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Putin, the Pedophile?






http://www.illuminati-news.com/070806c.htm


Nuff Said

Pin d' Ar

Dit is wat Putin schijnbaar zelfs als verklaring gaf:

He was very sweet. I'll be honest, I felt an urge to squeeze him like a kitten and that led to the gesture that I made. There was nothing behind it really.”

— Vladimir Putin, the Russian president explaining why he felt compelled to kiss the bare stomach of a young boy at the Kremlin.

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Goeie vraag...hoe kan dat?
Die consistentie vind ik geen echt stevig argument...immers zijn de voorwaarden die ervoor zorgen dat die BDE's voorvallen al even consistent...het is dus mogelijk dat het één een gevolg van het andere is...en in dat geval is consistentie dan weer logisch.
Of niet?(ik ben hier niet zo in thuis)

Meestal zijn hallucinaties niet echt consistent, zelfs als zijn de voorwaarden consistent (zelfde type drugs bijvoorbeeld). Hallucinaties zijn sterk afhankelijk van de gemoedstoestand en de persoon. Bij BDE's bestaat er niet echt een verklaring waarom zo'n levendige "hallucinaties" zijn en dat ze zo gelijkaardig zijn. Bijvoorbeeld het levensoverzicht dat men krijgt (en bijna alle mensen die een BDE hebben gehad melden dit), lijkt me toch straf dat een hallucinatie is, zeker omdat zoveel mensen dit melden, en dat dit gedurderende 1000 jaren hetzelfde is ongeacht de culturele en religeuze achtergrond.

Kunnen ze zien tijdens de BDE (wanneer ze "dood" zijn?) of wanneer ze (weer) wakker zijn?
Als ze niet wakker zijn wanneer ze weer zien is het makkelijk te verklaren...ze zien immers niet echt,het zijn hun hersenen die zien en niet hun ogen...
Als ze dan weer zaken die zijn gebeurd tijdens hun BDE correct kunnen beschrijven (bvb. wat de chirurgen deden etc.),dan werpt dat natuurlijk weer een heel ander licht op de zaak...(de ogen zijn niet nodig om te zien?-wanneer het bewustzijn "ziet"?

Ze kunnen zien enkel als ze "dood" zijn en kunnen handelingen melden die de chirurg doet, net zoals sommige andere BDE'ers.

Onderstaande is een goed artikel over BDE's en OBE's.

18. Science and the Near Death Experience

'There seems little doubt that NDE's occur in all cultures and have occurred at all times through recorded history ... the NDE happens to young and old, to people from all walks of life, to those whose life has a spiritual dimension and to those who profess no faith at all ... there are many examples of people who have a NDE at a time when they did not even know that such a phenomenon existed.'

Dr Peter Fenwick

The Near Death Experience (NDE) is a powerful argument for the existence of the afterlife. As medical resuscitation techniques are being improved more and more people are being brought back from the border of clinical death. A number of them recount an intense profoundly meaningful experience in which they seem to be alive and functioning outside their body. For many, a near death experience is an extremely powerful emotional and spiritual experience.

The evidence for the NDE is consistent, overwhelming and exoteric — experienced by the many. The NDE experiential evidence is also consistent with other experiential evidence for survival — evidence which includes the OBE, information obtained from mental and physical mediums and with apparitions.

Psychics say that in a crisis situation, where death is almost inevitable or is perceived to be inevitable, the duplicate physical body, the astral or etheric body, leaves the physical body and experiences the first stages of the afterlife — see below. When death does not occur, the duplicate body resumes its place in the physical body. Skeptics say that there is no such thing as a duplicate body and whatever one experiences has to do with the problems of the physical body itself [FONT=Symbol]¾[/FONT] it's all in the mind.

Studies have shown that NDE's occurred following illness, surgery, childbirth, accident, heart attack and attempted suicide.
One pioneer in this area was a medical doctor and philosopher, Dr Raymond Moody Jr, who began his work as a skeptic and is now totally convinced of the reality of life after death. His first book Life After Life in 1975 is considered the classic work which opened this area to modern research was followed by two others in 1983 and 1988.
Since 1975 there have been many studies in ma
ny countries — so much so that there are now several international associations and journals for the investigation of near-death studies. Cherie Sutherland's excellent Australian book (1992) contains a selected bibliography of over 150 scholarly research reports.

Fifteen common elements

Moody found a striking similarity in accounts of 150 people who had these experiences — so much so that he was able to identify fifteen different elements which recur again and again in these reports. He constructed a typical experience which contains all of these elements:

A man is dying and, as he reaches the point of greatest physical distress, he hears himself pronounced dead by his doctor. He begins to hear an uncomfortable noise, a loud ringing or buzzing, and at the same time feels himself moving very rapidly through a long dark tunnel. After this he finds himself outside of his own physical body, but still in the immediate physical environment, and he sees his own body from a distance, as though he is a spectator. He watches the resuscitation attempt from this unusual vantage point and is in a state of emotional upheaval.

