Nooit gedacht dat ik Duitse hiphop nog goed zou vinden

Den Ardennees · 14 juni 2009, 22:24

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gMqIuAJ92tM

Kallikles · 14 juni 2009, 22:29

Citaat:

Oorspronkelijk geplaatst door Den Ardennees

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gMqIuAJ92tM

Oei. Dringend een antidotum:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hkb3r9filcM

Everytime · 14 juni 2009, 22:54

Die Fanstatichen Vier - Die Da!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fIi7k69LG88

Eberhard Leclerc · 14 juni 2009, 23:20

Fox??Niet een hip hop nummer dus, niet eens hip trouwens. Wel loeiveel hits. Als je wat meeer R&B style van die man wil horen: Peter Fox - Schwarz zu Blau
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yphwz...eature=related

Maar de echte grote man in duitsland is natuurlijk: MASSIV met de beste Duitse hiphop ooit geproduceerd. De man heeft energie, flow, tekst, presence en beats. Supervet en controversieel.
Duitse R&B en hiphop die overigens nooit het niveau van de Franse (1996-2002) of de Nederlandse (2004-nu) haalt.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vMAAmSVxQdA (topper)
Massiv - Ghettolied

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cuZkp...eature=related (subtopper)
Massiv - Blut gegen Blut

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JQ3l_...eature=related (subsubtopper)
Massiv--M.A.S.S.I.V.

Massiv (uit Berlijn, uit de wijk Weddding) wordt in Duisburg aangevallen door Libanezen en concurrent rappers.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_6uVQ...eature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=af8d9...eature=related (niet al te sterrke samenwerking met de beroemde posse)
G-UNIT feat. MASSIV

Scarabaeida · 14 juni 2009, 23:22

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o9grJ-09KRM

globalmedia · 14 juni 2009, 23:25

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Oorspronkelijk geplaatst door Scarabaeida

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o9grJ-09KRM

geile hip hop!

Scarabaeida · 14 juni 2009, 23:29

Waarom beperken tot hiphop zeg ik dan.

beste vriend · 15 juni 2009, 08:28

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Oorspronkelijk geplaatst door globalmedia

geile hip hop!

wat een bende dikkenekken, die allochtonen zeg !

Den dikke Massiv, met zijn 120 kg, met 1 vuistslag van het podium geslagen !

En door een mede-allochtoon dan nog wel, die vind dat een goed moslim zich niet van onder tot boven hoort te tatoueren, dat is namelijk haram !

Pathetische stoeffer, ziekelijke grote muil !

HOUZEE ! · 15 juni 2009, 14:13

Erdbeben ! van Fettes Brot (zeg, schrijf de titels er eens bij want nu moet ik dat allemaal apart gaan openen )

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X3iS2g6Efuw

Derk de Tweede · 15 juni 2009, 14:27

Emo!

globalmedia · 15 juni 2009, 16:30

Citaat:

Oorspronkelijk geplaatst door beste vriend

wat een bende dikkenekken, die allochtonen zeg !

Den dikke Massiv, met zijn 120 kg, met 1 vuistslag van het podium geslagen !

En door een mede-allochtoon dan nog wel, die vind dat een goed moslim zich niet van onder tot boven hoort te tatoueren, dat is namelijk haram !

Pathetische stoeffer, ziekelijke grote muil !

dat is pure crap inderdaad,
ik had over deze geile tolle hip hop
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o9grJ-09KRM

illwill · 15 juni 2009, 16:40

Citaat:

Oorspronkelijk geplaatst door Den Ardennees

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gMqIuAJ92tM

Is ook geen hiphop.

illwill · 15 juni 2009, 16:45

Citaat:

Oorspronkelijk geplaatst door Eberhard Leclerc

Fox??Niet een hip hop nummer dus, niet eens hip trouwens. Wel loeiveel hits. Als je wat meeer R&B style van die man wil horen: Peter Fox - Schwarz zu Blau
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yphwz...eature=related

Maar de echte grote man in duitsland is natuurlijk: MASSIV met de beste Duitse hiphop ooit geproduceerd. De man heeft energie, flow, tekst, presence en beats. Supervet en controversieel.
Duitse R&B en hiphop die overigens nooit het niveau van de Franse (1996-2002) of de Nederlandse (2004-nu) haalt.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vMAAmSVxQdA (topper)
Massiv - Ghettolied

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cuZkp...eature=related (subtopper)
Massiv - Blut gegen Blut

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JQ3l_...eature=related (subsubtopper)
Massiv--M.A.S.S.I.V.

