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Oud 1 september 2005, 13:04   #2261
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Hoe kun je nou zo stom zijn om te geloven dat de mens sterker is dan de aarde, de natuurkrachten die hier op aarde huishouden? Dat is hetzelfde als denken dat de zon om de aarde heen draait. "Kijk maar: 's morgens komt hij links op en 's avonds gaat hij rechts onder".








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Oud 1 september 2005, 13:07   #2262
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Het is te zien in de film: dark Secrets inside Bohemian Grove.
Joepie! Nog meer fantasie..
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Hoe weet jij dat?
Antwoord, heel stoer: gezien in de film

Stomme film zeker?
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Jij beweert dat ik niet weet waarover ik het heb. Ik beweer, dat ik dat zeer zeker wel weet. Een openingsceremonie als een deze is toch vrij normaal? Afgezien van de immense grootsheid waarmee het gedaan wordt, wellicht. Zelf doe ik het ook, als ik de kans krijg. Show & rituelen. De kerk heeft het ook duizenden jaren gedaan. Niks satanistisch aan, in dit geval. Wel humoristisch. Beetje Monty Python-gehalte.
Kijk eens naar de film... dan zul je zien hoe" Monthy Python achtig" het is...
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Ik bedoel:
Hoe kun je nou zo stom zijn om te geloven dat de mens sterker is dan de aarde, de natuurkrachten die hier op aarde huishouden? Dat is hetzelfde als denken dat de zon om de aarde heen draait. "Kijk maar: 's morgens komt hij links op en 's avonds gaat hij rechts onder".
Wat voor een scheefgetrokken redenering is dit. Als ze het kunnen met technologie kunnen ze het hé. Punt aan de lijn.

Iemand die als jou redeneert zou 60 jaar geleden ook niet gelooft hebben dat atoombommen kunnen bestaan. Of dat genetische manipulatie kan bestaan.
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Oud 1 september 2005, 13:20   #2265
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Memphisto,

Zo te zien ben je aan het stuiptrekken.
De vraag is nu, durf je het muurtje waar je tegenaanloopt te verwijderen?


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Memphisto,

Zo te zien ben je aan het stuiptrekken.
De vraag is nu, durf je het muurtje waar je tegenaanloopt te verwijderen?


met vriendelijke groeten


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Memphisto,

Zo te zien ben je aan het stuiptrekken.
De vraag is nuurf je het muurtje waar je tegenaanloopt te verwijderen?


met vriendelijke groeten


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Voor je whaaaah gaat roepen bleeeeeeiiiiihhhh zou het misschien wwoooeeehaaaa raadzaam zijn om fwieeeeeeet eens te checken waar je peeeeuuuuttttt zogenaamde nieuwsbron ahoeeeeee vandaan komt.

The spoof (www.thespoof.com) is een satirisch internetbladje dat vooral de bedoeling heeft om te lachen, niet om "de waarheid" te vertellen:

http://www.thespoof.com/about/index.cfm

Het ziet er dus naar uit twwwwiieeeek dat jij, Pindar, beter eens een brooeeeeeem "break TO the reality of existence" nodig hebt.

Tot zover dus Pindar en zijn bronnenmateriaal. Moest er nog meer zand zijn? This concludes my contribution.
Fantastisch..
En was het niet zo, dat de Bohemian Grove opent met een ritueel dat precies dát in petto heeft? "break TO the reality of existence"? Of: een pauze in de ondraaglijke saaiheid van het bestaan?
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Jij beweert dat ik niet weet waarover ik het heb. Ik beweer, dat ik dat zeer zeker wel weet. Een openingsceremonie als een deze is toch vrij normaal? Afgezien van de immense grootsheid waarmee het gedaan wordt, wellicht. Zelf doe ik het ook, als ik de kans krijg. Show & rituelen. De kerk heeft het ook duizenden jaren gedaan. Niks satanistisch aan, in dit geval. Wel humoristisch. Beetje Monty Python-gehalte.
Ziehier hoe "leuk" het eraan toegaat in de Bohemian Grove. Onderstaande tekst is een stuk uit het interview dat ik daarnet gepost heb. John Decamp leest voor uit het dagboek van een jongen dat in de Bohemian Grove verkracht is. Monthy Python zou ik het niet noemen , eerder een snuff film (en dit is de elite die dit doet, Larry King een van de maatjes van papa Bush. Bush deed ook mee aan dit soort van "feestjes"):

