UNITE! Info #251en: 2/2 Stefan Lanka interview on "bird flu" etc

UNITE! Info #251en: 2/2 Stefan Lanka interview on "bird flu" etc
[Posted: 22.02.2006]

[Continued from part 1/2]


And it's quite simple:

A thousand pieces of indirect proof, corn circles for in-
stance, do not make an UFO either. You don't even have to know
English, so as to read those publications to which the virus
swindlers are referring, in order to see for yourself that
nowhere in them does a virus appear: If you ask those scien-
tists for proof of the existence of the purported viruses, for
instance that of H5N1, you will get only evasions in return
and never a concrete answer.

On TV we have heard time and again that the investigations
were carried out in an English laboratory. The name of that
English laboratory the public has not gotten to know. It's the
reference laboratory of the EU for bird flu, in Weybridge. I
have asked the scientists several times for the pieces of
proof of the existence of the H5N1 virus. They have replied to
me only once, and after that never again, and wrote that they
did not understand my question.

To the World Health Organization and in particular to the bird
flu pandemic co-ordinator, the German Klaus Stöhr, I also have
written several times and asked for proof of the existence of
the bird flu virus. Neither the WHO nor Klaus Stöhr has reac-
ted to this.

BUT WHAT DOES THIS H5N1, which makes the whole world tremble,
mean?

The "H" in H5N1 stands for haemaglutinin, the "N" stands for
neuraminidase.

The pseudovirologists are maintaining that in the protective
coat of influenza viruses, there are albumins of the type
haemaglutinin and albumins of the type of the enzyme neurami-
nidase.

As haemaglutinin, in biochemistry the most diverse substances
are being referred to, not only albumins, which are causing
the red blood-corpuscles to lump together with each other.

The pseudovirologists have jointly agreed that in the protec-
tive coat of influenza viruses there supposedly are 15 dif-
ferent kinds of albumins having the property of a haemagluti-
nin. The "5" here stands for Type Five of a purported albumin,
whose existence, again, is also only being demonstrated in-
directly.

Now in order to prove the existence of an influenza virus, in
the laboratory red blood-corpuscles are mixed with samples in
which there supposedly is the purported virus. If the red
blood-corpuscles lump together, then it is maintained that a
haemaglutinin in an influenza virus must be the cause of this,
without there ever having been isolated a virus from - not to
speak of, there ever having been seen a virus in - such a
sample or from/in such a mixture.

From the way in which the lumping together occurs the pseudo-
virologists then conclude, precisely in the manner of the
seers in the cartoon Asterix and Obelix, which type of haema-
glutinin, supposedly, has been found. For this, these scien-
tists have available a multitude of test procedures, which by
their construction ascertain that precisely that type of
haemaglutinin which the "testing" scientist already has as-
sumed in advance would be present becomes indicated too.

Precisely the same is the case with the enzyme neuraminidase,
which is maintained to be a component part of the protecting
hood of influenza viruses. Here, 9 different types are being
maintained by the pseudovirologists to exist. In reality the
neuraminidase is an enzyme which by the separating off of
parts of an amino sugar called neuramin acid regulates that
surface tension which is decisive for the functioning of the
respective metabolism. Analogously to the "viral" haemagluti-
nin there is a multitude of corrupt test procedures which
"demonstrate" that result, that is, "the existence of" pre-
cisely that type of neuraminidase, which the "seeing" viro-
logist already had assumed in advance.

Therefore it is also no wonder that that turkey cock, be-
longing to the 73 years old farmer Dimitris Kominaris of the
East Aegean island Inousses, which ostensibly died of H5N1,
has vanished without a trace, that at the reference laboratory
in question demonstrably no sample from Greece has arrived
either, and that the clairvoyant media however have reported
that a first sample has confirmed the suspicion.

For demonstrating the existence of H5N1, really no sample is
necessary either, since, as is the case with all purported
contagious diseases, it is a question of a planned action,
intended for political reasons to induce fear.

IN THE MEDIA, PHOTOS of bird flu viruses and influenza viruses
constantly are being shown. Some of these photos show round
formations. Are those not viruses?

No! Firstly, those round formations which supposedly are in-
fluenza viruses are, as every molecular-biologist can see,
artificially produced particles consisting of fats and
albumins. The layman can check on this by asking for a scien-
tific publication in which these pictures are reproduced and
described and the composition of the formations shown is
documented. Such a publication does not exist.

