Russische vlag op het parlement van de Krim

[Philemon]

Top pro-Kremlin propagandist is moedeloos vanwege de nederlagen van Rusland in Oekraïne. Solovyov pleit voor herstel van de doodstraf, omdat mensen weigeren zichzelf neer te schieten.

Inwoners uit de Krim die de mobilisatie ontvlucht zijn, staan in de rij bij de Oekraïense ambassade in Kazachstan, melden lokale media.
De meesten van hen zijn mannen die een Oekraïens paspoort willen ontvangen.

[Nr.10]

Stefan Schaller, de Duitse observator bij het referendum, werd niet alleen ontslagen uit zijn job, ook zijn pensioenrechten werden hem ontnomen, na 35 jaar dienst.

BRON: https://t.me/StopHating_Russia/3481

[Nr.10]

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Top pro-Kremlin propagandist is moedeloos vanwege de nederlagen van Rusland in Oekraïne. Solovyov pleit voor herstel van de doodstraf, omdat mensen weigeren zichzelf neer te schieten.

Inwoners uit de Krim die de mobilisatie ontvlucht zijn, staan in de rij bij de Oekraïense ambassade in Kazachstan, melden lokale media.
De meesten van hen zijn mannen die een Oekraïens paspoort willen ontvangen.

Vandaag op de radio in de auto gehoord over de rekruteringspraktijken in Oekraïne.

Over hulp aan mensen die niet willen dienen in die proxy-oorlog.

Gelijk hebben ze.

[Jay-P.]

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Men hergroepeert met het oog op de massale versterkingen die onderweg zijn.

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Hergroeperen en materiaal achterlaten, lijkt een goed plan.

No comment.

[patrickve]

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't Probleem is dat ge voor de massa met inzichtsbeperking niet meer moogt zeggen dat er naar vrede moet gestreefd worden, want dan zijde ne putin-lover.

Naar vrede streven is dan ook geen goed idee, nooit. Want vrede wil zeggen: U niet verdedigen, en dus alle macht aan de anderen laten. Zonder vechten geen vrijheid he.

Vrede is een vies woord.

Maar je begrijpt toch dat het ridicuul is om "het westen" aan te manen om naar vrede te streven, als diegenen die met tanks zijn begonnen, de Russen zijn he.

De eersten die de opmerking "naar vrede moeten streven" op hun bord krijgen, zijn de Russen he. Die moeten eerst ongedaan maken wat ze met niet-vrede begonnen zijn.

En dat is universeel zo, en de rede waarom "vrede" een vies woord is: het speelt in de kaart van de grootste agressieveling. Immers, zijn slachtoffer moet naar vrede streven. Hij niet.

Goeie vrede is gewapend en dreigend. Waar beide partijen weten dat de andere geen vrede zal willen, als ze er zelf geen willen.

[Bach]

Als Musk openbaar bekend maakt dat de Krim dient erkent te worden als deel van Rusland is hij dan een 'Putin lover'? Of geeft dat kortsluiting?

[gunter5148]

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Naar vrede streven is dan ook geen goed idee, nooit. Want vrede wil zeggen: U niet verdedigen, en dus alle macht aan de anderen laten. Zonder vechten geen vrijheid he.

Vrede is een vies woord.

Maar je begrijpt toch dat het ridicuul is om "het westen" aan te manen om naar vrede te streven, als diegenen die met tanks zijn begonnen, de Russen zijn he.

De eersten die de opmerking "naar vrede moeten streven" op hun bord krijgen, zijn de Russen he. Die moeten eerst ongedaan maken wat ze met niet-vrede begonnen zijn.

En dat is universeel zo, en de rede waarom "vrede" een vies woord is: het speelt in de kaart van de grootste agressieveling. Immers, zijn slachtoffer moet naar vrede streven. Hij niet.

Goeie vrede is gewapend en dreigend. Waar beide partijen weten dat de andere geen vrede zal willen, als ze er zelf geen willen.

En doe nu de periode voor 02/2022 eens.

