis, Kastner sold his
>soul to the German Satan. The sacrifice of the vital interests of the
majority
>of the Jews, in order to rescue the prominents, was the basic element in
the
>agreement between Kastner and the Nazis. This agreement fixed the division
of
>the nation into two unequal camps: a small fragment of prominents, whom the
>Nazis promised Kastner to save, on the one hand, and the great majority of
>Hungarian Jews whom the Nazis designated for death, on the other hand.
>An imperative condition for the rescue of the first camp by the Nazis was
that
>Kastner will not interfere in the action of the Nazis against the other
camp
>and will not hamper them in its extermination. Kastner fulfilled this
>condition. He concentrated his efforts in the rescue of the prominents
>and treated the camp of the doomed as if they had already been wiped out
>from the book of the living.
>
>One cannot estimate the damage caused by Kastner's collaboration and
>put down the number of victims which it cost Hungarian Jews. These are not
>only the thousands of Jews in Nodvarod or any other community in the border
>area, Jews who could escape through the border, had the chief of their
>rescue committee fulfilled his duty toward them.
>
>All of Kastner's answers in his final testimony were a constant effort
>to evade this truth.
>
>Kastner has tried to escape through every crack he could find in the
>wall of evidence. When one crack was sealed in his face, he drated quickly
>to another."
>
>(Judgement of Judge Benjamin Halevi, Criminal Case 124/53; Attorney
>General
>v. Malchiel Greenwald, District Court, Jerusalem, June 22, 1955).
>
>Judge Halevi reverts to the meeting of Kastner with the S.S. officers
>Becher and Rudolf Hoess, commandant of Auschwitz at the time when the
>'new line' of rescuing Jews was revealed by Hoess. He says:
>
>"From this gathering in Budapest, it is obvious that the 'new line'
>stretched from Himmler to Hoess, from Jutner to Becher and Krumey.
>
>According to Kastner, however, these Nazis were all active in rescuing
>Jews.
>
>This meeting of these important German guests in Budapest exposes the
>'rescue' work of Becher in its true light. It reveals also the extent
>of Kastner's involvement in the inner circle of the chief German war
>criminals.
>
>Just as the Nazi war criminals knew they needed an alibi and hoped to
>achieve it by the rescue of a few Jews at the eleventh hour, so
>Kastner also needed an alibi for himself.
>
>Collaboration between the Jewish Agency Rescue Committee and the
>Exterminators of the Jews was solidifed in Budapest and Vienna.
>Kastner's duties were part and parcel of the genral duties of the S.S.
>
>In addition to its Extermination Department and Looting Department,
>the Nazi S.S. opened a Rescue Department headed by Kastner.
>
>All these extermination, robbery and rescue activities of the S.S.
>were coordinated under the management of Heinrich Himmler". (ibid)
>
>Judge Halevi continues:
>
>"Kastner perjured himself knowingly in his testimony before this court
>when he denied he had interceded in Becher's hehalf. Moreover, he concealed
>the important fact that he interceded for Becher in the name of the Jewish
>Agency and the Jewish World Congress.
>
>As to the contents of Kastner's affidavit, it was enough for the
>defense to prove Becher was a war criminal. It was up to the prosecution to
>remove Becher from this status, if they wished to negate the affidavit.
>
>The Attorney General admitted in his summation that Becher was a war
>criminal.

"Salah Jafar" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:9Zamg.4103$DI2.3584@trnddc05...
Europe doubts Israel's claims

THERE IS NO DOBT THE ONLY DOUBT IS WHO IS TO BLAME FOR THE WHOLE MESS? DID
THE JEWS/ZIONISTS CAUSE THE WHOLE MESS AND THEN SUFFER THE FAITH OF BEINGING
IMPRISONED WHEN THE WHOLE POPULATION WAS STARVING.
AS THE ALLIED WINNERS THEMSELVES WERE ON SEVERE RATIONING, WHICH WAS A GOOD
THING FOR SOME COUNTRIES WHERE HEART AND OTHER PROBLEMS INDUCED BY SMOKING
AND OVER EATING WERE DOWN DURING WAR YEARS.



