Anti-semitisme door Armeniers

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Armeniers zijn behoorlijk anti Joods. Tijdens wereldoorlog twee hebben ze onder andere vrijwillig geholpen bij de end-losung van de Joden. Vele Joden zijn tijdens WOII door Armeniers vermoord. In deze topic zal ik bewijs voor het Armeense anti-semitisme posten.


CHRISTIAN ANTI-SEMITISM IN THE OTTOMAN EMPIRE
Prof. Stanford Shaw
"Blood libel accusations were made against Jews by Ottoman Christian subjects starting in the sixteenth century, most frequently in the Arab provinces, first at Jerusalem in 1546. The most famous Christian assault on Ottoman Jews in medieval times came in the central Anatolian town of Amasya some time between 1530 and 1540, when a blood-libel accusation against local Jews was spread by local Armenians who said that an Armenian woman had seen Jews slaughter a young Armenian boy and use his blood at the feast of Passover. Several days of rioting and pillaging and attacks on Jews followed...Later, however, the Armenian boy who supposedly had been murdered was found and the Ottoman governor punished the Armenian accusers, though nothing could be done about the Jews who had suffered."[1]

"There were literally thousands of incidents in subsequent years, invariably resulting from accusations spread among Greeks and Armenians by word of mouth, or published in their newspapers, often by Christian financiers and merchants who were anxious to get the Jews out of the way, resulting in isolated and mob attacks on Jews, and burning of their shops and homes [2]. The attacks were brutal and without mercy. Women, children, and aged Jewish men were frequently attacked, beaten and often killed."[3]

[1] Stanford J. Shaw, "Christian Anti-Semitism in the Ottoman Empire", Belleten C. LIV, 68, p.1103 (1991).
[2] Abraham Ben-Yakob (Jerusalem), "The Immigration of Iraki Jews to the Holy Land in the 19th Century", paper delivered to the First International Congress for the Study of Sephardic and Oriental Judaism, 27 June 1978.
[3] Stanford J. Shaw, "Christian Anti-Semitism in the Ottoman Empire", Belleten C. LIV, 68, p.1129 (1991)

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ARMENIA’S JEWS ALARMED OVER NASCENT ANTI-SEMITISM
Emil Danielyan 1/29/05
A EurasiaNet Partner Post from RFE/RL

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Rimma Varzhapetian says she always felt proud of Armenia when she met fellow Jews from other parts of the former Soviet Union.

"We always declare everywhere that there has never been anti-Semitism in Armenia, that Armenia is a good place for Jews to live and, more importantly, that Armenia is quite a stable country in political and social respects," Varzhapetian says.

That is why the secular leader of Armenia’s Jewish community has had trouble coming to terms with what she says is a recent rise in anti-Semitic propaganda.

It began in 2004, when ALM, a private pro-government television channel, began broadcasting a phone-in talk show hosted by the station’s owner, Tigran Karapetian. For months, Karapetian used the platform to air views that portrayed Jews as an unsavory race bent on dominating Armenia and the wider world.

Varzhapetian says her office in Yerevan received threatening phone calls after the first series of ALM broadcasts.

Karapetian’s rhetoric appeared to embolden Armen Avetisian, the openly anti-Semitic leader of the Armenian Aryan Union, a small ultranationalist party. Avetisian in a recent newspaper interview alleged that there are as many as 50,000 "disguised" Jews in Armenia, and promised he would work to have them expelled from the country. He was arrested on 24 January on charges of inciting ethnic hatred.

A Holocaust memorial in a public park in the center of Yerevan also came under attack in September, when vandals desecrated the memorial on the final day of Jewish New Year celebrations.

Yet what shocked the Jewish community most was an interview with Hranush Kharatian, a prominent ethnologist who heads the Armenian government’s department on religious and minority affairs. Speaking to the "Golos Armenii" (Voice of Armenia) Russian-language newspaper a month after the memorial’s desecration, Kharatian accused Jewish leaders of preaching extreme intolerance toward all non-Jews.

