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15-Year-Old Boy Gets Six Years In State Prison For Thoughtcrime

by Winter Patriot | October 7, 2006

From CBS News:

A 15-year-old boy who prosecutors said was the mastermind of a
failed plot to go on a shooting spree in a suburban school was
sentenced Friday to six years in state prison.

Edwin DeLeon and three other teens pleaded guilty earlier this
year to scheming to shoot teachers and students in April. Authorities
said they planned to open fire at Winslow Township High School in
Camden County, where DeLeon and two of the others were students, and
then turn their guns on other people in the community.

Despite attempts, the teens in the Philadelphia suburb were never
able to get a gun. School officials heard about the plans and the boys
were arrested before anyone was hurt.

We have a few more details from the (South Jersey) Courier Post
Online:

Initially charge[d] with terrorism, the four were arrested after a
girlfriend of one reported the plan to school officials.

All four admitted their role in the plan, two in juvenile court
and two in adult court. Those in juvenile court have yet to be
sentenced. The other in adult court -- Peter Cunningham, 16 -- was
sentenced on Sept. 22 to five years.

All four pleaded guilty to conspiring to possess a handgun.

So ... Let's recap, shall we?

Charged with terrorism, guilty of conspiring to possess a handgun.

Six years for the fifteen-year-old would-be "mastermind".

Five years for his sixteen-year-old would-be accomplice.

The others are too young to talk about.

And they didn't even have a gun!

===
--

"Lievebeheersbeestjes"

On Sun, 22 Oct 2006 15:43:02 +0200, theo1610
<tvbeuningen16@16=1hotmeel.com> wrote:

>15-Year-Old Boy Gets Six Years In State Prison For Thoughtcrime

> Edwin DeLeon and three other teens pleaded guilty earlier this
>year to scheming to shoot teachers and students in April. Authorities
>said they planned to open fire at Winslow Township High School in
>Camden County, where DeLeon and two of the others were students, and
>then turn their guns on other people in the community.

1) terecht en ze hebben bekend.
2) wat is de relevantie voor de politiek in NL?

theo1610 wrote:

> 15-Year-Old Boy Gets Six Years In State Prison For Thoughtcrime
>
> by Winter Patriot | October 7, 2006
>
> From CBS News:
>
> A 15-year-old boy who prosecutors said was the mastermind of a
> failed plot to go on a shooting spree in a suburban school was
> sentenced Friday to six years in state prison.
>
> Edwin DeLeon and three other teens pleaded guilty earlier this
> year to scheming to shoot teachers and students in April. Authorities
> said they planned to open fire at Winslow Township High School in
> Camden County, where DeLeon and two of the others were students, and
> then turn their guns on other people in the community.
>
> Despite attempts, the teens in the Philadelphia suburb were never
> able to get a gun. School officials heard about the plans and the boys
> were arrested before anyone was hurt.
>
> We have a few more details from the (South Jersey) Courier Post
> Online:
>
> Initially charge[d] with terrorism, the four were arrested after a
> girlfriend of one reported the plan to school officials.
>
> All four admitted their role in the plan, two in juvenile court
> and two in adult court. Those in juvenile court have yet to be
> sentenced. The other in adult court -- Peter Cunningham, 16 -- was
> sentenced on Sept. 22 to five years.
>
> All four pleaded guilty to conspiring to possess a handgun.
>
> So ... Let's recap, shall we?
>
> Charged with terrorism, guilty of conspiring to possess a handgun.
>
> Six years for the fifteen-year-old would-be "mastermind".
>
> Five years for his sixteen-year-old would-be accomplice.
>
> The others are too young to talk about.
>
> And they didn't even have a gun!

Typische Amerikaanse folklore.

--
Steven

Hans wrote:
>
>
> 1) terecht en ze hebben bekend.

Waarom? Possession of a handgun is toch niet zo'n ernstig feit
in the USA? In feite mag dat daar gewoon, dacht ik! En dus is
"conspiring to possess a handgun" al helemaal niet strafbaar,
lijkt mij!