Secondly, those pictures which supposedly show bird flu
viruses in reality show, as every biologist can make out
without any doubt about it, quite normal component parts of
cells, or even show complete cells which happen to be in the
process of exporting or importing cell and metabolism compo-
nent parts. Again, the layman can check on this very pre-
cisely, by asking for those publications on which those photos
are based and from which they originate: He will never receive
such publications. The scaremongerers' craft guild is loath to
expose its trade basis, the swindles with laboratory and
animal experiments.

If you ask the picture agencies or a news agency such as the
dpa from where they are getting these photos of theirs, then
they will refer you to the American contagious-disease autho-
rity the CDC of the Pentagon. From this CDC it is that the
only photo of the purported H5N1 originates too.

This photo shows the length section cut and also the cross
section cut of tubes in cells which have been caused to die in
a test-tube. These small tubes in the professional language
are called microtubuli, and serve the transport and communica-
tion in the cell and in the process of cell division.

IT HAS BEEN DEMONSTRATED HOWEVER THAT H5N1 kills hen embryos
and can be cultivated in eggs. Where is the rat to be smelled
in this?

These experiments have been used already since over 100 years
back, in order to "prove" the existence of several "viruses"
quite different from each other, for instance also that of the
purported smallpox virus. In these experiments, extracts are
being injected through the eggshell into the embryo. Depending
on how much is injected and where in the embryo the supposedly
"virus-infected" extract is injected, the embryo dies faster
or more slowly. It would die from such injections in precisely
the same manner too if the extracts were sterilized in ad-
vance.

This killing then is presented by those virologists, firstly,
as direct proof of the existence of the respective virus,
secondly as proof of the possibility of multiplying the virus,
and thirdly and simultaneously as proof of the isolation of
the virus.

From hen embryos killed in this way, millions of which are
dying silently each year at the vaccine manufacturers',
various vaccine substances are being produced.

Besides hen embryos, also cells are being killed in test-tubes
in order to present the dying of these cells as proof of the
existence, the multiplying and the isolation of a disease-
causing virus.

Nowhere however is a virus being isolated in this manner,
photographed in an electron microscope and its component parts
described in processes of the type called electrophoresis.

BUT THEN WHAT DOES KILL THE ANIMALS in the animal experiments,
if it is not the H5N1?

Concerning this too you only have to take a look at the publi-
cations in which these animal experiments are described. Hens
are being slowly suffocated to death within three days by
means of administering a fluid to them through the windpipe
tube.

In small Java monkeys, 30 days before the purported infection
temperature transmitters are being placed in the abdomen, 5
days before the purported infection they are fixated in an air
sub-pressure chamber and at the point of the so-called infec-
tion, an amount of liquid corresponding to 6 schnapps glasses
for humans is pressed through the tube in the windpipe of
these young animals. Parts of the same extract from dying,
that is putrefying, cells are sprayed into both eyes and into
the tonsils of the animals. In many cases, suffocation attacks are caused in
the animals by means of rinsing the bronchial tubes, etc. The resulting
damage and destruction is then presented as the result of H5N1.

I have informed the earlier Minister for Consumer Protection,
Künast, and the present minister, Trittin, who are presenting
themselves as protectors of animals, about this, via their
personal reporters. There was no reaction.

BUT THE VIRUS OF THE SPANISH FLU has been reconstructed gene-
tically and also has been demonstrated to be a bird flu virus!

What, so to speak, was reconstructed genetically is nothing
else than a model of the genetic substance of an influenza
virus. An influenza virus has never been isolated. A genetic
substance of an influenza virus has never been isolated
either. All that has been done is multiplying gene substance
by means of the biochemical multiplication method "polymerase
chain reaction". With this method it also is possible to mul-
tiply arbitrarily new, never earlier existing, short pieces of
gene substance.

Thus it's possible with this technique also to manipulate the
genetic fingerprint, that is, to test someone as identical to
or different from a sample that has been "found". Only if very
much of gene substance that can be compared is found will the
genetic fingerprint, provided the process is carried out pro-
perly, provide a certain probability of a match.

Dr Jeffery Taubenberger, from whom the allegation of a recon-
struction of the 1918 pandemic virus originates, works for the
US-American army and has worked for more than 10 years on pro-
ducing, on the basis of samples from different human corpses,
short pieces of gene substance by means of the biochemical
multiplication technique PCR. Out of the multitude of produced
pieces he has selected those which came closest to the model
of the genetic substance of the idea of an influenza virus,
and has published these.