Massiv (uit Berlijn, uit de wijk Weddding) wordt in Duisburg aangevallen door Libanezen en concurrent rappers.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_6uVQ...eature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=af8d9...eature=related (niet al te sterrke samenwerking met de beroemde posse)
G-UNIT feat. MASSIV

Niet slecht, maar een topper vind ik het ook weer niet.

Den Ardennees · 15 juni 2009, 17:20

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Oorspronkelijk geplaatst door illwill

Is ook geen hiphop.

wat is het dan wel?

Eberhard Leclerc · 15 juni 2009, 20:40

Ik ben bepaald geen Bushido fan, ik vind hem muzikaal vlak en matig, maar de man is wel een fenomeen geworden in de Duitse muziek. Bushido is een Tunesische Duitser uit Tempelhof, Berlijn, die de nationalistische trom (de duitse) vrolijk roert en samenwerking met de neo´s de de extreem-rechtse Duitse rappers bepaald niet schuwt. Het leverde binnen de Duitse hiphop scene een mini oorlog op.....en heel veel publiciteit.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7m_oxNXvs5M
Nyze feat. Bushido & Chakuza - Geben Und Nehmen

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uj1aD8whj3E
Eko Fresh ft. Bushido - Ring Frei

Bushido-disss
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S2nJ1x8kXd8

Bushido bei Explosiv
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wa9vnFg0C3M

Een analyse van de politieke ontwikkelingen in de Duitse Muzik Szene.
Door Ruth Elkins, 2006:

Rap music and the far right: Germany goes gangsta
"A new wave of rap music is sweeping Germany: sexist, violent, often racist - and adored by neo-Nazis.
"If it doesn't work out with hip hop," shrugs Bushido, Germany's most notorious rap star, "then I'll just sell drugs."

It probably won't come to that. The 26-year-old half Tunisian Berliner is turning the world of German hip hop upside down. The child of a German mother and an immigrant father is attracting, against all normal logic, a massive audience of neo-Nazis who love his hard-edged, racist and nationalistic lyrics.

There has never been any doubting Bushido's bad boy credentials. He is currently, and not for the first time, in an Austrian jail, waiting to see if he must stand trial on GBH charges. Earlier this month, an unfortunate 20-year-old Austrian man made the mistake of wandering too close to Bushido's pimped-up 7 Series BMW. It is alleged the rapper and his two bodyguards suspected the man had punctured the tyres, and beat him senseless. Bushido could face 10 years in jail.

Bushido's latest brush with the law was par for the course for a true gangsta rapper. 50 Cent, Ja Rule, Snoop Dogg: all the American rap stars worth their platinum discs and pimped-out Hummers have had run-ins with the law or spent time behind bars. But there is something different about Bushido, a beefy man with five tattoos. He has sparked a huge debate in Germany, a country still new to gangsta rap, about how racist and offensive song lyrics can be before they become outright neo-Nazi propaganda.

Until very recently, true gangsta rap had been strictly an American import. Spotty German teenagers would don baseball caps and baggy jeans and listen to the likes of Snoop Dogg and 50 Cent rap about things that seemed to come from a different world - the streets of the American inner city ghettos. They were pretty offensive, of course, their songs laced with profoundly sexist content: all men were pimps; all women were bitches. Now Germany has its own gangsta rappers. Bushido is to the fore, joined by his foul-mouthed colleagues: Fler, Sido, B-Tight, Kool Savas, Eko Fresh, Brainless Wankers and a collective calling themselves Der Frauenartzt (the Gynaecologist.)

In the past year, these rappers who once could only dream of minor fame on the fringes of the Germany's parochial music industry have made it to the mainstream. Their CDs regularly top the charts, their loves lives are followed by the tabloids, their concerts are sold out. Yet they are declaring open warfare on Germany's safe and comfortable consensus society.

The new wave of German gangsta rap, says Aggro Berlin, the most successful and notorious of the Berlin independent record labels representing German rap stars, is simply reflective of the hard times in Germany, a country whose economy continues to dip in and out of recession and where unemployment nudges 5 million.

But Germany does not have ghettos or race riots, it is, say panicked politicians, in no way comparable with US culture. Germany's new found gangsta rap is glamorising a fantasy of American ghetto life which should be banned, not encouraged. Still, the likes of Bushido seem to want to polarise society. Even the titles of his raps are upsetting the authorities.