Ah nee, de slachtoffers van westers imperialisme, dat is vee, in uw ogen. Wel vee met evengoed vaders en moeders en kinderen.

Maar dat maakt u niet uit. Slachtoffers van het westers imperialisme hebben geen rechten in uw ogen.

En slachtoffers van een pushback tegen westers imperialisme zijn allen neergedaald uit de hemel.

Nogmaals, dubbele moraal.

[brother paul]

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En doe nu de periode voor 02/2022 eens.

Ah nee, de slachtoffers van westers imperialisme, dat is vee, in uw ogen. Wel vee met evengoed vaders en moeders en kinderen.

Maar dat maakt u niet uit. Slachtoffers van het westers imperialisme hebben geen rechten in uw ogen.

En slachtoffers van een pushback tegen westers imperialisme zijn allen neergedaald uit de hemel.

Nogmaals, dubbele moraal.

russen waren al tien jaar een soort verzet aan het steunen in de donbas regio ? je moet dus voor 2012 beginnen

[brother paul]

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Als Musk openbaar bekend maakt dat de Krim dient erkent te worden als deel van Rusland is hij dan een 'Putin lover'? Of geeft dat kortsluiting?

volgens mij is het correcte voorstel

de regio's bezet door rusland overhevelen aan de blauwhelmen
die blauwhelmen stabiliseren de toestand tot 2100
in 2100 hou je een referendum waar die zone wil naartoe trekken

[brother paul]

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mja
ondertussen zijn ze zich wel overal aan het terugtrekken en doneren de russen hun materiaal massaal aan het Oekraiense leger.
Zelfs het russische leger geeft toe dat ze opnieuw hergroeperen

of zijn eht voorbereidingen voor een Luke

oh geniaal plan van Putain:
je laat de UKR oprukken in Donbas, de regio waar juist 98% van de mensen gestemd hebben voor u
en je gooit dan heel tactisch een kernbom op het oprukkende leger
trouw aan het heilige principe: als ik het niet mag hebben, dan mag jij ook niet dat speelgoedje hebben
en dan val je vanuit het noorden Belarus, UKR binnen tegen een verzwakt leger...

[patrickve]

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Ah nee, de slachtoffers van westers imperialisme, dat is vee, in uw ogen. Wel vee met evengoed vaders en moeders en kinderen.

Welke slachtoffers ? Wij, die opgeofferd worden aan de geneugten van een welvarende consumptie maatschappij naar westers imperialistisch model ?

Ik ken geen slachtoffers van westers imperialisme eerlijk gezegd. De meesten genieten ervan. Enfin, behalve als het natuurlijk vijanden zijn. Moslims mogen er uiteraard aan, zoveel is zeker. Alle "uitwassen" in makakkenlanden, dat is enkel maar te betreuren in zoverre de uitroeiing niet totaal is, en de backlash nadien in ons bakkes ontploft (zoals Irak en zo).

Alle gebieden waar er voor de westerlingen onderwerping en uitbuiting gebeurt, dat is OOK positief te noemen uiteraard. Behalve, weeral, als het ontspoort en nadien in ons gezicht ontploft. Want uiteindelijk is de bedoeling toch dat onze club de wereld onder de voeten loopt, alles uitroeit wat niet kan dienen en concurrentie voor resources betekent, en onderwerpt wat nuttig is zou ik denken. En ik vind dat we het gewoon nog niet genoeg doen, want er is uiteraard geen plaats voor iedereen.

Dus over welke slachtoffers heb je het ?

[Bach]

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Stefan Schaller, de Duitse observator bij het referendum, werd niet alleen ontslagen uit zijn job, ook zijn pensioenrechten werden hem ontnomen, na 35 jaar dienst.

BRON: https://t.me/StopHating_Russia/3481

MP Angelo Sánchez werd uit labour gezet nadat hij op een congres gezegd had dat Oekraïne oorlog steunen overeen kwam met het steunen van VS hegemonie.