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JD: I went in January, now this is Bonacci, this is Paul Bonacci writing this. This is directly word-for-word from his diary.
"I went in January of ‘84 on every trip. I was paid by men King knew for sex. The summer of ‘84 sometime I went to Dallas, Texas and had sex with several men King knew in a hotel. I flew on YNR airlines (by the way that’s a private airline or a private charter deal) and Cam airlines (another private charter deal) normally for King. I never had much personally to do with King only went where he told me to go.
“In or on July 26th, I went to Sacramento, CA. King flew me out on a private plane from an airfield in Omaha to Denver where we picked up Nicholas. A boy who was about 12 or 13, then we flew to Vegas to a desert strip and drove into Las Vegas to some ranch and got something. Then flew on to Sacramento. We were picked up by a white limo and taken to a hotel. I don't remember the name of it. We, meaning Nicholas and I, were driven to an area that had big, big trees. It took about an hour to get there. There was a cage with a boy in it who was not wearing anything. Nicholas and I were given these Tarzan things to put around us and some stuff like that. They told me to, (I won't use the word) blank the boy and stuff. (In other words have sex with him.) At first I said no and they held a gun to my genitals (I'll use that word) and said do it or else lose them or something like that. I began doing it to the boy and stuff. And Nicholas had anal sex and stuff. We were told to blank him and stuff and beat on him. I didn't try to hurt him.
“We were told to put our blanks in his mouth and stuff and sit on the boy’s blank and stuff and they filmed it. We did this stuff to the boy for about 30 minutes or an hour when a man came in and kicked us and stuff in the genitals. And picked us up and threw us. He grabbed the boy and started blanking him and stuff. The man was about (I'm not sure how to say this) the man was about so many inches long and the boy screamed and stuff. The man was forcing his blank into the boy all the way. The boy was bleeding from his rectum and the men tossed me and him and stuff and put the boy right next to me and grabbed a gun and blew the boy's head off. The boy's blood was all over me and I started yelling and crying and the men grabbed Nicholas and I and forced us to lie down. They put the boy on top of Nicholas who was crying and they were putting Nicholas's hands on the boy’s blank. They put the boy on top of me and did the same thing. They then forced me to blank the dead boy. (It gets pretty crude.) They put a gun to our heads to make us do it. His blood was all over us. They made us kiss the boy’s lips. (Anyway, a few other things.) Then they made me do something I don't even want to write so I won't.
“After that the men grabbed Nicholas and drug him off screaming. They put me up against a tree and put a gun to my head but fired into the air. I heard another shot from somewhere and then saw the man who killed the boy drag him like a toy. Everything including when the men put the boy in the trunk was filmed. The men took me with them and we went up in a plane. I saw the bag the boy was in. We went over a very thick brush area with a clearing in it. Over the clearing they dropped the boy. One said the men with the hoods would take care of the body for them.
“I didn't see Nicholas until that night at the hotel. He and I hugged and held each other for a long while. About 2 hours later the men or Larry King came in and told us to go take a shower since we'd had only been hosed off at some guy’s house. We took a shower together and then were told to put on the Tarzan things. And after we were cleaned up and dressed in these things we were told to put on shorts, socks and a shirt and shoes and were driven to a house where the men were at some others. They had the film and they played it. As the men watched it they passed Nicholas and I around as if we were toys…”
AJ: Stay right there. This is the New World Order – what they want to do to your kids.
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Jij beweert dat ik niet weet waarover ik het heb. Ik beweer, dat ik dat zeer zeker wel weet. Een openingsceremonie als een deze is toch vrij normaal? Afgezien van de immense grootsheid waarmee het gedaan wordt, wellicht. Zelf doe ik het ook, als ik de kans krijg. Show & rituelen. De kerk heeft het ook duizenden jaren gedaan. Niks satanistisch aan, in dit geval. Wel humoristisch. Beetje Monty Python-gehalte.
Ziehier hoe "leuk" het eraan toegaat in de Bohemian Grove. Onderstaande tekst is een stuk uit het interview dat ik daarnet gepost heb. John Decamp leest voor uit het dagboek van een jongen dat in de Bohemian Grove verkracht is. Monthy Python zou ik het niet noemen , eerder een snuff film (en dit is de elite die dit doet, Larry King een van de maatjes van papa Bush. Bush deed ook mee aan dit soort van "feestjes"):

Citaat:
JD: I went in January, now this is Bonacci, this is Paul Bonacci writing this. This is directly word-for-word from his diary.
"I went in January of ‘84 on every trip. I was paid by men King knew for sex. The summer of ‘84 sometime I went to Dallas, Texas and had sex with several men King knew in a hotel. I flew on YNR airlines (by the way that’s a private airline or a private charter deal) and Cam airlines (another private charter deal) normally for King. I never had much personally to do with King only went where he told me to go.
“In or on July 26th, I went to Sacramento, CA. King flew me out on a private plane from an airfield in Omaha to Denver where we picked up Nicholas. A boy who was about 12 or 13, then we flew to Vegas to a desert strip and drove into Las Vegas to some ranch and got something. Then flew on to Sacramento. We were picked up by a white limo and taken to a hotel. I don't remember the name of it. We, meaning Nicholas and I, were driven to an area that had big, big trees. It took about an hour to get there. There was a cage with a boy in it who was not wearing anything. Nicholas and I were given these Tarzan things to put around us and some stuff like that. They told me to, (I won't use the word) blank the boy and stuff. (In other words have sex with him.) At first I said no and they held a gun to my genitals (I'll use that word) and said do it or else lose them or something like that. I began doing it to the boy and stuff. And Nicholas had anal sex and stuff. We were told to blank him and stuff and beat on him. I didn't try to hurt him.
“We were told to put our blanks in his mouth and stuff and sit on the boy’s blank and stuff and they filmed it. We did this stuff to the boy for about 30 minutes or an hour when a man came in and kicked us and stuff in the genitals. And picked us up and threw us. He grabbed the boy and started blanking him and stuff. The man was about (I'm not sure how to say this) the man was about so many inches long and the boy screamed and stuff. The man was forcing his blank into the boy all the way. The boy was bleeding from his rectum and the men tossed me and him and stuff and put the boy right next to me and grabbed a gun and blew the boy's head off. The boy's blood was all over me and I started yelling and crying and the men grabbed Nicholas and I and forced us to lie down. They put the boy on top of Nicholas who was crying and they were putting Nicholas's hands on the boy’s blank. They put the boy on top of me and did the same thing. They then forced me to blank the dead boy. (It gets pretty crude.) They put a gun to our heads to make us do it. His blood was all over us. They made us kiss the boy’s lips. (Anyway, a few other things.) Then they made me do something I don't even want to write so I won't.
“After that the men grabbed Nicholas and drug him off screaming. They put me up against a tree and put a gun to my head but fired into the air. I heard another shot from somewhere and then saw the man who killed the boy drag him like a toy. Everything including when the men put the boy in the trunk was filmed. The men took me with them and we went up in a plane. I saw the bag the boy was in. We went over a very thick brush area with a clearing in it. Over the clearing they dropped the boy. One said the men with the hoods would take care of the body for them.
“I didn't see Nicholas until that night at the hotel. He and I hugged and held each other for a long while. About 2 hours later the men or Larry King came in and told us to go take a shower since we'd had only been hosed off at some guy’s house. We took a shower together and then were told to put on the Tarzan things. And after we were cleaned up and dressed in these things we were told to put on shorts, socks and a shirt and shoes and were driven to a house where the men were at some others. They had the film and they played it. As the men watched it they passed Nicholas and I around as if we were toys…”
AJ: Stay right there. This is the New World Order – what they want to do to your kids.
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Citaat:
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Jij beweert dat ik niet weet waarover ik het heb. Ik beweer, dat ik dat zeer zeker wel weet. Een openingsceremonie als een deze is toch vrij normaal? Afgezien van de immense grootsheid waarmee het gedaan wordt, wellicht. Zelf doe ik het ook, als ik de kans krijg. Show & rituelen. De kerk heeft het ook duizenden jaren gedaan. Niks satanistisch aan, in dit geval. Wel humoristisch. Beetje Monty Python-gehalte.
Ziehier hoe "leuk" het eraan toegaat in de Bohemian Grove. Onderstaande tekst is een stuk uit het interview dat ik daarnet gepost heb. John Decamp leest voor uit het dagboek van een jongen dat in de Bohemian Grove verkracht is. Monthy Python zou ik het niet noemen , eerder een snuff film (en dit is de elite die dit doet, Larry King een van de maatjes van papa Bush, die ook meedeed aan dit soort van "feestjes"):