After a while he collects himself and becomes more accustomed to his odd condition. He notices that he still has a 'body', but one of a very different nature and with very different powers from the physical body he has left behind. Soon other things begin to happen. Others come to meet and help him. He glimpses the spirits of relatives and friends who have already died, and a loving, warm spirit of a kind he has never encountered before — a being of light — appears before him. This being asks him a question, nonverbal, to make him evaluate his life and helps him along by showing him a panoramic instantaneous playback of the major events of his life. At some point he finds himself approaching some sort of barrier or border, apparently representing the limit between earthly life and the next life. Yet, he finds that he must go back to the earth, that the time for his death has not yet come. At this point he resists, for by now he is taken up with his experiences in the afterlife and does not want to return. He is overwhelmed by intense feelings of joy, love, and peace. Despite his attitude, though, he somehow reunites with his physical body and lives.

Later he tries to tell others, but he has trouble doing so. In the first place, he can find no human words adequate to describe these unearthly experiences. He also finds that others scoff, so he stops telling other people. Still the experience affects his life profoundly, especially his view about death and its relationship to life (Moody 1975: 21-23).

Dr Kenneth Ring, who produced a scientific study of Near-Death Experiences in 1980, confirmed Dr Moody's findings but found that people went through the experience in stages and a large number of people experienced only the first ones.
Other studies by Karlis Osis and Erlendur Haraldsson (1977), Michael Sabom and Sarah Kreutziger (1976), Elisabeth Kubler-Ross (1983), Craig Lundahl (1981) and Bruce Greyson and Ian Stevenson (1980) all confirmed Moody's description.

They saw while unconscious

Dr Sabom, a Georgia cardiologist, interviewed 100 hospital patients who had narrowly escaped death. Of these 61 per cent reported experiencing classical NDE of the type closely corresponding to those published in 1975 by Moody.

Many of the patients who had been revived were able to describe in great technical detail exactly what went on in the operating room while they were supposedly unconscious or dead. Dr Sabom, investigated the hypothesis that these patients were merely using their creative imagination, or knowledge that they had subconsciously picked up through earlier exposure to emergency care.

He interviewed a group of seasoned cardiac patients who had not undergone Near-Death Experiences and asked them to imagine watching a medical team reviving a heart attack victim and to describe in as much detail as possible the steps being taken. To his surprise 80% of them misdescribed the procedures. On the other hand none of the group which claimed to have witnessed their resuscitation while out of their bodies made an error about the procedure (Sabom 1980: 120-121).

A common experience

There are now literally millions of people from all over the world who have undergone a Near-Death Experience. In 1983 a major American survey by George Gallup Jr reported that eight million Americans, approximately five per cent of the adult population, had experienced one (Gallup 1982). A 1989 Australian survey by Allan Kellehear and Patrick Heaven found that ten percent of 179 people claimed to have experienced at least five typical elements of a NDE.

Studies in widely differing geographic locations have produced remarkably similar findings eg. Margot Grey's study of NDEs in England (Grey 1985), Paola Giovetti's study in Italy (Giovetti 1982), Dorothy Counts' study in Melanesia (Counts 1983), Satwant Pasricha and Ian Stevenson's (1986) study in India. More studies are coming out from different countries on a regular basis, and historical examples show that the experience has been remarkably consistent over time (see Plato's example of Er's NDE in The Republic reprinted 1973).

Yet while these experiences have been happening throughout human history, in western culture it is only in the last twenty years that people have felt free to talk about them and the effect that they have had on their lives.

Coming back with unexplained information

There are many accounts of people having near death experiences returning with factual information which they had no prior knowledge of. These include being able to identify ancestors from pictures, learning about siblings who had died before their own birth, learning about family secrets etc. Others were able to document information they had learned about future events (see for example Eadie 1992, Brinkley 1994).

Common after-effects

Cherie Sutherland, an Australian researcher, interviewed 50 NDE survivors in depth and found that the effects on the lives of survivors had been remarkably consistent and quite different from the effects of drug or chemical induced hallucinations. She identified many effects which have been substantiated by other studies eg. Ring (1980 and 1984) Atwater
These included:

• a universal belief in life after death
• a high proportion (80%) now believed in re-incarnation
• a total absence of fear of death
• a large shift from organized religion to personal spiritual practice
• a statistically significant increase in psychic sensitivity
• a more positive view of self and of others
• an increased desire for solitude
• an increased sense of purpose
• a lack of interest in material success coupled with a marked increase in interest in spiritual development
• 50% experienced major difficulties in close relationships as a result of their changed priorities
• an increase in health consciousness
• most drank less alcohol
• almost all gave up smoking
• most gave up prescription drugs
• most watched less television
• most read fewer newspapers
• an increased interest in alternative healing
• an increased interest in learning and self-development
• 75% experienced a major career change in which they moved towards areas of helping others.

An independent American study by Dr Melvin Morse found that NDE survivors have three times the number of verifiable psychic experiences as the general population, were frequently unable to wear watches and often had electrical conduction problems such as shorting out lap top computers and erasing credit cards (Morse 1992). He also found that adults who had near-death experiences gave more money to charity than control subjects, volunteered more in the community, were more frequently involved in helping professions, did not suffer from drug abuse and ate more fresh fruit and vegetables than control populations (Morse 1992).