In a recent interview with RFE/RL, Kharatian cited what she called the "aggressive ideology" contained in the Talmud, the book of Jewish religious laws. "I see in the Talmud numerous points which clearly state that non-Jews, or infidels that are not Jews, are not human beings and are animals," she said.

Varzhapetian and other community leaders, including Chief Rabbi Gersh Meir Burshtein, met in December with Armenian Foreign Minister Vartan Oskanian to ask for help in addressing the problem. A ministry spokesperson, however, recently said the issue is not sufficiently serious to warrant government attention.

Mikael Danielian heads the Armenian Helsinki Association, a human rights group that closely monitors anti-Semitic activity in the country. He criticized the government’s failure to address the issue. "I am surprised at the serenity of our state officials," he told RFE/RL. "It could have very serious consequences for Armenia."

Armenia’s Jewish community is estimated to number less than 1,000 people. It is largely formed of scientists and other professionals who moved to Armenia in the 1960s and ’70s to escape persecution in Russia and Ukraine. Most integrated quickly into society, marrying ethnic Armenians and adopting Armenian surnames.

Until recently, anti-Semitic sentiment in Armenia was limited to occasional allegations by nationalist scholars that Jews had aided the 1915 genocide of Armenians in Ottoman Turkey. The theory -- which is not supported by historical evidence -- was first aired during the presentation of an anti-Semitic book at a 2003 meeting of the Armenian Writers Union. No one in the audience condemned the text.

A global report on anti-Semitism issued in January by the U.S. State Department dedicates just three paragraphs to Armenia. But that was sufficient to unleash a fresh wave of anti-Jewish criticism. ALM’s Karapetian, who was cited by name in the U.S. study, responded with a two-hour televised monologue lambasting the United States and the contents of the report.

Several days later, Karapetian received an unexpected phone call during an ALM broadcast. An Armenian woman living in Israel criticized his sweeping bias against Jews, but was quickly cut off by the broadcaster.

"If someone has offended you personally, or if you have problems with your business, it doesn’t mean you should hold an entire nation responsible," the woman said in Russian. "Stop asking hysterical questions on air," Karpetian replied. "Shut up and listen to me. You say it’s inadmissible to say ‘Jewish tricks.’ But is it permissible to spit at a priest?"

Karapetian was referring to two recent incidents in Jerusalem in which Jewish religious students spat at Armenian priests in a show of their contempt for their Christian faith. The Armenian Apostolic Church has had a presence in Jersualem’s Old City for centuries.

The incidents have been cited repeatedly in Armenia as supporting claims of anti-Semitism. But Varzhapetian said Armenia’s Jews are still hoping not only the government but also civil society will take steps to stem the rising hatred.

"We are still awaiting a statement [of protest] from prominent Armenians. Armenians themselves must express indignation. First of all, because there are very few of us [in Armenia]. Secondly, protecting ourselves is not quite appropriate," Varzhapetian said.

Varzhapetian and other community leaders sent an open letter to President Robert Kocharian urging an end to the government’s "conspicuous failure to see those inciting anti-Semitism." But the only response to date has been a statement by a cabinet minister saying ethnic and religious discrimination does not exist in Armenia.


Posted January 29, 2005 © Eurasianet

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Armenia’s Jews Alarmed By Nascent Anti-Semitism

Armenialiberty, 25.1.2005

By Emil Danielyan

Armenia’s tiny Jewish community is seriously concerned about increased manifestations of anti-Semitism in the country. The problem, virtually non-existent in the past, has come to the surface over the past year with anti-Semitic propaganda methodically aired by an Armenian TV channel, threats to expel Jews repeatedly voiced by an ultranationalist group and a desecration of the Holocaust memorial in Yerevan.

To add insult to injury, the Armenian government appears reluctant to tackle the xenophobic symptoms, while assuring the local Jews that they have nothing to worry about. Its top official in charge of protecting ethnic minorities has openly declared that Judaism is inherently intolerant of other religions.

Rimma Varzhapetian, the secular leader of the Jewish community, has trouble coming to terms with that. “We have always declared everywhere that there has never been anti-Semitism in Armenia, that Armenia is a good place for Jews to live and, more importantly, that Armenia is quite a stable country in the political and social respects,” she tells RFE/RL.

