De nieuwe wereld orde

[Lex Blanca]

Oorspronkelijk geplaatst door IlluSionS667

Is het boek van Loef eigenlijk nog ergens te koop? Zijn haar uitspraken ergens online te vinden? Ik zou graag haar beweringen wat gedetailleerder onder de loep willen nemen.

Is Getuige X1 niet gewoon in de bib te huur? Ik dacht dat dat vroeger het geval was, maar weet het niet 100% zeker. Al eens gevraagd in een boekhandel of je het boek kan bestellen?

[Lex Blanca]

Oorspronkelijk geplaatst door Firestone

Vraag 2:
Wat is een "crypto Jew"?

Met een crypto-Jew wordt volgens mij bedoeld dat ze in het geheim Joods zijn of de Joodse godsdienst beoefenen, maar zich naar de buitenwereld anders profileren. Ik heb iets met crypto moeten leren voor het examen Nederlands en dit is wat ik ervan maak. (het wordt min of meer bevestigd door wat googlen)

Zie bvb. hier: (http://www.xs4all.nl/~pvrooden/Peter/nrc/nrc69.htm)
"Men verdacht sommige nakomelingen van joden van crypto-judaïsme. Uiterlijk zouden zij zich aan het katholicisme conformeren, terwijl ze innerlijk aan het jodendom vasthielden."


(Overigens ben ik ook wel benieuwd naar de antwoorden op de vragen die je stelt...)

[willem1940NLD]

De benaming "crypto-Jew" trof ik totnogtoe alleen aan met betrekking tot Atatürk, van wie in ieder geval de vader Joods was.

[Lex Blanca]

Oorspronkelijk geplaatst door willem1940NLD

De benaming "crypto-Jew" trof ik totnogtoe alleen aan met betrekking tot Atatürk, van wie in ieder geval de vader Joods was.

Je komt het wel vaker tegen, maar meestal klopt het helemaal niet.
(in het geval Ataturk blijkbaar wel)

[Pindar]

a brrrrrr

It's OK to kill millions in Iraq, Saddam did it too - Bush's spokesman
'US President George W. Bush's spokesman yesterday defended the killing of nearly a million civilians in Iraq on the basis that Saddam Hussein did the same. "Many have died, and hundreds of thousands died under the previous regime," Tony Snow told reporters at a White House press briefing on the issue hundreds of thousands of civilians being killed by the occupation. "This is a place that has too long been wracked by violence".'

http://pressesc.com/01182440979_its_...aqis_tony_snow

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[Pindar]

here we cooommmeeee

The New World Order Tracking Device: RFIDBy Mick Meaney
RINF Alternative News

The Bermuda Government are issuing vehicle owners with credit card sized stickers containing a RFID chip and it is expected that every vehicle in Bermuda will carry one within a year or two.

The scheme is mandatory and a $10,000 penalty applies if owners remove the chips.

The first country to back the system was Singapore, well known for its lack of human rights.

RFID readers are being placed in telephone poles and buildings throughout Bermuda, which enable authorities to monitor the past and present location of vehicles and record the speed at which they are travelling.

The information is being sent to high speed computers that calculate everything you could possibly imagine about a travellers journey, even the route taken.

It is planned that the computer will compile a list of driving offences within the past 24 hours and will automatically pass this information on to the police.

Roger Crombie, a Bermuda resident and victim of RFID vehicle tracking said: “It should be stated that Dr. Brown, the Transport Minister who introduced this system, has said that he does not intend the chip to be used for any purpose other than tracking down drivers whose vehicles are not registered. I believe he means it, but it is not Dr. Brown’s intentions we have to worry about. It will take time to put the system in place, and Dr. Brown has said that he does not intend to stay in power forever.

“The person to worry about is the Premier who succeeds Dr. Brown, or the one who succeeds that one. The chip system is the perfect method for keeping close track of citizens, a dictator’s dream,” said concerned citizen Mr. Crombie.

Similar RFID systems are being used in New York and London, which has reduced traffic and cut business profits by 40%.

The use of RFID chips are increasing around the world at an astonishing rate, with continuous promotion from New World Order heavyweights including the Bush Administration and also from the VeriChip Corp, who manufacture human implantable chips and have been pushing for RFID chips to be tested on the U.S. military.

