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Ik zal mij eens wat verdiepen in Michielszoon want ik ken hem eerlijk gezegd ook niet. Wat overtuigen betreft: wat mij betreft moet er niet overtuigd worden... Best is in feite dat iedereen voor zichzelf tot inzicht komt en de moed heeft eerlijk te zijn tov zichzelf. Sensibiliseren is misschien eerder van toepassing. De Parcifals en Firestones etc. zijn intellectueel/wetenschappelijk heel correct in de discussie, maar bepaalde zaken kan je niet met geijkte methoden benaderen. Ik denk dat het begrijpen van bepaalde maatschappelijke zaken niet enkel met IQ maar met een evengrote, zo niet grotere dosis EQ (emotional) en SQ (spiritual) benaderd moeten worden. De discussie rond NWO is zo een geval. Daarmee wil ik dan ook niet zeggen dat de intellectueel correcten die EQ en SQ niet zouden hebben, wel dat ze deze in deze discussie misschien niet voldoende aanspreken... Voor mij is de VN ook maar een elementje in een heel complexe werkelijkheid. Een grootste gemende deler, die toch iets deugdelijk probeert te bewerkstelligen, doch onvermijdelijk evenzeer slachtoffer en speelbal is van malafiede krachten en dus onvermogend. Enfin, over de VN wil ik niet uitwijden hier, das een andere discussie... |
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voor zichzelf tot inzicht komen is voor mij niet genoeg hoor ik zou het graag juist willen weten want veronderstel dat de VN inderdaad door NWO-ers geleid wordt dan wil ik daar niet aan meewerken[edit] [size=1]Edit:[/size]
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De U.N is een gevaar voor de vrijheid want ze is een tool van de NWO. De U.N is een idee van de illuminati/NWO, en zij hangen communistisch gedachtengoed aan. Communisme was opgezet door de NWO. Alle secretaris generaals van de U.N waren marxisten in die zin dat ze het gedachtengoed ondersteunen dat communistisch kan genoemd worden. Deze quote van voormaling scretaris generaal U. Thant van de U.N laat geen twijfel bestaan over het gedachtengoed van de U.N "Lenin was a man with a mind of great clarity and incisiveness.... Lenin's ideals of peace and peaceful coexistence among states have won widespread international acceptance and they are in line with the aims of the UN Charter." - Thant op een UNESCO meeting Als de U.N verder evolueert en het voor het zeggen krijgt dan hebben we niets minder dan een nieuwe totalitaire superstaat. Overal waar de U.N zich wil gaan bemoeien zullen we onze vrijheid verliezen. De U.N wil zich net als elke totalitaire staat in elk facet van het leven van de burger bemoeien. Ook in educatie:Bertrand Russel , de socialistische filosoof en UNESCO adviseur laat zich ontvallen: "It May be hoped that in time anybody will be able to persuade anybody of anything if he can catch the patient young and is provided by the state with money and equipment... When the techniques have been perfected, every government that has been in control of education for a generation will be able to control its subjects securely without the need of armies or policemen..." — Humanist philosopher and UNESCO adviser Bertrand Russell[edit] [size=1]Edit:[/size]
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Kofi Annan, UN Secretary General Handel als middel om tot rijkdom te komen. Dat is niet communistisch, maar wel in lijn met het kapitalistisch-globalistische model. "The war we have to wage today has only one goal and that is to make the world safe for diversity". U. Thant, former UN Secretary General Diversiteit is niet direct het hoofdkenmerk van een communistisch regime (eufemistisch gezegd) En dit is misschien nog een goede tip: "The UN is not just a product of do-gooders. It is harshly real. The day will come when men will see the U.N. and what it means clearly. Everything will be all right -- you know when? When people, just people, stop thinking of the United Nations as a weird Picasso abstraction, and see it as a drawing they made themselves." Hammarskjold, Dag 1905-1961 Swedish Statesman Secretary-general of UN En aangezien "33" zo'n belangrijk getal is voor alle believers, wou ik jullie deze quote van de 33ste president van de Verenigde Staten niet onthouden: "The United Nations is designed to make possible lasting freedom and independence for all its members." Truman, Harry S. 1884-1972 Thirty-third President of the USA Now tell me, if quotes count as facts, what have I proven?