TIME ACADEMICS STOPPED JEWS AND SUPPORTERS TO ENJOYING A GOOD LIVING ON
LIES AND DISHONEST PRACTICES IN CORRUPTING OUR HISTORY WHILE SUPPORTING THE
JAILING OF HONEST ACADEMICS TRYING TO PRESENT AND INCORPORATE THE TRUTH IN
WHAT IS MAINLY OUR HISTORY OF WWII AND NOT THE SOLE PROPERTY OF THE
JEWQW/ZIONIST/ISRAELI CLIQUE TO USE TO SUPPORT FURTHER LIES AND
MISREPRESENTATIONS ABOUT THE PRACTICES OF THE ZIONISTS AND SAME GROUP WHO
ARE IN POWER IN ISRAEL.

"Yisroel Markov" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> UK to Israeli Profs: Class Dismissed
> ------------------------------------
> The weird movement to boycott Israeli academics
> By Ari Paul

NOTHING WEIRD , THE WEIRD IS THE STANDING BACK AND ACTUALLY ALLOWING THE
PAMPERED AND EGOTISTICAL JEWISH/ZIONIST/ISRAELI ACADEMICS BLUFF THEM INTO
NOT CONTRADICTING ALL THE LIES THEY HAVE ACTUALLY MADE A PART OF WWII
HISTORY AND ALLOWED AND SUPPORTED THE JAILING OF JEWISH AND NONJEWISH
HISTORIANS DOING NO MORE THAN THEIR JOB BY MAKING AN HONEST EVALUATION OF
THE HOLOCAUST CLAIMS AS NOT SUPPORTED BY HISTORICAL FACT.

AND IN SO DOING SUPPORTING THE LIES AND PROPAGANDA SPREAD BY ISRAEL AND
SUPPORTERS WHO ARE NOT EITHER LOYAL CITIZENS OR HONEST MEN/WOMEN.

ALLOWING THESE FRAUDS TO ENJOY A GOOD LIVING WHILE ALLOWING HONEST ACADEMICS
TO BE PERSECUTED.

WALK OPENLY OVER OUR , I HOPE, STRONGLY HELD BELIEFS OF FREEDOM OF SPEECH
AND ASSOCIATION. AND RIGHTS THAT THEY HAVE NEVER INCORPORATED OR PRACTISED
IN ANY STATE IN WHICH THEY HAVE HAD A POSITION OF CONTROL.

WARNING To People in Austria; Belgium; France; Germany;
Israel; Spain and Switzerland. You can be fined,imprisoned or both for
discussing the topics set forth in this article.

Israeli stats
http://www.ifamericansknew.org/


Jews and Palestinians genetically similar.
http://www.khazaria.com/genetics/abstracts.html

War without end
http://www.itszone.co.uk/zone0/viewtopic.php?t=39590


Yes and you have no quarrel with the US?
They dont have to, they use their army to shoot, run over and mistreat
physically and sexually helpless children. What can a Palestinian do when
the mighty money contributing yanks cannot protect their citizens.

http://www.thenausea.com/elements/th...hel/index.html
http://edition.cnn.com/2003/WORLD/me...6/rafah.death/
http://www.nydailynews.com/front/sto...0p-72974c.html
One guy gets 10 years, the other gets a raise and promotion??

And the chimp smirks on
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http://www.smirkingchimp.com/print.php?sid=26276



http://english.aljazeera.net/NR/exer...D-9E4139D4788A.
htm

_
American and Australian shot by Israelis
Chris McGreal talks to the relatives of three British and American victims
http://www.guardian.co.uk/israel/Sto...066817,00.html
http://edition.cnn.com/2003/WORLD/me...6/rafah.death/
http://www.guardian.co.uk/israel/Sto...066817,00.html
http://www.rachelcorrie.org/

http://www.thenausea.com/elements/th...hel/index.html

http://www.guardian.co.uk/israel/Sto...916299,00.html
http://www.omjp.org/rachelphotos.html
http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...=Palestinian+p
eople


http://www.nogw.com/israeliatrocities.html
http://www.palestinefacts.org/index.php
http://www.palestinechronicle.com/st...2917164320.htm
http://thirdworldtraveler.com/Israel...ortureBan.html

http://www.washington-report.org/bac...97/9701007.htm

Christian homes being knocked down???
http://sf.indymedia.org/news/2003/05/1607911.php


(Wanderer, Oct. 12, 1989, p. 7; National Review, March 16, 1992, p. S-5).