Citaat:
JD: I went in January, now this is Bonacci, this is Paul Bonacci writing this. This is directly word-for-word from his diary.
"I went in January of ‘84 on every trip. I was paid by men King knew for sex. The summer of ‘84 sometime I went to Dallas, Texas and had sex with several men King knew in a hotel. I flew on YNR airlines (by the way that’s a private airline or a private charter deal) and Cam airlines (another private charter deal) normally for King. I never had much personally to do with King only went where he told me to go.
“In or on July 26th, I went to Sacramento, CA. King flew me out on a private plane from an airfield in Omaha to Denver where we picked up Nicholas. A boy who was about 12 or 13, then we flew to Vegas to a desert strip and drove into Las Vegas to some ranch and got something. Then flew on to Sacramento. We were picked up by a white limo and taken to a hotel. I don't remember the name of it. We, meaning Nicholas and I, were driven to an area that had big, big trees. It took about an hour to get there. There was a cage with a boy in it who was not wearing anything. Nicholas and I were given these Tarzan things to put around us and some stuff like that. They told me to, (I won't use the word) blank the boy and stuff. (In other words have sex with him.) At first I said no and they held a gun to my genitals (I'll use that word) and said do it or else lose them or something like that. I began doing it to the boy and stuff. And Nicholas had anal sex and stuff. We were told to blank him and stuff and beat on him. I didn't try to hurt him.
“We were told to put our blanks in his mouth and stuff and sit on the boy’s blank and stuff and they filmed it. We did this stuff to the boy for about 30 minutes or an hour when a man came in and kicked us and stuff in the genitals. And picked us up and threw us. He grabbed the boy and started blanking him and stuff. The man was about (I'm not sure how to say this) the man was about so many inches long and the boy screamed and stuff. The man was forcing his blank into the boy all the way. The boy was bleeding from his rectum and the men tossed me and him and stuff and put the boy right next to me and grabbed a gun and blew the boy's head off. The boy's blood was all over me and I started yelling and crying and the men grabbed Nicholas and I and forced us to lie down. They put the boy on top of Nicholas who was crying and they were putting Nicholas's hands on the boy’s blank. They put the boy on top of me and did the same thing. They then forced me to blank the dead boy. (It gets pretty crude.) They put a gun to our heads to make us do it. His blood was all over us. They made us kiss the boy’s lips. (Anyway, a few other things.) Then they made me do something I don't even want to write so I won't.
“After that the men grabbed Nicholas and drug him off screaming. They put me up against a tree and put a gun to my head but fired into the air. I heard another shot from somewhere and then saw the man who killed the boy drag him like a toy. Everything including when the men put the boy in the trunk was filmed. The men took me with them and we went up in a plane. I saw the bag the boy was in. We went over a very thick brush area with a clearing in it. Over the clearing they dropped the boy. One said the men with the hoods would take care of the body for them.
“I didn't see Nicholas until that night at the hotel. He and I hugged and held each other for a long while. About 2 hours later the men or Larry King came in and told us to go take a shower since we'd had only been hosed off at some guy’s house. We took a shower together and then were told to put on the Tarzan things. And after we were cleaned up and dressed in these things we were told to put on shorts, socks and a shirt and shoes and were driven to a house where the men were at some others. They had the film and they played it. As the men watched it they passed Nicholas and I around as if we were toys…”
AJ: Stay right there. This is the New World Order – what they want to do to your kids.
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OEF! Ik ben gerustgesteld. Alles is onder controle (van de NWO wel te verstaan).

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Ze beschikken over technologie die mijlenver ligt op wat er in het
publiek domein beschikbaar is. Zo lopen er al ongeveer 10 klonen rond van
Saddam Hoessein. En maar net doen of ze het aan het ontwikkelen zijn!

Er zijn eigenlijk twee werelden. De wereld die gecreerd is door de door de elite gestuurde educatie,media, etc. (deze vormen de zogenaamde 'matrix')
Deze is bedoeld voor het vee (dat zijn wij dus, de burgers)
en de wereld zoals een en ander echt is, en zoveel mogelijk door de illuminati
verborgen gehouden wil worden voor het vee.
Maar in deze tijd zal steeds meer wat verborgen is , ont-dekt worden.
In deze periode zal als er genoeg mensen wakker worden het 'spel' ophouden.
Eigenlijk is deze planeet door de elite gekaapt, en wij, het vee, gaan het nu terugeisen!


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Jij had vroeger geboren moeten worden. Ergens voor de Russische of de Franse Revolutie ofzo. Hence: Power to the People!
Helaas zal er een moment komen waarin je zelf zal zien dat het klopt. ;(
Hoewel ik persoonlijk hoop dat dat moment er niet gaan komen
doordat genoeg mensen het inzien.
Jij zal dan waarschijnlijk een van de mensen zijn die zal zeggen, zie je
wel, niks aan de hand. Maar je vergeet dan dat er anderen voor je gevochten
hebben.

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sublinale ? is dat de overtreffende trap van subliem ?
of een samenvoeging van subliem en nog wat ?
subliem [b]anaal, waarschijnlijk..
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Ogen sluiten graag!!!!