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Ok dan! Hier zat ik op te wachten! ![]() "We are not going to achieve a new world order without paying for it in blood as well as in words and money." Arthur Schlesinger, Jr., in Foreign Affairs (July/August 1995) [/size] [size=2]"It's not the votes that count, it's who counts the votes." -- Josef Stalin -- [/size] [size=2] "The world is governed by personalities very different to what people that cannot see further than their eyes, believe" - Benjamin Disraeli - (Statesman) [/size] [size=2] "Behind the October Revolution there are more influential personalities than the thinkers and executors of Marxism" - Lenin - (Illuminati) [/size][size=2] "The one who cannot see that on Earth a big endeavor is taking place, an important plan, on which realization we are allowed to collaborate as faithful servants, certainly has to be blind" - Winston Churchill - (33 Degree Freemason) [/size] [size=2] "What we say, goes" - George Bush (Illuminati) - as a response to what would happen after the collapse of the Soviet Union. He referred to the Council on Foreign Relations. [/size] [size=2] "... in politics nothing is accidental. If something happens, be assured it was planned this way" - Franklin D. Roosevelt - (32 Degree Freemason) [/size] [size=2] "Today, I say that no nation in the world need be left out of the global system we are constructing." - Madeleine Albright - [/size] [size=2] "Give me the power of the money and it will not matter any more who is commanding" - Mayer Amschel Rothschild - (Illuminati) [/size] [size=2] The following is from the magazine Progress for all January 1991, an interview regarding the clarification of the Pyramid and the shining eye on the back of the US One Dollar Bill "The seal of the pyramid was created by the Rothschild family and brought to North America by Benjamin Franklin and Alexander Hamilton before 1776.The Rothschild family is the head of the organization in which I entered in Colorado. All the Occult Brotherhoods are part of it. It is a Lucifer Organization to install his reign in the whole world. The eye on the pyramid is the eye of Lucifer. Supposedly the Rothschild's have personal dealings with the Devil. I have personally been in his villa and have experienced it. And I know it is true", - John Todd - ("Masonic Council of Thirteen") [/size][/font][size=2] We shall unleash the Nihilists and Atheists, and we shall provoke a formidable social cataclysm which in all its horror will show clearly to the nations the effects of absolute atheism, origin of savagery and of the most bloody turmoil. Then everywhere, the citizens, obliged to defend themselves against the world minority of revolutionaries, will exterminate those destroyers of civilization, and the multitude, disillusioned with Christianity, whose deistic spirits will be from that moment without compass, anxious for an ideal, but without knowing where to render its adoration, will receive the pure doctrine of Lucifer, brought finally out in the public view, a manifestation which will result from the general reactionary movement which will follow the destruction of Christianity and atheism, both conquered and exterminated at the same time. Illustrious Albert Pike 33° Letter 15 August 1871 Addressed to Grand Master Guiseppie Mazzini 33° Archives British Museum London, England [/size] [size=2] Fictions are necessary to the people, and the Truth becomes deadly to those who are not strong enough to contemplate it in all its brilliance. In fact, what can there be in common between the vile multitude and sublime wisdom? The truth must be kept secret, and the masses need a teaching proportioned to their imperfect reason. - Illustrious Albert Pike 33° Sovereign Grand Commander Mother Supreme Council of the World THE SUPREME COUNCIL of the ThirtyThird and Last Degree Ancient and Accepted Scottish Rite of Freemasonry Morals and Dogma, page 103 - [/size] [size=2] You must conceal all crimes of your brother Masons...and should you be summoned as a witness against a brother Mason be always sure to shield him...It may be perjury to do this, it is true, but you're keeping your obligations. Ronayne Handbook of Masonry, page 183 [/size] [size=2] "When nations get disappointed on their governments, the population will start to clamor for a singular Government that can bring peace and harmony. This will be the moment to enthrone our sovereign" - Member of the Illuminati - [/size] [size=2] "If we like it or not, we will have a One World Government. The question is if it will beachieved through consent or through conquest" - J. Warburg - (Illuminati and Rothschild banker) [/size] [size=2] "The Technocratic Age is slowly designing an every day more controlled society. The society will be dominated by an elite of persons free from traditional values (!) who will have no doubt in fulfilling their objectives by means of purged techniques with which they will influence the behavior of people and will control and watch the society in all details". "... it will become possible to exert a practically permanent watch on each citizen of the world". - Zbigniew Brzezinski - (Illuminati and co-founder of Trilateral Commission) [/size] [size=2] To achieve world government, it is necessary to remove from the minds of men their individualism, loyalty to family tradition, national patriotism and religious dogmas ... We have swallowed all manner of poisonous certainties fed us by our parents, our Sunday and day school