De nieuwe wereld orde

[exodus]

Oorspronkelijk geplaatst door Turkje

En hopla, de boekjes van de hand van Amerikaanse extreem-rechtse evangelische christenen duiken weer op om te fungeren als "bewijsmateriaal"... For the record: dat zijn dus dezelfde losers die geloven in Intelligent Design en consoorten..

Geef eens enig bewijs dat dat van een "Amerikaanse extreem-rechtse evangelische christen" komt? En dan nog, ik kijk naar de feiten. Niet naar wie het geschreven heeft.

[neutron]

Oorspronkelijk geplaatst door Pindar

[size=3]By Dr. John Coleman[/size]

destruction of all national identity and national pride,
the destruction of religion, and more especially, the Christian Religion,
To bring about the end to all industrialization
8. To suppress all scientific Especially targeted is nuclear energy for peaceful purposes. Particularly hated are the fusion experiments currently being scorned and ridiculed by the Illuminati and its jackals of the press.

9. To cause, by means of limited wars in the advanced countries, by means of starvation and diseases in the Third World countries, the death of three billion people by the year 2050, people they call "useless eaters".

10. To weaken the moral fiber of the nation and to demoralize workers in the labor class by creating mass unemployment.

12. To introduce new cults

14. To press for the spread of religious cults such as the Moslem Brotherhood, Moslem Fundamentalism, the Sikhs, and to carry out mind control experiments

15. To export "religious liberation" ideas around the world so as to undermine all existing religions, but more especially the Christian religion.

16. To cause a total collapse of the world's economies and engender total political chaos.

18. [size=3]To give the fullest support to supranational institutions such as the United Nations,[/size] the International Monetary Fund (IMF), the Bank of International Settlements, the World Court and, as far as possible, make local institutions less effective, by gradually phasing them out or bringing them under the mantle of the UN.

19. To penetrate and subvert all governments, and work from within them to destroy the sovereign integrity of the nations represented by them.

20. To organize a world-wide terrorist apparatus

21. To take control of education in America with the intent and purpose of utterly and completely destroying it.

[size=2]slaap zacht![/size]

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[size=2]Pindar [/size]

wat een doemgedenk, wie gelooft er nu zone zever? van die coleman of is het colenboer? wat een gekul

gelukkig heeft Michielszoon een betere boodschap,
een boodschap van vreugde, vrede, vriendschap, veiligheid, enz
het is duidelijk dat die coleman de vredesboodschap wil dwarsbomen door de VN overal zwart te maken zodat de bevolking zich verzet tegen de VN,
waardoor de corrupten langer hun macht behouden

[Turkje]

Oorspronkelijk geplaatst door /\|cazar

net zoals met drugs trouwens ... geen betere slaaf dan eentje die denkt vrij te zijn en die vrijheid 'bewerkstelligt' mbv escapisme ...

Ik zou eerder zeggen: geen betere slaaf die nooit zal proberen te ontsnappen dan degene bij wie het erin is gelepeld dat de middelen tot ontsnapping (bvb. drugs) tot niets dienen.

[Pindar]

wat een doemgedenk, wie gelooft er nu zone zever? van die coleman of is het colenboer? wat een gekul

gelukkig heeft Michielszoon een betere boodschap,
een boodschap van vreugde, vrede, vriendschap, veiligheid, enz
het is duidelijk dat die coleman de vredesboodschap wil dwarsbomen door de VN overal zwart te maken zodat de bevolking zich verzet tegen de VN,
waardoor de corrupten langer hun macht behouden

Ga je verder met de blijde boodschap verkondigen of
ga je je huiswerk eens doen?


met vriendelijke groeten

Pindar

[exodus]

Oorspronkelijk geplaatst door neutron

wat een doemgedenk, wie gelooft er nu zone zever? van die coleman of is het colenboer? wat een gekul

gelukkig heeft Michielszoon een betere boodschap,
een boodschap van vreugde, vrede, vriendschap, veiligheid, enz
het is duidelijk dat die coleman de vredesboodschap wil dwarsbomen door de VN overal zwart te maken zodat de bevolking zich verzet tegen de VN,
waardoor de corrupten langer hun macht behouden

Jaja , dat is de boodschap die die propagandisten van de NWO ons willen doen geloven.

Wat coleman schrijft is gebaseerd op de feiten. De NWO zijn geen scoutsleden. Dit zijn serieuze personen en ze menen wat ze doen en wat ze willen. En ze willen onze vrijheid. Er is niets dat je hebt of ooit wenst te hebben dat zij niet willen.

Dat laatste dat je schrijft, dat geloof je toch zelf niet?

[Turkje]

Oorspronkelijk geplaatst door exodus

Geef eens enig bewijs dat dat van een "Amerikaanse extreem-rechtse evangelische christen" komt?