Dit totalitarisme is overal zichtbaar in het westen. Terwijl men het volk richting Rusland doet kijken vertrappelt men hun rechten. Je mag amper opkomen voor je rechten of je bent een Putin lover. Zo ver is het gekomen.

[Philemon]

Poetin keurde de ratificatie goed van verdragen over de annexatie van de zogenaamde 'Volksrepublieken' van Donetsk en Luhansk, evenals de regio's Zaporizhzhia en Kherson.

Is er deze week nog een toespraak van Poetin te verwachten? Er moet immers ook extern worden vermeld dat alle formaliteiten en procedures zijn afgerond en dat rusland sindsdien (vandaag?) officieel groter is geworden.

(Ook al kan niemand precies zeggen hoeveel ).

[dalibor]

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Als Musk openbaar bekend maakt dat de Krim dient erkent te worden als deel van Rusland is hij dan een 'Putin lover'? Of geeft dat kortsluiting?

Elon Musk is een buitenstaander, zoals u en ik. Komt niet uit de regio, is evenmin beleidsverantwoordelijke in zijn land.

Dus zijn voorstel weegt evenveel als de tweet van eender welke Amerikaan.

[Bach]

Only Adult Children Still Believe U.S. Propaganda

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September 30, 2022 ejcurtin 21 Comments

It should now be quite clear to any reasonable person that the Biden administration is hell-bent on destroying Russia and will risk nuclear war in doing so. It has already started World War III with its use of Ukraine to light the final match. The problem is that reasonable people are in very short supply, and, as Ray McGovern recently wrote in “Brainwashed for War with Russia,” the Biden administration and their media lackeys

… will have no trouble rallying Americans for the widest war in 77 years, starting in Ukraine, and maybe spreading to China …. Most Americans are just as taken in by the media as they were 20 years ago, when they were told there were weapons of mass destruction in Iraq. They simply took it on faith. Nor did the guilty media express remorse – or a modicum of embarrassment.

Many good writers – all of whom are banned from mainstream media – have made clear why the corporate media propaganda about the US/NATO war against Russia via Ukraine is false and egregiously dangerous. The government of the U.S.A. is led by morons in the demonic grip of the “The U.S. Should Rule the World” ideology. It is nothing new.

I don’t wish to debate the facts, for that is a fool’s game created to suggest there is something to debate. For the evidence is clear, except to the public in the grip of propaganda-induced ignorance or those elites who never learned from the ancient Greek goddess Nemesis that dark Furies will destroy those who in their hubris push the limits. The Biden administration has already done that, while President Biden mutters inanities as if he were a mafia boss wandering the streets in his pajamas and slippers. The recent sabotaging of Nord Stream 2 is another example of the treacherous road we are traveling, as Diana Johnstone makes clear in her recent article, “Omerta in the Gangster War.”

For years, the U.S.- run NATO has moved military forces and bases into countries encircling Russia. This includes weapons that can very quickly be converted to nuclear use. This, as I’ve pointed out before, is tantamount to Russia doing the same in Mexico and Canada, and let’s add Cuba as well. We know what the U.S. response would be, but when President Putin and his government objected and said this is a betrayal of previous agreements, he was dismissed as if he were a child making things up.

In 2014, when the U.S. engineered a coup in Ukraine, bringing into power neo-Nazi elements, and Russia protested this coup on its western border, Washington mocked such concerns. Every time Russia has complained about such provocative moves, the U.S. has dismissed them as inconsequential.

For years the U.S. has supported the Ukrainian killing of the Russian speaking peoples of eastern Ukraine, and finally, when Ukraine had amassed forces to invade the Donbas region, the Russian government had had enough and sent troops into the region to defend this area. Thus the hypocritical West played at outrage that what they had created was finally backfiring. Russia was cast as the guilty party for invading Ukraine. And now a full-fledged U.S. war against Russia is out in the open and it will become more dangerous as it continues. Nuclear annihilation becomes a very real possibility as the Biden administration continues to push the envelope.