> 2) wat is de relevantie voor de politiek in NL?

De vraag of de rechteloosheid van burgers hier ook zo ersntig
kan worden als in die USA! (Theo vergat inderdaad om dat uit
te leggen, hij had helemaal niet aan jou gedacht, vrees ik.)

(J)

"De Joker ©" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Hans wrote:
> >
> >
> > 1) terecht en ze hebben bekend.
>
> Waarom? Possession of a handgun is toch niet zo'n ernstig feit
> in the USA? In feite mag dat daar gewoon, dacht ik! En dus is
> "conspiring to possess a handgun" al helemaal niet strafbaar,
> lijkt mij!
>
> > 2) wat is de relevantie voor de politiek in NL?
>
> De vraag of de rechteloosheid van burgers hier ook zo ersntig
> kan worden als in die USA! (Theo vergat inderdaad om dat uit
> te leggen, hij had helemaal niet aan jou gedacht, vrees ik.)

Bekend en oud thema:

Pink Floyd

We don't need no education.
We don't need no thought control.
No dark sarcasm in the classroom.
Teacher leave the kids alone.
Hey, teacher leave the kids alone!
All in all it's just another brick in the wall.
All in all you're just another brick in the wall
A

Anneke.A wrote:
> "De Joker ©" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> Hans wrote:

>> > 2) wat is de relevantie voor de politiek in NL?
>>
>> De vraag of de rechteloosheid van burgers hier ook zo ersntig
>> kan worden als in die USA! (Theo vergat inderdaad om dat uit
>> te leggen, hij had helemaal niet aan jou gedacht, vrees ik.)
>
> Bekend en oud thema:
>
> Pink Floyd
>
> We don't need no education.
> We don't need no thought control.
> No dark sarcasm in the classroom.
> Teacher leave the kids alone.
> Hey, teacher leave the kids alone!
> All in all it's just another brick in the wall.
> All in all you're just another brick in the wall

Ach gut, die vervelende disco-stamper van Pink Floyd! All in all
they were just another band... (zonder Syd althans.)

(J)

"De Joker ©" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Anneke.A wrote:
> > "De Joker ©" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> >> Hans wrote:
>
> >> > 2) wat is de relevantie voor de politiek in NL?
> >>
> >> De vraag of de rechteloosheid van burgers hier ook zo ersntig
> >> kan worden als in die USA! (Theo vergat inderdaad om dat uit
> >> te leggen, hij had helemaal niet aan jou gedacht, vrees ik.)
> >
> > Bekend en oud thema:
> >
> > Pink Floyd
> >
> > We don't need no education.
> > We don't need no thought control.
> > No dark sarcasm in the classroom.
> > Teacher leave the kids alone.
> > Hey, teacher leave the kids alone!
> > All in all it's just another brick in the wall.
> > All in all you're just another brick in the wall
>
> Ach gut, die vervelende disco-stamper van Pink Floyd! All in all
> they were just another band... (zonder Syd althans.)

Gedachte misdaad kan niet volgens de VS constitutie. Dat is iets voor een
religie.

A.

De Joker © wrote:
> Hans wrote:
> >
> >
> > 1) terecht en ze hebben bekend.
>
> Waarom? Possession of a handgun is toch niet zo'n ernstig feit
> in the USA? In feite mag dat daar gewoon, dacht ik! En dus is
> "conspiring to possess a handgun" al helemaal niet strafbaar,
> lijkt mij!

De minimum leeftijd voor het kopen en bezit van een handgun (pistool of
revolver) hangt van de staat af. In Pennsylvania is de staatswet:

"Subject to certain exceptions, a person under the age of 18 shall not
possess or transport a firearm anywhere in the Commonwealth. 18 Pa.
Cons. Stat. Ann. § 6110.1(a). This prohibition does not apply to a
minor who is under the supervision of a parent, grandparent, legal
guardian, or an adult acting with the permission of the minor's parent
or legal guardian and the minor is engaged in lawful activity, such as
safety training, target shooting, or organized firearm competition."

http://www.lcav.org/states/pennsylva...urchasePossess

-Mr. Noise Guy
Orangevale, California, U.S.A.