Bekijk de titel misschien even, will ya...

En dan nog, ik kijk naar de feiten. Niet naar wie het geschreven heeft.

Ja hoor... "de feiten"... Volgens degene die het geschreven heeft, bestaat de aarde zo ongeveer een goeie 6000 jaar. Is dat genoeg "feit" voor u?

[exodus]

Oorspronkelijk geplaatst door Turkje

Bekijk de titel misschien even, will ya...

De titel... juist , aan de titel kan je zien dat het van een "Amerikaanse extreem-rechtse evangelische christen" komt. Proficiat.

Ja hoor... "de feiten"... Volgens degene die het geschreven heeft, bestaat de aarde zo ongeveer een goeie 6000 jaar. Is dat genoeg "feit" voor u?

Geen bewijzen. Alleen maar aantijgingen die op niets gebaseerd zijn. Ik reageer dan ook niet meer op uw want u bent het niet waard.

[Firestone]

Zeg, Exodus, de John Birch Society is anders wel voldoende bekend, hoor.
Dat dat boek uit extreem-rechtse hoek komt is overduidelijk.

Zoek het gewoon op.

(Tot binnen enkele weken ... )

[Turkje]

Oorspronkelijk geplaatst door exodus

De titel... juist , aan de titel kan je zien dat het van een "Amerikaanse extreem-rechtse evangelische christen" komt. Proficiat.

Het spreekt voor jouw Ontzagwekkende Intellect dat jij dat tot dusver nog niet had ingezien.

Soit: als je wil weten hoe mr. Grigg denkt over andere issues, dan kan je altijd terecht bij het oerconservatieve blad "The New American" (waar mr. Grigg editor van is), en eens nalezen hoe ze daar denken over abortus, rechten van homo's, immigratie, gun control, ... en andere onderwerpen die "toevallig" goed in de markt liggen bij extreem-rechtse conservatieve christenen. FEITEN, Exodus, FEITEN, weet je wel...

Ge moet niet meer reageren hoor: ik weet dat je fout bent.

[parcifal]

Oorspronkelijk geplaatst door /\|cazar

Parcifal de Rukker dus ...

Haha.
Nee, ik verdien er af en toe een goed belegde boterham mee.
(hoewel producties meer en meer naar het ex-oostblok trekken)

En mijn ziel is nog in prima staat! Spiksplinternieuw!

[parcifal]

Oorspronkelijk geplaatst door Pindar

Klopt, maar dat niet alleen. Het opent je onderste chakra's
zodat je makkelijk beinvloedbaar bent voor mind-control
en "ELF". dat is een van de doelen.
Ander doel is systematische desensitisatie van ons ivm sexuele magie die
ze bij de satanische rituelen houden.(zie bv Arizona Wilder en Cathy O'Brien)
porno komt rechtstreeks van de illuminati, zo zijn bv de vieze gore
snuff-movies ook van hun.
Onder het mom van vrijheid wordt het gepropageerd, maar het is vernietigend
voor de maatschappij.

In dat geval ben ik dus zelf lid van de illuminati, aangezien ik zelf
af en toe iets produceer.

[Pindar]

When Good People Do Nothing

by James Randall Noblitt and Pamela Perskin

Almost sixty years ago, a very similar situation evolved in western Europe, and the resulting catastrophe was responsible for the annihilation of six million innocent men, women, and children. These six million people were beaten, starved, tortured and murdered in an area considered to be the heart of European civilization and in the midst of a people proud of their civilized heritage. [size=5]They died not so much because a few evil people were able to exert control over their countrymen, but because good people failed to speak out or take appropriate action.[/size]

History will have to record that the greatest tragedy of this period of social transition was not the vitriolic words and violent actions of the "bad" people—but the appalling silence and indifference of the "good" people. Our generation will have to repent, not only for the words and actions of the children of darkness, but also for the fears and apathy of the children of light.

Ritual abuse is an ugly label for acts frequently reported but rarely well defined. Reports of ritual abuse permeate the media and the courts, but what do they mean? Are these claims indicative of a conspiracy of evil-worshippers preying upon the most vulnerable members of society? Or are they the consequence of a virtual witch-hunt instigated by an over-reactive mental health industry?

Despite sensational media reports depicting a contentious psychotherapeutic community rallying suggestible psychiatric patients to blame their dysfunctional, unsatisfying lives on newly recovered memories of horrendous childhood abuse, there is no sufficient evidence to support such a theory. In all the cases that we have investigated where a therapist was accused of implanting "false memories" we found that the allegations were disputed and the false memory theory was prompted by dubious or questionable motives (e.g., the prospect of financial gain via civil suit). In some cases, we found that the allegations of implanting false memories were patently false, e.g., the client had the memories before ever consulting a therapist. The theory that thousands of therapists are deliberately promoting false memories in their patients is ludicrous and unsupported by data.

