Muslims use violence to get what they want from Europe

http://drhelen.blogspot.com/2006/02/...reaten-to.html


Need a Welfare Check? Just Threaten to Riot
"If you reward cruelty with kindness, with what do you reward kindness?"
--Hillel

You would think that governments as well as people in general would
understand that appeasing and rewarding negative behavior doesn't work. It's
basic psychology 101--but one that not even most psychology professors
understand or put to use. And apparently, this concept is foreign to many of
the politically correct persuasion outside the classroom as well--for them,
their feeling of moral "superiority" trumps human nature and causes liberals
to turn a blind eye to justice and acts of violence.

In Bruce Bawer's new book, While Europe Slept: How Radical Islam is
Destroying the West from Within,the side effects of the appeasement of
Muslims by the Danish government are clear--as their government pumps more
and more welfare money into the pockets of disgruntled Muslims, the rate of
violence against "infidels" there increases.

Bawer points out that in Denmark, Muslims make up only 5% of the population
but receive 40% of welfare outlays. Many of these immigrants are told by
their leaders that Muslim law gives them the right to "cheat and lie in the
countries that harbor them." They are told to view the benefits they receive
as jizya--the tributes that "the infidel natives of Muslim-occupied
countries are obliged to pay to Muslims in order to preserve their lives."
And the welfare offices in Denmark can be the setting for violence--termed
"culture clashes" by Danish journalists. "Some clients lay waste to social
security offices and hit social workers--not out of frustration but because
they've learned that bullying gets them what they want. The Danish
government is not repressive; welfare workers tend to be sympathetic and
eager to help. Many immigrants perceive this as weakness, and exploit it,
'tyrannizing' the social workers." The Danish solution? More PC
behavior--get translators to translate not only between languages but
between cultures. Yeah, that will work.

Having worked with social security disability clients for 15 years, I can
tell you that human nature is the same all over. The more competent clients
who had held jobs and had truly bad misfortunes happen to them were often
kind and treated me with respect. Those who had never worked, been fed a
steady diet of entittlement and justification of the "system owing them"
from family members and society were the most abusive, often threatening me
or treating me as an object to be used to get them what they wanted (not
that it worked one way or another--I just wrote an objective report
regardless of threats etc.). I learned to talk in a big booming voice that
commanded authority and never swayed from speaking in an objective
manner-of-fact tone. Once the potentially violent client saw that I was not
intimidated by threats or strong language, they often settled down and
cooperated. Too bad European countries haven't learned this
lesson--appeasement of violence doesn't work.

I think the last paragraph of Bower's book summarizes the conflict of the PC
Danish approach to conflict best:

"The irony was tragic: .......having instituted a welfare system meant to
safeguard every last one of them from so much as a moment's financial
insecurity, and having built up a culture of extraordinary freedom and
tolerance that promised each of them a life of absolute dignity and perfect
equality, postwar Dutch men and women had raised up their children into
tall, strapping, healthy, multilingual young adults--
....and yet they'd turned a blind eye to the very peril that would destroy
them."

Dutch cartoons anyone?

TR throlled:

Here we go again. It's trolling time.
In:
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soc.culture.baltics, soc.culture.bangladesh, soc.culture.belgium,
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Never ending bullshit and anti-muslim propagnda!

ЗдравÑ?твуйтÐ� � (definitely not Shalom)!
Ördög
Either the neocons go or civilisation does!

On 20 Feb 2006 01:56:45 -0800, "Ordog" <[email protected]>
wrote:

>TR throlled:
>
>Here we go again. It's trolling time.
>In:
>soc.culture.arabic, soc.culture.argentina, soc.culture.australian,
>soc.culture.baltics, soc.culture.bangladesh, soc.culture.belgium,
>soc.culture.brazil, soc.culture.british, soc.culture.bulgaria,
>soc.culture.canada
>
>TROLL TROLL TROLL TROLL TROLL TROLL TROLL TROLL TROLL TROLL TROLL
>
>Never ending bullshit and anti-muslim propagnda!
>
>???????????? (definitely not Shalom)!
>Ördög
>Either the neocons go or civilisation does!

This the animals demand when they are only 5% of the population, wait
till they reach 30 or 40%, then you can kiss the Western civilization
goodbye.

On Sun, 19 Feb 2006 20:52:24 GMT, "TR" <[email protected]> wrote:

>Need a Welfare Check? Just Threaten to Riot
>"If you reward cruelty with kindness, with what do you reward kindness?"

Il y a en France un vieux proverbe qui répond : "oignez vilain, il
vous poindra, poignez vilain, il vous oindra".

"strixbubo" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On Sun, 19 Feb 2006 20:52:24 GMT, "TR" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>Need a Welfare Check? Just Threaten to Riot
>>"If you reward cruelty with kindness, with what do you reward
>>kindness?"
>
> Il y a en France un vieux proverbe qui répond : "oignez vilain, il
> vous poindra, poignez vilain, il vous oindra".