"Gang Bang" is a nauseating account of violent group sex. " Dreckstück" (Piece of Dirt) is entirely misogynistic and features the lyrics: "Just because you're a woman, doesn't mean I won't beat you till you're blue." Again and again the lyrics of Bushido and his gangsta rapper homies openly flirt with fascism. "Salutiert, steht stramm, Ich bin der Leader wie A," (Salute, stand to attention, I am the leader like 'A'), raps Bushido. The 'A', of course, stands for Adolf. A rap collective called Mor were heavily criticised for rapping lyrics where " Wack MCs" were sent to the "gas showers" and "children to the concentration camps."

Fler, 24, another Berlin bad boy went one further. His latest hit, " Neue Deutsche Welle" (New German Wave) which went gold within two weeks of its release, features the ultra nationalistic lyrics: "That is black, red, gold, hard and proud, you might not see it in me, but believe me, my mom (sic) is German". The CD was advertised with an adapted pre-Polish invasion Adolf Hitler quote: "From May 1st, we will shoot back". His name on the CD cover was written in Third Reich style gothic print. The video to "Neue Deutsche Welle", constantly played on Germany's rolling music channels is set in a deprived high-rise East Berlin estate and features German flag waving, a complete taboo, as well as the ultimate Nazi symbol, an eagle, landing on the rapper's shoulder. Rumours flew recently that he had called his producer, DJ Ilan a " money grabbing Jewish pig." Germany's newspapers were outraged, but Fler didn't bother to deny it. Germany's far-right party, The NPD has even recommended "Neue Deutsche Welle" to party members.

No wonder the German ultra right is so enthralled.

"Though I think it is wrong to over-exaggerate the problem, the far right are definitely getting more interested in German hip hop, more so since the genre become so popular in mainstream culture," says Hannes Loh, 34, a former anti-fascist rapper and co-author of the book, Kanak Planet: Hip Hop Between World Culture and Nazi Rap. "

Maximus Aurelius · 15 juni 2009, 22:49

Beste vrienden, we zien hier schromelijk de Duitse hip hop hype (inderdaad, drie h's, een dubbele stijlfiguur dus) B-Tight over het hoofd

Hier hun grootste hit:
'B-Tight' met 'der Neger Neger'
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EMgWbfuBNi0

beste vriend · 15 juni 2009, 22:51

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Oorspronkelijk geplaatst door globalmedia

dat is pure crap inderdaad,
ik had over deze geile tolle hip hop
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o9grJ-09KRM

Jij vind dat grappig ?

...
Je zakt nog meer in mijn 8ting...

globalmedia · 15 juni 2009, 22:55

Citaat:

Oorspronkelijk geplaatst door beste vriend

Jij vind dat grappig ?

...
Je zakt nog meer in mijn 8ting...

graag gedaan

Kallikles · 15 juni 2009, 22:59

Bushido!

Aggro Berlin, het label van Bushido, presenteert:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NORkE...eature=related

Eberhard Leclerc · 15 juni 2009, 23:06

Nog meer criminaliteitsverheerlijkende rechtsleunende rap. Net als Massiv en Bushido alluderen de boys op de typisch Duitse Korperkultur.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oERPP...eature=channel
AUTOMATIKK uit Neurenberg.

14 juni 2009, 23:20	#4
Eberhard Leclerc Secretaris-Generaal VN Geregistreerd: 12 mei 2009 Locatie: Kraainem Berichten: 29.759	Fox??Niet een hip hop nummer dus, niet eens hip trouwens. Wel loeiveel hits. Als je wat meeer R&B style van die man wil horen: Peter Fox - Schwarz zu Blau http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yphwz...eature=related Maar de echte grote man in duitsland is natuurlijk: MASSIV met de beste Duitse hiphop ooit geproduceerd. De man heeft energie, flow, tekst, presence en beats. Supervet en controversieel. Duitse R&B en hiphop die overigens nooit het niveau van de Franse (1996-2002) of de Nederlandse (2004-nu) haalt. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vMAAmSVxQdA (topper) Massiv - Ghettolied http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cuZkp...eature=related (subtopper) Massiv - Blut gegen Blut http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JQ3l_...eature=related (subsubtopper) Massiv--M.A.S.S.I.V. Massiv (uit Berlijn, uit de wijk Weddding) wordt in Duisburg aangevallen door Libanezen en concurrent rappers. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_6uVQ...eature=related http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=af8d9...eature=related (niet al te sterrke samenwerking met de beroemde posse) G-UNIT feat. MASSIV Laatst gewijzigd door Eberhard Leclerc : 14 juni 2009 om 23:25.