In no corpse however was a virus seen or isolated or was a
piece of gene substance from a such isolated. By means of the
PCR technique there were produced out of nothing pieces of
gene substance whose earlier existence in the corpse could not
be demonstrated.

If viruses had been present, then these could have been iso-
lated, and out of them their gene substance could have been
isolated too; there would have been no necessity for anyone to
produce laboriously, by means of PCR technique - with clearly
a swindle intention - a patchwork quilt of a model of the
genetic substance of the idea of an influenza virus.

HOW CAN A LAYMAN check on this?

About these short pieces of gene substance, which in the sense
of genetics are not complete and which do not even suffice for
defining a gene, it is being maintained that they together
would make up the entire gene substance of an influenza virus.

In order to see through this swindle one only has to be able
to add up the published length pieces, in order to ascertain
that the sum of the lengths of the individual pieces, which
supposedly makes up the entire viral gene substance of the
purported influenza virus, does not make up the length of the
idea of the genome of the influenza virus model.

Even simpler it is to ask in what publication you can find the
electron microscope photo of this supposedly reconstructed
virus. There is no such publication.

IT'S BEING MAINTAINED that these experiments have demonstrated
that this reconstructed virus from 1918 would kill very ef-
fectively. What might be untrue in this?

If I inject into a hen embryo a mixture of artificially-pro-
duced pieces of gene substance and albumins and aim at the
centre of its heart, then it dies faster than if I only inject
the mixture into the embryo peripherically.

If I expose cells in a test-tube to a quantity of artificial-
ly-produced gene substance and albumins, then they die faster
than under the standard conditions for cells' dying in a test-
tube, something which "normally" is being presented as proof
of the existence, as proof of the isolation and as proof of
the multiplication of the purported virus.

Based on this artificially produced gene substance, which is
presented as viral, models of albumins are being made with
computers. Proceeding from these albumin models, the appearan-
ce of the entire virus is reconstructed with computers.

That is all, but the whole world believes that you can recon-
struct viruses in laboratories. Thus it's no wonder either
that, referring to statements by the CIA and by the British
secret service MI6, it is being maintained that in North
Korea, the communist regime would now be producing flu viruses
even more deadly than H5N1.

WHAT CONCLUSIONS do you draw from this?

Since the head of the supposed al-Qaida, Bin Laden, has not
been found, al-Qaida in Arabic only means The Road and nothing
had been heard of this organization before the hotcleaning-up
of the collapse-endangered skyscrapers in New York, since,
just as the supposed smallpox viruses have not been found,
there were not found any mass destruction weapons of Saddam's,
which were the reason for the second Iraq war, and now once
more some deadly viruses are being maintained to exist, it
should be obvious who in reality are the terrorists and who in
reality are the suicide bombers: All who are participating in
the virus panic and are contributing to it!

In the pandemic plans a possible breakdown of the provisioning
and of public order, in connection with the declaring of a
bird flu pandemic, has been envisaged by the WHO. The esti-
mates of up to 100 million deaths should be taken seriously.

As being under threat I see all inhabitants of homes for the
aged, who in a breaking-out of chaos and a breakdown of the
provisioning systems, and with those the public order, will be
the first, and besides small children the most protectionless
and defenceless, victims. Hardly possible to depict would it
be, if the contagious-disease makers would declare the
emergency already during the winter.

DOES THEN THE SUBSTANCE TAMIFLU, which is now being purchased
with tax money and stocked, protect people from the bird flu?

That this substance protects against a flu nobody is main-
taining.

Tamiflu is supposed to function as a neuraminidase-restraining
agent. It restrains in an organism the function of the sugar
neuraminidase acid, which is co-responsible for the surface
tension in the cells.

Those side effects which are noted on the instruction slips
accompanying packages of Tamiflu are almost identical to the
symptoms of a serious influenza. On a large scale, thus, medi-
cines are now being stored which cause precisely the same
symptoms as those which appear in an actual so-called in-
fluenza - and which will discontinue, with a doctor, after
seven days, and without a doctor after a week.