Israeli soldiers can beat up a priest on the West Bank, then shoot up his
church during Mass, and only the Catholic press takes note...If Christians
had done such a thing to a synagogue, anywhere, it would have been
front-page news, everywhere. (Wanderer, Oct. 12, 1989, p. 7; National
Review, March 16, 1992, p. S-5).

Farmers harassed and shot in israel
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/3757004.stm
http://www.itszone.co.uk/zone0/viewtopic.php?t=53042


Zionist settler deliberately hits and kills Palestinian old man
http://www.palestine-info.co.uk/am/p...cle_3293.shtml
http://www.palestine-info.co.uk/am/p...cle_3396.shtml
http://******************/School_shooting.htm



http://groups.google.com/group/alt.p...msg/20deae4bed
c378ab?q=&rnum=1
In a letter to the conference host, UNESCO Director-General Koichiro
Matsuura,
the protesters said the Wiesenthal center, "under the deceitful cover of the
struggle against anti-Semitism, is on the contrary encouraging intolerance
and
racism in our societies."

Jon and David Kimche
http://www.********/jhr/v13/v13n4p29_Weber.html
The SS was particularly enthusiastic in its support for Zionism. An internal
June 1934 SS position paper urged active and wide-ranging support for
Zionism by the government and the Party as the best way to encourage
emigration of Germany's Jews to Palestine.

The Jewish Agency delegation headed by Golda Meir (Meirson) ignored a German
offer to allow Jews to emigrate to other countries for $250 a head, and the
other Jewish groups made no effort to influence the United States and the
32 other countries attending the conference to allow immigration of German
and Austrian Jews.
http://www.jews-for-allah.org/Jews-n...lped-nazis-hit
ler.htm


Marlon Brando.
http://www.theunjustmedia.com/ben%20...a%20control.ht
m

If one wants to exterminate an entire race, one would start with the leaders
first and

Why did Rabbi Baeck never leave the Third Reich

On March 24, 1933, the Jewish World Congress, then under the leadership of
Chaim
Holocaust Calendar
Jewish dominance

Rabbi to Publish Book on Jewish Supremacy
.... One is Rabbi Saadya Grama, author of an upcoming book "On the Exalted
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The Jews declared war against Germany
On March 24, 1933, the Jewish World Congress, then under the leadership of
Chaim Weizman, declared war on Germany on behalf of the Jews of the world.
http://www.corax.org/revisionism/misc/encampment.html


http://www.rense.com/general45/zzo.htm
The Zionist Jewish Role In - Causing World War II
"In 1941, a Jewish writer, Theodor N. Kaufman, wrote Germany Must Perish.
Kaufman set out a plan for the total destruction of the German population by
a very simple method: the mass sterilisation of all German men and women
between the age of puberty and sixty years."

From a pre-1993 edition of John Tyndall's Spearhead magazine
12-9-3



http://www.corax.org/revisionism/misc/encampment.html
Immediately after Japan declared war on the United States of America, the
order was issued to round up all Americans of Japanese ancestry and imprison
them in large camps. A declaration of war entitles any nation to imprison
its enemy and their sympathizers.
On March 24, 1933, the Jewish World Congress, then under the leadership of
Chaim Weizman, declared war on Germany on behalf of the Jews of the world.
The basic question arises; what were the Germans supposed to do with their
large Jewish population?

http://www.heretical.com/mkilliam/wwii.html
That second war was later made certain, not by the intentions of Hitler but
by the determination of his eternal enemies to destroy the new Germany that
he had created.
By the Treaty of Versailles on 28 June 1919 and the Treaty of St. Germain on
20 September of the same year, the German people were thoroughly humiliated.
The British Prime Minister, Lloyd George, wrote:
'The international bankers swept statesmen, politicians, journalists and
jurists all to one side and issued their orders with the imperiousness of
absolute monarchs.'




http://www.msnbc.com/news/606092.asp?0si=-&cp1=1
Who has said, America and Israel? I'll pick Israel every time. That is a guy
who was educated, worked in intelligence in the air force in America
ALIEN CONTROL
Is US like Germany of the '30s? Published on Friday, June 11, 2004 by the
Chicago Sun Times by Andrew Greeley
http://www.commondreams.org/views04/0611-10.htm