Mr. Noise Guy, while smelling of right-wing crap, wrote:

> "Subject to certain exceptions, a person under the age of 18 shall not
> possess or transport a firearm anywhere in the Commonwealth. 18 Pa.
> Cons. Stat. Ann. § 6110.1(a). This prohibition does not apply to a
> minor who is under the supervision of a parent, grandparent, legal
> guardian, or an adult acting with the permission of the minor's parent
> or legal guardian and the minor is engaged in lawful activity, such as
> safety training, target shooting, or organized firearm competition."
>
> http://www.lcav.org/states/pennsylva...urchasePossess

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f47cSYRDIYo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6waWS0Y3Ubc

Cat B. wrote:
>
> Mr. Noise Guy, while smelling of right-wing crap, wrote:
>
>> "Subject to certain exceptions, a person under the age of 18 shall not
>> possess or transport a firearm anywhere in the Commonwealth. 18 Pa.
>> Cons. Stat. Ann. § 6110.1(a). This prohibition does not apply to a
>> minor who is under the supervision of a parent, grandparent, legal
>> guardian, or an adult acting with the permission of the minor's parent
>> or legal guardian and the minor is engaged in lawful activity, such as
>> safety training, target shooting, or organized firearm competition."
>>
>> http://www.lcav.org/states/pennsylva...urchasePossess
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f47cSYRDIYo
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6waWS0Y3Ubc

Ja, mooi. Wat is nu je argument, Cat? (En wat betekenen al
die schuine steepjes? En wat is een "6waWS0Y3Ubc"?)

(J)

On Sun, 22 Oct 2006 16:50:35 +0200, De Joker ©
<[email protected]> wrote:

>Hans wrote:
>>
>>
>> 1) terecht en ze hebben bekend.
>
>Waarom? Possession of a handgun is toch niet zo'n ernstig feit
>in the USA? In feite mag dat daar gewoon, dacht ik! En dus is
>"conspiring to possess a handgun" al helemaal niet strafbaar,
>lijkt mij!
>
>> 2) wat is de relevantie voor de politiek in NL?
>
>De vraag of de rechteloosheid van burgers hier ook zo ersntig
>kan worden als in die USA! (Theo vergat inderdaad om dat uit
>te leggen, hij had helemaal niet aan jou gedacht, vrees ik.)
>
>(J)

Ja, want laten we eerlijk zijn, wie van ons heeft vroeger ook nooit
zelf met een paar vrienden een plan gesmeed om lukraak een paar
schoolgenoten overhoop te schieten?

On Sun, 22 Oct 2006 19:29:29 +0200, "Anneke.A" <[email protected]>
wrote:

>
>"De Joker ©" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:[email protected]...
>> Anneke.A wrote:
>> > "De Joker ©" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> >> Hans wrote:
>>
>> >> > 2) wat is de relevantie voor de politiek in NL?
>> >>
>> >> De vraag of de rechteloosheid van burgers hier ook zo ersntig
>> >> kan worden als in die USA! (Theo vergat inderdaad om dat uit
>> >> te leggen, hij had helemaal niet aan jou gedacht, vrees ik.)
>> >
>> > Bekend en oud thema:
>> >
>> > Pink Floyd
>> >
>> > We don't need no education.
>> > We don't need no thought control.
>> > No dark sarcasm in the classroom.
>> > Teacher leave the kids alone.
>> > Hey, teacher leave the kids alone!
>> > All in all it's just another brick in the wall.
>> > All in all you're just another brick in the wall
>>
>> Ach gut, die vervelende disco-stamper van Pink Floyd! All in all
>> they were just another band... (zonder Syd althans.)
>
>Gedachte misdaad kan niet volgens de VS constitutie. Dat is iets voor een
>religie.
>
>A.
Ben ik nou de enige die dit niet meer kan volgen.