"Just recently, when I decided to write some articles on psychiatry, I accidentally stumbled upon the story of Wayne Morin Jr. I was searching through the "wayback machine", where you can find websites that are no longer on the regular Internet. For you who don't know, it is an archive of old websites that have been taken off the Internet for one reason or another. I figured that there must be at least a few good websites that were taken down due to threats from the forces they intended to expose, and I wanted to find those as they certainly must have had some good information.
That's where I found the story of Wayne Morin Jr., written by himself. After had read it, I decided to use it as my first article on psychiatry. Wayne's case is so typical, just because he was never heard, never believed, and his website is no longer on the Internet, although it should be highlighted as one of the most important websites out there, if there would be any justice in this world.

Mind control. The controversy of what is and what is not mind control rages on among scholars in the schools of law, human rights and mental health. An accepted definition is: "psychological manipulation, thought reform and/or mind manipulation which results in a form of behavior modification."

A close scrutiny by the media and public, of one of the biggest destructive "Murder Industry Cults" is "Murderers of the Mind: The Awful Truth About Psychology, Psychiatry, and the Mental "Health" Industry", published by "Citizens Commission on Human Rights International". It details an epidemic involving physical and psychological abuses, supplies and in-depth professional investigation and would provide the first steps in resolving the rash of problems that destructive cults, serial killers, sexual child abusers, thrust upon society. Citizens Commission on Human Rights International (or CCHR for short) is run by the Church of Scientology, whose doctrine I am not subscribing to, because the Church has their own reason and agenda on exposing psychiatry, but that fact does not nullify their extremely thorough investigation into the subject of psychiatry. Scientology's research in this field is very accurate and backed up with evidence.

As consumers of national news media supplied information, we continued to accept half-truths, which, in this case scenario, is seeing and hearing only what results form mass mind manipulation. The Churches in America are the biggest power base for Mental Health Industry. Secret Knowledge equals power, with the result being control.

After have researched the field of psychiatry pretty thoroughly, the following story rings very true. Let me share it with you.

When Wayne Morin Jr. wrote his article for the Internet, he had been locked up since 1987 in a mental hospital for calling in a fake bomb threat and leaving an egg timer in a grocery store. He also called the grocery store and told them he placed the fake bomb and gave his name, home address and phone number. Wayne was at the time he wrote the article a devoted Christian and said he was facing daily persecution as a Christian and a political prisoner. He has been in many magazines, such as Media Bypass; Spotlight; Truth At Last; Cutting Edge Newsletter, and he has also done a number of radio talk shows.

His first admission at Napa State Hospital was when he was 12 years old, in 1971. He has had 115 admissions at Napa State Hospital (NSH) since that time, but all were civil commitments. He explains that his mother, brother, and sister have all sat around and used marijuana together with his psyche-tech on a weekend pass. While still accommodated at NSH, at the ages of 13-16, he was taken to his psyche-tech's home in Fairfield, where he used marijuana and Dexedrine, all on weekend passes. There was another time at NSH when a psyche-tech "fell in love" with him and they had sex, and he was given Ritalin in injection form.

The Napa Sentinel, a local newspaper, has full knowledge of NSH past and up-to-date rampant sex abuses and drug use. There was a time in the 1980's when most of all the psyche staff at NSH used marijuana and smoked it with the clients there, according to Wayne. This was during the height of "America's Drug War", and when a person could use drug (ab)use as a mental illness and furthermore get paid by SSI for being mentally ill, at $700.00 a month.

During Wayne's 115 admissions as NSH he never had one single felony charge. His instant offense was committed in 1987, and he was sentenced only for three years. However, the State never wanted him released on "outpatient treatment". Why was that? Wayne explains:

"Just look at their jobs being on the line, and how the psychiatric staff know that the statutes of limitations never run out on murders and rape, which have occurred in this hospital. Knowledge is Power, they know this, so by keeping me inside the fence they maintain their immunity from outside investigation. It is a known fact that mental health staff as NSH use Gestapo-type tactics and invent symptoms without evidence in order to delay the discharge of patients(1).These doctors with Master's degrees can also be negligent and accessories to murders and other crimes, who do whatever it takes to cover up both intentional and unintentional mistakes, as if, in the old lunatic days of torture and mysterious deaths in the state hospitals seem to be protected from the law. The same people on patient's treatment team punish them for any disagreement, trying to defend themselves, and particularly frown on any complaint to Patient's Rights, if not a reason for retaliation due to their power and illusion of perfection being challenged; in a sense they are playing God with people's lives. Even if an individual staff member knows the claims against a patient are false they will side with their peers, acting as a fraternity of control, under the guise of hospital policy. This form of racket contradicts the entire concept of people with a diagnosed mental illness being treated and recovering for return to the community, especially for people as myself, who was drunk when committing a crime which was not that serious. Instead, we have psychiatrists and psychologists acting like prosecutors who in reality answer to nobody, and whose main remedy to alleged symptoms is to increase a patient's medication, do anything about their situation, so they give up trying to fight."

[size=2]Wayne is a Pastor and a political prisoner who should have been released to a group home years ago. He says he needs assistance from an organization to provide counsel and assistance for his legal release. He states that he has a lot of stories to tell about what is going on at NSH, and he would not hesitate taking a lie detector test. Not that he needs to, the evidence is overwhelming, and some of it is even in the mainstream media.[/size]




Updates:

August 8, 2005: Listen to Wayne Morin Jr. at "The 'X'Zone Radio Show", where is is interviewed by Rob McConnell. It is not possible to download the show directly from the website, but you can listen to it online by going here: http://www.xzone-radio.com/archives.htm. In your Internet Explorer browser, click on "Edit" in the menu bar on the top of the browser, and in the scroll-down menu that follows, click on "Find (on this page)", type in "Wayne Morin" (without quotation marks) and press ENTER. That will lead you to the right place. If you are using some other browser, use the HELP section to figure out how to do the same thing. The dates when he appeared on the radio show were July 25 and Aug 8, 2005.

