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Oud 10 februari 2005, 00:45   #1
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Standaard [LewRockwell] George Crispin: "Pius XII at war" -- over de bezwaddering van een Rechtvaardige

Ook in deze nieuwsgroep duiken regelmatig weer bezwadderingsberichten tegen
Zijne Heiligheid paus Pius XII op. Naar bij Stalinistische intentieprocessen
gebruikelijk, stoort men zich daarbij geenszins aan de feiten. Feiten die
toch al langer bekend zijn.

Vandaag verscheen op de wel vaker zeer lezenswaardige webstek
LewRockwell.com, naar aanleiding van nog maar eens een opstoot van de
bezwaddering, een bijdrage van George Crispin die nog eens de feiten op een
rijtje zet:
__________________________________________________ ____________________


Pius XII at War

by George Crispin


The dishonest story of Pope Pius XII being "Hitler's pope" for not
doing enough to protect Jews in the last war has surfaced again.
It does not reflect well on the people who spread it.

Cardinal Pacelli served as Pius XII from 1939 to 1958. He
recognized Hitler as a threat to German culture and as early as
1921 was criticizing the Nazis. Professor Ronald Rychlak documents
that between 1917 and 1929, 40 public speeches made on German soil
by Pacelli before he was Pope contained attacks on National
Socialism. As Pope he pressed hard for peace, declaring that
"Nothing is lost by peace but everything may be lost by war." He
devoted his first six years in office to bringing relief to the
suffering plus bringing as many Jews as possible to freedom.
Thousands of Jews were housed in Church buildings in Rome - even
after the Nazis occupied the city in 1943.

These were only a few of the hundreds of thousands that the Church
saved from Nazi killers. In 1967 Israeli diplomat Pinchas Lapide
estimated that Pope Pius XII was "instrumental in saving at least
700,00 possibly as many as 860,000 Jews from death at Nazi hands."
To put these numbers in perspective consider that the Nazis had
8,300,000 Jews under their control; 6,000,000 were killed leaving
2,300,000 survivors. If we take Lapide's lowest figure, the Pope
was instrumental in saving 30% of the Jews who survived the
Holocaust.

Catholics too, were targets of the Nazi killing machine. At
Auschwitz, 3,000,000 Polish Catholics were murdered, including
thousands of priests, 20% of Poland's clerical class ("priest
swine," as the Nazis called them). It needs to be added that papal
diplomacy and underground assistance were more effective in saving
Jewish lives from the Nazis than they were at saving Catholic
lives from the Communists in Soviet Russia.

After the war Soviet Communists began the disinformation campaign
against the Church. Pope Pius was the leading anti-communist
leader in the world. Hating him and the Church was as much a part
of Soviet Communism as hating Jews was part of Nazism. But as
Rabbi David G. Dalin notes in his authoritative article in the
Weekly Standard, "Pope Pius XII and the Jews," this communist big
lie was appropriated by "lapsed or angry" Catholic writers as
"simply the biggest club available for modernists to use against
traditionalist Catholics." He continues:

But Jews, whatever their feeling about the Catholic Church,
have a duty to reject any attempt to usurp the Holocaust and
use it for partisan purposes in such a debate - particularly
when the attempt disparages the testimony of Holocaust
survivors and spreads to inappropriate figures the
condemnation that belongs to Hitler and the Nazis.... "The
Talmud teaches that whosoever preserves one life, it is
accounted to him by scripture as if he had preserved the whole
world." More than any other twentieth century leader, Pius
fulfilled the Talmudic dictum when the fate of European Jewry
was at stake. No other pope has been so widely praised by Jews
- and they were not mistaken. Their gratitude, as well as that
of the entire generation of the Holocaust survivors, testifies
that Pius XII was genuinely and profoundly a righteous
gentile.

Further testament to Pius' moral stature is the fact that the
Chief Rabbi of Rome chose to convert to Catholicism after the war.
Obviously conversion involves more than the example of one man.
Nevertheless the example of a good man can have an impact, and the
example was there.

February 9, 2005


George Crispin is a retired businessman who heads a Catholic
homeschooling cooperative in Auburn, Alabama.

Copyright © 2005 LewRockwell.com
__________________________________________________ ____________________
("Pius XII at War by George Crispin"
<http://www.lewrockwell.com/orig5/crispin6.html>)


zie ook:
__________________________________________________ ____________________

"Being a lover of freedom, when the [Nazi] revolution came, I
looked to the universities to defend it, knowing that they had
always boasted of their devotion to the cause of truth; but no,
the universities were immediately silenced. Then I looked to the
great editors of the newspapers, whose flaming editorials in days
gone had proclaimed their love of freedom; but they, like the
universities, were silenced in a few short weeks...