We have already seen the use of RFID being used in unethical ways that not only strip away personal privacy but also personal freedoms, removing the right to refuse the chips.

In just the past few weeks alone we have seen:

Microchip implants being tested on Alzheimer’s patients
RFID implants for workers
The combination RFID and Wi-Fi to Track Students
Used to track 2,500 staff in London
Over 500,000 UK bins use the digital spies
These are just some of the more recent uses, and right now as RFID implants are being sold to the America’s youth as time saving, trendy devices that will impress your friends, development and use of these chips show no signs of slowing down.

http://rinf.com/alt-news/new-world-o...vice-rfid/558/

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[Pindar]

well, well, well

Chaos In The New World Order
Peter Zaza

June 19, 2007
Chaos En Novus Ordo Seclorum

"Make me one with everything" - Buddhist in a pizza parlour

Unification of Europe was first - now the North American Union is in full swing - replete with fuzzy, double-speak, feel good names like Harmonization, Deep Integration, Free Trade, Security and Prosperity Partnership Agreement, etc. These measures, based on negating geopolitical boundaries and securing monopolistic markets, will ultimately lead to the clash of cultures, as has already begun. Of course the elite will have a solution for the Hegelian problem they created, namely, a new world order – with themselves as puppet masters pulling our strings.

"For more than a century ideological extremists at either end of the political spectrum have seized upon well-publicized incidents such as my encounter with Castro to attack the Rockefeller family for the inordinate influence they claim we wield over American political and economic institutions. Some even believe we are part of a secret cabal working against the best interests of the United States, characterizing my family and me as "internationalists" and of conspiring with others around the world to build a more integrated global political and economic structure - one world, if you will. If that's the charge, I stand guilty, and I am proud of it." - David Rockefeller 2002 autobiography Memoirs

There is a small, but powerful group of individuals who are the architects and instigators behind the formation and implementation of the New World Order. Their plans represent a consciously organized attempt to bring about an end to national sovereignty and western democracy.

"David Rockefeller is the most conspicuous representative today of the ruling class, a multinational fraternity of men who shape the global economy and manage the flow of its capital. Rockefeller was born to it, and he has made the most of it. But what some critics see as a vast international conspiracy, he considers a circumstance of life and just another day's work... In the world of David Rockefeller it's hard to tell where business ends and politics begins" - Bill Moyers

Their motivations are the age old human traits of greed and power – their instruments of control include the monopolization of corporate interests and banking, influence of political power, enforcement of laws utilizing a ruthless and centralized military, the manipulation of opinion engendered through academic circles, and the control of mainstream media which provides the necessary propaganda tool to shape public consciousness.

"We are grateful to the Washington Post, the New York Times, Time magazine and other great publications whose directors have attended our meetings and respected the promises of discretion for almost forty years. It would have been impossible for us to develop our plan for the world if we had been subject to the bright lights of publicity during those years. But, the world is now more sophisticated and prepared to march towards a world-government. The supranational sovereignty of an intellectual elite and world bankers is surely preferable to the National autodetermination practiced in past centuries" - David Rockefeller - address to a Trilateral Commission

North America is being transformed from three distinct countries - Canada, USA and Mexico, into a single economic entity called the North American Union. The creation of this new state is being implemented by stealth, virtually without opposition, and in front of an unwitting population.

"The unaware are unaware that they are unaware" - Bo Britz

The method of enforcement for the North American Union is a police state. Under the guise of keeping us all safe with anti-terrorist laws, citizens will lose their civil liberties preventing any dissent against Big Brother.

"Terrorism is the best political weapon for nothing drives people harder than a fear of sudden death." - Adolf Hitler

"There ought to be limits to freedom" - GW Bush

Learning the truth about 9/11, and its integral part in the formation of the new world order, helps us to understand the concepts and objectives of the globalists. Just as this event has been used to justify such horrific acts of aggression and suppression of freedoms, we can use it to expose those who are truly responsible, and start to heal the deep wounds afflicted by such aberrations of humanity.

The ruling elite do not care about human rights, or true democracy, indeed, these values stand in the way of achieving their goals. For the current cabal, the end justifies the means, as vividly demonstrated by the events of 9/11, Afghanistan and Iraq, just to name the most obvious. Their objectives must be implemented with the use of corruption and deceit, simply because nobody would willingly vote for the kind of world they are trying to build.

