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Oud 22 augustus 2005, 13:56   #1761
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Dat is zeker niet het enige punt van kritiek: Mengele hielt zich vooral bezig met eugenetica. Hitler en de nazi's waren doordrongen van dit soort "wetenschap" (zie o.a. Mein Kampf). Mengele is na de oorlog trouwens naar Zuid-Amerika gevlucht (niet naar de USA).
[size=2]Nee, geloof toch niet zoveel wat de main stream schrijft.

Lees andsers het verhaal van Arizona Wilder, persoonlijk ge-mind-controlled door Jozef Mengele.

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Die afweer reacties. hmmm



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Dat is zeker niet het enige punt van kritiek: Mengele hielt zich vooral bezig met eugenetica. Hitler en de nazi's waren doordrongen van dit soort "wetenschap" (zie o.a. Mein Kampf). Mengele is na de oorlog trouwens naar Zuid-Amerika gevlucht (niet naar de USA).
[size=2]Nee, geloof toch niet zoveel wat de main stream schrijft.

Lees andsers het verhaal van Arizona Wilder, persoonlijk ge-mind-controlled door Jozef Mengele.

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Dat is zeker niet het enige punt van kritiek: Mengele hielt zich vooral bezig met eugenetica. Hitler en de nazi's waren doordrongen van dit soort "wetenschap" (zie o.a. Mein Kampf). Mengele is na de oorlog trouwens naar Zuid-Amerika gevlucht (niet naar de USA).

[font=Arial][size=2]Nee, geloof toch niet zoveel wat de main stream schrijft.

Lees andsers het verhaal van Arizona Wilder, persoonlijk ge-mind-controlled door Jozef Mengele.



[/size][/font]Ge hebt 'm weer niet door hé... Probeer eens niet zo beperkt te denken !

[font=Arial][size=2]Leuk he

Die afweer reacties. hmmm



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Oud 22 augustus 2005, 14:19   #1762
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Nee, geloof toch niet zoveel wat de main stream schrijft.
Tststs, weeral een afweer reactie....

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Lees andsers het verhaal van Arizona Wilder, persoonlijk ge-mind-controlled door Jozef Mengele.
Ik lees liever de verhalen van 1000n joden die betrokken zijn geweest in Mengeles eugenetica experimenten, en van de Nazi dokters die getuigden op talrijke processen. Misschien ook interessante lectuur voor u ?
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Ik lees liever de verhalen van 1000n joden die betrokken zijn geweest in Mengeles eugenetica experimenten, en van de Nazi dokters die getuigden op talrijke processen. Misschien ook interessante lectuur voor u ?
Zeer zeker Turkje, kalm maar hoor.
Ik wuif dat ook niet weg. Ik zeg alleen dat er meer aan de hand was.
pfff over verdraaiingen gesproken, maar goed het zij zo.

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Born Jennifer Ann Greene, Arizona Wilder first came to prominence with the release of David Icke's The Biggest Secret, as rare "evidence" (quotes used advisedly) for his theory that the world is dominated by shape-shifting reptilians from other dimensions. The book's index has the entry, "Wilder, Arizona - see Mother Goddess", and she describes human sacrifice rituals involving the Pope, the Clintons, the Reagans, both George Bushes, various members of the Royal Family, and, er, Bob Hope. These summoned "snarling, hideous creatures" - how they distinguished them from participating politicians is unclear.

(...)

Well, where to start? The complete lack of corroborating evidence she provided, to begin with - for example, the alleged beatings become less significant given her admission that she has engaged in self-mutilation. You might think that with so many years operating at the highest levels of the global conspiracy, she would have some proof: photos, documents, anything. No. Not even a shape-shifting paperclip. We have only her testimony to go on. My rule of thumb is that the more outrageous your claims, the more I require to back them up. Wilder rates a 10 for outrageousness, but there's more convincing support for pixies and unicorns than for her view of the world.

(...)

I'm far from the only doubter: former Icke associate Ivan Fraser wrote in an article that, "her facts were either regularly wrong, or so full of spin that she was hardly credible." He also mentions Wilder's claim that the royal lizards change back when they sleep, which must have made Prince Charles' time at Gordonstoun public school and in the armed forces very entertaining for those sharing his sleeping quarters...