There will be no end to the war in Ukraine because the U.S. is intent on doing everything in its power to try to bring Russia to its knees. It is madness on its face, but then insane people are in charge. In this process, everyone is expendable, friends, foes, and anyone who stands in its way, including the U.S.’s supposed European allies whose leaders seem intent on destroying their own countries.

Perhaps ironically – but I think not, as a knowledge of history confirms – the volte-face of the American liberal class with its promotion of the new Cold War, censorship, the CIA, and FBI and the so-called progressive Democratic politicians in the U.S congress, including Bernie Sanders and Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, embracing and voting for war with Russia via Ukraine, should be no great surprise. These people, and their Republican counterparts, with rare exceptions here and there, live on desolation row and flip when so ordered. But “nobody has to think too much about Desolation Row,” in Dylan’s words, because it’s the social disease we inhabit, and like fish in water, many know nothing else.

On a similar note, Ray McGovern has also recently reminded those who pay attention to him that The New York Times, as is its tradition, is promoting the U.S. war against Russia just as it did with the Vietnam War in the 1960s. Little changes is his theme, no apologies are ever offered, and the readers of the most famous American newspaper and CIA conduit are asked to swallow daily doses of propaganda that are so egregiously obvious that only children would be fooled. Sadly, the United States has become a country of children, Babes in Toyland who never realize that at the end of the plot the gun is reversed and is aimed at them. And it’s not funny.

A century ago in the years before World War I, American progressive intellectuals, as Stuart Ewen writes in PR: A Social History of Spin:

… had espoused the Enlightenment dictum that people – at least middle-class people – were essentially rational, capable of evaluating information and then making intelligent decisions. In the context of the CPI [the U.S, Committee on Public Information, a large propaganda apparatus set up in April 1917 by President Woodrow Wilson to sell the American entry into the war against Germany as necessary to ‘Make the World Safe for Democracy,’ whose members included Edward Bernays, the propagandist and so-called father of public relations] ‘public opinion’ became something to be mobilized and managed; the ‘public mind’ was now seen as an entity to be manufactured, not reasoned with.

Faith in reason was abandoned in favor of psychological manipulation of emotion and the use of unreason – the “night mind” – which became the template for future propaganda and the application of psychological techniques, a forerunner of the CIA’s MKUltra and Operation Mockingbird. As the crackdown on dissent increased with passage of the 1917 Espionage Act (under which Julian Assange is falsely charged today) and then the Sedition Act in 1918, many so-called progressives embraced the authoritarian imposition of state controls on dissent, just as they do today. An important exception was Randolph Bourne, who in 1917 castigated these turncoats in his blistering essay, “War and the Intellectuals.” “Socialists, college professors, publicists, new-republicans, [and] practitioners of literature,” he wrote, “had assumed the iniquitous task of ‘riveting the war mind on a hundred million of the world’s people.’” Today such people debate whether they should be called liberal or progressive. I say, call them warmongers of the lowest order.

I remember when I was an impressionable child and television had only a few channels. This was in the years between the Korean War and the one against Vietnam. There was a movie that was repeated on television regularly: Yankee Doodle Dandy, starring the amazing performer Jimmy Cagney as George M. Cohan, the Irish-American composer/lyricist/playwright, who, in the years before WW I was known as the man who owned Broadway and whose statue stands in Times Square in New York City.

Child that I was, I saw the film many times and was mesmerized. My emotions rose with every viewing. My heart strings vibrated to the tunes of “Over There” and “You’re a Grand Old Flag.” I marched proudly to WW I with Cagney/Cohan. This was a movie that appeared in 1942 to promote the WW II war effort by using the lies about WW I to do it. But oh what fun! And the stirring songs – fodder for a child. And this was before the CIA completely owned Hollywood.

Yet I grew up. I am no longer a child. I have studied and seen through the propaganda of The New York Times, CNN, the Washington Post, Fox News, The Guardian, Hollywood, etc.