Footnotes:

(1) This is very true, and I am aware of this from my own research. And worse than that; top psychiatrists are inventing new mental illnesses during their board meetings in order to get more resources and financial aid, and to push new or more drugs into the society. They literally VOTE by majority votes what will become a mental illness and what will not, without any scientific backup. However, behind all this hides a more vicious reason; the Illuminati want to declare most of the population mentally ill and have the new illnesses they invent recorded so that they can be used against the citizens when necessary, to lock people in. This is particularly convenient if they want to lock in people who oppose their New World Order. In the early 90's it was even mentioned in the mainstream media how psychiatrists wanted to declare "Pre-menstrual Symptoms" as a mental illness. "


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THE MICROCHIPPING THEY ARE PLANNING WILL ONCE AND FOR ALL KEEP US ON A LOW VIBRATION LEVEL; THEY ARE DESIGNED THAT WAY! This means that we can't develop spiritually and we remain stuck in the Illuminati's low vibration prison where pain, suffer and terror are the three main characteristics -

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Most published scientific research papers are wrong, according to a new analysis. Assuming that the new paper is itself correct, problems with experimental and statistical methods mean that there is less than a 50% chance that the results of any randomly chosen scientific paper are true.

John Ioannidis, an epidemiologist at the University of Ioannina School of Medicine in Greece, says that small sample sizes, poor study design, researcher bias, and selective reporting and other problems combine to make most research findings false. But even large, well-designed studies are not always right, meaning that scientists and the public have to be wary of reported findings.

"We should accept that most research findings will be refuted. Some will be replicated and validated. The replication process is more important than the first discovery," Ioannidis says.

In the paper, Ioannidis does not show that any particular findings are false. Instead, he shows statistically how the many obstacles to getting research findings right combine to make most published research wrong.

Massaged conclusions

Traditionally a study is said to be "statistically significant" if the odds are only 1 in 20 that the result could be pure chance. But in a complicated field where there are many potential hypotheses to sift through - such as whether a particular gene influences a particular disease - it is easy to reach false conclusions using this standard. If you test 20 false hypotheses, one of them is likely to show up as true, on average.

Odds get even worse for studies that are too small, studies that find small effects (for example, a drug that works for only 10% of patients), or studies where the protocol and endpoints are poorly defined, allowing researchers to massage their conclusions after the fact.

Surprisingly, Ioannidis says another predictor of false findings is if a field is "hot", with many teams feeling pressure to beat the others to statistically significant findings.

But Solomon Snyder, senior editor at the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences, and a neuroscientist at Johns Hopkins Medical School in Baltimore, US, says most working scientists understand the limitations of published research.

"When I read the literature, I'm not reading it to find proof like a textbook. I'm reading to get ideas. So even if something is wrong with the paper, if they have the kernel of a novel idea, that's something to think about," he says.

Journal reference: Public Library of Science Medicine (DOI: 10.1371/journal.pmed.0020124)

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Most published scientific research papers are wrong, according to a new analysis. Assuming that the new paper is itself correct, problems with experimental and statistical methods mean that there is less than a 50% chance that the results of any randomly chosen scientific paper are true.

John Ioannidis, an epidemiologist at the University of Ioannina School of Medicine in Greece, says that small sample sizes, poor study design, researcher bias, and selective reporting and other problems combine to make most research findings false. But even large, well-designed studies are not always right, meaning that scientists and the public have to be wary of reported findings.

"We should accept that most research findings will be refuted. Some will be replicated and validated. The replication process is more important than the first discovery," Ioannidis says.

In the paper, Ioannidis does not show that any particular findings are false. Instead, he shows statistically how the many obstacles to getting research findings right combine to make most published research wrong.

Massaged conclusions

Traditionally a study is said to be "statistically significant" if the odds are only 1 in 20 that the result could be pure chance. But in a complicated field where there are many potential hypotheses to sift through - such as whether a particular gene influences a particular disease - it is easy to reach false conclusions using this standard. If you test 20 false hypotheses, one of them is likely to show up as true, on average.

Odds get even worse for studies that are too small, studies that find small effects (for example, a drug that works for only 10% of patients), or studies where the protocol and endpoints are poorly defined, allowing researchers to massage their conclusions after the fact.

Surprisingly, Ioannidis says another predictor of false findings is if a field is "hot", with many teams feeling pressure to beat the others to statistically significant findings.

But Solomon Snyder, senior editor at the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences, and a neuroscientist at Johns Hopkins Medical School in Baltimore, US, says most working scientists understand the limitations of published research.

"When I read the literature, I'm not reading it to find proof like a textbook. I'm reading to get ideas. So even if something is wrong with the paper, if they have the kernel of a novel idea, that's something to think about," he says.

Journal reference: Public Library of Science Medicine (DOI: 10.1371/journal.pmed.0020124)

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Most published scientific research papers are wrong, according to a new analysis. Assuming that the new paper is itself correct, problems with experimental and statistical methods mean that there is less than a 50% chance that the results of any randomly chosen scientific paper are true.

John Ioannidis, an epidemiologist at the University of Ioannina School of Medicine in Greece, says that small sample sizes, poor study design, researcher bias, and selective reporting and other problems combine to make most research findings false. But even large, well-designed studies are not always right, meaning that scientists and the public have to be wary of reported findings.

"We should accept that most research findings will be refuted. Some will be replicated and validated. The replication process is more important than the first discovery," Ioannidis says.

In the paper, Ioannidis does not show that any particular findings are false. Instead, he shows statistically how the many obstacles to getting research findings right combine to make most published research wrong.

Massaged conclusions

Traditionally a study is said to be "statistically significant" if the odds are only 1 in 20 that the result could be pure chance. But in a complicated field where there are many potential hypotheses to sift through - such as whether a particular gene influences a particular disease - it is easy to reach false conclusions using this standard. If you test 20 false hypotheses, one of them is likely to show up as true, on average.

Odds get even worse for studies that are too small, studies that find small effects (for example, a drug that works for only 10% of patients), or studies where the protocol and endpoints are poorly defined, allowing researchers to massage their conclusions after the fact.

Surprisingly, Ioannidis says another predictor of false findings is if a field is "hot", with many teams feeling pressure to beat the others to statistically significant findings.

But Solomon Snyder, senior editor at the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences, and a neuroscientist at Johns Hopkins Medical School in Baltimore, US, says most working scientists understand the limitations of published research.

"When I read the literature, I'm not reading it to find proof like a textbook. I'm reading to get ideas. So even if something is wrong with the paper, if they have the kernel of a novel idea, that's something to think about," he says.