It comes as no surprise to note that some people’s recollections can be affected by deliberate procedures used in a laboratory for that purpose. However, no study has ever demonstrated that therapists are deliberately or intentionally working to alter the memories of their clients as the researchers have done in the few analog studies available on this subject. Rather, child abuse is an accepted, though regrettable, fact of life.

In fact, even though child abuse is recognized as the primary cause of traumatic death among children, experts in the fields of medicine, law enforcement, and social services believe that child abuse is vastly under reported and that fatalities among children are commonly misidentified as being the consequence of natural causes rather than abuse related trauma (U.S. Advisory Board on Child Abuse and Neglect, 1995).

Some of this abuse is described as "ritual" or "ritualistic" abuse. In a study reported by Finkelhor, Williams, Burns, and Kalinowski, the authors found that 13% of a national sample of 270 cases of child abuse in a day care setting involved allegations of ritual abuse. We have defined ritual abuse as "deliberate abuse carried out in a circumscribed manner in order to cause dissociation or to manipulate already-created dissociated states of mind" (Noblitt & Perskin, 1995, p. 168).

But does ritual abuse actually occur? It would be beyond the scope of this article to cite all the evidence we have found that ritual abuse does exist. However, we have summarized our findings in Cult and Ritual Abuse: Its History, Anthropology, and Recent Discovery in Contemporary America (Noblitt & Perskin, 1995). Furthermore, an excellent scholarly review of the research on ritual abuse has been published in the American Professional Society on the Abuse of Children Advisor (Faller, 1994).

[size=3]Suffice it to say, we find there to be a very strong case in the scientific and scholarly literature which shows that ritual abuse is an unfortunate feature of modern life in Western as well as preindustrial cultures.[/size] We also find that cases of ritual abuse are often mishandled and victims continue to suffer in the legal system and the labyrinth of social service agencies which are poorly equipped and rarely trained in this area. In spite of the evidence, skepticism and apathy are still prevalent obstacles to the safety and well-being of ritual abuse survivors and their advocates.

Almost sixty years ago, a very similar situation evolved in western Europe, and the resulting catastrophe was responsible for the annihilation of six million innocent men, women, and children. These six million people were beaten, starved, tortured and murdered in an area considered to be the heart of European civilization and in the midst of a people proud of their civilized heritage. [size=4]They died not so much because a few evil people were able to exert control over their countrymen, but because good people failed to speak out or take appropriate action[/size].

We are writing as secular individuals, and are puzzled by the reluctance of the Christian fellowship to come to the aid of individuals alleging ritual abuse. Too often, we hear of cases where survivors feel abandoned and alienated from the clergy and the religious community. Instead of embracing survivors, supporting them emotionally and spiritually, and acting as their advocates, the Christian community and its leadership have often turned their backs on victims, even to the extent of supporting individuals alleged to be perpetrators of such abuse. In the case of the Nazi Holocaust, six million Jews as well as many other innocent victims were killed while the world looked on apathetically. Few important church leaders challenged this atrocity. Are we witnessing a similar shameful silence?

We are hopeful that the Christian community will not only become the case of current and ongoing ritual abuse? active in confronting ritual abuse, but that they will take a leadership role in eliminating such practices. Consider how much could be accomplished if the clergy would adopt an advocacy role in promoting public awareness and in assisting in the desperately needed fund raising which would support research, treatment and legal assistance for those victimized by ritual abuse. "

Bron: http://www.hiddenmysteries.org/mind/...re021101c.html


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Almost sixty years ago, a very similar situation evolved in western Europe, and the resulting catastrophe was responsible for the annihilation of six million innocent men, women, and children. These six million people were beaten, starved, tortured and murdered in an area considered to be the heart of European civilization and in the midst of a people proud of their civilized heritage. [size=5]They died not so much because a few evil people were able to exert control over their countrymen, but because good people failed to speak out or take appropriate action.[/size]

History will have to record that the greatest tragedy of this period of social transition was not the vitriolic words and violent actions of the "bad" people—but the appalling silence and indifference of the "good" people. Our generation will have to repent, not only for the words and actions of the children of darkness, but also for the fears and apathy of the children of light.

Ritual abuse is an ugly label for acts frequently reported but rarely well defined. Reports of ritual abuse permeate the media and the courts, but what do they mean? Are these claims indicative of a conspiracy of evil-worshippers preying upon the most vulnerable members of society? Or are they the consequence of a virtual witch-hunt instigated by an over-reactive mental health industry?

