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oz457 · 27 oktober 2006, 02:26

[SIZE=4]Nog eens een duidelijk signaal hoe achterlijk de islam wel is....
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Australians rage at Muslim's rape defence
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Sydney (dpa) - Australia's top Muslim cleric was roundly condemned Thursday for saying women who didn't wear a veil were asking to be raped.

"They are appalling and reprehensible comments," Prime Minister John Howard said. "The idea that women are to blame for rapes is preposterous."

Sex Discrimination Commissioner Pru Goward accused Sheik Taj Din al-Hilali of inciting sexual assault by excusing the perpetrators while blaming the victims.

She said the Egyptian-born Mufti of Australia should be deported. "It's time we stopped just saying he should apologise," Goward said of the leader of Australia's 350,000 Muslims. "I think it's time he left."

Al-Hilali likened unveiled women to "uncovered meat" in a fasting month sermon in Arabic to 500 worshippers at Sydney's biggest mosque.

"If you take out uncovered meat and place it outside on the street, or in the garden, or in the park, or in the backyard without a cover, and the cats come and eat it ... whose fault is it, the cats' or the uncovered meat? The uncovered meat is the problem," he said.

Al-Hilali told the congregation he leads that a woman who stayed home and was veiled would be safe from sexual assault. "If she was in her room, in her home, in her hajib (veil), no problem would have occurred."

The 66-year-old apologized for the comments, saying he had "only intended to protect women's honour."

Al-Hilali, who serves on Howard's handpicked 14-member Muslim advisory board, has stirred controversy before. He has defended suicide bombers who strike at Israel, described as "God's work" the 2001 terrorist attacks in the United States, and blamed Jews for "all the wars and problems that threaten the peace and stability of all the world."

Al-Hilali, who rarely speaks in English despite having lived in Australia for 20 years, was also blasted by Treasurer Peter Costello, the deputy leader of Howard's Liberal Party.

"This is totally unacceptable," Costello said. "This is comparing women to uncovered meat."

Costello was the first in the government to raise the possibility that Islamic extremists could be deported if they held another country's passport as well as an Australian one.

"If you have a significant religious leader like this preaching to a flock in a situation where we have had gang rapes ... then people that listen to that kind of comment can get the wrong idea," Costello said.

His reference was to a series of gang rapes of white women by Muslim men in Sydney in 2000 in which the victims were told they were targeted because they were "Aussie pigs."

Sophie Mirabella, also a Liberal Party lawmaker, called for the mufti to be sacked and for all 14 of Howard's Muslim advisors to stand up and condemn his views on women.

"I have a message for Sheik al-Hilai: this is Australia, not Iran, and violence and degradation of women is not acceptable," she said.

Waleed Aly, a spokesman for the Islamic Council of Victoria, condemned al-Hilali and called for his resignation, saying his views sought to normalize immoral sexual behaviour.

"It's basically saying that the immoral response of men to women who are not fully covered is as natural and as inevitable as the response of an animal tempted by food," Aly said. "But men are people who have moral responsibilities and the capability in engaging in moral action."

Aly said he fully expected a backlash. "I am expecting a deluge of hate mail," he said. "I am expecting people to get abused in the street and get abused at work."

He added: "The idea that somehow victims on that occasion (the Sydney gang rapes) were to blame, or in any way invited that sort of assault, is probably the most disgusting comment we will see in the country for a very long time."[/SIZE][/SIZE]

Starkan · 27 oktober 2006, 03:15

Zou je dat niet beter bij het forumonderdeel : 'threads met racistische intenties' posten.

of

hier: Religies en andere levensovertuigingen.

Kleine bronvermelding, vertaling.. neen?

misschien?

niet?

Jantje · 27 oktober 2006, 06:47

Jongen, onze politici zijn hier allang van op de hoogte.

Ze weten enkel niet meer hoe ze het moeten aanpakken, zonder een 3WW te krijgen.
En in Belgie willen ze er wel iets aandoen, maar ze willen dat op zo'n manier doen dat ze tegen het VB kunnen zeggen, zie je nu wel het kan ook op een andere manier dan deze die jullie verkondingen.