Schitterend !

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Born Jennifer Ann Greene, Arizona Wilder first came to prominence with the release of David Icke's The Biggest Secret, as rare "evidence" (quotes used advisedly) for his theory that the world is dominated by shape-shifting reptilians from other dimensions. The book's index has the entry, "Wilder, Arizona - see Mother Goddess", and she describes human sacrifice rituals involving the Pope, the Clintons, the Reagans, both George Bushes, various members of the Royal Family, and, er, Bob Hope. These summoned "snarling, hideous creatures" - how they distinguished them from participating politicians is unclear.

(...)

Well, where to start? The complete lack of corroborating evidence she provided, to begin with - for example, the alleged beatings become less significant given her admission that she has engaged in self-mutilation. You might think that with so many years operating at the highest levels of the global conspiracy, she would have some proof: photos, documents, anything. No. Not even a shape-shifting paperclip. We have only her testimony to go on. My rule of thumb is that the more outrageous your claims, the more I require to back them up. Wilder rates a 10 for outrageousness, but there's more convincing support for pixies and unicorns than for her view of the world.

(...)

I'm far from the only doubter: former Icke associate Ivan Fraser wrote in an article that, "her facts were either regularly wrong, or so full of spin that she was hardly credible." He also mentions Wilder's claim that the royal lizards change back when they sleep, which must have made Prince Charles' time at Gordonstoun public school and in the armed forces very entertaining for those sharing his sleeping quarters...





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Born Jennifer Ann Greene, Arizona Wilder first came to prominence with the release of David Icke's The Biggest Secret, as rare "evidence" (quotes used advisedly) for his theory that the world is dominated by shape-shifting reptilians from other dimensions. The book's index has the entry, "Wilder, Arizona - see Mother Goddess", and she describes human sacrifice rituals involving the Pope, the Clintons, the Reagans, both George Bushes, various members of the Royal Family, and, er, Bob Hope. These summoned "snarling, hideous creatures" - how they distinguished them from participating politicians is unclear.

(...)

Well, where to start? The complete lack of corroborating evidence she provided, to begin with - for example, the alleged beatings become less significant given her admission that she has engaged in self-mutilation. You might think that with so many years operating at the highest levels of the global conspiracy, she would have some proof: photos, documents, anything. No. Not even a shape-shifting paperclip. We have only her testimony to go on. My rule of thumb is that the more outrageous your claims, the more I require to back them up. Wilder rates a 10 for outrageousness, but there's more convincing support for pixies and unicorns than for her view of the world.




Schitterend !

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o, ps, de link met ET: Die film moet dan toch wel een erg diepe dubbele bodem hebben. Want die zal dan wel worden ingezet om de nakende invasie van aliens voor te bereiden. En alle mind-controlled-people de voor hen specifiek bedoelde boodschappen doorgeven. Die E.T. toch!
Independence Day, War of the Worlds nu... Steven Spielberg is trouwens lid van de Bilderberger groep. En hij heeft ook een serie over "abductions" gesponsord.. hmmm...

Het is trouwens geen invasie van aliens. Het is een fake alien invasie. Maar volledig door mensen georcherstreerd.[edit]
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Independence Day, War of the Worlds nu... Steven Spielberg is trouwens lid van de Bilderberger groep. En hij heeft ook een serie over "abductions" gesponsord.. hmmm...

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Zeer zeker Turkje, kalm maar hoor.
U denkt toch niet dat ik mij opjaag over zoveel goedgelovigheid?

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Ik zeg alleen dat er meer aan de hand was.
Gebaseerd op de "verklaringen" van Zotte Trees en de Drie Biggetjes 8)
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Gebaseerd op de "verklaringen" van Zotte Trees en de Drie Biggetjes
Tsja , moet ik er op ingaan? Turkje, het spijt me te moeten zeggen,
maar wat me bij jou erg opvalt is dat je , ondanks dat ik het in mijn ogen,
gewoon zo zuiver en eerlijk probeer te brengen.
jij al meteen je oordeel klaar hebt staan, zonder onderzoek.
Nee, erger nog, je verlaagt jezelf door te ridiculiseren wat niet
in je wereldbeeld past.
Dacht je nou echt dat dat stukje wat je over Arizona plaatst alles zegt?
Tuurlijk niet.
Het is inderdaad bizar allemaal, maar snap je nou echt niet dat dat geen maatstaf is?