If Tamiflu is administered to sick persons, then this is
likely to cause far more serious symptoms than those of a
serious influenza. If a pandemic is stated to exist, then many
people will take this medicine at the same time. In that case
we will actually have unequivocal symptoms of a Tamiflu epi-
demic. Then also deaths caused by Tamiflu are to be expected,
and this will then be presented as evidence of the dangerous
nature of the bird flu and evidence of how anxious is the
state that people should be in good health.

In this, the well-tested AIDS pattern is being repeated. In
Spain it's noted on the instruction slips accompanying
packages of AIDS medicine that it is not known whether the
symptoms are caused by the medicine or by the virus.

THEN YOU WILL ALSO NOT RECOMMEND any general vaccination or
the specially developed vaccination against the bird flu?

I am not recommending any madness.

Every vaccination substance contains poisonous substances
which have effects during a long time resulting in smaller or
larger permanent injury. The infection protection law re-
quires, as necessary precondition for a vaccination's being
justified, the *"is"*, the fact of there existing something
which causes a disease, for instance a virus.

Since none of the so-called diseasecausing viruses can be, nor
should be, maintained to exist, there can also be no lawful
vaccinations against influenza, and none against bird flu
either.

Every vaccination which has occurred in Germany after the in-
fection protection law became operative on 01.01.2000 is a
crime of serious bodily assault. Of course I am not recommen-
ding people to surrender themselves to become victims of
lawbreakings and crimes.

WHAT IN YOUR OPINION LIES BEHIND ALL THIS which we are now
experiencing here?

About this one can only speculate.

Of course the pharmaceutial industry is happy about the big
business with the bird flu panic. But in fact every individual
lies behind this madness. The situation is what it is. The
situation could only come to this because we as citizens have
tolerated that our state acts in this way against people,
although our state is formally a democratic state built on
law.

Anyone who waits for the pharmaceutical industry to do some-
thing for the good of people concerning this will wait in
vain. "Wer sich jetzt nicht wehrt, der lebt verkehrt" - "You
don't now put up a defence? Your life won't have the right
sense."

Anyone can ask the Ministry for Consumer Protection, the Mi-
nistry for Public Health etc for that scientific proof which
would justify the bird flu panic.

Anyone who waits for "the others" to do something should not
wonder if those others do nothing and the situation does not
remain what it is but even gets much worse. In the final in-
stance we, the citizens, stand behind this, in that we for
years without doing anything about it have seen the whole
madness around us and have tolerated it. Here we must begin to
take social responsibility, if we do not want to surrender and
sacrifice ourselves to the total domination and chaos of an
uncontrolled pseudoscience.

MUST THEN in your opinion science be combated?

The domination of the pseudoscience must be overcome by means
of a social science which is characterized by its obligation
to truthfulness and by the possibility to check on it and to
control its actions.

The language of the present university medical science reveals
that in it, a democratically-lawfully uncontrolled domination
stands in the foreground, when the school medicine practitio-
ners and the state are referring, as justification for their
actions, to the "dominating opinion in medical science" to
which we supposedly have to submit also if this domination
maintains that the babies are brought by the stork or that the
earth is a flat disk.

We have however no reason to complain.

We it is, is it not, who are tolerating this governmental line
of conduct. Anyway nobody should wonder, if he continues to
tolerate that we must surrender ourselves to this domination,
as we are doing now faced with the absurdity of the bird flu
allegations, if then he wakes up one morning and with horror
finds that he is dead: Killed by that domination which he as
citizen of a democratic state built on law has tolerated.

In a democratic state built on law, the bird flu panic would
be just as impossible as would AIDS and vaccinations. We the
citizens must bring about the state built on law. Then not
only AIDS but also the pseudoscience and the bird flu will
have no chance. I can only say: Don't give the bird flu a
chance! Don't believe the lies you are being told! Check
things out! Use your reason!

For those who want to do something: At www.agenda-leben.de
there are suggestions.


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[The German original: © 2005 FAKTuell ®]

Note: I'm bringing this translation in its present form as
made by me, despite the fact that my knowledge both of biology
and of medicine is very slight and neither English nor German
is a mother tongue of mine, because I hold this interview to
be important. Hoping that I've made no big errors in the
above, I shall submit it to checking-out by some others who,
I believe, will find all such if there are some anyway. All
readers of this too are very welcome to send me their criti-
cisms. If it turns out that major corrections and/or improve-
ments are needed, I shall incorporate them here at my homepage
in a version or in versions later, which will then be dated
too. Here's my e-mail address again. - RM, 22.02.2006
[[email protected]]

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