Despite sensational media reports depicting a contentious psychotherapeutic community rallying suggestible psychiatric patients to blame their dysfunctional, unsatisfying lives on newly recovered memories of horrendous childhood abuse, there is no sufficient evidence to support such a theory. In all the cases that we have investigated where a therapist was accused of implanting "false memories" we found that the allegations were disputed and the false memory theory was prompted by dubious or questionable motives (e.g., the prospect of financial gain via civil suit). In some cases, we found that the allegations of implanting false memories were patently false, e.g., the client had the memories before ever consulting a therapist. The theory that thousands of therapists are deliberately promoting false memories in their patients is ludicrous and unsupported by data.

It comes as no surprise to note that some people’s recollections can be affected by deliberate procedures used in a laboratory for that purpose. However, no study has ever demonstrated that therapists are deliberately or intentionally working to alter the memories of their clients as the researchers have done in the few analog studies available on this subject. Rather, child abuse is an accepted, though regrettable, fact of life.

In fact, even though child abuse is recognized as the primary cause of traumatic death among children, experts in the fields of medicine, law enforcement, and social services believe that child abuse is vastly under reported and that fatalities among children are commonly misidentified as being the consequence of natural causes rather than abuse related trauma (U.S. Advisory Board on Child Abuse and Neglect, 1995).

Some of this abuse is described as "ritual" or "ritualistic" abuse. In a study reported by Finkelhor, Williams, Burns, and Kalinowski, the authors found that 13% of a national sample of 270 cases of child abuse in a day care setting involved allegations of ritual abuse. We have defined ritual abuse as "deliberate abuse carried out in a circumscribed manner in order to cause dissociation or to manipulate already-created dissociated states of mind" (Noblitt & Perskin, 1995, p. 168).

But does ritual abuse actually occur? It would be beyond the scope of this article to cite all the evidence we have found that ritual abuse does exist. However, we have summarized our findings in Cult and Ritual Abuse: Its History, Anthropology, and Recent Discovery in Contemporary America (Noblitt & Perskin, 1995). Furthermore, an excellent scholarly review of the research on ritual abuse has been published in the American Professional Society on the Abuse of Children Advisor (Faller, 1994).

[size=3]Suffice it to say, we find there to be a very strong case in the scientific and scholarly literature which shows that ritual abuse is an unfortunate feature of modern life in Western as well as preindustrial cultures.[/size] We also find that cases of ritual abuse are often mishandled and victims continue to suffer in the legal system and the labyrinth of social service agencies which are poorly equipped and rarely trained in this area. In spite of the evidence, skepticism and apathy are still prevalent obstacles to the safety and well-being of ritual abuse survivors and their advocates.

Almost sixty years ago, a very similar situation evolved in western Europe, and the resulting catastrophe was responsible for the annihilation of six million innocent men, women, and children. These six million people were beaten, starved, tortured and murdered in an area considered to be the heart of European civilization and in the midst of a people proud of their civilized heritage. [size=4]They died not so much because a few evil people were able to exert control over their countrymen, but because good people failed to speak out or take appropriate action[/size].

We are writing as secular individuals, and are puzzled by the reluctance of the Christian fellowship to come to the aid of individuals alleging ritual abuse. Too often, we hear of cases where survivors feel abandoned and alienated from the clergy and the religious community. Instead of embracing survivors, supporting them emotionally and spiritually, and acting as their advocates, the Christian community and its leadership have often turned their backs on victims, even to the extent of supporting individuals alleged to be perpetrators of such abuse. In the case of the Nazi Holocaust, six million Jews as well as many other innocent victims were killed while the world looked on apathetically. Few important church leaders challenged this atrocity. Are we witnessing a similar shameful silence?

We are hopeful that the Christian community will not only become the case of current and ongoing ritual abuse? active in confronting ritual abuse, but that they will take a leadership role in eliminating such practices. Consider how much could be accomplished if the clergy would adopt an advocacy role in promoting public awareness and in assisting in the desperately needed fund raising which would support research, treatment and legal assistance for those victimized by ritual abuse. "

Bron: http://www.hiddenmysteries.org/mind/...re021101c.html


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Almost sixty years ago, a very similar situation evolved in western Europe, and the resulting catastrophe was responsible for the annihilation of six million innocent men, women, and children. These six million people were beaten, starved, tortured and murdered in an area considered to be the heart of European civilization and in the midst of a people proud of their civilized heritage. They died not so much because a few evil people were able to exert control over their countrymen, but because good people failed to speak out or take appropriate action.

History will have to record that the greatest tragedy of this period of social transition was not the vitriolic words and violent actions of the "bad" people—but the appalling silence and indifference of the "good" people. Our generation will have to repent, not only for the words and actions of the children of darkness, but also for the fears and apathy of the children of light.