"We are on the verge of a global transformation. All we need is the right major crisis and the nations will accept the New World Order." - David Rockefeller

I remember going to the annual exhibition in Toronto as a kid. Inside a tent this magician was waving handkerchiefs over a girl who appeared to be suspended in mid air in front of him. Because I knew that humans could not just float above the ground, I was intrigued and determined to get as close as possible, and really look at what they were doing. Sure enough, the loose drapery hanging off the table at the back concealed, upon closer scrutiny, a protruding steel bar which held up the woman. I couldn't help but think-as I stepped once again to the back of the tent, a throng of people now in front of me-this is actually a really good trick, as long as you don't look too close or think too hard.

That's how I feel about 9-11. Nice try, fellas. You gave us a good dog & pony show-lots of fireworks; a quick and ready story filled with a cast of radical Muslim villains, all prepackaged for us to hate; and this guy with a beard in a cave, who can play evil mind-tricks from across the ocean-but the jig is up. And please don't think I'm being flippant or disrespectful to the many lives that have been so tragically taken through this horrendous act and all its subsequent horrors.

"The lie can be maintained only for such time as the State can shield the people from the political, economic and/or military consequences of the lie. It thus becomes vitally important for the State to use all of its powers to repress dissent, for the truth is the mortal enemy of the lie, and thus by extension, the TRUTH becomes the greatest ENEMY OF THE STATE." - Dr. Joseph M. Goebbels

Once we expose the fraudulence of 9/11, the entire globalist agenda will tumble like a house of cards, or in this case, a "twin tower". Understanding this event within its greater context, we can pull the lynch-pin on the plans for the North American Union, and generate some much needed chaos in the new world order.

"Three things cannot long be hidden-the sun, the moon, and the truth" – Confucius

Look up and down the streets where you live. The vast majority of people in this country, and around the world, are just honest, hard working individuals who want to build a life for themselves, raise their families and enjoy their customs.

"There's no way to rule innocent men. The only power any government has is the power to crack down on criminals. Well, when there aren't enough criminals, one "makes" them. One declares so many things to be a crime that it becomes impossible for men to live without breaking laws. Who wants a nation of law-abiding citizens? What's there in that for anyone? But just pass the kind of laws that can neither be observed nor enforced nor objectively interpreted -- and you create a nation of law-breakers-and then you cash in on the guilt." - Ayn Rand, "Atlas Shrugged"

Although most people are not conscious of the subtle and the not-so-subtle mechanisms of social conditioning we are bombarded with on a daily basis, rest assured the elite in charge have an agenda, a timetable, and the means with which to execute their objectives.

"A nation of sheep will beget a government of wolves" - Edward R. Murrow

Here are just some of the documented features and objectives of the North American Union:


- Development of a common security perimeter by 2010

- Implementation of a North American Border Pass with biometric identifiers

- Unification of the border and expanded US controlled customs facilities

- A single economic space that shares a common external tariff

- A North American currency replacing the dollar and the peso that will be called the amero

- Seamless movement of goods within North America

- Labour mobility between Canada and the U.S.

- A North American energy strategy as a regional alternative to Kyoto

- A North American regulatory plan that includes "open skies and open roads"

- A unified approach on food, health, and the environment

- A permanent tribunal for trade and investment disputes

- An annual North American summit meeting

- Scholarships to Centers for North American Studies

- The NAFTA superhighway, a north-south interstate trade corridor linking Mexico, Canada and the U.S. The NAFTA superhighway will bypass U.S. entryways and allow global conglomerates to capitalize by exploiting cheap labour, bypassing local union considerations, and exposing the entire continent to potential security risks.

NAFTA , SPP, GATT, WTO and other trade agreements are the means by which the globalist political regime have expanded into North America. Different from the IMF, which can wield its power through financial dispensations to third world countries, these trade agreements supersede local regulatory powers, and through the force of national law, ensure that transnational interests are in a sense codified into each constitutional framework.

Opponents to the NAU include progressives in all three countries who believe the union would be detrimental to the average citizen. Chief among their many concerns is the loss of sovereignty and democracy, the relinquishment of authority to unelected corporations with privately contracted law enforcement, and the displacement of a workforce due to an influx of immigrants.

