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Oud 2 oktober 2006, 21:55   #1
+ Dagoberth +
 
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Standaard Britse NAVO wil belegerde main basis evacueren en verzoekt om vrijgeleide deal metTaliban

Jaaps hoop in bange dagen maakt geheime deal met de Afghaanse vijand. Ze
vragen zelfs burgers om te bemiddelen met de Taliban om tijdens de NATO
aftocht niet te schieten. Maar voor de NATO is voorkomen van politiek en
militair gezichtverlies een hot item, dus in de media zal dit dus als een
overwinning gepland worden. De tijd zal het leren.

>>>Paras almost retreated under Taliban assault

By Tom Coghlan
(Filed: 02/10/2006)

British forces in southern Afghanistan came within hours of retreating from
a key base because they suffered a critical shortage of helicopters, the
task force commander has disclosed.

In an exclusive interview with The Daily Telegraph Brig Ed Butler said
Taliban fire was so heavy and accurate at Musa Qala, a key forward base in
northern Helmand, that Army helicopters faced a serious risk of being hit.

Brigadier Ed Butler, commander of British Forces in Afghanistan
He said the loss of such crucial equipment - together with the political
impact of a large loss of life - meant he came close to ordering his
soldiers to abandon the base.

Brig Butler said he had warned his superiors early last month that the
intensity of Taliban attacks was such that mounting air supply and casualty
evacuation missions was likely to lead to the loss of Chinook helicopters.

The brigadier, who leaves his posting at the end of the week, said: "The
strategic significance of losing Musa Qala would have been huge, but that
was set against the likelihood of helicopters being lost. The political
impact, particularly so soon after the loss of the Nimrod, was also going to
be huge." <<<

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main...2/wtroops02.xm
l

+ + Dagoberth + +



 
Oud 2 oktober 2006, 22:25   #2
Ron
 
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Standaard Re: Britse NAVO wil belegerde main basis evacueren en verzoekt om vrijgeleide deal metTaliban


"+ Dagoberth +" <[email protected]> schreef in bericht
news:[email protected]. ..
> Jaaps hoop in bange dagen maakt geheime deal met de Afghaanse vijand. Ze
> vragen zelfs burgers om te bemiddelen met de Taliban om tijdens de NATO
> aftocht niet te schieten. Maar voor de NATO is voorkomen van politiek en
> militair gezichtverlies een hot item, dus in de media zal dit dus als een
> overwinning gepland worden. De tijd zal het leren.
>
>>>>Paras almost retreated under Taliban assault

> By Tom Coghlan
> (Filed: 02/10/2006)
>
> British forces in southern Afghanistan came within hours of retreating
> from
> a key base because they suffered a critical shortage of helicopters, the
> task force commander has disclosed.
>
> In an exclusive interview with The Daily Telegraph Brig Ed Butler said
> Taliban fire was so heavy and accurate at Musa Qala, a key forward base in
> northern Helmand, that Army helicopters faced a serious risk of being hit.
>
> Brigadier Ed Butler, commander of British Forces in Afghanistan
> He said the loss of such crucial equipment - together with the political
> impact of a large loss of life - meant he came close to ordering his
> soldiers to abandon the base.
>
> Brig Butler said he had warned his superiors early last month that the
> intensity of Taliban attacks was such that mounting air supply and
> casualty
> evacuation missions was likely to lead to the loss of Chinook helicopters.
>
> The brigadier, who leaves his posting at the end of the week, said: "The
> strategic significance of losing Musa Qala would have been huge, but that
> was set against the likelihood of helicopters being lost. The political
> impact, particularly so soon after the loss of the Nimrod, was also going
> to
> be huge." <<<
>
> http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main...2/wtroops02.xm
> l
>
> + + Dagoberth + +
>
>

Die bijna dagelijkse bodycount berichten van 20 Taliban gedood en de
volgende dag 35 Taliban gedood doen al langer vermoeden dat het niet wil
vlotten daar.


 
Oud 2 oktober 2006, 22:45   #3
+ Dagoberth +
 
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Standaard Re: Britse NAVO wil belegerde main basis evacueren en verzoekt om vrijgeleide deal metTaliban


Ron <[email protected]> schreef in berichtnieuws
[email protected]...
>
> "+ Dagoberth +" <[email protected]> schreef in bericht
> news:[email protected]. ..
> > Jaaps hoop in bange dagen maakt geheime deal met de Afghaanse vijand. Ze
> > vragen zelfs burgers om te bemiddelen met de Taliban om tijdens de NATO
> > aftocht niet te schieten. Maar voor de NATO is voorkomen van politiek en
> > militair gezichtverlies een hot item, dus in de media zal dit dus als

een
> > overwinning gepland worden. De tijd zal het leren.
> >
> >>>>Paras almost retreated under Taliban assault

