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Oud 21 oktober 2006, 22:35   #1
bola
 
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Standaard Europe Learns the Wrong Lessons

Not a pleasant read for some of you maybe, but interesting.

== begin quote ==

Nearly one third of Germans under 30 say that the U.S. government
ordered the 9/11 attacks. In France, a book insisting that Americans
carried out the assault themselves to increase defense budgets becomes a
huge bestseller. In Britain, major newspapers carry headlines like "The
USA is Now the World's Leading Rogue State."

Asked which countries are the biggest threat to world peace, Europeans
name the U.S as often as North Korea and Iran (each are picked by 53
percent). Countries characterized by Euros as less menacing than the
U.S. include Syria, Iraq, Russia, China, Afghanistan, Libya. As one
American living in Britain, Anglican minister Dwight Longenecker,
summarizes: "Our cultural ancestors have become unrecognizable, even
hostile, to us."

== end quote ==

http://www.taemag.com/issues/article...cle_detail.asp
 
Oud 21 oktober 2006, 22:35   #2
Goodcowboy
 
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On Sat, 21 Oct 2006 23:27:37 +0200, bola <[email protected]>
wrote:

>Not a pleasant read for some of you maybe, but interesting.
>
>== begin quote ==
>
>Nearly one third of Germans under 30 say that the U.S. government
>ordered the 9/11 attacks. In France, a book insisting that Americans
>carried out the assault themselves to increase defense budgets becomes a
>huge bestseller. In Britain, major newspapers carry headlines like "The
>USA is Now the World's Leading Rogue State."
>
>Asked which countries are the biggest threat to world peace, Europeans
>name the U.S as often as North Korea and Iran (each are picked by 53
>percent).


Dat is 159 procent van de stemmen voor maar drie landen.

>Countries characterized by Euros as less menacing than the
>U.S. include Syria, Iraq, Russia, China, Afghanistan, Libya. As one
>American living in Britain, Anglican minister Dwight Longenecker,
>summarizes: "Our cultural ancestors have become unrecognizable, even
>hostile, to us."
>
>== end quote ==
>
>http://www.taemag.com/issues/article...cle_detail.asp


 
Oud 21 oktober 2006, 23:55   #3
el misti
 
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Goodcowboy wrote:
> On Sat, 21 Oct 2006 23:27:37 +0200, bola <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>> Not a pleasant read for some of you maybe, but interesting.
>>
>> == begin quote ==
>>
>> Nearly one third of Germans under 30 say that the U.S. government
>> ordered the 9/11 attacks. In France, a book insisting that Americans
>> carried out the assault themselves to increase defense budgets
>> becomes a huge bestseller. In Britain, major newspapers carry
>> headlines like "The USA is Now the World's Leading Rogue State."
>>
>> Asked which countries are the biggest threat to world peace,
>> Europeans name the U.S as often as North Korea and Iran (each are
>> picked by 53 percent).

>
> Dat is 159 procent van de stemmen voor maar drie landen.


Zo hé! De Cowboy is een rekenwonder!
Jammer dat hij het doet voorkomen alsof hij een grote ontdekking gedaan heeft.

De vraag was natuurlijk: 'which countries are the biggest threat...', en niet 'which
country is the biggest threat...', dus mag je aannemen dat er meerdere landen genoemd
zouden worden per antwoord.

Niets raars aan dat bovengenoemde landen elk zo'n groot (eigenlijk: zo'n klein) percentage
van de stemmen kregen.


 
Oud 22 oktober 2006, 03:45   #4
Mr. Noise Guy
 
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bola wrote:
> Not a pleasant read for some of you maybe, but interesting.
>
> == begin quote ==
>
> Nearly one third of Germans under 30 say that the U.S. government
> ordered the 9/11 attacks. In France, a book insisting that Americans
> carried out the assault themselves to increase defense budgets becomes a
> huge bestseller. In Britain, major newspapers carry headlines like "The
> USA is Now the World's Leading Rogue State."
>
> Asked which countries are the biggest threat to world peace, Europeans
> name the U.S as often as North Korea and Iran (each are picked by 53
> percent). Countries characterized by Euros as less menacing than the
> U.S. include Syria, Iraq, Russia, China, Afghanistan, Libya. As one
> American living in Britain, Anglican minister Dwight Longenecker,
> summarizes: "Our cultural ancestors have become unrecognizable, even
> hostile, to us."
>
> == end quote ==
>
> http://www.taemag.com/issues/article...cle_detail.asp