Journal reference: Public Library of Science Medicine (DOI: 10.1371/journal.pmed.0020124)

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[size=2]I strongly advise you to check out his website, as there are some very interesting links, especially on the right side. I will link those articles separately here below, and if Mr. Smith's website is ever going down for any reason, please e-mail me and I will send you the articles, which I have saved to a safe location.[/size]

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[size=2]I strongly advise you to check out his website, as there are some very interesting links, especially on the right side. I will link those articles separately here below, and if Mr. Smith's website is ever going down for any reason, please e-mail me and I will send you the articles, which I have saved to a safe location.[/size]

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[size=2]I strongly advise you to check out his website, as there are some very interesting links, especially on the right side. I will link those articles separately here below, and if Mr. Smith's website is ever going down for any reason, please e-mail me and I will send you the articles, which I have saved to a safe location.[/size]

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Most published scientific research papers are wrong, according to a new analysis. Assuming that the new paper is itself correct, problems with experimental and statistical methods mean that there is less than a 50% chance that the results of any randomly chosen scientific paper are true.

John Ioannidis, an epidemiologist at the University of Ioannina School of Medicine in Greece, says that small sample sizes, poor study design, researcher bias, and selective reporting and other problems combine to make most research findings false. But even large, well-designed studies are not always right, meaning that scientists and the public have to be wary of reported findings.

"We should accept that most research findings will be refuted. Some will be replicated and validated. The replication process is more important than the first discovery," Ioannidis says.

In the paper, Ioannidis does not show that any particular findings are false. Instead, he shows statistically how the many obstacles to getting research findings right combine to make most published research wrong.

Massaged conclusions

Traditionally a study is said to be "statistically significant" if the odds are only 1 in 20 that the result could be pure chance. But in a complicated field where there are many potential hypotheses to sift through - such as whether a particular gene influences a particular disease - it is easy to reach false conclusions using this standard. If you test 20 false hypotheses, one of them is likely to show up as true, on average.

Odds get even worse for studies that are too small, studies that find small effects (for example, a drug that works for only 10% of patients), or studies where the protocol and endpoints are poorly defined, allowing researchers to massage their conclusions after the fact.

Surprisingly, Ioannidis says another predictor of false findings is if a field is "hot", with many teams feeling pressure to beat the others to statistically significant findings.

But Solomon Snyder, senior editor at the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences, and a neuroscientist at Johns Hopkins Medical School in Baltimore, US, says most working scientists understand the limitations of published research.

"When I read the literature, I'm not reading it to find proof like a textbook. I'm reading to get ideas. So even if something is wrong with the paper, if they have the kernel of a novel idea, that's something to think about," he says.

Journal reference: Public Library of Science Medicine (DOI: 10.1371/journal.pmed.0020124)

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John Ioannidis, an epidemiologist at the University of Ioannina School of Medicine in Greece, says that small sample sizes, poor study design, researcher bias, and selective reporting and other problems combine to make most research findings false. But even large, well-designed studies are not always right, meaning that scientists and the public have to be wary of reported findings.

"We should accept that most research findings will be refuted. Some will be replicated and validated. The replication process is more important than the first discovery," Ioannidis says.

In the paper, Ioannidis does not show that any particular findings are false. Instead, he shows statistically how the many obstacles to getting research findings right combine to make most published research wrong.

Massaged conclusions

Traditionally a study is said to be "statistically significant" if the odds are only 1 in 20 that the result could be pure chance. But in a complicated field where there are many potential hypotheses to sift through - such as whether a particular gene influences a particular disease - it is easy to reach false conclusions using this standard. If you test 20 false hypotheses, one of them is likely to show up as true, on average.

Odds get even worse for studies that are too small, studies that find small effects (for example, a drug that works for only 10% of patients), or studies where the protocol and endpoints are poorly defined, allowing researchers to massage their conclusions after the fact.

Surprisingly, Ioannidis says another predictor of false findings is if a field is "hot", with many teams feeling pressure to beat the others to statistically significant findings.

But Solomon Snyder, senior editor at the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences, and a neuroscientist at Johns Hopkins Medical School in Baltimore, US, says most working scientists understand the limitations of published research.

"When I read the literature, I'm not reading it to find proof like a textbook. I'm reading to get ideas. So even if something is wrong with the paper, if they have the kernel of a novel idea, that's something to think about," he says.

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John Ioannidis, an epidemiologist at the University of Ioannina School of Medicine in Greece, says that small sample sizes, poor study design, researcher bias, and selective reporting and other problems combine to make most research findings false. But even large, well-designed studies are not always right, meaning that scientists and the public have to be wary of reported findings.

"We should accept that most research findings will be refuted. Some will be replicated and validated. The replication process is more important than the first discovery," Ioannidis says.

In the paper, Ioannidis does not show that any particular findings are false. Instead, he shows statistically how the many obstacles to getting research findings right combine to make most published research wrong.

Massaged conclusions

Traditionally a study is said to be "statistically significant" if the odds are only 1 in 20 that the result could be pure chance. But in a complicated field where there are many potential hypotheses to sift through - such as whether a particular gene influences a particular disease - it is easy to reach false conclusions using this standard. If you test 20 false hypotheses, one of them is likely to show up as true, on average.

Odds get even worse for studies that are too small, studies that find small effects (for example, a drug that works for only 10% of patients), or studies where the protocol and endpoints are poorly defined, allowing researchers to massage their conclusions after the fact.

Surprisingly, Ioannidis says another predictor of false findings is if a field is "hot", with many teams feeling pressure to beat the others to statistically significant findings.

But Solomon Snyder, senior editor at the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences, and a neuroscientist at Johns Hopkins Medical School in Baltimore, US, says most working scientists understand the limitations of published research.

"When I read the literature, I'm not reading it to find proof like a textbook. I'm reading to get ideas. So even if something is wrong with the paper, if they have the kernel of a novel idea, that's something to think about," he says.

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John Ioannidis, an epidemiologist at the University of Ioannina School of Medicine in Greece, says that small sample sizes, poor study design, researcher bias, and selective reporting and other problems combine to make most research findings false. But even large, well-designed studies are not always right, meaning that scientists and the public have to be wary of reported findings.