Ritual abuse is an ugly label for acts frequently reported but rarely well defined. Reports of ritual abuse permeate the media and the courts, but what do they mean? Are these claims indicative of a conspiracy of evil-worshippers preying upon the most vulnerable members of society? Or are they the consequence of a virtual witch-hunt instigated by an over-reactive mental health industry?

Despite sensational media reports depicting a contentious psychotherapeutic community rallying suggestible psychiatric patients to blame their dysfunctional, unsatisfying lives on newly recovered memories of horrendous childhood abuse, there is no sufficient evidence to support such a theory. In all the cases that we have investigated where a therapist was accused of implanting "false memories" we found that the allegations were disputed and the false memory theory was prompted by dubious or questionable motives (e.g., the prospect of financial gain via civil suit). In some cases, we found that the allegations of implanting false memories were patently false, e.g., the client had the memories before ever consulting a therapist. The theory that thousands of therapists are deliberately promoting false memories in their patients is ludicrous and unsupported by data.

It comes as no surprise to note that some people’s recollections can be affected by deliberate procedures used in a laboratory for that purpose. However, no study has ever demonstrated that therapists are deliberately or intentionally working to alter the memories of their clients as the researchers have done in the few analog studies available on this subject. Rather, child abuse is an accepted, though regrettable, fact of life.

In fact, even though child abuse is recognized as the primary cause of traumatic death among children, experts in the fields of medicine, law enforcement, and social services believe that child abuse is vastly under reported and that fatalities among children are commonly misidentified as being the consequence of natural causes rather than abuse related trauma (U.S. Advisory Board on Child Abuse and Neglect, 1995).

Some of this abuse is described as "ritual" or "ritualistic" abuse. In a study reported by Finkelhor, Williams, Burns, and Kalinowski, the authors found that 13% of a national sample of 270 cases of child abuse in a day care setting involved allegations of ritual abuse. We have defined ritual abuse as "deliberate abuse carried out in a circumscribed manner in order to cause dissociation or to manipulate already-created dissociated states of mind" (Noblitt & Perskin, 1995, p. 168).

But does ritual abuse actually occur? It would be beyond the scope of this article to cite all the evidence we have found that ritual abuse does exist. However, we have summarized our findings in Cult and Ritual Abuse: Its History, Anthropology, and Recent Discovery in Contemporary America (Noblitt & Perskin, 1995). Furthermore, an excellent scholarly review of the research on ritual abuse has been published in the American Professional Society on the Abuse of Children Advisor (Faller, 1994).

Suffice it to say, we find there to be a very strong case in the scientific and scholarly literature which shows that ritual abuse is an unfortunate feature of modern life in Western as well as preindustrial cultures. We also find that cases of ritual abuse are often mishandled and victims continue to suffer in the legal system and the labyrinth of social service agencies which are poorly equipped and rarely trained in this area. In spite of the evidence, skepticism and apathy are still prevalent obstacles to the safety and well-being of ritual abuse survivors and their advocates.

Almost sixty years ago, a very similar situation evolved in western Europe, and the resulting catastrophe was responsible for the annihilation of six million innocent men, women, and children. These six million people were beaten, starved, tortured and murdered in an area considered to be the heart of European civilization and in the midst of a people proud of their civilized heritage. They died not so much because a few evil people were able to exert control over their countrymen, but because good people failed to speak out or take appropriate action.

We are writing as secular individuals, and are puzzled by the reluctance of the Christian fellowship to come to the aid of individuals alleging ritual abuse. Too often, we hear of cases where survivors feel abandoned and alienated from the clergy and the religious community. Instead of embracing survivors, supporting them emotionally and spiritually, and acting as their advocates, the Christian community and its leadership have often turned their backs on victims, even to the extent of supporting individuals alleged to be perpetrators of such abuse. In the case of the Nazi Holocaust, six million Jews as well as many other innocent victims were killed while the world looked on apathetically. Few important church leaders challenged this atrocity. Are we witnessing a similar shameful silence?

We are hopeful that the Christian community will not only become the case of current and ongoing ritual abuse? active in confronting ritual abuse, but that they will take a leadership role in eliminating such practices. Consider how much could be accomplished if the clergy would adopt an advocacy role in promoting public awareness and in assisting in the desperately needed fund raising which would support research, treatment and legal assistance for those victimized by ritual abuse. "

Bron: http://www.hiddenmysteries.org/mind/...re021101c.html


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[size=4]Almost sixty years ago, a very similar situation evolved in western Europe, and the resulting catastrophe was responsible for the annihilation of six million innocent men, women, and children. These six million people were beaten, starved, tortured and murdered in an area considered to be the heart of European civilization and in the midst of a people proud of their civilized heritage. [size=6]They died not so much because a few evil people were able to exert control over their countrymen, but because good people failed to speak out or take appropriate action.[/size]

[size=4]History will have to record that the greatest tragedy of this period of social transition was not the vitriolic words and violent actions of the "bad" people—[size=5]but the appalling silence and indifference of the "good" people.[/size] Our generation will have to repent, not only for the words and actions of the children of darkness, but also for the fears and apathy of the children of light.