The Daily Mail reported on 10 July 1933:
'The German nation, moreover, was rapidly falling under the control of its
alien elements. In the last days of the pre-Hitler regime there were twenty
times as many Jewish government officials in Germany as had existed before
the war. Israelites of international attachments were insinuating themselves
into key positions in the German administrative machine.'
Resentment and resistance began to build up against the alien horde and in
the year before Adolf Hitler came to power Bernard Lecache, President of the
World Jewish League, stated:
'Germany is our public enemy number one. It is our object to declare war
without mercy against her.'
On that same day, 24 March 1933, on the front page of the London Daily
Express appeared the main headlines: "Judaea declares war on Germany: Jews
of all the world unite", and followed with:
'The Israelite people of the entire world declare economic and financial war
on Germany. The appearance of the Swastika as the symbol of the new Germany
revives the old war symbol of the Jews. Fourteen million Jews stand as one
body to declare war on Germany. The Jewish wholesale dealer leaves his
business, the banker his bank, the shopkeeper his shop, the beggar his
miserable hut in order to combine forces in the holy war against Hitler's
people.'
The German government was removing Jews from influential positions and
transferring power back to the German people. This declaration of war by the
Jews on Germany was repeated throughout the world. The first boycott of
Jewish business concerns came after this Jewish declaration of war in April
1933.


http://www.us-israel.org/jsource/Holocaust/stlouis.html

http://www.jewsagainstzionism.com/op...nnonfodder.htm
We implore and beseech our Jewish brethren to realize that the Zionists are
not the saviours of the Jewish People and guarantors of their safety, but
rather the instigators and original cause of Jewish suffering in the Holy
Land and worldwide.


http://www.aldeilis.net/zion/zionhol01.html

The Zionist Federation of Germany (ZVfD), an organisation representing a
tiny minority of German Jews, was selected by the Nazis as the body to
represent the Jews of the Reich.
The best example of this was the 'Transfer Agreement' of 1934. Immediately
after the Nazi takeover in 1933, Jews all over the world supported or were
organising a world wide boycott of German goods. This campaign hurt the Nazi
regime and the German authorities searched frantically for a way disabling
the boycott. It was clear that if Jews and Jewish organisations were to pull
out, the campaign would collapse.
This problem was solved by the ZVfD. A letter sent to the Nazi party as
early as 21.6.33, outlined the degree of agreement that existed between the
two organisations on the questions of race, nation, and the nature of the
'Jewish problem', and it offered to collaborate with the new regime:

In their eagerness to gain credence and the backing of the new regime, the
Zionist organisation managed to undermine the boycott. The main public act
was the signature of the 'Transfer Agreement' with the Nazi authorities
during the Zionist Congress of 1934. In essence, the agreement was designed
to get Germany's Jews out of the country and into Mandate Palestine. It
provided a possibility for Jews to take a sizeable part of their property
out of the country, through a transfer of German goods to Palestine. This
right was denied to Jews leaving for any other destination (emphasis - ED).
The Zionist Organisation was the acting agent, through its financial
organisations. This agreement operated on a number of fronts 'helping' Jews
to leave the country, breaking the ring of the boycott, exporting German
goods in large quantities to Palestine, and last but not least, enabling the
regime to be seen as humane and reasonable even towards its avowed enemies,
the Jews. After all, they argued, the Jews do not belong in Europe and now
the Jews come and agree with them.

After news of the agreement broke, the boycott was doomed. If the Zionist
Organisation found it possible and necessary to deal with the Nazis, and
import their goods, who could argue for a boycott? This was not the first
time that the interests of both movements were presented to the German
public as complementary. Baron Von Mildenstein, the first head of the Jewish
Department of the SS, later followed by Eichmann, was invited to travel to
Palestine. This he did in early 1933, in the company of a Zionist leader,
Kurt Tuchler. Having spent six months in Palestine, he wrote a series of
favourable articles in Der Sturmer describing the 'new Jew' of Zionism, a
Jew Nazis could accept and understand.








