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Oud 29 april 2021, 22:16   #1
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https://www.nytimes.com/2021/04/28/w...veillance.html

Ironisch overigens:

“Our basic democratic order, as well as state institutions such as parliaments and governments, have faced multiple attacks since the beginning of the measures to contain the Covid-19 pandemic,”

Allez gij, en dat dus niet vanwege een grotesk disproportioneel beleid en een de facto globalistische staatsgreep maar vanwege een stel "aluhoedjes" wellicht? ...

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Oud 30 april 2021, 04:17   #2
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We gaan verdacht worden van anti-covidcontainening activities.

Het is merkwaardig hoe de geschiedenis zich herhaalt he.
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Oud 30 april 2021, 06:03   #3
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https://www.seattletimes.com/nation-...-surveillance/

By CHRISTOPHER F. SCHUETZE
The New York Times

BERLIN — Germany’s domestic-intelligence service said Wednesday that it would surveil members of the increasingly aggressive coronavirus-denier movement because they posed a risk of undermining the state.

The movement — fueled in part by wild conspiracy theories — has grown from criticizing coronavirus lockdown measures and hygiene rules to targeting the state, its leaders, businesses, the news media and globalism, to name a few. Over the past year, demonstrators have attacked police officers, defied civil authorities and, in one widely publicized episode, scaled the steps of Parliament.

“Our basic democratic order, as well as state institutions such as parliaments and governments, have faced multiple attacks since the beginning of the measures to contain the COVID-19 pandemic,” the Interior Ministry said in a statement confirming that parts of the denier movement were under observation. The Interior Ministry oversees the intelligence agency, called the Office for the Protection of the Constitution.

In announcing the decision to keep tabs on conspiracy theorists, intelligence officials noted the movement’s close ties to extremists such as the Reichsbürger, who refuse to accept the legitimacy of the modern German state.

Many coronavirus deniers say they also believe in QAnon conspiracy theories, and protesters are frequently seen holding signs with anti-Semitic tropes.

The movement, Querdenken, which is German for lateral thinking, communicates and recruits over social media and has a large presence on the encrypted chat service Telegram, where its main channel has 65,000 subscribers. Parts of AfD, a German right-wing populist party that is also under surveillance, have allied themselves with protesters.

Still, the Interior Ministry took pains to say that the danger from coronavirus deniers and conspiracy theorists does not fit the mold posed by the usual, politically driven groups, including those on the far left and right, or by Islamic extremists. As a result, the authorities are setting up a new department specifically tasked with handling cases that seek to delegitimize the state.

The news comes days after Germany instituted new virus rules that apply nationwide and allow the federal government to enforce lockdowns. (Such regulation had previously been in the hands of the country’s 16 states.) It also suggests that the authorities believe coronavirus-denier groups could continue to flourish and pose a threat after the pandemic ends.
This story was originally published at nytimes.com. Read it here.
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Omdat je zonder aanmelden blijkbaar maar een beperkt aantal views mag hebben, een andere link en de tekst zelf:

https://www.seattletimes.com/nation-...-surveillance/

By CHRISTOPHER F. SCHUETZE
The New York Times

BERLIN — Germany’s domestic-intelligence service said Wednesday that it would surveil members of the increasingly aggressive coronavirus-denier movement because they posed a risk of undermining the state.

The movement — fueled in part by wild conspiracy theories — has grown from criticizing coronavirus lockdown measures and hygiene rules to targeting the state, its leaders, businesses, the news media and globalism, to name a few. Over the past year, demonstrators have attacked police officers, defied civil authorities and, in one widely publicized episode, scaled the steps of Parliament.

“Our basic democratic order, as well as state institutions such as parliaments and governments, have faced multiple attacks since the beginning of the measures to contain the COVID-19 pandemic,” the Interior Ministry said in a statement confirming that parts of the denier movement were under observation. The Interior Ministry oversees the intelligence agency, called the Office for the Protection of the Constitution.

In announcing the decision to keep tabs on conspiracy theorists, intelligence officials noted the movement’s close ties to extremists such as the Reichsbürger, who refuse to accept the legitimacy of the modern German state.

Many coronavirus deniers say they also believe in QAnon conspiracy theories, and protesters are frequently seen holding signs with anti-Semitic tropes.

The movement, Querdenken, which is German for lateral thinking, communicates and recruits over social media and has a large presence on the encrypted chat service Telegram, where its main channel has 65,000 subscribers. Parts of AfD, a German right-wing populist party that is also under surveillance, have allied themselves with protesters.

Still, the Interior Ministry took pains to say that the danger from coronavirus deniers and conspiracy theorists does not fit the mold posed by the usual, politically driven groups, including those on the far left and right, or by Islamic extremists. As a result, the authorities are setting up a new department specifically tasked with handling cases that seek to delegitimize the state.

The news comes days after Germany instituted new virus rules that apply nationwide and allow the federal government to enforce lockdowns. (Such regulation had previously been in the hands of the country’s 16 states.) It also suggests that the authorities believe coronavirus-denier groups could continue to flourish and pose a threat after the pandemic ends.
This story was originally published at nytimes.com. Read it here.
Het zijn net de instituten die we hebben opgezet om onze democratie te vrijwaren, die momenteel de grootste bedreiging zijn voor diezelfde democratie. Het is overduidelijk dat die instituten elke vorm van kritiek op hun manier van werken proberen af te doen als aluhoedjes conspiracy gezever. Ze worden daarin bijgestaan door angstzaaiers en mensen die enorm vatbaar zijn voor angstpropaganda.
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