Ritual abuse is an ugly label for acts frequently reported but rarely well defined. Reports of ritual abuse permeate the media and the courts, but what do they mean? Are these claims indicative of a conspiracy of evil-worshippers preying upon the most vulnerable members of society? Or are they the consequence of a virtual witch-hunt instigated by an over-reactive mental health industry?

Despite sensational media reports depicting a contentious psychotherapeutic community rallying suggestible psychiatric patients to blame their dysfunctional, unsatisfying lives on newly recovered memories of horrendous childhood abuse, there is no sufficient evidence to support such a theory. In all the cases that we have investigated where a therapist was accused of implanting "false memories" we found that the allegations were disputed and the false memory theory was prompted by dubious or questionable motives (e.g., the prospect of financial gain via civil suit). In some cases, we found that the allegations of implanting false memories were patently false, e.g., the client had the memories before ever consulting a therapist. The theory that thousands of therapists are deliberately promoting false memories in their patients is ludicrous and unsupported by data.

It comes as no surprise to note that some people’s recollections can be affected by deliberate procedures used in a laboratory for that purpose. However, no study has ever demonstrated that therapists are deliberately or intentionally working to alter the memories of their clients as the researchers have done in the few analog studies available on this subject. Rather, child abuse is an accepted, though regrettable, fact of life.

In fact, even though child abuse is recognized as the primary cause of traumatic death among children, experts in the fields of medicine, law enforcement, and social services believe that child abuse is vastly under reported and that fatalities among children are commonly misidentified as being the consequence of natural causes rather than abuse related trauma (U.S. Advisory Board on Child Abuse and Neglect, 1995).

Some of this abuse is described as "ritual" or "ritualistic" abuse. In a study reported by Finkelhor, Williams, Burns, and Kalinowski, the authors found that 13% of a national sample of 270 cases of child abuse in a day care setting involved allegations of ritual abuse. We have defined ritual abuse as "deliberate abuse carried out in a circumscribed manner in order to cause dissociation or to manipulate already-created dissociated states of mind" (Noblitt & Perskin, 1995, p. 168).

But does ritual abuse actually occur? It would be beyond the scope of this article to cite all the evidence we have found that ritual abuse does exist. However, we have summarized our findings in Cult and Ritual Abuse: Its History, Anthropology, and Recent Discovery in Contemporary America (Noblitt & Perskin, 1995). Furthermore, an excellent scholarly review of the research on ritual abuse has been published in the American Professional Society on the Abuse of Children Advisor (Faller, 1994).

Suffice it to say, we find there to be a very strong case in the scientific and scholarly literature which shows that ritual abuse is an unfortunate feature of modern life in Western as well as preindustrial cultures. We also find that cases of ritual abuse are often mishandled and victims continue to suffer in the legal system and the labyrinth of social service agencies which are poorly equipped and rarely trained in this area.[size=4] In spite of the evidence, skepticism and apathy are still prevalent obstacles to the safety and well-being of ritual abuse survivors and their advocates. [/size]

Almost sixty years ago, a very similar situation evolved in western Europe, and the resulting catastrophe was responsible for the annihilation of six million innocent men, women, and children. These six million people were beaten, starved, tortured and murdered in an area considered to be the heart of European civilization and in the midst of a people proud of their civilized heritage. They died not so much because a few evil people were able to exert control over their countrymen, but because good people failed to speak out or take appropriate action.

We are writing as secular individuals, and are puzzled by the reluctance of the Christian fellowship to come to the aid of individuals alleging ritual abuse. Too often, we hear of cases where survivors feel abandoned and alienated from the clergy and the religious community. Instead of embracing survivors, supporting them emotionally and spiritually, and acting as their advocates, the Christian community and its leadership have often turned their backs on victims, even to the extent of supporting individuals alleged to be perpetrators of such abuse. In the case of the Nazi Holocaust, six million Jews as well as many other innocent victims were killed while the world looked on apathetically. Few important church leaders challenged this atrocity. Are we witnessing a similar shameful silence?