But she says the nascent anti-Semitism is now too “palpable” to be ignored. “We think that there must be reaction from Armenian society,” she says. “We do react, but we are scared. Honestly, we do feel a danger.”

These concern prompted Varzhapetian and other community leaders, including Chief Rabbi Gersh Meir Burshtein, to meet with Foreign Minister Vartan Oskanian on December 22. Oskanian was quoted by an online Jewish publication as promising them to “discuss the situation at the government.”

But this was effectively denied by Oskanian’s spokesman last week. “This is not the kind of issue that warrants government discussion,” Hamlet Gasparian told RFE/RL. “There is no anti-Semitism in Armenia.”

“I am surprised at the serenity of our state officials. That could have very serious consequences for Armenia,” warned Mikael Danielian of the Armenian Helsinki Association, a human rights group.

The Jewish community, estimated to number less than 1,000 members, was essentially formed during the 1960s and 1970s by scientists and other professionals that moved to Armenia mostly from Russia and Ukraine, nations with a long history of anti-Jewish prejudice and persecution. They found a more liberal and tolerant environment there, quickly integrating into Armenian society.

Most of the local Jews are now either married to an ethnic Armenian or have an Armenian parent. And like Varzhapetian, most carry Armenian last names. According to Varzhapetian, the community has barely shrunk since the Soviet collapse and the resulting economic decline that forced hundreds of thousands of Armenians to look for work abroad.

Until recently, displays of anti-Semitism in Armenian were largely confined to occasional allegations by some nationalist scholars that Jews had a hand in the 1915 genocide of Armenians in Ottoman Turkey. That theory, not substantiated by historical facts, was expressed in an anti-Semitic book unveiled at a packed conference hall of the Armenian Writers’ Union in 2003. None of the members of the union publicly condemned it.

Tigran Karapetian, the demagogic owner of ALM, one of Armenia’s myriad private TV channels loyal to the government, was probably aware of that when he embarked on a campaign of Jew-bashing early last year through a phone-in talk show anchored by himself. Karapetian, who is rumored to have served a jail term for theft before making a fortune in Russia in the 1990s, for months portrayed Jews as an unsavory race that dominates the world and is bent on damaging Armenia.

Karapetian is widely dismissed by the Armenian intellectual elite as a wacky character who should not be taken seriously. However, his discourse, touching on a wide variety of subjects, is winning him a following among common and especially rural folk. The latter have come to adore him for giving just about anyone a chance to sing on a live ALM show broadcast on an almost daily basis.

The ALM broadcasts seem to have only emboldened Armen Avetisian, the virulently anti-Semitic leader of a small ultranationalist party called the Armenian Aryan Union. In a recent newspaper interview, Avetisian declared that there are as many as 50,000 “disguised” Jews in Armenia and that he will strive to ensure that they are identified and expelled from the country.

Varzhapetian says her office in Yerevan received several threatening phone calls after the first series of Karapetian attacks on Jews aired last summer. Then on September 17, the final day of the Jewish New Year celebrations, unknown vandals painted a cross and the “Satanic” number 666 on the modest Holocaust memorial in a public park in the city center. The small rectangular stone was promptly wiped clean by park guards in the morning.

Yet what really shocked and outraged the Jewish community was an interview given by Hranush Kharatian, a prominent ethnologist who heads the Armenian government’s department on religious and minority affairs, to the “Golos Armenii” newspaper a month later. “Why don’t we react to the fact that during their Friday gatherings Judaists continue to preach extreme intolerance toward all non-Judaists, going as far as to equate them to animals and propagate spitting [on non-Jews] ?” she told the Russian-language paper critical of the Jews.

The community leaders, among them an Armenian army officer, described the remark as a “lie, slander and ignorance” in an open letter to President Robert Kocharian. They urged Kocharian to end his government’s “conspicuous failure to see those inciting anti-Semitism.”

The only response they received, according to Varzhapetian, was a letter from a cabinet minister saying that there is no ethnic or religious discrimination in Armenia. They apparently figured that Oskanian, a former U.S. citizen, is the only senior official who could understand the seriousness of the situation.