Goodcowboy wrote:
> On Sun, 22 Oct 2006 19:29:29 +0200, "Anneke.A" <[email protected]>
...
...
>>> > All in all it's just another brick in the wall.
>>> > All in all you're just another brick in the wall
>>>
>>> Ach gut, die vervelende disco-stamper van Pink Floyd! All in all
>>> they were just another band... (zonder Syd althans.)
>>
>> Gedachte misdaad kan niet volgens de VS constitutie. Dat is iets voor
>> een religie.
>>
>>A.
> Ben ik nou de enige die dit niet meer kan volgen.

Ja hoor. Maak je maar geen zorgen!

(J)

"Several Species of Small Furry Animals Gathered
Together in a Cave and Grooving With a Pict"

De Joker © wrote:
> Cat B. wrote:
> >
> > Mr. Noise Guy, while smelling of right-wing crap, wrote:
> >
> >> "Subject to certain exceptions, a person under the age of 18 shall not
> >> possess or transport a firearm anywhere in the Commonwealth. 18 Pa.
> >> Cons. Stat. Ann. § 6110.1(a). This prohibition does not apply to a
> >> minor who is under the supervision of a parent, grandparent, legal
> >> guardian, or an adult acting with the permission of the minor's parent
> >> or legal guardian and the minor is engaged in lawful activity, such as
> >> safety training, target shooting, or organized firearm competition."
> >>
> >> http://www.lcav.org/states/pennsylva...urchasePossess
> >
> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f47cSYRDIYo
> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6waWS0Y3Ubc
>
> Ja, mooi. Wat is nu je argument, Cat? (En wat betekenen al
> die schuine steepjes? En wat is een "6waWS0Y3Ubc"?)

Hij/zij is een typische left winger. Gebeurt wel vaker onder hen (het
niets te zeggen) Wat wel problematisch is dat de Democrats hier in
de States de Muslim stemmen zoeken.

-Mr. Noise Guy
Orangevale, California, U.S.A.

> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f47cSYRDIYo
> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6waWS0Y3Ubc
>
> Ja, mooi. Wat is nu je argument, Cat? (En wat betekenen al
> die schuine steepjes? En wat is een "6waWS0Y3Ubc"?)

Dat diende slechts één doel: Mensen als jij ermee irriteren.
Kennelijk gelukt.

Cat B. wrote:
>
>> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f47cSYRDIYo
>> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6waWS0Y3Ubc
>>
>> Ja, mooi. Wat is nu je argument, Cat? (En wat betekenen al
>> die schuine steepjes? En wat is een "6waWS0Y3Ubc"?)
>
> Dat diende slechts één doel: Mensen als jij ermee irriteren.
> Kennelijk gelukt.

Maar Cat! Hoe zou ik daar nu door geirriteerd kunnen zijn? Ik
houd juist erg van surrealisme. Ik lees altijd met veel plezier
al jouw postjes!

(J)

De Joker © wrote:
> Cat B. wrote:
>> Mr. Noise Guy, while smelling of right-wing crap, wrote:
>>
>>> "Subject to certain exceptions, a person under the age of 18 shall not
>>> possess or transport a firearm anywhere in the Commonwealth. 18 Pa.
>>> Cons. Stat. Ann. § 6110.1(a). This prohibition does not apply to a
>>> minor who is under the supervision of a parent, grandparent, legal
>>> guardian, or an adult acting with the permission of the minor's parent
>>> or legal guardian and the minor is engaged in lawful activity, such as
>>> safety training, target shooting, or organized firearm competition."
>>>
>>> http://www.lcav.org/states/pennsylva...urchasePossess
>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f47cSYRDIYo


>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6waWS0Y3Ubc

Deze is 'oei'


JayJBee
"ghehehe"

>
> Ja, mooi. Wat is nu je argument, Cat? (En wat betekenen al
> die schuine steepjes? En wat is een "6waWS0Y3Ubc"?)
>
> (J)
>