We are hopeful that the Christian community will not only become the case of current and ongoing ritual abuse? active in confronting ritual abuse, but that they will take a leadership role in eliminating such practices. Consider how much could be accomplished if the clergy would adopt an advocacy role in promoting public awareness and in assisting in the desperately needed fund raising which would support research, treatment and legal assistance for those victimized by ritual abuse. "

Bron: http://www.hiddenmysteries.org/mind/...re021101c.html


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[size=4]Almost sixty years ago, a very similar situation evolved in western Europe, and the resulting catastrophe was responsible for the annihilation of six million innocent men, women, and children. These six million people were beaten, starved, tortured and murdered in an area considered to be the heart of European civilization and in the midst of a people proud of their civilized heritage. [size=6]They died not so much because a few evil people were able to exert control over their countrymen, but because good people failed to speak out or take appropriate action.[/size]

[size=4]History will have to record that the greatest tragedy of this period of social transition was not the vitriolic words and violent actions of the "bad" people—[size=5]but the appalling silence and indifference of the "good" people.[/size] Our generation will have to repent, not only for the words and actions of the children of darkness, but also for the fears and apathy of the children of light.

Ritual abuse is an ugly label for acts frequently reported but rarely well defined. Reports of ritual abuse permeate the media and the courts, but what do they mean? Are these claims indicative of a conspiracy of evil-worshippers preying upon the most vulnerable members of society? Or are they the consequence of a virtual witch-hunt instigated by an over-reactive mental health industry?

Despite sensational media reports depicting a contentious psychotherapeutic community rallying suggestible psychiatric patients to blame their dysfunctional, unsatisfying lives on newly recovered memories of horrendous childhood abuse, there is no sufficient evidence to support such a theory. In all the cases that we have investigated where a therapist was accused of implanting "false memories" we found that the allegations were disputed and the false memory theory was prompted by dubious or questionable motives (e.g., the prospect of financial gain via civil suit). In some cases, we found that the allegations of implanting false memories were patently false, e.g., the client had the memories before ever consulting a therapist. The theory that thousands of therapists are deliberately promoting false memories in their patients is ludicrous and unsupported by data.

It comes as no surprise to note that some people’s recollections can be affected by deliberate procedures used in a laboratory for that purpose. However, no study has ever demonstrated that therapists are deliberately or intentionally working to alter the memories of their clients as the researchers have done in the few analog studies available on this subject. Rather, child abuse is an accepted, though regrettable, fact of life.

In fact, even though child abuse is recognized as the primary cause of traumatic death among children, experts in the fields of medicine, law enforcement, and social services believe that child abuse is vastly under reported and that fatalities among children are commonly misidentified as being the consequence of natural causes rather than abuse related trauma (U.S. Advisory Board on Child Abuse and Neglect, 1995).

Some of this abuse is described as "ritual" or "ritualistic" abuse. In a study reported by Finkelhor, Williams, Burns, and Kalinowski, the authors found that 13% of a national sample of 270 cases of child abuse in a day care setting involved allegations of ritual abuse. We have defined ritual abuse as "deliberate abuse carried out in a circumscribed manner in order to cause dissociation or to manipulate already-created dissociated states of mind" (Noblitt & Perskin, 1995, p. 168).

But does ritual abuse actually occur? It would be beyond the scope of this article to cite all the evidence we have found that ritual abuse does exist. However, we have summarized our findings in Cult and Ritual Abuse: Its History, Anthropology, and Recent Discovery in Contemporary America (Noblitt & Perskin, 1995). Furthermore, an excellent scholarly review of the research on ritual abuse has been published in the American Professional Society on the Abuse of Children Advisor (Faller, 1994).

Suffice it to say, we find there to be a very strong case in the scientific and scholarly literature which shows that ritual abuse is an unfortunate feature of modern life in Western as well as preindustrial cultures. We also find that cases of ritual abuse are often mishandled and victims continue to suffer in the legal system and the labyrinth of social service agencies which are poorly equipped and rarely trained in this area.[size=4] In spite of the evidence, skepticism and apathy are still prevalent obstacles to the safety and well-being of ritual abuse survivors and their advocates. [/size]

Almost sixty years ago, a very similar situation evolved in western Europe, and the resulting catastrophe was responsible for the annihilation of six million innocent men, women, and children. These six million people were beaten, starved, tortured and murdered in an area considered to be the heart of European civilization and in the midst of a people proud of their civilized heritage. They died not so much because a few evil people were able to exert control over their countrymen, but because good people failed to speak out or take appropriate action.

We are writing as secular individuals, and are puzzled by the reluctance of the Christian fellowship to come to the aid of individuals alleging ritual abuse. Too often, we hear of cases where survivors feel abandoned and alienated from the clergy and the religious community. Instead of embracing survivors, supporting them emotionally and spiritually, and acting as their advocates, the Christian community and its leadership have often turned their backs on victims, even to the extent of supporting individuals alleged to be perpetrators of such abuse. In the case of the Nazi Holocaust, six million Jews as well as many other innocent victims were killed while the world looked on apathetically. Few important church leaders challenged this atrocity. Are we witnessing a similar shameful silence?