"Only the Church stood squarely across the path of Hitler's
campaign for suppressing the truth. I never had any special
interest in the Church before, but now I feel a great affection
and admiration for it because the Church alone has had the courage
and persistence to stand for intellectual and moral freedom. I am
forced to confess that what I once despised I now praise
unreservedly."

-- Albert Einstein
__________________________________________________ ____________________
"Libertarians and Christianity"
<http://www.theadvocates.org/library/christian.html>

Wie nog steeds volharden PP. Pius XII te pogen bezwadderen als
"Hitler-vriendje", hoeven vooral niet van goede, laat staan eerbare
bedoelingen te worden verdacht.

Groet,

Bart.


 
Oud 11 februari 2005, 12:55   #2
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Standaard Re: [LewRockwell] George Crispin: "Pius XII at war" -- over de bezwaddering van een Rechtvaardige

Vitae forma vocatur, "Bart Van Stappen" <[email protected]>, die
Thu, 10 Feb 2005 00:33:35 +0100, in littera
<[email protected]> in foro be.politics (et aliis) vere
scripsit quod sequitur:

>Ook in deze nieuwsgroep duiken regelmatig weer bezwadderingsberichten tegen
>Zijne Heiligheid paus Pius XII op. Naar bij Stalinistische intentieprocessen
>gebruikelijk, stoort men zich daarbij geenszins aan de feiten. Feiten die
>toch al langer bekend zijn.
>
>Vandaag verscheen op de wel vaker zeer lezenswaardige webstek
>LewRockwell.com, naar aanleiding van nog maar eens een opstoot van de
>bezwaddering, een bijdrage van George Crispin die nog eens de feiten op een
>rijtje zet:
>_________________________________________________ _____________________
>
>
> Pius XII at War
>
> by George Crispin
>
>
> The dishonest story of Pope Pius XII being "Hitler's pope" for not
> doing enough to protect Jews in the last war has surfaced again.
> It does not reflect well on the people who spread it.

[feiten over Pius XII]

Aanvullende lectuur daaromtrent hier te vinden:
A Righteous Gentile
.... Throughout the 1940s and 1950s, tributes to Pope Pius came from
several other Jewish leaders who praised him for his role in saving Jews
during the war. ...
www.catholicleague.org/pius/dalinframe.htm - 46k - In cache -

Vatican launch of book highlights Pius XII's World War II role in ...
.... Vatican launch of book highlights Pius XII's World War II role in
saving Jews. Zenit News Service. Contents - May 1999 Editorial: Ensuring
.... http://www.ad2000.com.au/articles/19...999p6_349.html - 14k -

Society Saint Pius X Communicantes Nov 1999 Editorial
.... just been published to discredit, once more, the great Pope Pius XI
I concerning his action during World War II in condemning Nazism and
saving Jews, I would ...
www.sspx.ca/Communicantes/Mar2000/ A-defense-of-Pope-Pius-XII.htm - 12k


Lets libel a dead Pope and 600,000 Others
.... But Pius XII is not alone in being the butt of cultural ingratitude.
.... one half of one percent of individual acts of courage by Germans in
saving Jews should be ...
www.giwersworld.org/holo2/notenuf2.phtml -

IN DEFENSE OF POPE PIUS XII
.... XII was lauded for his singular efforts to halt the carnage. And for
years after, he was praised for the Church's efforts in saving an
estimated 700,000 Jews ...
www.al-bushra.org/vatican/indefense.htm
Pius XII and the Holocaust
.... because they believed: "The Catholic Church under the pontificate of
Pius XII was
instrumental in saving the lives of as many as 860,000 Jews from certain
....
members.aol.com/cmcginmd/PiusXII_Holocaust.htm - 32k - In cache -
Gelijkwaardige pagina's

The Passover for Roman Jews of 1943: Pope Pius XII help in saving ...
.... The Passover for Roman Jews of 1943: Pope Pius XII help in saving
the Jews of Rome
Culture/Society Miscellaneous Keywords: JEWS SS VATICAN WORLD WAR II
"THE ...
www.freerepublic.com/forum/a3ad318445928.htm -

Pius XII Saved More Jews Than Schindler, Rabbi Says [Free Republic ...
.... In August 1943, Pius XII received a plea from the World Jewish ...
Your Holiness as the only hope for saving them from ... the Holy See on
behalf of the Jews had been ...
www.freerepublic.com/forum/a3b8d13ed7edb.htm -
[ Meer resultaten van www.freerepublic.com ]

pius xii
.... `They sent money for saving and housing the city's Jews, but Pius
XII used
his own money as well, spending his own patrimony to save lives.''. ...
www.catholicherald.com/cns/piusknew.htm -