14 juni 2009, 23:22	#5
Scarabaeida Europees Commissaris Geregistreerd: 10 oktober 2004 Locatie: Ekeren Donk Berichten: 6.396	http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o9grJ-09KRM __________________ Vermijd woordenwisselingen met kletskousen: elk kreeg een tong, maar weinigen verstand. Disticha Catonis

14 juni 2009, 23:29	#7
Scarabaeida Europees Commissaris Geregistreerd: 10 oktober 2004 Locatie: Ekeren Donk Berichten: 6.396	Waarom beperken tot hiphop zeg ik dan. __________________ Vermijd woordenwisselingen met kletskousen: elk kreeg een tong, maar weinigen verstand. Disticha Catonis

15 juni 2009, 20:40	#15
Eberhard Leclerc Secretaris-Generaal VN Geregistreerd: 12 mei 2009 Locatie: Kraainem Berichten: 29.759	Ik ben bepaald geen Bushido fan, ik vind hem muzikaal vlak en matig, maar de man is wel een fenomeen geworden in de Duitse muziek. Bushido is een Tunesische Duitser uit Tempelhof, Berlijn, die de nationalistische trom (de duitse) vrolijk roert en samenwerking met de neo´s de de extreem-rechtse Duitse rappers bepaald niet schuwt. Het leverde binnen de Duitse hiphop scene een mini oorlog op.....en heel veel publiciteit. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7m_oxNXvs5M Nyze feat. Bushido & Chakuza - Geben Und Nehmen http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uj1aD8whj3E Eko Fresh ft. Bushido - Ring Frei Bushido-disss http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S2nJ1x8kXd8 Bushido bei Explosiv http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wa9vnFg0C3M Een analyse van de politieke ontwikkelingen in de Duitse Muzik Szene. Door Ruth Elkins, 2006: Rap music and the far right: Germany goes gangsta "A new wave of rap music is sweeping Germany: sexist, violent, often racist - and adored by neo-Nazis. "If it doesn't work out with hip hop," shrugs Bushido, Germany's most notorious rap star, "then I'll just sell drugs." It probably won't come to that. The 26-year-old half Tunisian Berliner is turning the world of German hip hop upside down. The child of a German mother and an immigrant father is attracting, against all normal logic, a massive audience of neo-Nazis who love his hard-edged, racist and nationalistic lyrics. There has never been any doubting Bushido's bad boy credentials. He is currently, and not for the first time, in an Austrian jail, waiting to see if he must stand trial on GBH charges. Earlier this month, an unfortunate 20-year-old Austrian man made the mistake of wandering too close to Bushido's pimped-up 7 Series BMW. It is alleged the rapper and his two bodyguards suspected the man had punctured the tyres, and beat him senseless. Bushido could face 10 years in jail. Bushido's latest brush with the law was par for the course for a true gangsta rapper. 50 Cent, Ja Rule, Snoop Dogg: all the American rap stars worth their platinum discs and pimped-out Hummers have had run-ins with the law or spent time behind bars. But there is something different about Bushido, a beefy man with five tattoos. He has sparked a huge debate in Germany, a country still new to gangsta rap, about how racist and offensive song lyrics can be before they become outright neo-Nazi propaganda. Until very recently, true gangsta rap had been strictly an American import. Spotty German teenagers would don baseball caps and baggy jeans and listen to the likes of Snoop Dogg and 50 Cent rap about things that seemed to come from a different world - the streets of the American inner city ghettos. They were pretty offensive, of course, their songs laced with profoundly sexist content: all men were pimps; all women were bitches. Now Germany has its own gangsta rappers. Bushido is to the fore, joined by his foul-mouthed colleagues: Fler, Sido, B-Tight, Kool Savas, Eko Fresh, Brainless Wankers and a collective calling themselves Der Frauenartzt (the Gynaecologist.) In the past year, these rappers who once could only dream of minor fame on the fringes of the Germany's parochial music industry have made it to the mainstream. Their CDs regularly top the charts, their loves lives are followed by the tabloids, their concerts are sold out. Yet they are declaring open warfare on Germany's safe and comfortable consensus society. The new wave of German gangsta rap, says Aggro Berlin, the most successful and notorious of the Berlin independent record labels representing German rap stars, is simply reflective of the hard times in Germany, a country whose economy continues to dip in and out of recession and where unemployment nudges 5 million. But Germany does not have ghettos or race riots, it is, say panicked politicians, in no way comparable with US culture. Germany's new found gangsta rap is glamorising a fantasy of American ghetto life which should be banned, not encouraged. Still, the likes of Bushido seem to want to polarise society. Even the titles of his raps are upsetting the authorities. "Gang Bang" is a nauseating account of violent group sex. " Dreckstück" (Piece of Dirt) is entirely misogynistic and features the lyrics: "Just because you're a woman, doesn't mean I won't beat you till you're blue." Again and again the lyrics of Bushido and his gangsta rapper homies openly flirt with fascism. "Salutiert, steht stramm, Ich bin der Leader wie A," (Salute, stand to attention, I am the leader like 'A'), raps Bushido. The 'A', of course, stands for Adolf. A rap collective called Mor were heavily criticised for rapping lyrics where " Wack MCs" were sent to the "gas showers" and "children to the concentration camps." Fler, 24, another Berlin bad boy went one further. His latest hit, " Neue Deutsche Welle" (New German Wave) which went gold within two weeks of its release, features the ultra nationalistic lyrics: "That is black, red, gold, hard and proud, you might not see it in me, but believe me, my mom (sic) is German". The CD was advertised with an adapted pre-Polish invasion Adolf Hitler quote: "From May 1st, we will shoot back". His name on the CD cover was written in Third Reich style gothic print. The video to "Neue Deutsche Welle", constantly played on Germany's rolling music channels is set in a deprived high-rise East Berlin estate and features German flag waving, a complete taboo, as well as the ultimate Nazi symbol, an eagle, landing on the rapper's shoulder. Rumours flew recently that he had called his producer, DJ Ilan a " money grabbing Jewish pig." Germany's newspapers were outraged, but Fler didn't bother to deny it. Germany's far-right party, The NPD has even recommended "Neue Deutsche Welle" to party members. No wonder the German ultra right is so enthralled. "Though I think it is wrong to over-exaggerate the problem, the far right are definitely getting more interested in German hip hop, more so since the genre become so popular in mainstream culture," says Hannes Loh, 34, a former anti-fascist rapper and co-author of the book, Kanak Planet: Hip Hop Between World Culture and Nazi Rap. " Laatst gewijzigd door Eberhard Leclerc : 15 juni 2009 om 20:41.