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Het is trouwens geen invasie van aliens. Het is een fake alien invasie. Maar volledig door mensen georcherstreerd.
Inderdaad, en er zijn honderden mensen die ge-mind-controlled zijn
voor dit.Zoals eerder genoemde Greenstar-programmering.

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Het is trouwens geen invasie van aliens. Het is een fake alien invasie. Maar volledig door mensen georcherstreerd.
Inderdaad, en er zijn honderden mensen die ge-mind-controlled zijn
voor dit.Zoals eerder genoemde Greenstar-programmering.

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Het is trouwens geen invasie van aliens. Het is een fake alien invasie. Maar volledig door mensen georcherstreerd.
Inderdaad, en er zijn honderden mensen die ge-mind-controlled zijn
voor dit.Zoals eerder genoemde Greenstar programmering.

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En nu we toch bezig zijn: België is een ENORM belangrijke plaats voor de illuminati. Daarom dat G.W. Bush hier zo veel naar toe komt ! Blijkbaar staat immers het Castle of Kings van de Mothers of Darkness in dit eigenste landje (jawel !!). Alhoewel het volgens de ene website in Brussel zou staan, heeft een andere het dan weer over Muno, een onooglijk dorp in de Ardennen. Bij dit laatste zou het gaan over het "Chateau des Arnerois". Misschien een interessante plek om eens naar toe te gaan als volgende forummeeting?

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Presently, the Bush twins are 19 years old; and in the Illuminati hierarchical structure they are being trained/programmed to become "Mothers of Darkness". A "Sealing Ritual" is required for females in the satanic bloodlines at age 19.

An Illuminati multiple will carry on ritual functions at a number of different levels in the occult. There will be different alters for different levels and different ritual dates. The back part of a hierarchy system will not be worked until a sealing ceremony involving Egyptian magic at the age of 19 in late Apr.-May...

Between age 16 and 19 the deep Satanic alters are working on “pathworking.” This pathworking will be completed before they are 19. The ceremony at 19 will include the 1,000 points of light ceremony at the super secret Mother-of-Darkness castle of Chateau des Arnerois (Castle of Kings) close to the Belgium-French border in Europe and about 20 kilometers as the crow flies west from Luxemburg. This will be a sealing ceremony with the Mothers dressed in black. Guards and heavy forest protect the large castle from view. The people in the nearby spooky village of Muno, Bel. basically belong to the castle. The castle has a cathedral inside with a dome with 1,000 lights. The words 1,000 lights is an Illuminati buzz word. When the President used it to describe the White House’s Christmas tree, hierarchy people knew what he was signalling. The cathedral has a great hall with columns on either side, and the Queen Mother’s throne will be set up there....

According to Luciferian tradition, Jenna and Barbara Bush should have been flown to Belgium by their parents to take part in their Mothers of Darkness 'Sealing Ritual' on schedule. The optimum date would be around May 1, the satanic holiday of Beltaine. They were, however still attending college at the time (Jenna in Texas and Barbara at Yale). This event would therefore have to be postponed to approximately one month later. Great detail is put into all Illuminati plans to avoid exposure and make things look natural. A full proof cover story is always given
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En nu we toch bezig zijn: België is een ENORM belangrijke plaats voor de illuminati. Daarom dat G.W. Bush hier zo veel naar toe komt ! Blijkbaar staat immers het Castle of Kings van de Mothers of Darkness in dit eigenste landje (jawel !!). Alhoewel het volgens de ene website in Brussel zou staan, heeft een andere het dan weer over Muno, een onooglijk dorp in de Ardennen. Bij dit laatste zou het gaan over het "Chateau des Arnerois". Misschien een interessante plek om eens naar toe te gaan als volgende forummeeting?

Citaat:
Presently, the Bush twins are 19 years old; and in the Illuminati hierarchical structure they are being trained/programmed to become "Mothers of Darkness". A "Sealing Ritual" is required for females in the satanic bloodlines at age 19.