So what can we do? Many things. We have incredible power in our numbers and in our potential economic influence. The system would collapse without our cooperation. What we lack is the solidarity of purpose, and organization of our huge numbers.

"A nation of well-informed men, who have been taught to know and prize the rights that God has given them cannot be enslaved. It is in the region of ignorance that tyranny begins!" - Benjamin Franklin

We are living in a critical time of change, our number one weapon in this new age is our understanding of the forces set to control us, and an effective response in great numbers from people willing to assert their independence and freedom - there was once a great country built on such ideals.

"Suddenly the whole world is not enough punishment for the wicked, nor reward for the good" - Taoist saying

We live within a duality of perception every moment. Within rages the battle of desire and reality, while on the outside, the ancient struggle between those who would work for the benefit of society, through peace, and those forces set upon exploiting others for profit and control, through destruction. Alone, we have the responsibility to assert our complete sovereignty first as individuals, and by extension of ourselves, to the greater group of which we are all a part.

Unification does not have to mean deceit and tyranny. National identities and human rights can be maintained while we come together on many things that might benefit us all. Just as we must accept the inner conflicts that cause us to adjust our desires, and with the right choices lead to a reinvention of ourselves in order to adapt, we also must recognize and challenge those external forces that would promote marginalization and exclusion of others, and create struggles that would constrain us in our inevitable choice between good and evil, and ultimately our ability to survive.

A native American grandfather was talking to his grandson about how he felt. He said 'I feel as if I have two wolves fighting in my heart. One wolf is the vengeful, angry, violent one. The other wolf is the loving, compassionate one.' The grandson asked him, 'Which wolf will win the fight in your heart?' The grandfather answered: 'The one I feed.' - Native American Story

On the grand chessboard of the power elite in this world, we may only represent insignificant entities, insofar as we are concerned as individuals. However, when considered as a group, we can have considerable influence. Our strength in numbers only serves our cause to the detriment when we blindly live our lives as revenue generating hunks of flesh that serve as an economic engine for the ruling class - it is our ignorance that works against us. When we are illuminated with the light of truth and understanding, we can then use that power to influence the course of events and make the big machine grind to a halt, or at least cause a few gold hubcaps to fly off. All this can be accomplished through non-violent means, lest we sink to the level of our enemies, in which case we risk becoming that which we oppose.

"Because we are part of one existence, whomsoever you are hurting, you are hurting yourself in the long run. Today you may not realize it, but one day when you become more aware; then you will say, 'My God! This wound was inflicted by me -- upon myself.' You had hurt somebody else thinking that people are different. Nobody is different. This whole existence is one, cosmic unity. Out of this understanding comes non-violence." - Osho

There is room for everyone in this world. My beliefs tell me that every human dynamic resolves from its highest intellectual level down to understanding and compassion. I know in my heart that we could be caring enough to engender a consciousness where there is consideration for all people on this earth. And I know if we use our heads, we could be creative and resourceful enough to find a way to do it while abolishing the act of war itself.

That would be my New World Order.

"If one has a self - it is impossible to achieve the great oneness" - Taoist saying

http://www.americanchronicle.com/art...rticleID=30008

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[Pindar]

de agenda is zooooo doorzichtig:

Don't forget important step to protect your pet

SEATTLE - Wouldn't it be nice if lost dogs and cats could tell you where they live? Those with a microchip implanted can, as long as the chip is current.


Most pet owners know it's best to have your dog or cat micro-chipped, so that if he ever runs away or is lost, that chip tells his finder where he belongs.

It's a simple process to implant the chip in your pet; just a quick stick with a hypodermic needle. The microchip is barely larger than a grain of rice.

Getting the microchip inserted is step one, and then sending in the registry is step 2 to make sure your pet's protected. That's where a number of pet owners fail to follow through -- they don't call, or mail or go on-line to register.

Your dog could end up with, for example, a microchip that lists a Seattle pet store, but they won't know who bought him.

If your pet's chip is registered, make sure you update it if you get a new phone number or move. Also, when you go on vacation, make sure your pet sitter is linked to the chip.

Pam Tate always takes that into consideration.

"You know I'll go on vacation and leave him with a friend and everything and you think you're leaving your pet in good hands but you know they can run away and things can happen, so you want to make sure that everything's updated," she said.