That's why the thuggish creepy Russians will never be civilised.

They behaved just as badly as the Nazis (only for longer and more
widely), but they have never had to apologise or pay compensation.

So they think what they did was OK and some would even like to do it all
over again.

Meanwhile they are obnoxiously unapologetic and from rasPutin downwards
they think that the break-up of the USSR was "the biggest tragedy of the
20th century".

«Pas de deux» wrote:
> "strixbubo" <[email protected]> wrote in message

> Meanwhile they are obnoxiously unapologetic and from rasPutin downwards
> they think that the break-up of the USSR was "the biggest tragedy of the
> 20th century".

But it was. Only true morons do not understand this. Or do not want to.
The only one benefitting from the disintegration of that country is
that single remaining superpower. The arrogance it displays now speaks
for itself.

If you wish to service shrub by ars licking just say so. I am sure
neocons are very willing to sell you tickets for that great
opportunity.


Ördög
Either the neocons go or civilisation does!

Nusrat wrote:

> This the animals demand when they are only 5% of the population, wait
> till they reach 30 or 40%, then you can kiss the Western civilization
> goodbye.

You should watch something more reliable than the Fox "news?".

Islam is well beyond the 5% mark now. Screeming alarm won't save you.
Try something less moronic.
Like taking your anti-paranoia medication regularly!

Ördög
Either the neocons go or civilisation does!

On 20 Feb 2006 14:04:05 -0800, "Ordog" <[email protected]>
wrote:

>Nusrat wrote:
>
>> This the animals demand when they are only 5% of the population, wait
>> till they reach 30 or 40%, then you can kiss the Western civilization
>> goodbye.
>
>You should watch something more reliable than the Fox "news?".
>
>Islam is well beyond the 5% mark now. Screeming alarm won't save you.
>Try something less moronic.
>Like taking your anti-paranoia medication regularly!
>
>Ördög
>Either the neocons go or civilisation does!

Hating child molesting pervert is paranoia?
Why not stick with your butt lifting and leave psychotherapy for
experts?

strixbubo <[email protected]> wrote:

> >"If you reward cruelty with kindness, with what do you reward kindness?"
>
> Il y a en France un vieux proverbe qui répond : "oignez vilain, il
> vous poindra, poignez vilain, il vous oindra".

The babelfish translation into English comes up as:

"oignez unpleasant, it will sting you, come up unpleasant, it will
oindra you".

It has a certain je ne sais quoi, n'est-ce pas? :)

There is an old Sufi story on this theme. A Sufi goes to the bath-house,
and is treated badly, ignored, kept waiting etc., but when he leaves, he
calls in the attendants and gives them each a very handsome tip.

The next day, he goes back to the bath-house, where they are very
attentive, look after his every want and generally give him the
treatment usually reserved for their best customers. Again he calls them
together as he's leaving, and gives each of them a very miserly tip.

When they ask him to explain why he has done this, he says, '"It's
simple. Yesterday I gave you today's tip. Today, I gave you
yesterday's."

Rifty
--
Academic and Computing Help
http://rifty.net

Nusrat wrote:
>"Ordog" wrote:

> Hating child molesting pervert is paranoia?

Hating people might not be a very useful thing to do, but that is your
private business. Seeing child molesters everywhere, specially where
there aren't any is the symptome of a potentially dangerous mental
disease. You dshould get urgent treatment for it!

> Why not stick with your butt lifting and leave psychotherapy for
> experts?

I do not have any interest in treating psychopatic morons like you.
There are professionals for that sort of thing!

Ördög
Either the neocons go or civilisation does!

Vitae forma vocatur strixbubo <[email protected]>, die Mon, 20 Feb
2006 16:00:53 +0100, in littera
<[email protected]> in foro
soc.culture.belgium(et aliis) vere scripsit quod sequitur:

>On Sun, 19 Feb 2006 20:52:24 GMT, "TR" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>Need a Welfare Check? Just Threaten to Riot
>>"If you reward cruelty with kindness, with what do you reward kindness?"
>
>Il y a en France un vieux proverbe qui répond : "oignez vilain, il
>vous poindra, poignez vilain, il vous oindra".


Dans un autre registre celui-ci:
"Suivez une femme elle vous fuira, fuyez une femme et elle vous
suivra"

et celui-ci, de Napoléon paraît-il:
"L'amour c'est l'inverse de la guerre, la preuve en est qu'en amour la
seule attitude courageuse, c'est la fuite".
--
Fusti
users.online.be/icone/scn/scn.htm

On 21 Feb 2006 01:04:14 -0800, "Ordog" <[email protected]>
wrote:

>Nusrat wrote:
>>"Ordog" wrote:
>
>> Hating child molesting pervert is paranoia?
>
>Hating people might not be a very useful thing to do, but that is your
>private business. Seeing child molesters everywhere, specially where
>there aren't any is the symptome of a potentially dangerous mental
>disease. You dshould get urgent treatment for it!