In an RFE/RL interview last week, Kharatian clarified that she referred to “aggressive ideology” which she said is contained in Talmud, the compilation of Jewish religious laws and interpretations of the Bible. “I see in Talmud numerous points which clearly state that non-Jews, or infidels that are not Jews, are not human beings and are animals,” she said.

Asked whether she herself witnessed such practices by the Armenian Jews, Kharatian replied : “You don’t have to attend a religious rite or ceremony. You just have to know with which literature those rites are performed.”

She therefore categorically refused to offer an apology to the Jews : “What should I apologize for ? They can sue me, if I’m wrong.”

Kharatian disapproved of the ALM boss’s remarks, but said it is “very difficult to directly characterize all of that as some propaganda directed against an ethnic group.” She was also not sure that Armenia’s Criminal Code, which has a clause on “inciting inter-ethnic hatred,” can be used to prosecute Avetisian.

Meanwhile, the Armenian antagonists of the Jews have been incensed by a report on global anti-Semitism issued by the U.S. State Department on January 5. The report devoted only three short paragraphs to Armenia, much less than to most of the established European democracies where anti-Jewish sentiment has deep historical roots.

But that was enough to ignite a renewed wave of anti-Semitic comments, with “Golos Armenii” advising the Jewish community to “think about possible consequences of false claims about the mythical persecution of Jews in Armenia.” Karapetian, personally mentioned in the U.S. report, responded with a two-hour televised monologue, lambasting America and “that notorious nation.”

A follow-up talk show aired by ALM a few days later, on January 19, featured a surprise phone call from an Armenian woman living in Israel. “If you have some personal problems [with Jews], it doesn’t mean you have the right to insult a whole people,” she told Karapetian.

“Stop asking hysterical questions on air,” he replied, interrupting her. “Shut up and listen to me. You say it’s inadmissible to say ‘Jewish tricks’. But is it permissible to spit at a priest ?”

Karapetian was referring to two recent incidents in Jerusalem where Jewish religious students spat at Armenian priests in a show for contempt for their Christian faith. The most recent incident was reported on January 6. In both cases, the assailants were arrested by the Israeli police and temporarily banned from entering Jerusalem’s Old City where the Armenian Apostolic Church has for centuries had strong presence.

The attacks, condemned by the Israeli government and media, have been heavily exploited by Armenian anti-Semitic circles.

“What I’m saying is, ‘Let’s live with mutual respect’,” Karapetian continued. “They must be happy that I’m saying such things. Nobody can bully us in our own country, neither with hysterical phone calls, nor with some reports.”

The next phone call to the ALM studio was much more to his liking. “The Jews are the clothes-moth of the world,” stated the male caller.

What the Armenian Jews are seeking is an appropriate response to such statements not only by the government but also the civil society that remains eerily silent on the issue.

“We are still awaiting a letter [of protest] from prominent Armenians,” says Varzhapetian. “Armenians themselves must express indignation. First of all, because there are very few of us [in Armenia]. Secondly, protecting ourselves is not quite appropriate.”

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The Nazi-Armenian Genocide of Jews 1935-1945
"Armenian Nazi General Dro commanded the 20,000
strong Armenian-Nazi 812th Battalion during World War II"
Samuel A. Weems - There was a funeral a few weeks ago in Vienna, Austria. Two small black urns were buried containing the brains and a few remains of 4-year old Annemarie Danner and 18-month old Gerhard Zeketner. During World War II these were two of the more than 600 children the Nazis proclaimed "worthless lives." These children were taken to Vienna's Am Stein Hospital to be murdered and their bodies used for medical research.

Between 1935 and 1945, in the name of medical science and research, the Nazis murdered more than 75,000 individuals, including 5,000 children across Europe, in their quest to create a racial/ethnic pure state. These acts of terror and cruelty were in addition to what the Nazis did at their many death camps were Jews were exterminated.