The King County Animal Shelter has three dogs right now that are micro-chipped, but none of the chips contains any useful information.

One Shiatsu's owner is missing in action. Someone found him in Covington and turned him into the animal shelter. He's micro-chipped, but there's no information on the chip.

The King County shelter's also trying to find the owners of a husky, found in Burien. He's 8 and has only three legs. His chip has information on it, but the phone number is disconnected.

Same story on a little Chihuahua at the Seattle Animal Shelter. Bella was found in the Northgate area and the phone numbers for her owner are out of service. (See photos of found dogs at the bottom of this story.)

Pam Tate took her dog Jet's registry one step further after hearing the horror story of someone's dog being put down because the owner was out of town.

"I immediately, when I heard about that, went to the shelter, where I adopted him and updated the vet's info in there and everything," she said.

Several dog owners also said they use Home Again chips and that service also offers a kind of Amber Alert for lost dogs

http://www.komotv.com/news/8135492.html

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[Pindar]

this:

Hitachi Introduces Mind Control Device

By Hiroko Tabuchi
AP
06/22/07 8:30 AM PT

Hitachi has developed a technology to allow users to control devices by thinking. The system is currently being used to move a toy train back and forth, but the company and other manufacturers see a future for it in TV remote controls, cars and artificial limbs. A key advantage to Hitachi's technology is that sensors don't have to physically enter the brain.

and then this:

Japanese Brain Device
The Japanese have invented a device that can be worn on the head and enables children to remote control toys from a distance. It sens an infrared light through the brain to read blood flow.



The next phase is to create an adult headpiece that can be used to control computers, TVs and other devices. of course, the device can be used 2 ways--commands flowing IN as well as out.

http://www.technewsworld.com/story/7...l-Device.xhtml


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[Pindar]

they ARE coming out of the closet!!

Girl ‘Satanists’ arrested
BY FRANCIS TAYANJAH-PHIRI
11:05:27 - 22 June 2007

The police in Mzuzu have arrested and released on bail two schoolgirls who allegedly recruited another girl to join the Satanism cult.

The girls, names withheld, aged 13 and 14, were arrested on Tuesday after their friend, a daughter to a police officer revealed how they initiated her into Satanism.

The 13-year-old girl is a Standard 8 pupil at Katoto Primary School, while the 14-year-old girl and the initiate are both in Form 1 at one of the private secondary schools in Mzuzu.

It is alleged that the recruit, 14, name also withheld, was a good friend to the two and due to their closeness was introduced into the Satanism cult.

Mzuzu Police spokesperson Edward Longwe while confirming the arrest of the two, was however noncommittal on allegations that the girl, who disclosed and complained in the case, was a policeman’s daughter.

“I cannot give details on the identities of the girls involved, be it those who were arrested or the complainant. However, it is true that we arrested and have just given bail to two girls aged 13 and 14 on allegations that they introduced their friend to Satanism,” said Longwe.

He said the two girls have been charged with conduct likely to cause breach of peace, following the disclosure of their friend that she was taught Satanism and forced to kill her father.

Longwe also confirmed that after being inducted into the Satanism cult, the girl was told to kill a parent she loved most.

“It is also true that she said in her statement that after she refused killing her father, she was ordered to kill 20 of her relatives, which sparked enormous fear in her. She then reported the issue to her church minister, who in turn reported to her parents and consequently the police,” said Longwe.

It is alleged that the new recruit disclosed to both police and church minister that after being initiated through her two colleagues, she used to be taken to different places including under the sea.

“Of course, I cannot disclose everything that you are asking or want to know because this issue involves juveniles and also because investigations are still ongoing. However, shortly the matter will be taken to court for trial,” said Longwe.

Meanwhile, a swoop by the Immigration officers netted 45 foreigners operating businesses and working illegally in Mzuzu.

The exercise, which started late Tuesday night, resulted in the arrest of 19 Tanzanians, two Pakistanis, 13 Indians, one South African and one Chinese national, at least by close of business on Wednesday.

A continuation of the exercise Thursday yielded nine more arrests for foreigners who had no proper documentation necessitating their stay in Malawi.

Northern Regional Immigration Officer Selwin Simfukwe confirmed the development in an interview Thursday.