No one except you denies Mohammed married a 6 yr old child. This is
perfectly fine in your Islamic perversion but humans would be
appalled.
Wish there was a treatment for Islam except a nuke for Mecca.

>> Why not stick with your butt lifting and leave psychotherapy for
>> experts?
>
>I do not have any interest in treating psychopatic morons like you.
>There are professionals for that sort of thing!
>
>Ördög
>Either the neocons go or civilisation does!

I have a strong desire to rid humanity of Islamic filth, do you mind.

Nusrat <[email protected]> wrote:

> Wish there was a treatment for Islam except a nuke for Mecca.

One nuke for Mecca, a hundred years of continuous chemical, biological
and guerilla attacks in every city of the country from which the bomb
came, and in every city of every other country that supported it.

Sounds like a nice way to spend the rest of the century....

Rifty
--
Academic and Computing Help
http://rifty.net

"Rifty" <[email protected]> a écrit dans le message de news:
1hb4fuo.1snjvmz1c97v34N%[email protected]...
> strixbubo <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> >"If you reward cruelty with kindness, with what do you reward
>> >kindness?"
>>
>> Il y a en France un vieux proverbe qui répond : "oignez vilain, il
>> vous poindra, poignez vilain, il vous oindra".
>
> The babelfish translation into English comes up as:
>
> "oignez unpleasant, it will sting you, come up unpleasant, it will
> oindra you".
>
> It has a certain je ne sais quoi, n'est-ce pas? :)
>

Quand Babelfish ne s'en sort pas, il est parfois utile de changer la
personne, parce que ça peut être un problème de conjugaison.
Donc en remplaçant "oignez" par "oignons", ça ne va pas mieux ? :-)

--
Andrée

On Wed, 22 Feb 2006 01:49:05 +1100, [email protected] (Rifty) wrote:

>Nusrat <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Wish there was a treatment for Islam except a nuke for Mecca.
>
>One nuke for Mecca, a hundred years of continuous chemical, biological
>and guerilla attacks in every city of the country from which the bomb
>came, and in every city of every other country that supported it.
>
>Sounds like a nice way to spend the rest of the century....
>Rifty

If Muslims were to embark on a scorched earth policy with the West, I
don't believe it would be too much trouble to eliminate all of them
from our midst.

Nusrat <[email protected]> wrote:

> If Muslims were to embark on a scorched earth policy with the West, I
> don't believe it would be too much trouble to eliminate all of them
> from our midst.

Like it is to eliminate 'insurgents' in Iraq, do you mean?

Rifty
--
Academic and Computing Help
http://rifty.net

"Ordog" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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Nusrat wrote:
>"Ordog" wrote:

> Hating child molesting pervert is paranoia?

Hating people might not be a very useful thing to do, but that is your
private business. Seeing child molesters everywhere, specially where
there aren't any is the symptome of a potentially dangerous mental
disease. You dshould get urgent treatment for it!


What's the matter Ordog, too ignorant to know that Mohammed married a six
year old girl and banged her at 9?

"Rifty" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:1hb5tk0.ypxnsy5ymyxcN%[email protected]...
> Nusrat <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> If Muslims were to embark on a scorched earth policy with the West, I
>> don't believe it would be too much trouble to eliminate all of them
>> from our midst.
>
> Like it is to eliminate 'insurgents' in Iraq, do you mean?

Eliminating insugents in Iraq would be a piece of cake if we weren't so
polite about how we do it.

On Wed, 22 Feb 2006 12:10:26 +1100, [email protected] (Rifty) wrote:

>Nusrat <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> If Muslims were to embark on a scorched earth policy with the West, I
>> don't believe it would be too much trouble to eliminate all of them
>> from our midst.
>
>Like it is to eliminate 'insurgents' in Iraq, do you mean?
>Rifty

In Iraq the animals have home turf advantage, here in States we can
get rid of them all in a few days.

"Ordog" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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«Pas de deux» wrote:
> "strixbubo" <[email protected]> wrote in message

> Meanwhile they are obnoxiously unapologetic and from rasPutin downwards
> they think that the break-up of the USSR was "the biggest tragedy of the
> 20th century".

But it was. Only true morons do not understand this. Or do not want to.
The only one benefitting from the disintegration of that country is
that single remaining superpower.

Gee Ordog, every time you put your fingers on the keyboard you sound
stupider and more obsessed. Ask the people of Latvia, Lithuania, Estonia,
Ukrain, Belarus, Kazakhastan, etc. etc. if they are happy to be rid of
Russian domination? Ask anyone in Eastern Europe if they are happy that the
Soviet Union disintegrated. How about those people celebrating as they took
apart the Berlin wall. Were they just stooges placed there by neocons.

Tell me folks, do any of you actually listen to this obsessed dumb fuck
Ordog?