teachers, our politicians, our priests, our newspapers and others with vested interests in controlling us. The reinterpretation and eventual eradication of the concept of right and wrong which has been the basis of child training, the substitution of intelligent and rational thinking for faith in the certainties of the old people, these are the belated objectives ... for charting the changes of human behavior. DIRECTOR, WORLD HEALTH ORGANIZATION Brock Chisolm [/size][size=2] "We are grateful to The Washington Post, The New York Times, Time Magazine and other great publications whose directors have attended our meetings and respected their promises of discretion for almost forty years. It would have been impossible for us to develop our plan for the world if we had been subject to the bright lights of publicity during those years. But, the work is now much more sophisticated and prepared to march towards a world government. The supranational sovereignty of an intellectual elite and world bankers is surely preferable to the national autodetermination practiced in past centuries." David Rockefeller, founder of the Trilateral Commission, in an address to a meeting of The Trilateral Commission, in June, 1991. [/size][size=2] "The idea was that those who direct the overall conspiracy could use the differences in those two so-called ideologies [marxism/fascism, socialism, capitalism, etc.] to enable them [the Illuminati] to divide larger and larger portions of the human race into opposing camps so that they could be armed and then brainwashed into fighting and destroying each other." Myron Fagan [/size][size=2] "No one will enter the New World Order unless he or she will make a pledge to worship Lucifer. No one will enter the New Age unless he will take a Luciferian Initiation." David Spangler, Director of Planetary Initiative, United Nations [/size] [size=2] "The world can therefore seize the opportunity (Persian Gulf crisis) to fulfill the long-held promise of a New World Order where diverse nations are drawn together in common cause to achieve the universal aspirations of mankind." George Herbert Walker Bush [/size] [size=2] "In the next century, nations as we know it will be obsolete; all states will recognize a single, global authority. National sovereignty wasn't such a great idea after all." Strobe Talbot, Clinton's Deputy Secretary of State, as quoted in Time, July 20th, l992. [/size] [size=2] "We shall have world government whether or not you like it, by conquest or consent." Statement by Council on Foreign Relations (CFR) member James Warburg to The Senate Foreign Relations Committee on February 17th, l950 [/size][size=2] "The governments of the present day have to deal not merely with other governments, with emperors, kings and ministers, but also with the secret societies which have everywhere their unscrupulous agents, and can at the last moment upset all the governments' plans. " British Prime Minister Benjamin Disraeli, 1876 [/size][size=2] "What is important is to dwell upon the increasing evidence of the existence of a secret conspiracy, throughout the world, for the destruction of organized government and the letting loose of evil." Christian Science Monitor editorial, June 19th, l920 [/size][size=2] "The real menace of our republic is this invisible government which like a giant octopus sprawls its slimy length over city, state and nation. Like the octopus of real life, it operates under cover of a self created screen....At the head of this octopus are the Rockefeller Standard Oil interests and a small group of powerful banking houses generally referred to as international bankers. The little coterie of powerful international bankers virtually run the United States government for their own selfish purposes. They practically control both political parties." New York City Mayor John F. Hylan, 1922 [/size][size=2] "From the days of Sparticus, Wieskhopf, Karl Marx, Trotsky, Rosa Luxemberg, and Emma Goldman, this world conspiracy has been steadily growing. This conspiracy played a definite recognizable role in the tragedy of the French revolution. It has been the mainspring of every subversive movement during the 19th century. And now at last this band of extraordinary personalities from the underworld of the great cities of Europe and America have gripped the Russian people by the hair of their head and have become the undisputed masters of that enormous empire." Winston Churchill, stated to the London Press, in l922. [/size] [size=2] "We are at present working discreetly with all our might to wrest this mysterious force called sovereignty out of the clutches of the local nation states of the world." Professor Arnold Toynbee, in a June l931 speech before the Institute for the Study of International Affairs in Copenhagen [/size][size=2] "The government of the Western nations, whether monarchical or republican, had passed into the invisible hands of a plutocracy, international in power and grasp. It was, I venture to suggest, this semioccult power which....pushed the mass of the American people into the cauldron of World War I." British military historian MajorGeneral J.F.C. Fuller, l941 [/size] [size=2] "The real rulers in Washington are invisible, and exercise power from behind the scenes." Supreme Court Justice Felix Frankfurter, 1952 [/size] [size=2] "Fifty men have run America, and that's a high figure." Joseph Kennedy, father of JFK, in the July 26th, l936 issue of The New York Times. [/size][size=2] "Today the path of