We are hopeful that the Christian community will not only become the case of current and ongoing ritual abuse? active in confronting ritual abuse, but that they will take a leadership role in eliminating such practices. Consider how much could be accomplished if the clergy would adopt an advocacy role in promoting public awareness and in assisting in the desperately needed fund raising which would support research, treatment and legal assistance for those victimized by ritual abuse. "

Bron: http://www.hiddenmysteries.org/mind/...re021101c.html


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[neutron]

wie heeft er belangstelling voor het nieuwe paradigma
van Michielszoon Emmanuel
beschreven in zijn boek
De Verenigde Naties, het Rijk Gods?
uitgegeven in 1995

ik kan nog aan enkele exemplaren geraken
15 euro verzendkosten inbegrepen
[email protected]

[parcifal]

Oorspronkelijk geplaatst door neutron

wie heeft er belangstelling voor het nieuwe paradigma
van Michielszoon Emmanuel
beschreven in zijn boek
De Verenigde Naties, het Rijk Gods?
uitgegeven in 1995

ik kan nog aan enkele exemplaren geraken
15 euro verzendkosten inbegrepen
1w(at)pandora.be

Volgens mij ben jij zelf die Michielszoon (of zijn uitgever)...

[neutron]

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Volgens mij ben jij zelf die Michielszoon (of zijn uitgever)...

en jij bent die Coleman (of zijn uitgever)...


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Michielszoon is een professor in de filosofie,
auteur en één van de grootste denkers van deze tijd,
maar zoals alle grote denkers...miskend en beschimpt...

ik volg al jaren zijn voorspellingen
en de auguren van zijn gelijk zijn duidelijk[edit]
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en jij bent die Coleman (of zijn uitgever)...


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Michielszoon is een professor in de filosofie,
auteur en één van de grootste denkers van deze tijd,
maar zoals alle grote denkers...miskend en beschimpt...

ik volg al jaren zijn voorspellingen
en de auguren van zijn gelijk zijn duidelijk[/size]

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[size=1]After edit by neutron on 11-10-2005 at 16:56
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en jij bent die Coleman (of zijn uitgever)...


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[Vlaanderen Boven]

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Parcifal de Rukker dus ...

Ik ook, reken maar van yes!

[exodus]

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en jij bent die Coleman (of zijn uitgever)...


=,+)

Michielszoon is een professor in de filosofie,
auteur en één van de grootste denkers van deze tijd,
maar zoals alle grote denkers...miskend en beschimpt...

ik volg al jaren zijn voorspellingen
en de auguren van zijn gelijk zijn duidelijk

Die Michielszoon zou beter zijn feiten eens checken. De V.N is een van de meest corrupte organisaties.

[neutron]

Oorspronkelijk geplaatst door exodus

Die Michielszoon zou beter zijn feiten eens checken. De V.N is een van de meest corrupte organisaties.

nu misschien wel,
maar dat moet je kunnen bewijzen
er zijn er inderdaad veel die van de VN profiteren

en de corrupte Belgische politici, vakbonden en rechters dan?

[parcifal]

Oorspronkelijk geplaatst door neutron

Michielszoon is een professor in de filosofie,
auteur en één van de grootste denkers van deze tijd,
maar zoals alle grote denkers...miskend en beschimpt...

ik volg al jaren zijn voorspellingen
en de auguren van zijn gelijk zijn duidelijk

Aha, en aan welke unief is die Michielszoon prof.?
Ik zoek zijn CV maar heb nog niet veel gevonden....
Fishy....[edit]
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Aha, en aan welke unief is die Michielszoon prof.?
Ik zoek zijn CV maar heb nog niet veel gevonden....
Fishy....[/size]

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Aha, en aan welke unief is die Michielszoon prof.?
Ik zoek zijn CV maar heb nog niet veel gevonden....
Fishy.. Ik ruik oplichting....[/size]

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[Lex Blanca]

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pornografie maakt de ziel kapot ... dat kan je ertegen hebben ...

net zoals met drugs trouwens ... geen betere slaaf dan eentje die denkt vrij te zijn en die vrijheid 'bewerkstelligt' mbv escapisme ...

Akkoord met het 2de deel van je post,maar;

Beide gevallen (pornographie en drugs) worden veelal in een verkeerd daglicht geplaatst door corrupte individuen die vaak het woord van God claimen te verkondigen en zijn wil doorvoeren met hun mening/regels hieromtrent.

Pff,komop,pornografie is lang zo erg niet...maakt zeker niet de ziel kapot.

En de War on Drugs,please...het lijkt wel de sociaal aanvaarde verderzetting van de Inquisitie van de Rooms-Katholieke kerk uit de Middeleeuwen.
De straffen die daarop staan,ik word ongemakkelijk als ik er aan denk.