> > By Tom Coghlan
> > (Filed: 02/10/2006)
> >
> > British forces in southern Afghanistan came within hours of retreating
> > from
> > a key base because they suffered a critical shortage of helicopters, the
> > task force commander has disclosed.
> >
> > In an exclusive interview with The Daily Telegraph Brig Ed Butler said
> > Taliban fire was so heavy and accurate at Musa Qala, a key forward base

in
> > northern Helmand, that Army helicopters faced a serious risk of being

hit.
> >
> > Brigadier Ed Butler, commander of British Forces in Afghanistan
> > He said the loss of such crucial equipment - together with the political
> > impact of a large loss of life - meant he came close to ordering his
> > soldiers to abandon the base.
> >
> > Brig Butler said he had warned his superiors early last month that the
> > intensity of Taliban attacks was such that mounting air supply and
> > casualty
> > evacuation missions was likely to lead to the loss of Chinook

helicopters.
> >
> > The brigadier, who leaves his posting at the end of the week, said: "The
> > strategic significance of losing Musa Qala would have been huge, but

that
> > was set against the likelihood of helicopters being lost. The political
> > impact, particularly so soon after the loss of the Nimrod, was also

going
> > to
> > be huge." <<<
> >
> >

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main...2/wtroops02.xm
> > l
> >
> > + + Dagoberth + +
> >
> >

> Die bijna dagelijkse bodycount berichten van 20 Taliban gedood en de
> volgende dag 35 Taliban gedood doen al langer vermoeden dat het niet wil
> vlotten daar.
>

Inderdaad, vooral veelzegend is de Amerikaanse NATO chief opmerking geweest,
dat eenmaal gedood de Taliban body count niet meer te onderscheiden is van
de lokaal omgekomen bevolking.

+ D +


 
Oud 2 oktober 2006, 22:45   #4
surodje
 
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Standaard Re: Britse NAVO wil belegerde main basis evacueren en verzoekt omvrijgeleide deal metTaliban

+ Dagoberth + schreef:
> Ron <[email protected]> schreef in berichtnieuws
> [email protected]...
>> "+ Dagoberth +" <[email protected]> schreef in bericht
>> news:[email protected]. ..
>>> Jaaps hoop in bange dagen maakt geheime deal met de Afghaanse vijand. Ze
>>> vragen zelfs burgers om te bemiddelen met de Taliban om tijdens de NATO
>>> aftocht niet te schieten. Maar voor de NATO is voorkomen van politiek en
>>> militair gezichtverlies een hot item, dus in de media zal dit dus als

> een
>>> overwinning gepland worden. De tijd zal het leren.
>>>
>>>>>> Paras almost retreated under Taliban assault
>>> By Tom Coghlan
>>> (Filed: 02/10/2006)
>>>
>>> British forces in southern Afghanistan came within hours of retreating
>>> from
>>> a key base because they suffered a critical shortage of helicopters, the
>>> task force commander has disclosed.
>>>
>>> In an exclusive interview with The Daily Telegraph Brig Ed Butler said
>>> Taliban fire was so heavy and accurate at Musa Qala, a key forward base

> in
>>> northern Helmand, that Army helicopters faced a serious risk of being

> hit.
>>> Brigadier Ed Butler, commander of British Forces in Afghanistan
>>> He said the loss of such crucial equipment - together with the political
>>> impact of a large loss of life - meant he came close to ordering his
>>> soldiers to abandon the base.
>>>
>>> Brig Butler said he had warned his superiors early last month that the
>>> intensity of Taliban attacks was such that mounting air supply and
>>> casualty
>>> evacuation missions was likely to lead to the loss of Chinook

> helicopters.
>>> The brigadier, who leaves his posting at the end of the week, said: "The
>>> strategic significance of losing Musa Qala would have been huge, but

> that
>>> was set against the likelihood of helicopters being lost. The political
>>> impact, particularly so soon after the loss of the Nimrod, was also

> going
>>> to
>>> be huge." <<<
>>>
>>>

> http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main...2/wtroops02.xm
>>> l
>>>
>>> + + Dagoberth + +
>>>
>>>

>> Die bijna dagelijkse bodycount berichten van 20 Taliban gedood en de
>> volgende dag 35 Taliban gedood doen al langer vermoeden dat het niet wil
>> vlotten daar.
>>

> Inderdaad, vooral veelzegend is de Amerikaanse NATO chief opmerking geweest,
> dat eenmaal gedood de Taliban body count niet meer te onderscheiden is van
> de lokaal omgekomen bevolking.
>
> + D +
>
>


Ik vind het best wel spannend hoe het afloopt. Ik bedoel hoe de Taliban
deze bezetters straks hun land zullen uitdrijven. Nog effe wachten op de
eerste onthoofdingen/stropingen en dan de huilende gezichten van Kamp en
de Hoop scheffer op TV. Dan lach ik mij helemaal kapot.
 
 



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