Alternative explanations.

Naturally, the near death experience cannot be taken simply at face value without examining alternative explanations. These include:

Are they making it up?

As stated above, those who studied the NDE — scientists, doctors, psychologists, other investigators and skeptics — all now claim with absolute certainty that the NDE does exist.
Some open-minded cardiologist investigators assumed the NDE did not exist but subsequently changed their mind. Michael Sabom, the cardiologist mentioned above, admitted that before he started to investigate he felt sure that NDEs must be 'conscious fabrications' either on the part of those reporting them or those writing about them. However, once he began to investigate he was absolutely staggered by the genuineness of the phenomena.

Another most highly credible cardiologist who was initially skeptical was Maurice Rawlings who states in his book Beyond Death's Door (1978) that he had always believed in death as total extinction until one day a forty eight year old postman dropped 'dead' in his office. As he began to resuscitate him the patient began screaming: 'I'm in Hell! Keep me out of hell!' . At first Rawlings says he told him: 'Keep your hell to yourself — I'm busy trying to save your life' but gradually he became convinced by the sheer terror of the man he was working on. So absolutely traumatic and convincing was the experience that Dr Rawlings went on to write books about it. If you accept the word of a highly credible and highly qualified cardiologist, his whole life changed after this experience.

The Pharmacological Explanation?

Some suggest that NDE's are caused by drugs administered to the patient at the time of his crisis. Drugs such as ketamine and morphine have been suggested. Moody investigated this hypothesis and rejected it (Moody 1975: 160-161). This was because many of the patients who experienced NDE's had not been given drugs, that drug-induced visions were markedly different from each other and from genuine NDE's in content and intensity and had no profound long-term effects.

LSD?

Some investigators including R K Siegel reported that some of those who have taken hallucinogenic drugs such as LSD have experiences similar to NDEs. But we are also informed that there are distinct differences between the effect of LSD and the NDE. This has been effectively dealt with by Moody and others.

Oxygen Deprivation?

It is sometimes argued that the NDE is caused by oxygen starvation and is a normal response of a 'dying brain'. However many people have experienced Near-Death Experience before there was any physiological stress and in some case when there was no physical injury at all (Moody 1975: 163). Sabom, consistent with Dr Fenwick, noted that in genuine cases of oxygen deprivation there is a 'progressive muddling and confusion of cognitive abilities' which is in direct contrast to the clarity and expansion of consciousness reported by those having a NDE (Sabom 1980:176).

Psychological Explanations?

There have been various attempts to claim that NDE's are basically 'wish fulfillment' — that you see what you have been culturally conditioned to expect. However Ring (1984) Sabom (1982) and Grosso (1981) have all found that there is no link, no correlation between religious beliefs and experience of a NDE.

Other psychologists like Uri Lowental (1981) have argued, without giving any evidence, that NDE's are 'a reliving of the birth experience'. Their hypotheses are generally considered unhelpful speculation.
Psychologists Kletti and Noyes (1981) have claimed that NDE's represent 'depersonalization and pleasurable fantasies which represent a form of psychic protection against the threat of destruction'. However this explanation has also been refuted by Gabbard and Twemlow (1981) who point out that while depersonalization usually occurs in persons between 15 and 30 it is virtually unheard of in people over 40.

Others have proposed that NDE's are forms of 'autoscopic hallucination' — a rare psychiatric disorder. However both Sabom (1982) and Gabbard and Twemlow (1981) found this implausible on the basis of a number of significant differences.

Neurophysiological Explanations?

Moody considered parallels between the past life review of NDE patients and the flashbacks experienced by people with neurological abnormalities. He concluded that both were essentially different in that whereas the flashbacks were random and of trivial events not remembered after the attack, in the life review typical of a NDE the events were in chronological order and were of highlights of the life. They were all seen at once and constituted a 'unifying vision' which gave the person insight into his life's purpose (Moody 1975: 166).

The dying brain?

Dr Peter Fenwick is a Fellow of the Royal College of Psychiatrists and a neuropsychiatrist with an international reputation — a specialist in the mind/brain interface and the problem of consciousness. He is Britain's leading clinical authority on the NDE and is President of the International Association for Near-Death Studies.

With his wife Elizabeth, also a Cambridge-trained professional scientist, Dr Peter Fenwick made a thorough investigation of the argument by skeptics and materialist psychologists that a near death experience is caused by the physiological effects of the dying brain (Fenwick 1996).
The argument by psychologists against the NDE has to be seen in the light of their very limited knowledge of the functioning of the brain. Psychologists do not have the necessary depth of academic and practical professional training of neuropsychiatrists like Dr Peter Fenwick to professionally assess the physiology of the NDE. The professional training of psychologists includes only a very basic training in physiology. A look at five standard textbooks on university Psychology shows that study of brain functioning constitutes less than 5% of the overall learning on psychology. Psychologists in training do not practice surgery, let alone the highly specialized field of human brain surgery.