“It is really true we are carrying out the exercise and so far we have netted the said figures. However, after sorting out those arrested, on Wednesday we released eight while we are yet to sort out those we have netted today(Thursday),” said Simfukwe.

He said they had initiated the exercise after a tip from the public that people of different foreign nationalities were operating businesses or getting employed by fellow foreigners without permits.

A visit by the The Daily Times crew to the Immigration offices Thursday saw scores of people of Asian nationalities in the corridors trying to earn freedom for their relatives or workers, currently remanded at Mzuzu Prison.

Simfukwe said it was necessary that the foreigners staying illegally in Malawi be flushed out because it was against the law for one to work or operate businesses without proper documents.

“Some of those we netted in the swoop, especially those of Asian origin, were working in shops of their countrymen without resident or work permits. Actually, it is surprising that some of these foreign businessmen bring their workers from outside without first processing necessary legal permits,” he said.

He said the country’s laws require that processing of such documents is done before the said employee or businessman comes to stay in the country.

“The law actually requires that the posts that employers should apply permits for foreign employees should be those requiring specialised skills and not just any. This is not what was the case with those we netted in the exercise, we don’t believe their jobs are specialised,” said Simfukwe.

He said the same applies to foreign business investors who are required to have a capital of not less than US$50,000.

Simfukwe said those netted doing businesses in Mzuzu do not qualify for that, hence the decision to repatriate them.

http://www.dailytimes.bppmw.com/arti...ArticleID=5297

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[Pindar]

kijk eens aan! Er is dus nog hoop!

Campaign to outlaw sweetener in schools



Food Safety campaigners are calling for a ban on diet drinks and other artificially sweetened products in schools after a Wellington woman said she was poisoned by sugar-free chewing gum.

http://www.stuff.co.nz/stuff/4103696a11.html


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[Pindar]

wow!

'Mile-high UFO' spotted by British airline pilot


06/22/2007 --
What's white, glows, is a mile wide and flies?

That's what the pilot and passengers of a British jetliner want to know after they reported seeing an unidentified flying object fitting that description outside their aircraft windows over the Channel Islands.

The craft is allegedly one of the largest UFOs ever seen, the Evening Standard reported Friday.



Citing an official air-miss report on the incident several weeks ago in Pilot magazine, the newspaper stated that Aurigny Airlines Capt. Ray Bowyer first caught sight of the object while flying close to Alderney , one of several islands in the English Channel located off the Normandy coast.

Bowyer described the object as “a cigar-shaped brilliant white light.”

"It was a very sharp, thin yellow object with a green area," Bowyer, 50, told the Evening Standard, noting that he used a pair of binoculars to view the flying craft more closely. "It was 2,000 feet up and stationary. I thought it was about 10 miles away, although I later realized it was approximately 40 miles from us.

"At first, I thought it was the size of a [Boeing] 737, but it must have been much bigger because of how far away it was. It could have been as much as a mile wide."



Bowyer told the magazine that he then spotted a "second identical object further to the west," stating that it was the same size but appeared smaller because it was farther away from the plane than the first craft was.

Some passengers and an unnamed pilot with the Blue Islands airline later confirmed the sighting, the Evening Standard reported.

The Civil Aviation Authority safety notice stated that another aircraft, a Tri-Lander, flying nearby Alderney also spotted the soaring object.

http://www.myfoxkc.com/myfox/pages/N...Y&pageId=3.9.1


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[Asshen Sukar]

Oorspronkelijk geplaatst door IlluSionS667

"Free Software" valt onder de pure definitie van vrijheid. "Open Source" verschilt daar wel sterk van.

Nu ben je even onduidelijk als mij. Wat is Free Software? Freeware, shareware?
Ik had er bij gezet da ik met open source GPL bedoelde. GPLv2 benadert vrijheid het meeste. De enigste beperking is dat er niet van licentie verandert mag worden zonder toestemming van de auteur.

Oorspronkelijk geplaatst door IlluSionS667

Ik zie niet in hoe "Open Source" ook maar enigszins de plannen van de NWO tegenwerkt.