When will Europe wake up and recognize that the muslims are the
greatest threat to world peace? And when will they do something about
that threat, other than complaining? Europe is right now playing into
the hands of the muslims, by opening its gates, welcoming the enemy
with open arms, and let them have their way. Pull your combined heads
out of your asses and face reality before it's too late (if it isn't
already). The muslims are the real enemy, but you appear too afraid to
admit it. Yeah, I know, it's easier to blame the U.S. We won't go after
you, but the muslims will.

-Mr. Noise Guy
Orangevale, California, U.S.A.

 
Oud 22 oktober 2006, 04:55   #5
 
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Mr. Noise Guy wrote:

> When will Europe wake up and recognize that the muslims are the
> greatest threat to world peace? And when will they do something about
> that threat, other than complaining? Europe is right now playing into
> the hands of the muslims, by opening its gates, welcoming the enemy
> with open arms, and let them have their way. Pull your combined heads
> out of your asses and face reality before it's too late (if it isn't


First of all, just because you are American doesn't mean that you can
tell us what to do. Secondly, there is no need to use such foul
language, en ten derde is *Nederlands* de voertaal in deze
*Nederlandse* nieuwsgroep.

> already). The muslims are the real enemy, but you appear too afraid to
> admit it. Yeah, I know, it's easier to blame the U.S. We won't go after
> you, but the muslims will.
>
> -Mr. Noise Guy
> Orangevale, California, U.S.A.


 
Oud 22 oktober 2006, 05:55   #6
Mr. Noise Guy
 
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[email protected] wrote:
> Mr. Noise Guy wrote:
>
> > When will Europe wake up and recognize that the muslims are the
> > greatest threat to world peace? And when will they do something about
> > that threat, other than complaining? Europe is right now playing into
> > the hands of the muslims, by opening its gates, welcoming the enemy
> > with open arms, and let them have their way. Pull your combined heads
> > out of your asses and face reality before it's too late (if it isn't

>
> First of all, just because you are American doesn't mean that you can
> tell us what to do. Secondly, there is no need to use such foul
> language, en ten derde is *Nederlands* de voertaal in deze
> *Nederlandse* nieuwsgroep.


Ten eerste vertelde ik jou niet wat te doen, gaf alleen wat advies; ten
tweede, ass betekent achterwerk, wat heel wat zachter klinkt dan de
vulgaire taal op deze NG waar van ik jou nooit iets heb horen zeggen;
ten derde beantwoorde ik een post die in het Engels was. Oh ja, en ten
vierde: go fly a kite.

-Mr. Noise Guy
Orangevale, California, U.S.A.

 
Oud 22 oktober 2006, 11:55   #7
Z.O.Z.
 
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"Mr. Noise Guy" <[email protected]> schreef in bericht
news:[email protected] ups.com...
> [email protected] wrote:
>> Mr. Noise Guy wrote:
>>
>> > When will Europe wake up and recognize that the muslims are the
>> > greatest threat to world peace? And when will they do something about
>> > that threat, other than complaining? Europe is right now playing into
>> > the hands of the muslims, by opening its gates, welcoming the enemy
>> > with open arms, and let them have their way. Pull your combined heads
>> > out of your asses and face reality before it's too late (if it isn't

>>
>> First of all, just because you are American doesn't mean that you can
>> tell us what to do. Secondly, there is no need to use such foul
>> language, en ten derde is *Nederlands* de voertaal in deze
>> *Nederlandse* nieuwsgroep.

>
> Ten eerste vertelde ik jou niet wat te doen, gaf alleen wat advies; ten
> tweede, ass betekent achterwerk, wat heel wat zachter klinkt dan de
> vulgaire taal op deze NG waar van ik jou nooit iets heb horen zeggen;
> ten derde beantwoorde ik een post die in het Engels was. Oh ja, en ten
> vierde: go fly a kite.