The declared enemy was now right in the middle of their country. Bankers,
industrialists, media moguls, movie producers, merchants, and others,
overnight became enemies of Germany.
No nation in the world would have allowed their declared enemies to freely
roam around the country. The Germans, however, never implemented measures
against the Jews as drastic as the United States did with their Japanese
citizens.

http://www.corax.org/revisionism/misc/encampment.html
On March 24, 1933, the Jewish World Congress, then under the leadership of
Chaim Weizman, declared war on Germany on behalf of the Jews of the world.

thousands of Jews were not bothered by the Nazis or by the fate of their
"convicted" co-religionists. They went on with their daily lives in Germany
while the world was running amok about the "harsh treatment of Jews in
Germany." To illustrate the true "fate of the Jews," one has to look at some
of the prominent Jewish leaders living in Germany at the time.
These are very important questions, because so many prominent Jews survived
the alleged Holocaust. Simon Wiesenthal, Eli Wiesel, Leo Baeck, Max
Nussbaum, and so many more like them. As a matter of fact, approximately 4.5
million Jews "survived."

Why did Rabbi Baeck never leave the Third Reich, the land of concentration
camps and "gas chambers," with all the other 300,000 German Jews who were
allowed to leave for more lucrative lands?


By all accounts, Rabbi Dr. Leo Baeck must have had a very comfortable
existence under the National Socialist Government in Germany. Born in 1873
in Posen, he became a Rabbi in 1897 in Oppeln/Silesia. Interestingly, he was
a Rabbi in Berlin from 1912 until 1943, when he himself was interned at the
Theresienstadt camp, a camp where most of the prominent Jews and resistance
activists were housed. After the war Leo Baeck immigrated to England.

Why did Rabbi Baeck never leave the Third Reich, the land of concentration
camps and "gas chambers," with all the other 300,000 German Jews who were
allowed to leave for more lucrative lands?

Another question should be put to all those false Holocaust "experts" by
asking them how many Jews were gassed in Dachau? As a matter of fact, no one
was ever "gassed" in Germany, or in territories under German control, as has
been established in court

In Schuld und Schicksal (Guilt and Fate) Burg dealt with the Warsaw and Lodz
ghettos. When the German troops occupied Warsaw, they wanted to concentrate
the Jewish population. Real ghettos had been there for centuries but the
assimilated or emancipated Jews had lived far way from the ghettos. Now the
Germans wanted to have the Jews all together. In a practical sense, the
ghetto was also organized for the protection of the Jewish population.
(26-6885, 6886)
The Zionists were happy with this arrangement. An appointed Jewish Council
was the governing body of the ghetto. They had their own police, jails and
everything else. Naturally, there were some who were cruel. One of these was
the vice president of the police, who was later executed. In Burg's eyes,
this execution was evidence that Jews defended themselves against the
minority of Zionists who were using the majority of Jews for their own
purposes. (26-6886, 6887)

Then, when hundreds of thousands of civilians died in massive Allied bombing
raids against German civilians ... and only then ... Rabbi Baeck got out.
And where did he go? To Theresienstadt, because the concentration camp was
never bombed by the Allies, and was the safest place for a Jew to be.
Why did Rabbi Baeck never leave the Third Reich, the land of concentration
camps and "gas chambers," with all the other 300,000 German Jews who were
allowed to leave for more lucrative lands?
It must have been relatively easy to leave Germany. Max Nussbaum, Chief
Rabbi of Berlin until 1940 (who later became Chief Rabbi of Beverly Hills,
CA), immigrated to New York at the advice of Rabbi Stephen Wise. Did Rabbi
Wise already know of the coming war between the United States and Germany in
1940?
One must assume that Rabbi Baeck knew about Rabbi Nussbaum's plan to move to
New York, but again Baeck remained in Berlin. A riddle to be sure, unless
the horrors of Nazism were not that horrible for the Jews after all.
Ø > IS IT TRUE that in 1941 and again in 1942, the German Gestapo offered
all
> > European Jews transit to Spain, if they would relinquish all their
property
> > in Germany and Occupied France; on condition that:
> > a) none of the deportees travel from Spain to Palestine;<

YES THAT OFFER WAS MADE. THE JEWS CAN THANK THE ZIONISTS WHO DECLINED FOR
THEIR VARIOUS REASONS.
Under the guise of "love of Israel", the Zionist "statesmen" seduced many
Jews to replace devotion to the Torah and its Sages with devotion to the
scoundrel who founded Zionism
http://www.jewsnotzionists.org/tenquestions.htm
The Jewish Agency delegation headed by Golda Meir (Meirson) ignored a German
offer to allow Jews to emigrate to other countries for $250 a head, and the
other Jewish groups made no effort to influence the United States and the
32 other countries attending the conference to allow immigration of German
and Austrian Jews.
http://www.jews-for-allah.org/Jews-n...lped-nazis-hit
ler.htm
Ø