An Illuminati multiple will carry on ritual functions at a number of different levels in the occult. There will be different alters for different levels and different ritual dates. The back part of a hierarchy system will not be worked until a sealing ceremony involving Egyptian magic at the age of 19 in late Apr.-May...

Between age 16 and 19 the deep Satanic alters are working on “pathworking.” This pathworking will be completed before they are 19. The ceremony at 19 will include the 1,000 points of light ceremony at the super secret Mother-of-Darkness castle of Chateau des Arnerois (Castle of Kings) close to the Belgium-French border in Europe and about 20 kilometers as the crow flies west from Luxemburg. This will be a sealing ceremony with the Mothers dressed in black. Guards and heavy forest protect the large castle from view. The people in the nearby spooky village of Muno, Bel. basically belong to the castle. The castle has a cathedral inside with a dome with 1,000 lights. The words 1,000 lights is an Illuminati buzz word. When the President used it to describe the White House’s Christmas tree, hierarchy people knew what he was signalling. The cathedral has a great hall with columns on either side, and the Queen Mother’s throne will be set up there....

According to Luciferian tradition, Jenna and Barbara Bush should have been flown to Belgium by their parents to take part in their Mothers of Darkness 'Sealing Ritual' on schedule. The optimum date would be around May 1, the satanic holiday of Beltaine. They were, however still attending college at the time (Jenna in Texas and Barbara at Yale). This event would therefore have to be postponed to approximately one month later. Great detail is put into all Illuminati plans to avoid exposure and make things look natural.

A full proof cover story is always given
http://poweredbychrist.homestead.com...sh/rituals.htm
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Tsja , moet ik er op ingaan?
Wat denk je nu zelf?

Hoe meer ik info opzoek over de links die je geeft, personen die je onvoorwaardelijk gelooft, nieuwe theoreën die je aanhangt, ..., hoe meer de woorden "Nutty nut nut of the Nut family in Nutterville" bij me opkomen. Ik kan er echt niet aan doen.
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En nu we toch bezig zijn: België is een ENORM belangrijke plaats voor de illuminati. Daarom dat G.W. Bush hier zo veel naar toe komt ! Blijkbaar staat immers het Castle of Kings van de Mothers of Darkness in dit eigenste landje (jawel !!). Alhoewel het volgens de ene website in Brussel zou staan, heeft een andere het dan weer over Muno, een onooglijk dorp in de Ardennen. Bij dit laatste zou het gaan over het "Chateau des Arnerois". Misschien een interessante plek om eens naar toe te gaan als volgende forummeeting?
Inderdaad, waarom denk je dat het europarlement in Belgie staat?
Je kan er wel minachtend over doen, maar inderdaad is Belgie een speciaal land voor de illuminati. Of dacht je nou echt dat Dutroux los van de illuminati
gewerkt heeft? (Dutroux was lid van Abrasax, een satanische secte)
Er zijn trouwens inderdaad mensen die ik ken naar dat kasteel geweest.
Ik kan je vertellen dat je er niet dicht bij komt want het stikt er van de legermensen. Ik zou zeggen ga er zelf eens kijken.

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Hoe meer ik info opzoek over de links die je geeft, personen die je onvoorwaardelijk gelooft, nieuwe theoreën die je aanhangt, ..., hoe meer de woorden "Nutty nut nut of the Nut family in Nutterville" bij me opkomen. Ik kan er echt niet aan doen.
zolang je er niets aan kan doen ben je tuurlijk een rasecht slachtoffertje.

het zij zo.

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Ik zou zeggen ga er zelf eens kijken.
Ik zal proberen tijdens de volgende illuminati feestjes:

http://www.brocante-muno.be/

of

http://www.quefaire.be/Muno-festival...ip-21126.shtml

eens binnen te glippen
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zolang je er niets aan kan doen ben je tuurlijk een rasecht slachtoffertje.
Totally mind-controlled 8) Pas maar op, of ik kom u opeten
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Totally mind-controlled Pas maar op, of ik kom u opeten

LOL je bent wel de laatste waar ik bang voor zou zijn!

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Democracy is an Illusion





By Henry Makow Ph.D.



August 20, 2005

By Henry Makow, Ph.D.






"A "Far Side" cartoon describes our innocence about democracy.