The term "genocide" was invented and created in 1944 to describe all the many different acts of murder the Nazis used in their attempt to exterminate the entire Jewish race. Annemarie Danner and Gerhard Zeketner are but two of the individual lives the Nazis stamped out.

Armenians today are attempting to "steal" the term genocide by making the fake claim that the Turks massacred 1.5 million of their people in 1915. The undisputed hard evidence is that this tall tale was nothing more than the figment of the imagination of a high priest of the one and only state Armenian church. The priest's motive for making up and telling this horrible lie was his attempt to get a foreign government to come and help the Armenians obtain someone else's homes and land for free. This great lie is the foundation upon which the Armenian government has established its multi billion dollar fake "genocide industry." The Armenians have been operating on this great lie since 1918. Armenia operates their "genocide industry" with great success in today's world even if they do operate on fraud and deceit.

The truth is the Ottoman Turks did only one thing which had good cause for doing so, but gave the Armenians a chance to claim that there was a massacre going on. That single act was to ask the Armenian Church to help them stop their congregations' nightly terrorist acts against the Ottoman military supply lines. The Russians had invaded the Ottoman Empire and the Armenians in the eastern part of the country had joined the Russians. The Armenian Church refused to help the Ottoman government and state officials responded by saying they would themselves have to remove all Armenians from behind their army lines.

Thereafter, the Ottoman government did remove all the Armenians who were doing such harm to their military forces. The United States of America has done exactly

the same thing during World War II. Several Americans are known to have seen Armenians being alive and leaving the combat zone even though the Armenian church claims they were all murdered.

At no time did the Ottoman Turks exterminate children for medical research as the Nazis did between 1935--1945. What makes such acts of Nazi terrorism worse is the fact they did not act alone in their attempts to create an ethnic/racial pure state. Consider the fact that more than 100,000 Armenians volunteered for Nazi military service and took an active part in the Nazi ethnic/racial cleansing campaigns. For ten long years Armenians took part in exterminating not only Jews but also children such as Annemarie Danner and Gerhard Zeketner.

During World War II Armenians learned well the art of racial/ethnic cleansing from their Nazi partners in crime. Today. Armenia has ethnically/racially cleansed their tiny state so successfully that 94.8% of their population is now ethnically pure Armenian. The Armenians have ethnically/racially cleansed their tiny state of what they consider their "undesirables" much like they helped the Nazis do between 1935/1945. Jews, Muslims, and Christians of other faiths other than the state owned and approved church have either been murdered or forced out of Armenia.

Consider the fact of how Armenia today continues to honor the Nazis. The Armenian Nazi General Dro commanded the 20,000 strong Armenian-Nazi 812th Battalion during World War II. After the war, even though serving the Nazis, Armenian Dro talked his way into the United States of America where he remained until his death. Just last year Armenians dug him up and took his body back to Armenia where he was reburied with full military and state honors. The Armenian American colony raised several hundred thousand dollars to help fund a youth leadership institute to honor this Armenian Nazi general. Just what specific leadership is Armenian children being taught today in the General Dro leadership institute--hate, ethnic purity of the Armenian race, racial superiority?

And to think the Armenians, still running their "genocide industry" scam are building their very own genocide memorial two blocks from the American White House. There are less than one million Armenians even in the United States. Why should they spend $75 million dollars on a false claim to something that is disputed that happened 6000 miles away more than 85 years ago. The answer is simple. The Armenian American colony will use this self-invented, fake memorial to deceive and fleece even more American taxpayer dollars for their less than 200 year old homeland the Russians gave them after taking these lands from the Muslim owners. This Armenian genocide memorial will become one of the greatest and largest frauds ever attempted in the history of the entire world. Can anyone believe that Armenians, who took a very active role in the Jewish genocide of World War II, can build such a fake memorial to themselves today for the sole purpose of deceiving and fleecing American Christian taxpayers out of more and more foreign aid money that over the past ten years alone amounts to almost $1.5 billion dollars!

It is fair to ask since the Armenians were ten year partners in crime with the Nazis during the World War II years--will they have a memorial to Annemarie and Gerhard and all the other poor souls the Armenians helped the Nazis murder and exterminate?