Je vergat, in a thunderstorm.

> -Mr. Noise Guy
> Orangevale, California, U.S.A.
>



 
Oud 22 oktober 2006, 14:15   #8
Steven
 
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Standaard Re: Europe Learns the Wrong Lessons

Mr. Noise Guy wrote:

> bola wrote:
>> Not a pleasant read for some of you maybe, but interesting.
>>
>> == begin quote ==
>>
>> Nearly one third of Germans under 30 say that the U.S. government
>> ordered the 9/11 attacks. In France, a book insisting that Americans
>> carried out the assault themselves to increase defense budgets becomes a
>> huge bestseller. In Britain, major newspapers carry headlines like "The
>> USA is Now the World's Leading Rogue State."
>>
>> Asked which countries are the biggest threat to world peace, Europeans
>> name the U.S as often as North Korea and Iran (each are picked by 53
>> percent). Countries characterized by Euros as less menacing than the
>> U.S. include Syria, Iraq, Russia, China, Afghanistan, Libya. As one
>> American living in Britain, Anglican minister Dwight Longenecker,
>> summarizes: "Our cultural ancestors have become unrecognizable, even
>> hostile, to us."
>>
>> == end quote ==
>>
>> http://www.taemag.com/issues/article...cle_detail.asp

>
> When will Europe wake up and recognize that the muslims are the
> greatest threat to world peace?


Flikker toch op haatzaaier. When will Americans wake and realize that
Bush is they are the greatest threat to world peace?

--
Steven

 
Oud 22 oktober 2006, 14:35   #9
Steven
 
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Steven wrote:

> Mr. Noise Guy wrote:
>
>> bola wrote:
>>> Not a pleasant read for some of you maybe, but interesting.
>>>
>>> == begin quote ==
>>>
>>> Nearly one third of Germans under 30 say that the U.S. government
>>> ordered the 9/11 attacks. In France, a book insisting that Americans
>>> carried out the assault themselves to increase defense budgets becomes a
>>> huge bestseller. In Britain, major newspapers carry headlines like "The
>>> USA is Now the World's Leading Rogue State."
>>>
>>> Asked which countries are the biggest threat to world peace, Europeans
>>> name the U.S as often as North Korea and Iran (each are picked by 53
>>> percent). Countries characterized by Euros as less menacing than the
>>> U.S. include Syria, Iraq, Russia, China, Afghanistan, Libya. As one
>>> American living in Britain, Anglican minister Dwight Longenecker,
>>> summarizes: "Our cultural ancestors have become unrecognizable, even
>>> hostile, to us."
>>>
>>> == end quote ==
>>>
>>> http://www.taemag.com/issues/article...cle_detail.asp

>> When will Europe wake up and recognize that the muslims are the
>> greatest threat to world peace?

>
> Flikker toch op haatzaaier. When will Americans wake and realize that
> Bush is they are the greatest threat to world peace?


Dat moet zijn:

When will Americans wake and realize that Bush is the greatest threat to
world peace?

Sommige Amerikanen krijgen nog het voordeel van de twijfel.

--
Steven

 
Oud 22 oktober 2006, 14:35   #10
Steven
 
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Steven wrote:

> Steven wrote:
>
>> Mr. Noise Guy wrote:
>>
>>> bola wrote:
>>>> Not a pleasant read for some of you maybe, but interesting.
>>>>
>>>> == begin quote ==
>>>>
>>>> Nearly one third of Germans under 30 say that the U.S. government
>>>> ordered the 9/11 attacks. In France, a book insisting that Americans
>>>> carried out the assault themselves to increase defense budgets becomes a
>>>> huge bestseller. In Britain, major newspapers carry headlines like "The
>>>> USA is Now the World's Leading Rogue State."
>>>>
>>>> Asked which countries are the biggest threat to world peace, Europeans
>>>> name the U.S as often as North Korea and Iran (each are picked by 53
>>>> percent). Countries characterized by Euros as less menacing than the
>>>> U.S. include Syria, Iraq, Russia, China, Afghanistan, Libya. As one
>>>> American living in Britain, Anglican minister Dwight Longenecker,
>>>> summarizes: "Our cultural ancestors have become unrecognizable, even
>>>> hostile, to us."
>>>>
>>>> == end quote ==
>>>>
>>>> http://www.taemag.com/issues/article...cle_detail.asp
>>> When will Europe wake up and recognize that the muslims are the
>>> greatest threat to world peace?