Certainly, someone in the position of Dr Fenwick would have all the technical knowledge to accurately assess whether or not the NDE can be explained by what is happening in the dying brain. Dr Fenwick states that these psychologists write absolute rubbish when they venture into areas of knowledge outside their technical expertise, knowledge they don't have, don't understand and which is outside their everyday work.
He is scathing with the skeptics:

(They) just don't have the knowledge...So much rubbish is talked about Near-Death Experiences by people who don't have to deal with these things on a daily basis. So I'm absolutely sure that such experiences are not caused by oxygen shortages, endorphins or anything of that kind. And certainly none of these things would account for the transcendental quality of many of these experiences, the fact that people feel an infinite sense of loss when they leave them behind (Fenwick 1995:47).

As a consultant neuro-psychiatrist Dr Fenwick constantly works with people who are confused, disoriented and brain-damaged and he points out:

What is quite clear is that any disorientation of brain function leads to a disorientation of perception and reduced memory. You can't normally get highly-structured and clearly remembered experiences from a highly damaged or disoriented brain (Fenwick 1995:47).

He likewise refutes the endorphin argument:

As for that stuff about endorphins, we're boosting the effect they have all the time because thousands of people are given morphine every day. That certainly produces calmness, but it doesn't produce structured experiences (Fenwick 1995:47).

Closed-minded skeptics are asked to answer the following questions:

• If the NDE is the effect of a dying brain it should happen to everyone who is dying. Why is it that not all of those who are near death whose brain is 'dying' experience a NDE?
• If the NDE is wish fulfillment, why is it that not every NDE experience is a positive one? Why is it that some experience a neutral and/or a horrific negative NDE as documented by Phyllis Atwater (1994).
• If the NDE is caused by the release of endorphins, what objective evidence exists to show that the release of endorphins necessarily elicits a life review in an orderly way?
• What objective evidence exists to show that the release of endorphins leads to the breakdown of a sense of time and its relationship to 'self'?
• Why is it that nearly all experiencers of NDEs undergo a permanent transformation which is consistent with spiritual refinement, a more refined way of living?
• Why is it that most experiencers of NDEs relate their newly found intrinsic motivation to the powerful experience they had out of the body?
• What objective proof is presented to show that understanding of the role of the limbic system and temporal lobe can account for the experiences of familiarity, insight and deja vu and the statistically significant increase in psychic experiences that follow NDEs?
• How do skeptics explain the incredible consistencies between NDEs and OBEs?

Physical explanations insufficient
Elizabeth Fenwick, co-writer of the book The Truth in the Light — An investigation of Over 300 Near-Death Experiences (1996) actually began her research thinking that all could be explained in scientific terms. But, after investigating, she concluded:

While you may be able to find scientific reasons for bits of the Near-Death Experience, I can't find any explanation which covers the whole thing. You have to account for it as a package and skeptics ... simply don't do that. None of the purely physical explanations will do (Skeptics) vastly underestimate the extent to which Near-Death Experiences are not just a set of random things happening, but a highly organized and detailed affair (Fenwick 1995:47).

These views are supported by a study of Near-Death Experiences in Holland by cardiologist Dr William van Lommel and his team who studied 345 cases who would have died without resuscitation. Ten per cent recalled a substantial Near-Death Experience and a further eight percent had a less pronounced one.
These patients were compared to a control group who were identical in terms of seriousness of their illness but who had not had a Near-Death Experience. According To Dr Van Lommel (1995):

Our most striking finding was that Near-Death Experiences do not have a physical or medical root. After all, 100 per cent of the patients suffered a shortage of oxygen, 100 per cent were given morphine-like medications, 100 per cent were victims of severe stress, so those are plainly not the reasons why 18 per cent had Near-Death Experiences and 82 per cent didn't. If they had been triggered by any one of those things, everyone would have had Near-Death Experiences (Van Lommel 1995).

Similarly Yvonne Kason, a Canadian psychiatrist, has found in her clinical practice people who are not close to dying reporting near death-like experiences; these included people who thought they were about to die and people who were meditating (Kason 1994:73).
Without doubt, the near death experience together with the Out of Body Experience and with other objective evidence of the psychic phenomena presented in this work, constitute a most powerful objective argument for the afterlife.

[Pindar]

Zoals we al eerder gezegd hadden, geloof ik!!!!

Bill Gates: Satanist in Sheep's Clothing? by Dr. Henry Makow, July 08, 2006

Last Updated: Saturday, July 08, 2006 09:30:26 PM




Dr. Henry Makow



When Warren Buffet gave $31 billion to Bill Gates' Foundation last week, I assumed it would advance the New World Order. But when a reader showed me Gates' connection with the neo-pagan anti-Semitic Lucis (formerly Lucifer) Trust, I got worried.



Established by Alice Bailey in 1922, the Lucifer Publishing Company changed its name the following year for obvious reasons. Based at 120 Wall Street, the "Lucis Trust" is a vital part of the satanic cult that controls the Western world and started the New Age Movement to induct society into their Luciferian cult.