Samuel A. Weems is a retired U.S. judge from Arkansas and is the author of ARMENIA: Secrets of A 'Christian' Terrorist State, The Armenian Great Deception Series - Volume 1, St. John Press. To order please visit www.stjohnpress.com

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Armeniers beschuldigen Turkije voortdurend van etnische zuivering. Hier hebben ze gelijk in. De Turken hebben de Armeniers Anatolie uitgeschopt. Ze hebben het echter nooit over het feit dat Armenie etnisch gezuiverd is. De meeste moslims en Joden zijn uit Armenier verdreven of vermoord.

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De massamoordenaar Nazi Generaal Dro wordt vandaag de dag als een held beschouwd in Armenie.

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Hier wat bewijs dat Armeniers massaal moslims hebben vermoord:

''An appropriate analogy with the Jewish Holocaust might be the systematic extermination of the entire Muslim population of the independent republic of Armenia which consisted of at least 30-40 percent of the population of that republic. The memoirs of an Armenian army officer who participated in and eye-witnessed these atrocities was published in the U.S. in 1926 with the title 'Men Are Like That.' Other references abound.''

Rachel A. Bortnick - The Jewish Times - June 21, 1990.

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Memoirs of an American officer who witnessed the genocide of 2.5 million Muslim people by Armenian General Dro, who later cooperated with Hitler and Nazi SS in the formation of the 20,000 strong "Armenian Legion":

'How many people lived there?'
'Oh, about eight hundred.' He yawned.
'Did you see any Turk officers?'
'No, sir. I was in at dawn. All were Tartar civilians in mufti.'

"The lieutenant dozed off, then I, but in the small hours a voice woke me - Dro's. He stood in the starlight bawling out an officer. Anyone keelhauled so long and furiously I'd never heard. Then abruptly Dro broke into laughter, quick and simple as child's. Both were a cover for his sense of guilt, I thought, or hoped. For somehow, despite my boast of irreligion, Christian massacring 'infidels' was more horrible than the reverse would have been."

"Thank you for a lot, Dro,' I said to him back in camp. 'But now I must leave.' We shook hands, the captain said 'A bientot, mon camarade.' And for hours the old Molokan scout and I plodded north across parching plains. Like Lot's wife I looked back once to see smoke bathing all, doubtless in a sack of other Moslem villages by the Armenian Army up to the line of snow that was Iran."

Robert Dunn, " World Alive, A Personal Story." Crown Publishers, Inc., New York, 1952, p. 363.

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De Armeniers zijn degenen die misdaden tegen de menselijkheid hebben begaan. De Armeniers hebben een genocide uitgevoerd, niet de Turken.

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"In Soviet Armenia today there no longer exists a single Turkish [Azerbaijani] soul.'"

Sahak Melkonian, 1920.

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"We closed the roads and mountain passes that might serve as ways of escape for the Turks and then proceeded in the work of extermination. Our troops surrounded village after village. Little resistance was offered. Our artillery knocked the huts into heaps of stone and dust and when the villages became untenable and inhabitants fled from them into fields, bullets and bayonets completed the work."

Ohanus Appressian, 1919. (from "Men Are Like That" p. 202.)

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"only 1,500 Turks remained in Van the rest having been slaughtered."

(Armenian newspaper Gochnak, published in the United States, May 24, 1915. Cited from Hovannisian, Richard G.: Armenia on the Road to Independence, 1918. University of California Press (Berkeley and Los Angeles), 1967, p. 13.)

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Voor meer van zulke quotes:

http://www.zerbaijan.com/azeri/genocide_quotes.htm

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Is dit mischien de reden dat Armeniers een hekel aan Joden hebben? Minister van buitenlandse zaken van Israel Shimon Peres heeft namelijk het volgende gezegd:


Armenian Allegations are Meaningless. We reject attempts to create a similarity between the Holocaust and the Armenian allegations. Nothing similar to the Holocaust occurred. It is a tragedy what the Armenians went through, but not a genocide.