Naar ik hier opgevangen heb houdt de NWO zich met ongeveer alles bezig wat met macht en heerschappij te maken heeft. Op alle vlakken wordt er gemanipuleerd. Dit in (bijna) alle domeinen.
Windows en de NSA heb ik hier al zien voorbijkomen, echelon ook, internetmanipulatie, .... Alles rond controle.
Het enigste waar geen controle op te krijgen is is open source/freeware. Er is ook geen enkel bedrijf of overheid die er macht over heeft. De macht, controle en het eigendom ligt bij de gebruiker zelf. Het feit dat ze op een bepaald iets geen controle kunnen krijgen lijkt mij tegenstrijdig aan de plannen van de NWO.

Gezien het groot aantal critical systems van internet dat gebruik maakt van open source/free software had ik verwacht dat de nwo toch liever zag dat de software van deze systemen eigendom was van een bedrijf dan een ongrijpbare licentie.

Zowel Windows als Linux zijn medeontwikkelt door de NSA. Mag je mij zeggen waar de NWO het meest controle/manipulatie bij heeft.

[Eburonum]

Pindar... jeez... ik ga hier effe een gokje wagen: je bent vrijgezel (uit noodzaak, want te dik en te weird), je hebt wreed moeite moeten doen om een "diploma vakschool" te behalen, je woont op een appartement zonder enig diploma, en je enige uitlaatklep is dit forum.

En daarom ("Ik ga het effe Googelen!!!") voel je je perfect op de plaats om het allemaal uit te leggen.

"Respect where it belongs" - you think you meet that?

Dries.
Texas.

[Heftruck]

Oorspronkelijk geplaatst door Eburonum

Pindar... jeez... ik ga hier effe een gokje wagen: je bent vrijgezel (uit noodzaak, want te dik en te weird), je hebt wreed moeite moeten doen om een "diploma vakschool" te behalen, je woont op een appartement zonder enig diploma, en je enige uitlaatklep is dit forum.

En daarom ("Ik ga het effe Googelen!!!") voel je je perfect op de plaats om het allemaal uit te leggen.

"Respect where it belongs" - you think you meet that?

Dries.
Texas.

Heb je dat nodig, de dikke nek uithangen?

[Pindar]

Eigenlijk niet waardig om op te reageren, maar alle voor deze keer.
Kan je in ieder geval dat je zaken uit je duim zuigt, en nogal domme uitspraken doet over iemand die je voor geen meter kent!

Pindar... jeez... ik ga hier effe een gokje wagen: je bent vrijgezel
(uit noodzaak, want te dik en te weird),

nope, woon samen.

je hebt wreed moeite moeten doen om een "diploma vakschool" te behalen,

nope kan juist erg goed leren en ik heb in de loop van de jaren geleerd
razendsnel te lezen. Ik heb gedeeltelijk 2 universitaire studies.
Wis-Natuurkunde en klinische psychologie.Dat ik ze niet heb afgemaakt,
wat ik best zou kunnen, vind ik nu een zegen met wat ik nu weet.
Verder via mijn werk in de IT verschillende mcse/mcp certificaten etc.
en zoals gezegd ik vind leren heel leuk. Ik zit nu alleen aan de alternatieve kant en ben ook alternatieve geneeswijzen aan het leren.

je woont op een appartement zonder enig diploma, en je enige uitlaatklep is dit forum.

zie hierboven , wel woon ik op een appartement. Met miljoenen anderen
wat is daar mis mee?

En daarom ("Ik ga het effe Googelen!!!") voel je je perfect op de plaats om het allemaal uit te leggen.

Voeln me perfect op de plaats? waarom?
Ik vind het vreselijk wat er op ons afkomt en heb me er 5 jaar in verdiept en dat doe ik nog steeds. Dat ik het hier post is in de hoop dat de mensen zien wat er aankomt, zodat we er gezamenlijk wat aan kunnen doen.
Ik had liever dat ik het niet hoef te doen!!!!

"Respect where it belongs" - you think you meet that?

waar slaat dat nu op?

Nu ja ik heb een respectvol antwoord gegeven op een zeer respectloze reactie van jou. Dit zal de eerste, maar ook de laatste zijn op een dergelijke reactie.
Maar nog een ding! Vanwaar deze reactie? Is wat er staat niet te pruimen voor je? Of wat is er? Vanwaar de drang zo te reageren op iemand die
je voor geen meter kwaad heeft gedaan?

Heb je inhoudelijke vragen en kan ik ze beantwoorden ben je welkom.