A slave rowing a Viking ship puts up his hand and calls to the whip master: "Yoo-hoo! Oh, yoo-hoo... I think I'm getting a blister."

Like this man, most people cling to the belief that our leaders represent our interests.

"Yoo, hoo, Mr. Bush, you lied about Iraq having weapons of mass destruction."

At an elite gathering, Bush peered under his lectern and quipped: "Where are those weapons of mass destruction?"

A tiny cabal of international bankers chooses our "leaders". This clique, which subtly controls every significant facet of our society is gradually establishing an Orwellian global police state. Much of the ruling class has been duped to think they are building a better world.

Prove it, you say?





"The Naked Capitalist"
by W.C. Skousen (available at www.abe.com & www.bookfinder.com) is yet another smoking gun. It is based on the revelations contained in Professor Carroll Quiqley's "Tragedy and Hope: A History of the World in Our Time." (1966)



Quiqley, a Professor of History at the Foreign Service School at Georgetown University was a trusted insider who had access to their private archives. He felt the plot, which he supported, was too important to be kept hidden. However, shortly after publication, his book was taken off the market.

Cleon Skoussen was an FBI agent for 16 years and the Police Chief of Salt Lake City for four years. His "The Naked Capitalist" distills the most shocking evidence from Quigley's daunting 1300-page book.

At just 122 pages, "The Naked Capitalist" (1970) is a concise, lucid and absolutely convincing account of the international banker conspiracy. Historians who have largely ignored this material have betrayed the public trust.


OUR PREDICAMENT








Quigley confirms that a network of banking dynasties has, in Skousen's words, "acquired a choke-hold on the affairs of practically the entire human race." According to Quigley, they include "Baring, Lazard, Erlanger, Warburg, Schroder, Selingman, the Speyers, Mirabaud, Malet, and above all Rothschild and Morgan." (Citations are from Tragedy and Hope, 51-52)

Quigley confirms that, starting with the Bank of England in 1694, these dynasties organized themselves in a system of central banks that charge their respective nations billions of dollars in interest for the privilege of using currency backed by the nations' own credit. In other words, they have carried off a swindle of monstrous proportions.

Quigley quotes William Gladstone who as Chancellor of the Exchequer said in 1852: "The government itself was not to be a substantive power in matters of Finance, but was to leave the Money Power supreme and unquestioned." (325)

Put another way, a private credit monopoly controls the governments' purse strings.

Able to create money out of nothing, they naturally grabbed as much of the world's real wealth as they could. Quigley writes about the formation of their American cartels: "The period 1884-1933 was the period of financial capitalism in which investment bankers moving into commercial banking and insurance on the one side, and into railroading and heavy industry on the other were able to mobilize enormous wealth and wield enormous economic, political and social power." (71)

Indeed their representatives, the "Eastern Establishment" i.e. the Morgans and now the Rockefellers run the United States. (72) The principle mechanism is the Council on Foreign Relations.

According to Quigley, the ultimate goal is "nothing less than to create a world system of financial control in private hands able to dominate the political system of each country and the economy of the world as a whole. This system was to be controlled ...by the central banks...acting in concert." (324)

Quigley confirms that the bankers have usurped mankind's collective instincts by financing the Socialist and Communist movements. Bankers love big government because the ultimate monopoly is the State. Through it, they take over their competition and control debt, resources, market demand and labor.

Speaking of the Communist takeover of the US government in the 1930's and 1940's, Quigley writes, "it must be understood that the power that these energetic left-wingers exercised was never their own power of Communist power but was ultimately the power of the international financial coterie." (954)





In other words, millions of idealists committed to human brotherhood and equality were (and are) duped into advancing a totalitarian scheme to concentrate the world's wealth and power into the hands of the superrich. More savvy Leftists, Communists, Feminists and Globalists continue to prosper while unctuously pretending to serve humanity.


The Money Power controls the debate and encourages gridlock by backing all shades of the political spectrum and marginalizing anyone who shines the spotlight on them. (Ever wonder why Noam Chomsky never mention international bankers and the credit system?) The media is controlled through direct ownership and advertising.