Shimon Peres, minister van buitenlandse Zaken van de staat Israel

[Jeroen]

Kun je ook iets anders in dit topic dan enkel copy/pastes vergaren?
Dit is hier geen container om even vanalles binnen te smijten, maar een discussieforum. Let op het gedeelte discussie.

Dank.

[maddox]

Er is dan ook geen discusie. Turk4ever verzameld gewoon alle uitspraken/artikels of semi wetenschappelijke internet schrijfsels die erop kunnen wijzen dat de genocide op de Armeniers of een goeie zaak was, of niet bestond. Of dat Armeniers nazies avant la lettre waren.

De enige Armeenische dame die ik ken is een heel lieve vriendelijke juwelenontwerpster in Istanbul. En die heeft een afkeer van turkse mannen. veel te Macho.

[exodus]

Oorspronkelijk geplaatst door Turk4Ever

Armeniers zijn behoorlijk anti Joods. Tijdens wereldoorlog twee

En U bent behoorlijk anti-Armenisch blijkbaar....

[Joriske]

Ja, de Turkse propagandamachine is blijkbaar tilt geslagen.......

Als je goed leest zul je op Turkse revisionistische sites de bewering vinden dat Armeniërs van 1912-1921 ook 300,000 sefardische joden hebben vermoord.

Het probleem: in Oost-Anatolië woonden er volgens de Joden zelf geen sefardische Joden.

Het fabeltje werd uitgevonden om de Joodse lobby in de VS op te jutten tegen de Armeense.

Wat hierboven is gepost past in hetzelfde kader.

Ter informatie: op een grote genocide-conferentie in Yerevan in April jl was er wel degelijk een delegatie uit Israël, oa een lid van de Knesset; en Armeense en Joodse geleerden werken constant samen in de studie van de Armeense en Joodse genocides.

300,000 van 2,000,000 Armeniërs in Sovjet-Armenië lieten het leven in WO2 in de strijd tegen Hitler.

It doesn't have to be this way. I think that our attitude toward such a dreadful historic event cannot be dictated by our friendly relations with Turkey, even though that relationship is particularly important to me as one who worked so hard to develop it. I also see the contradiction between the political track and the ethical one. Something happened that cannot be defined except as genocide. One-and-a-half million people disappeared. It wasn't negligence, it was deliberate. I do not think that the government has to take an official decision on the issue, but we must clarify to the Turks that we cannot accept their political demands to ignore a historical event. An ethical stand cannot be dictated by political needs--these are two separate tracks.

(Yossi Beilin, Minister van Onderwijs van Israël, in antwoord op Shimon Peres)

[Mephisto]

Turken zijn behoorlijk anti-Joods.

Anders gezegd: vervang in deze tekst het woord "Armenië" door "Turkije" en "Arminiër" door "Turk" en het klopt ook:

"Turken zijn behoorlijk anti Joods. Tijdens wereldoorlog twee hebben ze onder andere vrijwillig geholpen bij de end-losung van de Joden. Vele Joden zijn tijdens WOII door Turken vermoord. In deze topic zal ik bewijs voor het Turkse anti-semitisme posten.


CHRISTIAN ANTI-SEMITISM IN THE OTTOMAN EMPIRE
Prof. Stanford Shaw

"Blood libel accusations were made against Jews by Ottoman Christian subjects starting in the sixteenth century, most frequently in the Arab provinces, first at Jerusalem in 1546. The most famous Christian assault on Ottoman Jews in medieval times came in the central Anatolian town of Amasya some time between 1530 and 1540, when a blood-libel accusation against local Jews was spread by local Turks who said that an Turkish woman had seen Jews slaughter a young Turkish boy and use his blood at the feast of Passover. Several days of rioting and pillaging and attacks on Jews followed...Later, however, the Turkish boy who supposedly had been murdered was found and the Ottoman governor punished the Turkish accusers, though nothing could be done about the Jews who had suffered."[1]

[Firestone]

Oorspronkelijk geplaatst door exodus

En U bent behoorlijk anti-Armenisch blijkbaar....

Allez Exodus, we zijn het niet vaak eens, hé, maar deze ultra-korte reactie zegt werkelijk alles wat er gezegd moet worden!