Nuff Said

Pin d'Ar

[eti1777]

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Pindar... jeez... ik ga hier effe een gokje wagen: je bent vrijgezel (uit noodzaak, want te dik en te weird), je hebt wreed moeite moeten doen om een "diploma vakschool" te behalen, je woont op een appartement zonder enig diploma, en je enige uitlaatklep is dit forum.

En daarom ("Ik ga het effe Googelen!!!") voel je je perfect op de plaats om het allemaal uit te leggen.

"Respect where it belongs" - you think you meet that?

Dries.
Texas.

interessante site;
http://www.leren.nl/cursus/sociale-v...betweters.html

[AsGard_SGO]

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interessante site;
http://www.leren.nl/cursus/sociale-v...betweters.html

Tja ik vrees dat de fora er vol van zitten.. Echter is de vraag of een zogenaamde betweter per definitie ook slecht moet zijn he. Volgens mij is een betweter dan ook alleen maar iemand die echt maar enkel naar zichzelf kan en wil luisteren een lastige betweter.
Een mening of visie hebben en die met iemand willen delen is niet betweterig en verkeerd, zeker niet als je alsnog bereid bent naar andere betweters te luisteren en je openstaat voor input en durft bij te sturen zonder daarom eigen overtuiging te moeten verloochenen. Volgens mij is dat deelnemen aan een constructief gesprek of zinvol discussieren niet?

[eti1777]

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Tja ik vrees dat de fora er vol van zitten.. Echter is de vraag of een zogenaamde betweter per definitie ook slecht moet zijn he. Volgens mij is een betweter dan ook alleen maar iemand die echt maar enkel naar zichzelf kan en wil luisteren een lastige betweter.
Een mening of visie hebben en die met iemand willen delen is niet betweterig en verkeerd, zeker niet als je alsnog bereid bent naar andere betweters te luisteren en je openstaat voor input en durft bij te sturen zonder daarom eigen overtuiging te moeten verloochenen. Volgens mij is dat deelnemen aan een constructief gesprek of zinvol discussieren niet?

Ik weet niet, voor mij is een betweter per definitie iemand die denkt het beter te weten en staat niet open voor iemand anders zijn visie. Hoe wijzer je wordt, hoe nederiger je moet zijn, want betweterij is een plaag zowel voor jezelf als voor anderen.
Vond u de post waarop ik reageerde deelnemen aan een constructief gesprek of zinvol discussieren?

[willem1940NLD]

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interessante site;
http://www.leren.nl/cursus/sociale-v...betweters.html

Inderdaad een goed verhaal; uit eigen ervaring kan ik er aan toevoegen dat je (ik), als enthousiaste werker met gegroeide ervaring, moe(s)t oppassen zelf niet min of meer in zo'n rol of houding te vervallen, vooral als je kennis en ervaring (veelal bepaald door type[n] werkzaamheden en eventueel switchen tussen meerdere beroepsgroepen) meer "breed" dan diep is, relatief veel inzicht in niet aan elkaar verwante velden.

De geadviseerde "hanteringsmethode" vind ik sterk lijken op de tamelijk beleefde wijze waarop de meeste "betweters" binnen een bedrijf of werkkring met elkaar rekening houden, gelijkend op een onzichtbaar "netwerk" van onderlinge herkenning.

Om aan alle kanten communicatiesnelheid te behouden of te winnen, kan het zeer helpen als zoéén die zijn eigen situatie beseft, goed oplet of zijn gesprekspartner echt geïnteresseerd en "bij de les" blijft, zoniet dan tactisch afronden en/of afspreken hem aanvullende info op papier of (moderner) per e-mail te sturen - nooit checken of hij van die info ook nota heeft genomen! - ; ook: laten weten dat iedereen je mag onderbreken als iets "te veel" wordt of van topic dreigt te dwalen.

Een bijkomende "beschermingsmaatregel" voor alle partijen is ook, vooral in een grote werkkring, direct voor het werk niet noodzakelijke contacten op een laag pitje te houden of geheel te mijden; liefst wel "tactisch-beleefd" want niet iedere collega doorziet meteen het wederzijds èn zakelijk voordeel en het hoeft meestal niet nodig te zijn dat iemand zich opzijgezet of beledigd gaat voelen.

O, oppassen want hier ben ik alweer off topic aan het gaan.