Many of those I know have not. They believe in the unbelievable. They still live in what Jim Garrison called the “Doll’s House” and accept what Harold Pinter termed “a vast tapestry of lies.” Pinter said in his 2005 Nobel address what has not changed an iota since about the U.S.’s murderous foreign policy:

It never happened. Nothing ever happened. Even while it was happening it wasn’t happening. It didn’t matter. It was of no interest. The crimes of the United States have been systematic, constant, vicious, remorseless, but very few people have actually talked about them. You have to hand it to America. It has exercised a quite clinical manipulation of power worldwide while masquerading as a force for universal good. It’s a brilliant, even witty, highly successful act of hypnosis.

When I was a child, I was hypnotized by “Yankee Doodle Dandy.”

I’ve grown a bit. McGovern and Pinter are right; little has changed – Vietnam, WW I, Iraq, Syria, Afghanistan, Yugoslavia, Somalia, Iran, Nicaragua, El Salvador, China, etc. And of course, Russia, always Russia, at whose heart the weapons are always aimed, fiendish Russia that must be destroyed to make the world safe for the predators that pose as lovers of democracy and international law.

When President Kennedy, deeply chastened by the Cuban Missile Crisis of October 1962, spoke about real peace and democracy at American University on June 10, 1963, he was the last American leader to recognize that international relations had to undergo a radical change, especially in the nuclear age. Demonizing other countries had to give way to dialogue and mutual respect. He said:

What kind of peace do I mean? What kind of peace do we seek? Not a Pax Americana enforced on the world by American weapons of war. Not the peace of the grave or the security of the slave. I am talking about genuine peace, the kind of peace that makes life on earth worth living, the kind that enables men and nations to grow and to hope and to build a better life for their children–not merely peace for Americans but peace for all men and women–not merely peace in our time but peace for all time.

Five months later the CIA made sure his voice was stilled. Such sentiments have been verboten ever since.

Only children still believe the America propaganda and its war machine.


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Mark Channing Miller says:
October 3, 2022 at 9:31 pm

Bravo, Ed. As usual I learned a lot, both from you and your commenters.
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Peter Webster says:
October 2, 2022 at 8:29 am

I too mistook what Dylan meant by “Desolation Row”. Here’s another view altogether, from a 1968 mimeographed document I have supposedly written by Chester Anderson. It is signed ” provo”.
“For Dylan desolation row is not a place, but the state of mind that sees things as they are. All the agents of the power structure—education, for instance—seek to replace this vision with proper interpretations and values, so that we grow up strapped into the heart-attack machine of urban social and economic institutions—a constantly accelerating squirrel-cage. As our awareness is increasingly segmented among various institutions into shorter and shorter intervals, and new technologies do everything faster, time speeds up. Society’s demands become a superstimulus, and to cope, we grasp at institutional routines, the fixed responses of procedure, technology, value and interpretation.”
“At midnight all the agents, and the superhuman crew, Come out and round up everyone that knows more than they do, Then they bring them to the factories, where the heart-attack machines Are strapped across their shoulders, and then the kerosene Is brought down from the castles, by insurance men who go, Check to see that no one is escaping, to Desolation Row.” (“Desolation Row”)
The document is available here:
http://etoipi.fr/FILES/What%20is%20t...Revolution.pdf
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ejcurtin says:
October 2, 2022 at 9:05 am

Thanks, Peter. I’m aware of such interpretations. It’s a very complex song, however, and to my mind open to many interpretations. To make matters stranger, my reference to it is also open to various interpretations, intentionally. But maybe that’s not “clear” – Ha!
Pax,
Ed
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Gerald says:
October 2, 2022 at 7:21 am

I love your use of Greek myth, i.e. Nemesis and the Furies, to describe today’s reality. And as a friend pointed out to me ‘but in today’s world, Argus has only Five-Eyes’.
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Johnny says:
October 2, 2022 at 5:21 am

To paraphrase that teacher from way back:
‘Don’t bother to forgive them father, for most of them know exactly what they do. Especially those at the top of the pyramid’
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Paul K Haeder says:
October 1, 2022 at 6:56 pm

Oh, our children! The god of all digital dungeons, Cook tells kids what is the most creative and important language to learn. These are sick sick times, Ed.