Blaming the Wartime Pope
.... XII was lauded for his singular efforts to halt the carnage. And for
years after,
he was praised for the church's efforts in saving an estimated 700,000
Jews ...
http://www.catholiceducation.org/art...ld/wh0002.html -
[ Meer resultaten van www.catholiceducation.org ]


Patron Saints Index Commercial Page for Pope Pius XII
.... Honored by grateful Jews for saving nearly a ... Today, amidst the
ruins, the forgotten
writings of Pius XII read as stern rebukes, or eloquently simple ...
www.catholic-forum.com/saints/pope0260com.htm -

Pope Pius XII - Reference Library
.... of priests who smuggled vast numbers of jews to safety. ... of World
War II in Europe,
while Pius XII was awarded ... for each Jewish life he was credited with
saving. ...
http://www.campusprogram.com/referen..._pius_xii.html

Pius XII Was No Nazi - by Ralph McInerny - Catholic Dossier ...
.... The Catholic Church, under the leadership of Pius XII, is credited
with
saving nearly a million Jews from certain death during the war. ...
www.catholic.net/rcc/Periodicals/ Dossier/2001-02/article2.html - 35k -
In cache - Gelijkwaardige pagina's

PIUS XII: ARTICLES
.... Pius XII as well as other religious men and women are to be
acknowledged for their
charity and courage in protecting and saving the lives of countless
Jews. ...
www.catholictradition.org/piusxii-14b.htm - 17k - In cache -
Gelijkwaardige pagina's

Pope Pius XII And The Holocaust
.... Lapide who said that "The Catholic Church under the pontificate of
Pius XII was instrumental
in saving the lives of as many as 860,000 Jews from certain death ...
www.cfpeople.org/Apologetics/page51a039.html -


Pope Pius XII and the Jews
.... President of the Anglo-Jewish Association stated that Pius XII "was
responsible during the war for saving the lives of tens of thousands of
Jews." (Murphy, P ...
www.angelfire.com/ok3/apologia/piusxii.html -

A Question of Judgment: Pius XII & the Jews
.... from Istanbul to visit Pius XII: above all else comes the saving of
human lives.
9. One of the strongest testimonials to Pius' great feeling for Jews
comes from ...
http://www.us-israel.org/jsource/ant.../piusdef2.html


Pope Pius XII and the Holocaust
.... The Catholic Church, under the pontificate of Pius XII, was
instrumental in saving
at least 700,000, but probably as many as 860,000 Jews," writes
Lapide....
www.********/jhr/v13/v13n5p26_Martinez.html -

Sniping At Soft Targets
.... has shown, the people who showered official and public praise on
Pius XII include Albert ... in 1944 in recognition of the Pope’s
personal record of saving Jews. ...
www.amconmag.com/2002_11_18/taki4.html

Pope Pius XII: NOT a Nazi
.... Thereafter, Pius XII adopted his policy of not naming the ... of the
increased persecution of Jews which followed the ... which resulted in
the saving of approximately ...
www.angelfire.com/pa3/OldWorldBasic/PiusXII.htm
[ Meer resultaten van www.angelfire.com ]

russell shaw
.... A lot of people — some of them Jews — had good reasons to oppose the
.... Note, too, that this letter concerns Pius XII's role in saving 4,000
Slovakian ...
www.catholicherald.com/shaw/shaw99/shaw0916.htm -

Liberal Lies and the War Against Religion
.... estimate of Israeli diplomat Pinchas Lapide that Pope Pius XII "was
instrumental in saving at least 700,000, but probably as many as 860,000
Jews from certain ...
www.lewrockwell.com/orig2/crocker3.html

Pope Pius XII and the Jews
.... Church, and this on the formal order of Pius XII. ... just concerned
for his reputation, but with saving Jewish lives ... The Last Three
Popes and the Jews —Ed.] who ...
www.sspx.org/against_the_sound_bites/ piusxii_and_the_jews.htm

DeoOmnisGloria.com: Pius XII and Hitler: Facts, not Fiction
.... One thing every Catholic should know: Pope Pius XII saved more Jews
than any ... absurd;
in reality Hitler was anti-Catholic because Pius was saving the Jews!
....
www.deoomnisgloria.com/mt/archives/000031.html -

A ZENIT DAILY DISPATCH
.... side." Rotta, Baranski, Wallenberg and—yes—Pius XII worked together
as ... me) to work his life-saving mission...." He ... protect and
defend the Jews?" He replied ...
www.ewtn.com/library/ISSUES/ZRYCHLAK.HTM


--
Fusti
 
 



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