>> Flikker toch op haatzaaier. When will Americans wake and realize that
>> Bush is they are the greatest threat to world peace?

>
> Dat moet zijn:
>
> When will Americans wake and realize that Bush is the greatest threat to
> world peace?
>
> Sommige Amerikanen krijgen nog het voordeel van de twijfel.


And you're not one of them.

--
Steven

 
Oud 22 oktober 2006, 14:45   #11
Hans
 
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Standaard Re: Europe Learns the Wrong Lessons

On Sat, 21 Oct 2006 23:27:37 +0200, bola <[email protected]>
wrote:

>Not a pleasant read for some of you maybe, but interesting.
>
>== begin quote ==
>
>Nearly one third of Germans under 30 say that the U.S. government
>ordered the 9/11 attacks. In France, a book insisting that Americans
>carried out the assault themselves to increase defense budgets becomes a
>huge bestseller.


Demonstreert alleen maar de domheid van het volk, en de mate waarin
zij door linkse knuffelaars (beter moslim dan dood) gehersenspoeld
zijn.
Geen enkele wetenschappelijke waarde en niet door feiten onderbouwd.
Uitsluitend sentimenten...

 
Oud 22 oktober 2006, 15:55   #12
De Joker ©
 
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Standaard Re: Europe Learns the Wrong Lessons

Steven wrote:
> Steven wrote:
>> Steven wrote:


...
>>> Flikker toch op haatzaaier. When will Americans wake and realize
>>> that Bush is they are the greatest threat to world peace?

>>
>> Dat moet zijn:
>>
>> When will Americans wake and realize that Bush is the greatest
>> threat to world peace?
>>
>> Sommige Amerikanen krijgen nog het voordeel van de twijfel.

>
> And you're not one of them.


Fijn met jezelf aan het praten, Steven?

(J)

 
Oud 22 oktober 2006, 16:05   #13
Steven
 
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De Joker © wrote:

---8<---

> Fijn met jezelf aan het praten, Steven?


Ik heb het tegen die lawaaigast.

--
Steven

 
Oud 23 oktober 2006, 01:05   #14
Mr. Noise Guy
 
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[email protected] wrote:
> Mr. Noise Guy wrote:
>
> > When will Europe wake up and recognize that the muslims are the
> > greatest threat to world peace? And when will they do something about
> > that threat, other than complaining? Europe is right now playing into
> > the hands of the muslims, by opening its gates, welcoming the enemy
> > with open arms, and let them have their way. Pull your combined heads
> > out of your asses and face reality before it's too late (if it isn't

>
> First of all, just because you are American doesn't mean that you can
> tell us what to do. Secondly, there is no need to use such foul
> language,


Hey viu, if you want to hear foul language, try Euker Voorn's post of
October 22, 2006, subject: Yew Betcha. This is his comment (partly in
"de Nederlandse voertaal"):

Zeg Neus,

Is dat nou lekker, dat gerag in je reet?

Euker
--
Fuck your daughter, her sister, and her mother, who's next?"

Now tell me, which is worse, my "foul language" (asses) or Euker's?
Waarom zeg jij daar niets over? Omdat hij misschien geen Amerikaan is?
Niet misschien....een zekerheid.

-Mr. Noise Guy
Orangevale, California, U.S.A.

 
Oud 23 oktober 2006, 02:45   #15
Cat B.
 