Helena Blavatsky (1831-1891) & Alice Bailey (1880-1949)



Bailey was the leader of the Theosophical Society started in 1875 by Helena Blavatsky. Theosophy is a branch of Freemasonry. According to Constance Cumbey, Theosophy spawned the occult societies that in turn created Adolf Hitler and the Nazi ideology. ("The Hidden Dangers of the Rainbow: The New Age Movement and the Coming Age of Barbarism" 1983)



In 1949, Bailey wrote that the Jewish holocaust was due to the Jews' bad karma: "the evil karma of the Jew today is intended to end his isolation, to bring him to the point of relinquishing material goals, of renouncing a nationality that has a tendency to be somewhat parasitic..." (Esoteric Healing, p. 263)



Bailey teaches that Jews are from a different solar system and that Orientals and Blacks are from a different root race. Occidental races must control the world, as they are our most evolved root race. (Cumbey, 115)



This must be of concern since a major focus of the Gates foundation is providing billions of dollars worth of vaccines to poor non-Whites in Third World countries.



The Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation has doubled in size due to the Buffet gift, and is five times larger than the US next largest Ford Foundation. The Gates Foundation is mentioned as a financial member of the Lucis subgroup, "The New Group of World Servers." ( See $$ under groups. The pictures of Nelson Mandela, Cindy Sheehan and Michael Moore are also featured on this site.)





Bill Gates is also mentioned on the Lucis Trust web site: "Through the philanthropic and humanitarian work of such people as George Soros, Bill Gates, Kofi Annan and Bono, to name just a few, people are beginning to recognise the needs of the world’s destitute people and acting to do something about them. There is talk by Soros and another thinker, James Tobin, about the creation of some type of tax upon financial transactions that would be used to support domestic programs in the developing world. Humanity surely has the ability to institute these and similar changes; it just needs the will to do so."



A tax on all financial transactions would be consistent with "The Plan" the Lucis Trust is working to implement. This begins with the proclamation of the "Maitreya," the New Age Messiah who they have been grooming for more than three decades.



According to Cumbey, who is a lawyer, the "Plan" also includes a new world government and religion under Maitreya. Other goals include a universal credit card system; an authority that would control the food supply; a universal tax; and a universal draft.

"They plan to outlaw all present religious practises and symbols of orthodox Jews and Christians," Cumbey writes. "New Agers have threatened violence and even extermination of Jews, Christians and Moslems who fail to cooperate with Maitreya and his new religion." (20)

The Theosophical Society believes Lucifer is God which they identify with the Sun. In "The Secret Doctrine" Blavatsky writes:

In this case it is but natural ... to view Satan, the Serpent of Genesis as the real creator and benefactor, the Father of Spiritual mankind.

For it is he who was the "Harbinger of Light," bright radiant Lucifer, who opened the eyes of automaton (Adam) created by Jehovah, as alleged; and he who was first to whisper, "In the day yea eat there of, ye shall be as Elohim, knowing good and evil" -- can only be regarded in the light of a Saviour. An "adversary" to Jehovah ... he still remains in esoteric truth the ever-loving "Messenger"... who conferred on us spiritual instead of physical immortality ...



Satan, or Lucifer, represents the active ... "Centrifugal Energy of the Universe" in a cosmic sense ... Fitly is he ... and his adherents ... consigned to the "sea of fire," because it is the Sun ... the fount of life in our system, where they are petrified ... and churned up to re-arrange them for another life; that Sun which, as the origin of the active principle of our Earth, is at once the Home and the Source of the Mundane Satan ...

http://www.conspiracyarchive.com/NewAge/Lucis_Trust.htm



"New Agers generally do not openly repudiate Christianity," Cumbey writes. "They redefine Christ to give pagan Gods equal time, and expand the definition of Christ to be the integral essence of themselves." (146)



While New Agers "would rightfully picket to prevent a Nazi demonstration, they fail to see that point-for-point the program of the New Age Movement has complete identity with the programs of Hitler." (56, Cumbey does the point-by-point comparison on pp.114-120)




Constance Cumbey


The "New Agers" profess a great love of peace and disarmament but Cumbey cites Bailey as saying nuclear weapons will be the preserve of the United Nations for "threatened use when aggressive action on the part of any nation rears its ugly head." (70)



Similarly, the environment and world hunger causes all have a hidden agenda. Cumbey writes that supporters of anti-hunger programs are urged to back measures for abortion, artificial insemination, forced limitation of family size, genetic control and even death control." (56)



Buffett revealed Monday "that he was a student of many of the same philanthropists that Gates modeled himself on - the oilman John D. Rockefeller, and the steel magnate Andrew Carnegie."



These "philanthropists" have used their tax exempt money to subvert Western Civilization for almost a century. For example, a Rockefeller boasted to Aaron Russo that they started feminism to get women into the workplace paying taxes, so they could indoctrinate the young. Significantly another focus of the Gates Foundation is "improving American high schools."



They are on the forefront of destroying traditional cultures by breaking up the family. They are championing "women's rights" through loans mainly to women to make them independent of men.





CONCLUSION



Western civilization has been subverted by an organized Satanic power. As I explain elsewhere, this cult is sponsored by the central banking cartel which must enslave mankind in order to consolidate its monopoly on our credit. In the bankers own terms "revolution" refers to the transfer of power to themselves. The credit check of the future may include inquiries into our religious and political views.