Quigley writes: "To Morgan all political parties were simply organizations to be used, and the firm always was careful to keep a foot in all camps. Morgan himself, Dwight Morrow and other partners were allied with the Republicans; Russell C. Lewffingwell was allied with the Democrats; Grayson Murphy was allied with the extreme Right; and Thomas W. Lamont was allied with the Left." (945)

The Lamont family was "sponsors and financial angels to almost a score of extreme Left organizations including the Communist Party itself." (945)



CONCLUSION

A small cabal of people who are not even citizens hold the financial purse strings of every nation.

This goes a long way to explaining "globalization" and the push to one-world government. It explains the assault on race, religion, nation and family. The bankers want a homogenous world that offers no basis of resistance.

It explains why in a time of supposed security danger, the southern border of the US is practically porous. The bankers want to undermine America's European character, which it perceives as a threat.

It explains the war on Iraq, and the fact that there is no opposition in the mainstream parties or press. This war desecrates a cradle of civilization and assails the religion of Islam. It is also an opportunity to create more debt and enrich the bankers and their corporate allies.

It explains 9-11, the Patriot Repression Act and the phony "War on Terror."

It explains the depraved mass media and stupefying education system. I could go on but you get the picture. We are krill at the mercy of a gigantic whale. At the very least, let's not waste energy thinking we live in a free and open society. Our democracy is a ruse."

Bron: http://www.savethemales.ca/001102.html


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Democracy is an Illusion





By Henry Makow Ph.D.



August 20, 2005

By Henry Makow, Ph.D.






"A "Far Side" cartoon describes our innocence about democracy.

A slave rowing a Viking ship puts up his hand and calls to the whip master: "Yoo-hoo! Oh, yoo-hoo... I think I'm getting a blister."

Like this man, most people cling to the belief that our leaders represent our interests.

"Yoo, hoo, Mr. Bush, you lied about Iraq having weapons of mass destruction."

At an elite gathering, Bush peered under his lectern and quipped: "Where are those weapons of mass destruction?"

A tiny cabal of international bankers chooses our "leaders". This clique, which subtly controls every significant facet of our society is gradually establishing an Orwellian global police state. Much of the ruling class has been duped to think they are building a better world.

Prove it, you say?





"The Naked Capitalist"
by W.C. Skousen (available at www.abe.com & www.bookfinder.com) is yet another smoking gun. It is based on the revelations contained in Professor Carroll Quiqley's "Tragedy and Hope: A History of the World in Our Time." (1966)



Quiqley, a Professor of History at the Foreign Service School at Georgetown University was a trusted insider who had access to their private archives. He felt the plot, which he supported, was too important to be kept hidden. However, shortly after publication, his book was taken off the market.

Cleon Skoussen was an FBI agent for 16 years and the Police Chief of Salt Lake City for four years. His "The Naked Capitalist" distills the most shocking evidence from Quigley's daunting 1300-page book.

At just 122 pages, "The Naked Capitalist" (1970) is a concise, lucid and absolutely convincing account of the international banker conspiracy. Historians who have largely ignored this material have betrayed the public trust.


OUR PREDICAMENT








Quigley confirms that a network of banking dynasties has, in Skousen's words, "acquired a choke-hold on the affairs of practically the entire human race." According to Quigley, they include "Baring, Lazard, Erlanger, Warburg, Schroder, Selingman, the Speyers, Mirabaud, Malet, and above all Rothschild and Morgan." (Citations are from Tragedy and Hope, 51-52)

Quigley confirms that, starting with the Bank of England in 1694, these dynasties organized themselves in a system of central banks that charge their respective nations billions of dollars in interest for the privilege of using currency backed by the nations' own credit. In other words, they have carried off a swindle of monstrous proportions.

Quigley quotes William Gladstone who as Chancellor of the Exchequer said in 1852: "The government itself was not to be a substantive power in matters of Finance, but was to leave the Money Power supreme and unquestioned." (325)

Put another way, a private credit monopoly controls the governments' purse strings.

Able to create money out of nothing, they naturally grabbed as much of the world's real wealth as they could. Quigley writes about the formation of their American cartels: "The period 1884-1933 was the period of financial capitalism in which investment bankers moving into commercial banking and insurance on the one side, and into railroading and heavy industry on the other were able to mobilize enormous wealth and wield enormous economic, political and social power." (71)

Indeed their representatives, the "Eastern Establishment" i.e. the Morgans and now the Rockefellers run the United States. (72) The principle mechanism is the Council on Foreign Relations.