total dictatorship in the United States can be laid by strictly legal means, unseen and unheard by the Congress, the President, or the people. Outwardly we have a Constitutional government. We have operating within our government and political system, another body representing another form of government - a bureaucratic elite. Senator William Jenner, 1954 [/size][size=2] "The New World Order will have to be built from the bottom up rather than from the top down...but in the end run around national sovereignty, eroding it piece by piece will accomplish much more than the old fashioned frontal assault." CFR member Richard Gardner, writing in the April l974 issue of the CFR's journal, Foreign Affairs. [/size][size=2] "The old world order changed when this war-storm broke. The old international order passed away as suddenly, as unexpectedly, and as completely as if it had been wiped out by a gigantic flood, by a great tempest, or by a volcanic eruption. The old world order died with the setting of that day's sun and a new world order is being born while I speak, with birth-pangs so terrible that it seems almost incredible that life could come out of such fearful suffering and such overwhelming sorrow." Nicholas Murray Butler, in an address delivered before the Union League of Philadelphia, Nov. 27, 1915 [/size][size=2] "The peace conference has assembled. It will make the most momentous decisions in history, and upon these decisions will rest the stability of the new world order and the future peace of the world." M. C. Alexander, Executive Secretary of the American Association for International Conciliation, in a subscription letter for the periodical International Conciliation (1919) [/size][size=2] "New World Order Needed for Peace: State Sovereignty Must Go, Declares Notre Dame Professor" Title of article in The Tablet (Brooklyn) (March 1942) [/size] met vriendelijke groeten Pindar [size=1]Edit:[/size]
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Het duurt zeker 5 seconden om voorbij die rommel hierboven te scrollen.... Kleiduif. ![]() [size=1]Edit:[/size]
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dat is inderdaad Amerikaanse bullshit van het 33 ste knoopsgat.. gelukkig is het binnenkort halloween dan kunnen ze zich wat afleiden van al dat doemgedenk groeteltjes |
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Bepaalde invloedrijke personen uit het verleden zeggen in die quotes zelf dat er een wereldwijde samenzwering is. Wat moet je meer hebben. Kijk naar wat ze zeggen , ze hebben het allemaal over een "new world order" en "global system" etc. Als je dan eens kijkt naar de structuur via de CFR , de RIIA, bilderberg , de secret societies, alle feiten, dan is het voor iedereen met hersens in zijn kop duidelijk dat de samenzwering er is en een ernstige bedreiging vormt voor de mensheid.
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schijn te maken, maar ik vind het een heel belangrijk onderdeel van de NWO Achter de schermen, vanuit een andere dimensie( ook wel genoemd de lagere astrale wereld) worden we 'geleid' door (negatieve) reptielen (ik kan er ook niks aan doen, mijn onderzoek brengt me daar). De levensduur van deze reptielen is vele malen langer dan die van de mens, waardoor hun tijdsbeleving ook heel anders is. M.a.w. wat voor de mensen een lange tijd is, is voor deze reptielen weer redelijk snel. Verder is het zo dat ze ons zo willen manipuleren, en ze zijn meesters in het manipuleren, dat we zelf kiezen voor de NWO. duh? Hoor ik hem weer? De inq.....? met vriendelijke groeten Pindar[edit] [size=1]Edit:[/size]
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maar hun doelstellingen zijn juist om de VN geen macht te geven omdat ze die zelf willen houden hun motto is: verdeel en heers |
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maar... we zijn er bijna en dan zal het snel gaan naar de vrede, ontwapening, enz |
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beste, meen jij dat nu of heb je dringend een psychiater nodig? er zijn geen spoken, reptielen enz hoor dus slaap zacht en morgen gezond weer op doei met vriendelijke groeten[edit] [size=1]Edit:[/size]
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Hun motto is Ordo Ab Chao.Ze willen de enige echte Supermacht VS kapotmaken (dat voorspellen al die auteurs die over NWO schrijven ook al 10 jaar).VS is bezig/begonnen die Chao te bekomen en het zal escaleren in het Midden-Oosten met de kruistocht tegen Islam.De VS zal ten onder gaan (verraden door hun leiders) en de NWO zal hun wereldregering doorvoeren.Nooit meer oorlog...
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Maar ik heb niet de behoefte iets achter te houden. Trouwens, wat 'we' ook zeggen, als men het er niet mee eens is gaat men ridiculiseren. Dus kan ik net zo goed die reptielen er bij halen. Anders vind men wel iets anders wat belachelijk is. U heeft mij slechts laten zien dat U erg bevooroordeeld bent, daar U uitspraken over iets doet, waarvan ik aanneem dat U het niet onderzocht heeft. Jammer, maar het zij zo. Ik wil niemand hier overtuigen of weet ik veel wat. Ik geef mijn mening. Net als anderen En als die teveel afwijkt roept men een psychiater! Heeft U niet door dat U zelf een intolerante wereld schept? (btw , neutron, je leek nogal verrast door mijn reptielen-'theorie' , mischien idee om de hele NWO thread eens te lezen? ![]() met vriendelijke groeten Pindar[edit] [size=1]Edit:[/size]
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