I prided myself on having escaped the banker's Communist hoax but I realize now that Communism was the "plan" for my parent's generation. I fell hook-line-and-sinker for the "New Age", which was aimed at my generation. It is exactly like Communism, appealing to our idealism, but having an insidious hidden agenda.



I still believe some drug experiences can open the door to mysticism and religious knowledge. God does dwell within as universal Love but the God of the Illuminati is not Love. It deifies man at his lowest not his highest. It freezes us cryogenically in our own filth.



We live in interesting times. Our mainstream leaders because have sold us out. Society has slipped the moorings of truth and is steered by megalomaniacs, perverts and criminals. Let's man the lifeboats of truth.

http://www.illuminati-news.com/070906b.htm


Pfffff wakey wakey & The truth will set you free...

But first it will make you miserable..and sick to your

stomach!!!!!!



Pin d' Ar

[exodus]

Oorspronkelijk geplaatst door Pindar

Zoals we al eerder gezegd hadden, geloof ik!!!!





http://www.illuminati-news.com/070906b.htm


Pfffff wakey wakey & The truth will set you free...

But first it will make you miserable..and sick to your

stomach!!!!!!



Pin d' Ar

Zeer interessant artikel. Lucis Trust is nog zo'n smoking gun dat het occulte aspect van de NWO gelinkt met de U.N aantoont.

[Pindar]

sorry, bericht verplaats naar "Thermiet gebruikt"
hoorde eigenlijk daar

Oorspronkelijk geplaatst door Pindar

what else is new?!

Pin d'Ar

[styllo_ben]

Oorspronkelijk geplaatst door Pindar

Bailey teaches that Jews are from a different solar system

dus ze hebben miljarden lichtjaren gereisd om uiteindelijk in de kampen van Hitler terecht te komen???

[Pindar]

Yes!! Eindelijk!!!! Pffffff

RFID Tag, for the Kiddies


One thing is for sure: The amusement parks and the beaches, etc., will be a paradise for pedophiles and other creeps. With the kids running free, all they have to do is to cut off the wristband and kidnap the child. The parents think the kid is sitting still somewhere safe. Even if the wristbands are made in hard-to-cut-through material, anyone can still kidnap the kid and do whatever they want to do before the kid is even missed, or anyone is getting suspicious.

Great idea, isn't it? Not even the propaganda works, does it? Isn't it pretty obvious that there is a hidden agenda behind this? I hope people are not so stupid that they buy into this, but continue being parents and take responsibility for their kids. Wes Penre, www.illuminati-news.com.







ust like squirrels and boars in the wild, overbearing parents can now tag their own children with RFID wristbands. This amusement-park kiosk system is called SafeTzone and lets parents give their children RFID wristbands that can track the tyke's every movement. The wristbands also work as debit cards so you can load up the wristband with money and have the day to yourself. Isn't technology great? It's like a free babysitter!

http://www.illuminati-news.com/070906d.htm


Pin d'Ar

[Antoon]

Oorspronkelijk geplaatst door styllo_ben

dus ze hebben miljarden lichtjaren gereisd om uiteindelijk in de kampen van Hitler terecht te komen???

[malinois]

Oorspronkelijk geplaatst door Lex Blanca

Dus...de wereld is in de macht van een selecte elite die de wereld sturen en trachten deze volledig in hun macht te krijgen?


(...)
Ik denk dat je gewoon een verkeerd beeld hebt van hetgeen we bedoelen met occult en satanisme...diezelfde occulte Luciferiaanse fetish van de elite vindt men echter doorheen de geschiedenis terug...al duizenden jaren.

Je gaat hier dus niet mee akkoord,maar wel met de rest wat we zeggen?

Het enige waar ik me akkoord ga is dit (ik zal het nog eens herhalen):

"De kapitalistische hegemonie, de neoliberale globalisering van de economie heeft inderdaad zijn invloed te danken aan een wisselwerking tussen de politiek-militaire dominantie van de USA en de hoge ambities en machtsinstrumenten van de internationale bankiers."

De rest van het zogenaamde NWO-verhaal is speculatie van overspannen of onvolwassen zielen die de wereldgeschiedenis herleiden tot een James-Bondverhaaltje. Dat is tenminste wat ik geleerd heb uit de meer dan 6100 posts van deze "discussie". Puur tijdverlies was dat. Maar wat belet u om daar nog jaren mee door te gaan? Herkauw die onzin maar tot u erbij neervalt, voor steeds minder lezers...

[malinois]

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Wie zijn de oprichters van de verenigde naties? Diegene die een wereld order willen. Bush zegt het hier openlijk.

Diegenen die zoals de schijnbaar onnozele en politiek-naïeve Bush (beweren te) pleiten voor een New World Order, willen de wereld ook in andere sprookjes doen geloven, ze prediken bijvoorbeeld dat de USA door dik en dun door ene God gezegend wordt en dat de vijanden van de USA de vijanden van de democratie zijn.
Praatjes voor de vaak, dat weet toch iedereen die de internationale politiek een beetje volgt.
Normaal zijn de 9/11-believers toch niet zo geneigd om geloof te hechten aan de bakerpraatjes waarmee Bush zijn onderdanen en de rest van de wereld in slaap probeert te wiegen?
Als Bush voor de camera's en de micro's van de wereldpers iets positiefs zegt over de VN is dat toch maar alleen omdat de USA zich geen openlijke kritiek op het vredesideaal van de meeste wereldburgers kan permitteren.