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Mr. Noise Guy wrote:

> [email protected] wrote:
> > Mr. Noise Guy wrote:
> >
> > > When will Europe wake up and recognize that the muslims are the
> > > greatest threat to world peace? And when will they do something about
> > > that threat, other than complaining? Europe is right now playing into
> > > the hands of the muslims, by opening its gates, welcoming the enemy
> > > with open arms, and let them have their way. Pull your combined heads
> > > out of your asses and face reality before it's too late (if it isn't

> >
> > First of all, just because you are American doesn't mean that you can
> > tell us what to do. Secondly, there is no need to use such foul
> > language,

>
> Hey viu, if you want to hear foul language, try Euker Voorn's post of
> October 22, 2006, subject: Yew Betcha. This is his comment (partly in
> "de Nederlandse voertaal"):


Ach gut. Ga bij de FCC werken.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4l4fNm4QReY
 
Oud 23 oktober 2006, 05:15   #16
 
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Mr. Noise Guy wrote:
> [email protected] wrote:
> > Mr. Noise Guy wrote:
> >
> > > When will Europe wake up and recognize that the muslims are the
> > > greatest threat to world peace? And when will they do something about
> > > that threat, other than complaining? Europe is right now playing into
> > > the hands of the muslims, by opening its gates, welcoming the enemy
> > > with open arms, and let them have their way. Pull your combined heads
> > > out of your asses and face reality before it's too late (if it isn't

> >
> > First of all, just because you are American doesn't mean that you can
> > tell us what to do. Secondly, there is no need to use such foul
> > language,

>
> Hey viu, if you want to hear foul language, try Euker Voorn's post of
> October 22, 2006, subject: Yew Betcha. This is his comment (partly in
> "de Nederlandse voertaal"):
>
> Zeg Neus,
>
> Is dat nou lekker, dat gerag in je reet?
>
> Euker
> --
> Fuck your daughter, her sister, and her mother, who's next?"
>
> Now tell me, which is worse, my "foul language" (asses) or Euker's?
> Waarom zeg jij daar niets over? Omdat hij misschien geen Amerikaan is?
> Niet misschien....een zekerheid.
>


Dat klopt inderdaad.

Maar stel je eens voor dat ik als Hollander op een Amerikaans
discussieforum iets in de trant van "You yankees, pull your heads out
of your asses" zeg. Denk je dan dat dat op prijs zal worden gesteld? Ik
denk het niet.

 
Oud 23 oktober 2006, 05:35   #17
Mr. Noise Guy
 
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[email protected] wrote:
> Mr. Noise Guy wrote:
> > [email protected] wrote:
> > > Mr. Noise Guy wrote:
> > >
> > > > When will Europe wake up and recognize that the muslims are the
> > > > greatest threat to world peace? And when will they do something about
> > > > that threat, other than complaining? Europe is right now playing into
> > > > the hands of the muslims, by opening its gates, welcoming the enemy
> > > > with open arms, and let them have their way. Pull your combined heads
> > > > out of your asses and face reality before it's too late (if it isn't
> > >
> > > First of all, just because you are American doesn't mean that you can
> > > tell us what to do. Secondly, there is no need to use such foul
> > > language,

> >
> > Hey viu, if you want to hear foul language, try Euker Voorn's post of
> > October 22, 2006, subject: Yew Betcha. This is his comment (partly in
> > "de Nederlandse voertaal"):
> >
> > Zeg Neus,
> >
> > Is dat nou lekker, dat gerag in je reet?
> >
> > Euker
> > --
> > Fuck your daughter, her sister, and her mother, who's next?"
> >
> > Now tell me, which is worse, my "foul language" (asses) or Euker's?
> > Waarom zeg jij daar niets over? Omdat hij misschien geen Amerikaan is?
> > Niet misschien....een zekerheid.
> >

>
> Dat klopt inderdaad.
>
> Maar stel je eens voor dat ik als Hollander op een Amerikaans
> discussieforum iets in de trant van "You yankees, pull your heads out
> of your asses" zeg. Denk je dan dat dat op prijs zal worden gesteld? Ik
> denk het niet.


Moet je maar eens kijken op bv us.politics en soc.culture.usa
newsgroups en zie wat daar niet wordt "gedicussieerd", met veel
"bijdragen" van buitenlanders die niet zo beleefd zijn.

-Mr. Noise Guy
Orangevale, California, U.S.A.

 
 



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