According to Quigley, the ultimate goal is "nothing less than to create a world system of financial control in private hands able to dominate the political system of each country and the economy of the world as a whole. This system was to be controlled ...by the central banks...acting in concert." (324)

Quigley confirms that the bankers have usurped mankind's collective instincts by financing the Socialist and Communist movements. Bankers love big government because the ultimate monopoly is the State. Through it, they take over their competition and control debt, resources, market demand and labor.

Speaking of the Communist takeover of the US government in the 1930's and 1940's, Quigley writes, "it must be understood that the power that these energetic left-wingers exercised was never their own power of Communist power but was ultimately the power of the international financial coterie." (954)





In other words, millions of idealists committed to human brotherhood and equality were (and are) duped into advancing a totalitarian scheme to concentrate the world's wealth and power into the hands of the superrich. More savvy Leftists, Communists, Feminists and Globalists continue to prosper while unctuously pretending to serve humanity.


The Money Power controls the debate and encourages gridlock by backing all shades of the political spectrum and marginalizing anyone who shines the spotlight on them. (Ever wonder why Noam Chomsky never mention international bankers and the credit system?) The media is controlled through direct ownership and advertising.

Quigley writes: "To Morgan all political parties were simply organizations to be used, and the firm always was careful to keep a foot in all camps. Morgan himself, Dwight Morrow and other partners were allied with the Republicans; Russell C. Lewffingwell was allied with the Democrats; Grayson Murphy was allied with the extreme Right; and Thomas W. Lamont was allied with the Left." (945)

The Lamont family was "sponsors and financial angels to almost a score of extreme Left organizations including the Communist Party itself." (945)



CONCLUSION

A small cabal of people who are not even citizens hold the financial purse strings of every nation.

This goes a long way to explaining "globalization" and the push to one-world government. It explains the assault on race, religion, nation and family. The bankers want a homogenous world that offers no basis of resistance.

It explains why in a time of supposed security danger, the southern border of the US is practically porous. The bankers want to undermine America's European character, which it perceives as a threat.

It explains the war on Iraq, and the fact that there is no opposition in the mainstream parties or press. This war desecrates a cradle of civilization and assails the religion of Islam. It is also an opportunity to create more debt and enrich the bankers and their corporate allies.

It explains 9-11, the Patriot Repression Act and the phony "War on Terror."

It explains the depraved mass media and stupefying education system. I could go on but you get the picture. We are krill at the mercy of a gigantic whale. At the very least, let's not waste energy thinking we live in a free and open society. Our democracy is a ruse."

Bron: http://www.savethemales.ca/001102.html


met vriendelijke groeten

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Democracy is an Illusion



By Henry Makow Ph.D.


August 20, 2005

By Henry Makow, Ph.D.










"A "Far Side" cartoon describes our innocence about democracy.

A slave rowing a Viking ship puts up his hand and calls to the whip master: "Yoo-hoo! Oh, yoo-hoo... I think I'm getting a blister."

Like this man, most people cling to the belief that our leaders represent our interests.

"Yoo, hoo, Mr. Bush, you lied about Iraq having weapons of mass destruction."

At an elite gathering, Bush peered under his lectern and quipped: "Where are those weapons of mass destruction?"

A tiny cabal of international bankers chooses our "leaders". This clique, which subtly controls every significant facet of our society is gradually establishing an Orwellian global police state. Much of the ruling class has been duped to think they are building a better world.

Prove it, you say?



"The Naked Capitalist"
by W.C. Skousen (available at www.abe.com & www.bookfinder.com) is yet another smoking gun. It is based on the revelations contained in Professor Carroll Quiqley's "Tragedy and Hope: A History of the World in Our Time." (1966)


Quiqley, a Professor of History at the Foreign Service School at Georgetown University was a trusted insider who had access to their private archives. He felt the plot, which he supported, was too important to be kept hidden. However, shortly after publication, his book was taken off the market.

Cleon Skoussen was an FBI agent for 16 years and the Police Chief of Salt Lake City for four years. His "The Naked Capitalist" distills the most shocking evidence from Quigley's daunting 1300-page book.