Diplomatieke lippendienst in dienst van de USA-belangen. Meer is dat niet.

[Lex Blanca]

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Het enige waar ik me akkoord ga is dit (ik zal het nog eens herhalen):

"De kapitalistische hegemonie, de neoliberale globalisering van de economie heeft inderdaad zijn invloed te danken aan een wisselwerking tussen de politiek-militaire dominantie van de USA en de hoge ambities en machtsinstrumenten van de internationale bankiers."

Wie zorgt voor de poolitiek-militaire dominantie van de VS denk je?
(en stuurt het VS beleid)

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De rest van het zogenaamde NWO-verhaal is speculatie van overspannen of onvolwassen zielen die de wereldgeschiedenis herleiden tot een James-Bondverhaaltje. Dat is tenminste wat ik geleerd heb uit de meer dan 6100 posts van deze "discussie". Puur tijdverlies was dat. Maar wat belet u om daar nog jaren mee door te gaan? Herkauw die onzin maar tot u erbij neervalt, voor steeds minder lezers...

Als dit een weerspiegeling is van je observatieve vermogen zit je er allicht met je stelling opver de speculatie en tijdverlies evenzeer naast als,immers zit je er met je slotzin volledig naast.Steeds meer mensen lezen en informeren over de NWO.
(ik vind het ook erg zwak van je dat je negatief uithaalt en daarbij weer alles over NWO op dezelfde hoop gooit...)

Overigens,dat van dat occulte en de zonaanbidding...de zonaanbidding of het Luciferianisme is duidelijk te constateren door de eeuwen heen in zowel de Rooms-Katholieke Kerk als de elitaire geheime genootschappen,evenals in symboliek de wereld rond.Dat valt geenszins te ontkennen en toch doe je het.

[Lex Blanca]

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Als Bush voor de camera's en de micro's van de wereldpers iets positiefs zegt over de VN is dat toch maar alleen omdat de USA zich geen openlijke kritiek op het vredesideaal van de meeste wereldburgers kan permitteren.

Diplomatieke lippendienst in dienst van de USA-belangen. Meer is dat niet.

Geenszins,Bush wil net zoals de meesten in de machtspositie waarin hij zich bevindt meer dan enkel VS.
We komen overigens weer bij de Internationale Bankiers terecht,die duidelijk meer willen dan enkel VS.Als de Bushes (die ingehuwd zijn in een internationale bankiersfamilie-Harriman;van Brown-Brothers & Harriman) (bvb.) echt VS zou willen dienen zouden ze doen wat Kennedy deed (geld laten maken door VS en niet door de internationale bankiers) i.p.v. mee te helpen de schuldenlast van VS die hen vroeg of laat nekt te vergroten door zijn land in oorlogen te liegen.

[malinois]

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Overigens,dat van dat occulte en de zonaanbidding...de zonaanbidding of het Luciferianisme is duidelijk te constateren door de eeuwen heen in zowel de Rooms-Katholieke Kerk als de elitaire geheime genootschappen,evenals in symboliek de wereld rond.Dat valt geenszins te ontkennen en toch doe je het.

Door dat soort Pindar-onzin alsmaar te herhalen, blijft u zich belachelijk maken. Maar ik hou u niet tegen.

Ik vermoed dat u op het gebied van lectuur een piepjonge allesvreter bent. Dat is op zichzelf niet erg. Vele intelligente mensen zijn zo begonnen. (Wat uiteraard niet wil zeggen dat alle piepjonge allesvreters tot intelligente mensen uitgegroeid zijn.)

[malinois]

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Geenszins,Bush wil net zoals de meesten in de machtspositie waarin hij zich bevindt meer dan enkel VS.
We komen overigens weer bij de Internationale Bankiers terecht,die duidelijk meer willen dan enkel VS.Als de Bushes (die ingehuwd zijn in een internationale bankiersfamilie-Harriman;van Brown-Brothers & Harriman) (bvb.) echt VS zou willen dienen zouden ze doen wat Kennedy deed (geld laten maken door VS en niet door de internationale bankiers) i.p.v. mee te helpen de schuldenlast van VS die hen vroeg of laat nekt te vergroten door zijn land in oorlogen te liegen.

Mij interesseren Bushes familiebanden niet. Binnen 10 jaar, als het niet vroeger is, zal wel blijken hoe onbelangrijk de huidige USA-president en zijn vader wel zijn.
Hoe dan ook.
Wat Bush junior allemaal uitkraamt, o.a. over de NWO, waarover hij vermoedelijk een aartsconservatief opstelletje heeft gelezen, wie weet geschreven door een compaan van zijn universiteitsclubje (het pseudo geheimzinnige "skull and bones") of over de VN, die hij feitelijk in navolging van zijn spindoctors diep verafschuwt, heeft toch weinig historische waarde.