15 juni 2009, 22:49	#16
Maximus Aurelius Staatssecretaris Geregistreerd: 2 december 2008 Locatie: in een absurde realiteit van alcohol, sigaretten & werk Berichten: 2.694	Beste vrienden, we zien hier schromelijk de Duitse hip hop hype (inderdaad, drie h's, een dubbele stijlfiguur dus) B-Tight over het hoofd Hier hun grootste hit: 'B-Tight' met 'der Neger Neger' http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EMgWbfuBNi0 __________________ "Shove those taxes up your ass, you f*en politicians!" - Maximus Aurelius met menig promille in het bloed, lente 2011.

14 juni 2009, 22:54	#3
Everytime Secretaris-Generaal VN Geregistreerd: 3 februari 2004 Locatie: Bruxelles Berichten: 33.165	Die Fanstatichen Vier - Die Da! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fIi7k69LG88

15 juni 2009, 14:13	#9
HOUZEE ! Minister-President Geregistreerd: 30 oktober 2008 Berichten: 4.945	Erdbeben ! van Fettes Brot (zeg, schrijf de titels er eens bij want nu moet ik dat allemaal apart gaan openen ) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X3iS2g6Efuw

15 juni 2009, 14:27	#10
Derk de Tweede Secretaris-Generaal VN Geregistreerd: 28 januari 2005 Locatie: Ergens tussen Dollard en Duinkerken Berichten: 37.539	Emo!

15 juni 2009, 23:06	#20
Eberhard Leclerc Secretaris-Generaal VN Geregistreerd: 12 mei 2009 Locatie: Kraainem Berichten: 29.759	Nog meer criminaliteitsverheerlijkende rechtsleunende rap. Net als Massiv en Bushido alluderen de boys op de typisch Duitse Korperkultur. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oERPP...eature=channel AUTOMATIKK uit Neurenberg.