27 oktober 2006, 02:26	#1
oz457 Lokaal Raadslid Geregistreerd: 7 april 2004 Berichten: 316	Politiekers in België en Europa moeten hun ogen openen: [SIZE=4]Nog eens een duidelijk signaal hoe achterlijk de islam wel is.... ----- Australians rage at Muslim's rape defence [SIZE=2] Sydney (dpa) - Australia's top Muslim cleric was roundly condemned Thursday for saying women who didn't wear a veil were asking to be raped. "They are appalling and reprehensible comments," Prime Minister John Howard said. "The idea that women are to blame for rapes is preposterous." Sex Discrimination Commissioner Pru Goward accused Sheik Taj Din al-Hilali of inciting sexual assault by excusing the perpetrators while blaming the victims. She said the Egyptian-born Mufti of Australia should be deported. "It's time we stopped just saying he should apologise," Goward said of the leader of Australia's 350,000 Muslims. "I think it's time he left." Al-Hilali likened unveiled women to "uncovered meat" in a fasting month sermon in Arabic to 500 worshippers at Sydney's biggest mosque. "If you take out uncovered meat and place it outside on the street, or in the garden, or in the park, or in the backyard without a cover, and the cats come and eat it ... whose fault is it, the cats' or the uncovered meat? The uncovered meat is the problem," he said. Al-Hilali told the congregation he leads that a woman who stayed home and was veiled would be safe from sexual assault. "If she was in her room, in her home, in her hajib (veil), no problem would have occurred." The 66-year-old apologized for the comments, saying he had "only intended to protect women's honour." Al-Hilali, who serves on Howard's handpicked 14-member Muslim advisory board, has stirred controversy before. He has defended suicide bombers who strike at Israel, described as "God's work" the 2001 terrorist attacks in the United States, and blamed Jews for "all the wars and problems that threaten the peace and stability of all the world." Al-Hilali, who rarely speaks in English despite having lived in Australia for 20 years, was also blasted by Treasurer Peter Costello, the deputy leader of Howard's Liberal Party. "This is totally unacceptable," Costello said. "This is comparing women to uncovered meat." Costello was the first in the government to raise the possibility that Islamic extremists could be deported if they held another country's passport as well as an Australian one. "If you have a significant religious leader like this preaching to a flock in a situation where we have had gang rapes ... then people that listen to that kind of comment can get the wrong idea," Costello said. His reference was to a series of gang rapes of white women by Muslim men in Sydney in 2000 in which the victims were told they were targeted because they were "Aussie pigs." Sophie Mirabella, also a Liberal Party lawmaker, called for the mufti to be sacked and for all 14 of Howard's Muslim advisors to stand up and condemn his views on women. "I have a message for Sheik al-Hilai: this is Australia, not Iran, and violence and degradation of women is not acceptable," she said. Waleed Aly, a spokesman for the Islamic Council of Victoria, condemned al-Hilali and called for his resignation, saying his views sought to normalize immoral sexual behaviour. "It's basically saying that the immoral response of men to women who are not fully covered is as natural and as inevitable as the response of an animal tempted by food," Aly said. "But men are people who have moral responsibilities and the capability in engaging in moral action." Aly said he fully expected a backlash. "I am expecting a deluge of hate mail," he said. "I am expecting people to get abused in the street and get abused at work." He added: "The idea that somehow victims on that occasion (the Sydney gang rapes) were to blame, or in any way invited that sort of assault, is probably the most disgusting comment we will see in the country for a very long time."[/SIZE][/SIZE]

27 oktober 2006, 03:15	#2
Starkan Staatssecretaris Geregistreerd: 11 oktober 2006 Locatie: Een niet-Vlaams-nationalistische gemeente Berichten: 2.943	Zou je dat niet beter bij het forumonderdeel : 'threads met racistische intenties' posten. of hier: Religies en andere levensovertuigingen. Kleine bronvermelding, vertaling.. neen? misschien? niet?

27 oktober 2006, 06:47	#3
Jantje Secretaris-Generaal VN Geregistreerd: 11 augustus 2006 Berichten: 38.482	Jongen, onze politici zijn hier allang van op de hoogte. Ze weten enkel niet meer hoe ze het moeten aanpakken, zonder een 3WW te krijgen. En in Belgie willen ze er wel iets aandoen, maar ze willen dat op zo'n manier doen dat ze tegen het VB kunnen zeggen, zie je nu wel het kan ook op een andere manier dan deze die jullie verkondingen.