At just 122 pages, "The Naked Capitalist" (1970) is a concise, lucid and absolutely convincing account of the international banker conspiracy. Historians who have largely ignored this material have betrayed the public trust.


OUR PREDICAMENT




Quigley confirms that a network of banking dynasties has, in Skousen's words, "acquired a choke-hold on the affairs of practically the entire human race." According to Quigley, they include "Baring, Lazard, Erlanger, Warburg, Schroder, Selingman, the Speyers, Mirabaud, Malet, and above all Rothschild and Morgan." (Citations are from Tragedy and Hope, 51-52)

Quigley confirms that, starting with the Bank of England in 1694, these dynasties organized themselves in a system of central banks that charge their respective nations billions of dollars in interest for the privilege of using currency backed by the nations' own credit. In other words, they have carried off a swindle of monstrous proportions.

Quigley quotes William Gladstone who as Chancellor of the Exchequer said in 1852: "The government itself was not to be a substantive power in matters of Finance, but was to leave the Money Power supreme and unquestioned." (325)

Put another way, a private credit monopoly controls the governments' purse strings.

Able to create money out of nothing, they naturally grabbed as much of the world's real wealth as they could. Quigley writes about the formation of their American cartels: "The period 1884-1933 was the period of financial capitalism in which investment bankers moving into commercial banking and insurance on the one side, and into railroading and heavy industry on the other were able to mobilize enormous wealth and wield enormous economic, political and social power." (71)

Indeed their representatives, the "Eastern Establishment" i.e. the Morgans and now the Rockefellers run the United States. (72) The principle mechanism is the Council on Foreign Relations.

According to Quigley, the ultimate goal is "nothing less than to create a world system of financial control in private hands able to dominate the political system of each country and the economy of the world as a whole. This system was to be controlled ...by the central banks...acting in concert." (324)

Quigley confirms that the bankers have usurped mankind's collective instincts by financing the Socialist and Communist movements. Bankers love big government because the ultimate monopoly is the State. Through it, they take over their competition and control debt, resources, market demand and labor.

Speaking of the Communist takeover of the US government in the 1930's and 1940's, Quigley writes, "it must be understood that the power that these energetic left-wingers exercised was never their own power of Communist power but was ultimately the power of the international financial coterie." (954)



In other words, millions of idealists committed to human brotherhood and equality were (and are) duped into advancing a totalitarian scheme to concentrate the world's wealth and power into the hands of the superrich. More savvy Leftists, Communists, Feminists and Globalists continue to prosper while unctuously pretending to serve humanity.






The Money Power controls the debate and encourages gridlock by backing all shades of the political spectrum and marginalizing anyone who shines the spotlight on them. (Ever wonder why Noam Chomsky never mention international bankers and the credit system?) The media is controlled through direct ownership and advertising.

Quigley writes: "To Morgan all political parties were simply organizations to be used, and the firm always was careful to keep a foot in all camps. Morgan himself, Dwight Morrow and other partners were allied with the Republicans; Russell C. Lewffingwell was allied with the Democrats; Grayson Murphy was allied with the extreme Right; and Thomas W. Lamont was allied with the Left." (945)

The Lamont family was "sponsors and financial angels to almost a score of extreme Left organizations including the Communist Party itself." (945)



CONCLUSION









A small cabal of people who are not even citizens hold the financial purse strings of every nation.

This goes a long way to explaining "globalization" and the push to one-world government. It explains the assault on race, religion, nation and family. The bankers want a homogenous world that offers no basis of resistance.

It explains why in a time of supposed security danger, the southern border of the US is practically porous. The bankers want to undermine America's European character, which it perceives as a threat.

It explains the war on Iraq, and the fact that there is no opposition in the mainstream parties or press. This war desecrates a cradle of civilization and assails the religion of Islam. It is also an opportunity to create more debt and enrich the bankers and their corporate allies.

It explains 9-11, the Patriot Repression Act and the phony "War on Terror."

It explains the depraved mass media and stupefying education system. I could go on but you get the picture. We are krill at the mercy of a gigantic whale. At the very least, let's not waste energy thinking we live in a free and open society. Our democracy is a ruse."

Bron: http://www.savethemales.ca/001102.html


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