"We should accept that most research findings will be refuted. Some will be replicated and validated. The replication process is more important than the first discovery," Ioannidis says.

In the paper, Ioannidis does not show that any particular findings are false. Instead, he shows statistically how the many obstacles to getting research findings right combine to make most published research wrong.

Massaged conclusions

Traditionally a study is said to be "statistically significant" if the odds are only 1 in 20 that the result could be pure chance. But in a complicated field where there are many potential hypotheses to sift through - such as whether a particular gene influences a particular disease - it is easy to reach false conclusions using this standard. If you test 20 false hypotheses, one of them is likely to show up as true, on average.

Odds get even worse for studies that are too small, studies that find small effects (for example, a drug that works for only 10% of patients), or studies where the protocol and endpoints are poorly defined, allowing researchers to massage their conclusions after the fact.

Surprisingly, Ioannidis says another predictor of false findings is if a field is "hot", with many teams feeling pressure to beat the others to statistically significant findings.

But Solomon Snyder, senior editor at the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences, and a neuroscientist at Johns Hopkins Medical School in Baltimore, US, says most working scientists understand the limitations of published research.

"When I read the literature, I'm not reading it to find proof like a textbook. I'm reading to get ideas. So even if something is wrong with the paper, if they have the kernel of a novel idea, that's something to think about," he says.

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Goed, Exodus, 'shocking' interview, met JD. Het is een lap tekst, maar wel de moeite waard. Lettend op wat er verteld wordt, kom ik tot eenzelfde conclusie als voorheen: ik zeg NIET dat er geen héle rare dingen gebeuren daar. Echter, het moet toch wel erg sterk zijn, als alle aanwezigen daarvan op de hoogte zijn. Want, zoals het vaak gaat met dit soort gatherings, weet 90% van niets en zijn het die 10% die hun eigen matrix scheppen.
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Memphisto,

Zo te zien ben je aan het stuiptrekken.
De vraag is nu, durf je het muurtje waar je tegenaanloopt te verwijderen?


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Helaas, Pindar, dat 'muurtje', zoals jij het noemt, blijft. Dat heet mijn gezond sceptisme. En, zoals ik al eerder zei: er zijn genoeg rotte appels. Gelukkig heb ik geen bijgeloof nodig om dat te verklaren. Want reptielen, aliens, ruimteschepen, holle aarde, enzovoort, zie ik als bijgeloof. Broodnodig om te 'begrijpen' wat er gaande is.

De mens kan veel, maar niet dat. Simpelweg al omdat ze voor haar voedsel afhankelijk is van de aarde. Mensen kunnen verkrachten wat ze willen; het gros zal er nooit of te nimmer aan toegeven. En dit gros zit óók op hoge posities.

Jullie moeten gewoon niet teveel alles aan elkaar willen linken, want dat levert uiteindelijk enkel maar kromme redenaties op. Voorlopig lees ik het maar aldus: alles is een inside-job, volgens jullie normen, want de hele wereld werkt [onbewust] mee aan de vorming van een NWO. En dat verwijs ik dus gevoeglijk naar de prullenmand. Slaap lekker; tegende tijd dat jullie [onbewust] een nieuwe wereldorde hebben geschapen, heb ik [bewust] mijn eigen dromen gerealiseerd.
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Oud 1 september 2005, 18:10   #2278
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"second look upon your words":
"Feit is dat het geen elitaire bijeenkomst is met enkele duizenden mensen / [feit is] dat er een satanisch ritueel plaatsvindt."

- u zegt?
Idd,een begrafenis is geen satanisch ritueel.Iemand wordt over het algemeen ook slechts 1 keer begraven...

In Bohemian Grove vindt dat satanisch ritueel elk jaar plaats.Het is geenszins vergelijkbaar met de begrafenis van je bomma of bompa zoals jij die vgl maakte.
Het is een mensenoffer aan de god Muloch.Dat is een satanisch ritueel of je dat nu ontkent of niet.
Ik weet niet waarom je dat ontkent of tegenspreekt....dat van die paedofilie en zo heeft niks met dat satanisch ritueel te maken.[edit]
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"second look upon your words":
"Feit is dat het geen elitaire bijeenkomst is met enkele duizenden mensen / [feit is] dat er een satanisch ritueel plaatsvindt."

- u zegt?
Idd,een begrafenis is geen satanisch ritueel.Iemand wordt over het algemeen ook slechts 1 keer begraven...

In Bohemian Grove vindt dat satanisch ritueel elk jaar plaats.Het is geenszins vergelijkbaar met de begrafenis van je bomma of bompa zoals jij die vgl maakte.
Het is een mensenoffer aan de god Muloch.Dat is een satanisch ritueel of je dat nu ontkent of niet.
Ik weet niet waarom je dat ontkent of tegenspreekt....dat van die paedofilie en zo heeft niks met dat satanisch ritueel te maken.[/size]


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Citaat:
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"second look upon your words":
"Feit is dat het geen elitaire bijeenkomst is met enkele duizenden mensen / [feit is] dat er een satanisch ritueel plaatsvindt."

- u zegt?
Idd,een begrafenis is geen satanisch ritueel.Iemand wordt over het algemeen ook slechts 1 keer begraven...

In Bohemian Grove vindt dat satanisch ritueel elk jaar plaats.Het is geenszins vergelijkbaar met de begrafenis van je bomma of bompa zoals jij die maakte.
Het is een mensenoffer aan de god Muloch.Dat is een satanisch ritueel of je dat nu ontkent of niet.
Ik weet niet waarom je dat ontkent of tegenspreekt....dat van die paedofilie en zo heeft niks met dat satanisch ritueel te maken.[/size]
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Oud 1 september 2005, 18:16   #2279
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Even meeredenerend met de gemiddelde NWO-denker:
De USA heeft de budgetten voor damversterking in New Orleans natuurlijk bewust gekortwiekt. Dat is allemaal maar verloren geld, dat beter besteed kan worden aan de oorlog in Irak. Om nu te voorkomen dat ze blijven zeuren om die dammen, gooien we er een HAARP-orkaantje overheen.