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dus ze hebben miljarden lichtjaren gereisd om uiteindelijk in de kampen van Hitler terecht te komen???

Het valt niet te ontkennen dat het occulte aspect een enorm belangrijke invloed heeft gehad op de beslissingen van Hilter, en het verloop van de geschiedenis in het algmeen. Hitler was een adept van de Thule genootschap. Ook de fetisj van Hitler met de Arier kwam voort uit occulte leer. Hitler wou de Arische bloedlijn terug oprichten, hij geloofde dat Ariers buitenaardsen waren afkomstig van het verzonken continent atlantis, en dat ze door zich te vermengen met de aardse mens hun bloedlijn en oorsprong vergeten waren.

Dit hoor je natuurlijk niet in de geschiedenisboeken.

[exodus]

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De rest van het zogenaamde NWO-verhaal is speculatie van overspannen of onvolwassen zielen die de wereldgeschiedenis herleiden tot een James-Bondverhaaltje. Dat is tenminste wat ik geleerd heb uit de meer dan 6100 posts van deze "discussie". Puur tijdverlies was dat. Maar wat belet u om daar nog jaren mee door te gaan? Herkauw die onzin maar tot u erbij neervalt, voor steeds minder lezers...

Dit is enkel je mening. Wat jij niet doet is de feiten checken. Omdat je denkt dat het bullshit is. Veel valt er met jou dan niet te discussieren, want je bent gelimiteerd door ideëen die voor jou "redelijk" klinken.

We vragen constant van de feiten te checken, en toch doet men het niet. Omdat men denkt dat men de waarheid wel ongeveer weet. Tja.

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Diegenen die zoals de schijnbaar onnozele en politiek-naïeve Bush (beweren te) pleiten voor een New World Order, willen de wereld ook in andere sprookjes doen geloven, ze prediken bijvoorbeeld dat de USA door dik en dun door ene God gezegend wordt en dat de vijanden van de USA de vijanden van de democratie zijn.
Praatjes voor de vaak, dat weet toch iedereen die de internationale politiek een beetje volgt.
Normaal zijn de 9/11-believers toch niet zo geneigd om geloof te hechten aan de bakerpraatjes waarmee Bush zijn onderdanen en de rest van de wereld in slaap probeert te wiegen?
Als Bush voor de camera's en de micro's van de wereldpers iets positiefs zegt over de VN is dat toch maar alleen omdat de USA zich geen openlijke kritiek op het vredesideaal van de meeste wereldburgers kan permitteren.

Diplomatieke lippendienst in dienst van de USA-belangen. Meer is dat niet.

Je zit vast in het systeem dat alle landen zouden beslissingen nemen die hun eigen soevereiniteit ten goede komen. Dit is op bepaalde punten misschien zo, maar als we spreken over de top kan je het wel vergeten.

[Lex Blanca]

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Door dat soort Pindar-onzin alsmaar te herhalen, blijft u zich belachelijk maken. Maar ik hou u niet tegen.

...de zonaanbidding of het Luciferianisme is duidelijk te constateren door de eeuwen heen in zowel de Rooms-Katholieke Kerk als de elitaire geheime genootschappen,evenals in symboliek de wereld rond.

Dat is geen onzin,misschien moet je er eens wat meer over lezen vooraleer je mensen die dat wel gedaan hebben belachelijk noemt.

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Ik vermoed dat u op het gebied van lectuur een piepjonge allesvreter bent. Dat is op zichzelf niet erg. Vele intelligente mensen zijn zo begonnen. (Wat uiteraard niet wil zeggen dat alle piepjonge allesvreters tot intelligente mensen uitgegroeid zijn.)

Wat bedoel je met piepjong en allervreter?
Ik denk niet dat ik daartoe behoor.

[Lex Blanca]

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Mij interesseren Bushes familiebanden niet. Binnen 10 jaar, als het niet vroeger is, zal wel blijken hoe onbelangrijk de huidige USA-president en zijn vader wel zijn.

Wat is dit nu voor bizarre (doch veelzeggende) reactie.
Als ze (door huwelijken) familie zijn van de internationale bankiers en dan liegen om oorlogen te voeren die de schuld van de natie groter maakt...dat lijkt me eerder een sterke indicatie dat ze VS niet zo genegen zijn als jij hier komt te beweren.(van die uiterstbelangrijke elitaire link zeg jij:dat interesseert me niet...en je denkt toch een correct oordeel te kunnen vormen)

Waarom?De koers die ze varen is in beide gevallen toch belangrijk?Ook als wat zij nu doen VS niet ten goede komt...

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De waarheid over de rol van de president van de V.S. Als de maintream media roept dat de president van de V.S de machtigste man ter wereld is, dan zouden we eens goed moeten lachen.

The great innovative thinker R. Buckminster Fuller also came to understand that the United States is ruled by powerful men behind the scenes. "The USA is not run by its would-be 'democratic' government," he wrote shortly before his death in 1983. "Nothing could be more pathetic than the role that has to be played by the President of the United States, whose power is approximately zero. Nevertheless, the news media and most over-thirty-years-of-age USA citizens carry on as if the President has supreme power."