By Max Hastings

LONDON: Whatever the outcome of the current Palestinian chaos, meaningful
negotiations with Israel seem unlikely. The most plausible scenario is that
Ehud Olmert will proceed unilaterally to draw new boundaries for his
country, which will absorb significant Palestinian land, and
institutionalise such dominance of the West Bank as to make a Palestinian
state unworkable.

If this is the future, it is likely to yield fruits as bitter for Israelis
as for Palestinians. The world, far from becoming more willing to acquiesce
in Israel's expansion, is becoming less so. The generation of European
non-Jews for whom the Holocaust is a seminal memory is dying. With them
perishes much vicarious guilt.

Younger Europeans, not to mention the rest of the world, are more sceptical
about Israel's territorial claims. They are less susceptible to moral
arguments about redress for past horrors, which have underpinned Israeli
actions for almost 60 years. We may hope that it will never become
respectable to be anti-semitic.

However, Israel is discovering that it can no longer frighten non-Jews out
of opposing its policies merely by accusing them of anti-semitism.

There is also evidence of growing disenchantment with Israel in the Jewish
diaspora. Feelings have changed since 1948 and the days when Jews around the
world thought it a duty to support "their" nation in the promised land right
or wrong, in good times or bad. David Goldberg, the former rabbi of the
Liberal Jewish Synagogue in London, has just published a book that will
rouse plenty of wrath in Israel. Entitled The Divided Self, its theme is
that in modern times the Jews of the diaspora have preserved the honour and
heritage of the Jewish people far more convincingly than Israel's citizens.

Goldberg, whom I should acknowledge as a friend, rejects the Zionist conceit
that the only proper place for Jews is in Israel. He discerns an unhealthy
artificiality about the society constructed beside the Mediterranean since
1948: "to assert itself, it must be rigid and inflexible". He notes that
while genealogy has become a popular enthusiasm of diaspora Jews, Israelis
prefer archaeology, "pursuing the distant past to authenticate an ancient
connection with the land" in the absence of any more recent claim.

He tells a good story of returning on a boat from Israel to Marseilles in
1958, after a stint on a kibbutz. His efforts to make headway with pretty
blond American passengers were thwarted by the presence of a tanned,
muscular Israeli paratrooper, who effortlessly cut him out. When the boat
stopped at Naples, this hero of Sinai announced that he was off to buy a
watch. Beware of fakes, advised Goldberg, magnanimous in sexual defeat. The
soldier ignored him, and was later seen hurling a worthless purchase into
the sea.

If we were talking about Christians here, it might be called a parable.
Goldberg believes that Israel has allowed military prowess to blind it to
wisdom: "the Jewish fox knows many things, the Jewish hedgehog only one big
thing". Or you may prefer a Talmudic saying: "better a live dog than a dead
lion".

Goldberg defines the virtues of diaspora Jews, "adapting to novel
circumstances and responding to changing times", in terms that would rouse
the contempt of many Israelis. "Two thousand years of powerlessness have
honed the antennae to detect where self-interest lies, what is on or not on
.... The experience ... of learning to live circumspectly among more numerous
and powerful neighbours is a surer guarantee of survival than the
triumphalist illusions of a mere 50-odd years of statehood."

Some Israelis would say that this is the language of the ghetto, reflecting
a willingness to defer, even to cringe; of exactly the kind their state was
created to remove from the Jewish psyche.

Yet Goldberg's book reflects a declining willingness among many diaspora
Jews to write blank cheques for Israel, either literally or figuratively.

It is a painful experience for some Jews who achieve good and even great
things in their own societies to find themselves cast as sin-eaters for the
Jewish state.

Most are reluctant to speak out as frankly against Israel's West Bank
policies as Goldberg has, and as did the late and great Rabbi John Rayner,
who came here from Germany with the kindertransport. But with each
generation the emotional distance between Israel and the diaspora is
growing.-Dawn/The Guardian News Service