Enige catch: hierna gaan de herstelwerkzamenheden flink in de papieren lopen. Hoogstwaarschijnlijk stukken duurder dan het verstevigen van die dammen. Maar soît, dat telt niet. Wat telt, is dat de NWO zo weer van zich heeft doen laten spelen. En een flinke uitzuivering van New Orleans heeft veroorzaakt, zeker?

Ik bedoel:
Hoe kun je nou zo stom zijn om te geloven dat de mens sterker is dan de aarde, de natuurkrachten die hier op aarde huishouden? Dat is hetzelfde als denken dat de zon om de aarde heen draait. "Kijk maar: 's morgens komt hij links op en 's avonds gaat hij rechts onder".
Daar gaan we weer..."die orkaan is van de NWO" leg je hier weer iedereen in de mond die in een NWO gelooft terwijl hier zo goed als niks over die orkaan is gezegd en enkel Pindar dat gelooft.

En het is best mogelijk -HAARP is best in staat tot het opwekken van windhozen,orkanen....droogtes,tsunamis,enz.
Weather modification was tijdens de koude oorlog ook al een dreiging.[edit]
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[size=1]After edit by Lex Blanca on 01-09-2005 at 19:28
Reason:
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Citaat:
Oorspronkelijk geplaatst door Mephisto
Even meeredenerend met de gemiddelde NWO-denker:
De USA heeft de budgetten voor damversterking in New Orleans natuurlijk bewust gekortwiekt. Dat is allemaal maar verloren geld, dat beter besteed kan worden aan de oorlog in Irak. Om nu te voorkomen dat ze blijven zeuren om die dammen, gooien we er een HAARP-orkaantje overheen.

Enige catch: hierna gaan de herstelwerkzamenheden flink in de papieren lopen. Hoogstwaarschijnlijk stukken duurder dan het verstevigen van die dammen. Maar soît, dat telt niet. Wat telt, is dat de NWO zo weer van zich heeft doen laten spelen. En een flinke uitzuivering van New Orleans heeft veroorzaakt, zeker?

Ik bedoel:
Hoe kun je nou zo stom zijn om te geloven dat de mens sterker is dan de aarde, de natuurkrachten die hier op aarde huishouden? Dat is hetzelfde als denken dat de zon om de aarde heen draait. "Kijk maar: 's morgens komt hij links op en 's avonds gaat hij rechts onder".
Daar gaan we weer..."die orkaan is van de NWO" leg je hier weer iedereen in de mond die in een NWO gelooft terwijl hier zo goed als niks over die orkaan is gezegd en enkel Pindar dat gelooft.

En het is best mogelijk -HAARP is best in staat tot het opwekken van windhozen,orkanen....droogtes,tsunamis,enz.
Weather modification was tijdens de koude oorlog ook al een dreiging.[/size]

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[size=1]After edit by Lex Blanca on 01-09-2005 at 19:16
Reason:
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Citaat:
Oorspronkelijk geplaatst door Mephisto
Even meeredenerend met de gemiddelde NWO-denker:
De USA heeft de budgetten voor damversterking in New Orleans natuurlijk bewust gekortwiekt. Dat is allemaal maar verloren geld, dat beter besteed kan worden aan de oorlog in Irak. Om nu te voorkomen dat ze blijven zeuren om die dammen, gooien we er een HAARP-orkaantje overheen.

Enige catch: hierna gaan de herstelwerkzamenheden flink in de papieren lopen. Hoogstwaarschijnlijk stukken duurder dan het verstevigen van die dammen. Maar soît, dat telt niet. Wat telt, is dat de NWO zo weer van zich heeft doen laten spelen. En een flinke uitzuivering van New Orleans heeft veroorzaakt, zeker?

Ik bedoel:
Hoe kun je nou zo stom zijn om te geloven dat de mens sterker is dan de aarde, de natuurkrachten die hier op aarde huishouden? Dat is hetzelfde als denken dat de zon om de aarde heen draait. "Kijk maar: 's morgens komt hij links op en 's avonds gaat hij rechts onder".
Daar gaan we weer..."die orkaan is van de NWO" leg je hier weer iedereen in de mond die in een NWO gelooft terwijl hier zo goed als niks over die orkaan is gezegt en enkel Pindar dat gelooft.

En het is best mogelijk -HAARP is best in staat tot het opwekken van windhozen,orkanen....droogtes,tsunamis,enz.
Weather modification was tijdens de koude oorlog ook al een dreiging.[/size]


[size=1]Before any edits, post was:
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Citaat:
Oorspronkelijk geplaatst door Mephisto
Even meeredenerend met de gemiddelde NWO-denker:
De USA heeft de budgetten voor damversterking in New Orleans natuurlijk bewust gekortwiekt. Dat is allemaal maar verloren geld, dat beter besteed kan worden aan de oorlog in Irak. Om nu te voorkomen dat ze blijven zeuren om die dammen, gooien we er een HAARP-orkaantje overheen.

Enige catch: hierna gaan de herstelwerkzamenheden flink in de papieren lopen. Hoogstwaarschijnlijk stukken duurder dan het verstevigen van die dammen. Maar soît, dat telt niet. Wat telt, is dat de NWO zo weer van zich heeft doen laten spelen. En een flinke uitzuivering van New Orleans heeft veroorzaakt, zeker?

Ik bedoel:
Hoe kun je nou zo stom zijn om te geloven dat de mens sterker is dan de aarde, de natuurkrachten die hier op aarde huishouden? Dat is hetzelfde als denken dat de zon om de aarde heen draait. "Kijk maar: 's morgens komt hij links op en 's avonds gaat hij rechts onder".
Daar gaan we weer..."die orkaan is van de NWO" leg je hier weer iedereen in de mond die in een NWO gelooft terwijl hier zo goed als niks over die orkaan is gezegt en enkel Pindar dat gelooft.

En het is best mogelijk -HAARP is best in staat tot het opwekken van windhozen,orkanen....droogtes,tsunamis,enz.[/size]
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Oud 1 september 2005, 18:19   #2280
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Joepie! Nog meer fantasie..

Stomme film zeker?
Geen fantasie,het is een docu. A.J. heeft zich binnengebluft in Bohemian Grove en het satanische ritueel gefilmd.
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