=Apple CEO Tim Cook discussed the metaverse and more in an interview Friday with Dutch news outlet Bright.

=Cook told the outlet that programming is the “most important language you can learn.”

=Apple CEO Tim Cook discussed the importance of teaching coding skills in school during an interview Friday with Bright, a Dutch media outlet.

“I think everyone should learn programming before they graduate from high school and I actually think it should be taught in elementary school,” Cook told the news publication, adding that he sees coding as “the only universal language.”

“It’s the most important language you can learn,” he continued. “Of course your native language is more important for communication, but a programming language is a way to tap into your creativity.”

Cook has promoted incorporating programming into early education curriculum for years now, arguing in 2019 that it’s a “core skill,” just like mathematics and history, CNBC reported in 2019.

This summer, the CEO joined over 500 business leaders in calling on the US government to update the K-12 curriculum in each state to include computer science courses.

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The power of a Cook or Gates or Musk. Oh, that power. The most important thing to teach in K12 is, well, leanr about mutual aid, and believe that every government and every corporation is out to lie to you.
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Paul K Haeder says:
October 1, 2022 at 11:16 am

Ahh, Edward, some of us (I’m 65, grew up in the Azores and France and Germany and UK before Army oldman got us stationed at Fort Huachuca, AZ), were baptized in the reality of America — In 1923, the British novelist D. H. Lawrence offered a grim assessment of America and Americans: “All the other stuff, the love, the democracy, the floundering into lust, is a sort of by-play. The essential American soul is hard, isolate, stoic, and a killer. It has never yet melted.”

Of course, Lawrence was an Anglo Saxon, sucking on the lies of that perverse Empire and its Royal deeds, and as many have pointed out (and just yesterday, Putin’s speech is amazing), Anglo Saxons are murderous beyond the imagination.

Then, of course, who could not live without Sontag’s 1970s quote,

“Mozart, Pascal, Boolean algebra, Shakespeare, parliamentary government, baroque churches, Newton, the emancipation of women, Kant, Balanchine ballets, et al. don’t redeem what this particular civilization has wrought upon the world. The white race is the cancer of human history.”

But alas, imagine, all those viruses and bacteria laced in the fur of voles USA dropped onto Korea. Imagine that, Nazi’s living in the USA, Klanada, South America? Imagine the roots of this society pre-JFK, and that Truman wanting the charred flesh of Japanese.

Imagine internment in Klanada and U$A, and imagine the Indian School mentality of the great Go West Young Man criminals in Union Uniforms, and the lynchers in those Grays, Stars and Bars as their banner.

Imagine all of that, Mississippi Burning or George Floyd choking. Imagine Debs in jail for being against that war. Imagine the round-ups and murders of FBI and CIA and all those Pig Forces, even now, brother, with hit squad sheriff departments taking out dudes in rural Oregon (that’s where I live).

Imagine the 9/11 Osama Did it cult, and then the Covidian Cult, and you get to where we are today.

A good piece here by Harrington, “Why did the Left Fail the Covid Test So Badly?”

It speaks of my own work as a newspaperman in the US Southwest, attempting to get some sanity in the reporting of Guatemalans crossing (and perishing) the border. Why editors then, in 1981, wanted false balance and no nuance.

As far as youth, Edward, being attuned to lies are truth, you may not have been teaching lately, i.e. community colleges, other programs, universities. I’ve seen the transformation of the college, of the student body and the part-time faulty since 1983, as a teaching assistant grad student at the University of Texas.

Here, Harrington: ‘It is no exaggeration to say that a person born in 1990 or later has little if any understanding of what it means to disagree in detail and in good faith with someone whose political and/or social ideals are different than their own. Nor what it means to feel obligated to respond to the claims of others with careful factual refutations.

What they do know, because it’s mostly all that they have seen from their “betters,” is that to argue is to seek the destruction of one’s interlocutor, and failing that, to make sure his or her arguments are impeded from circulating freely in our shared civic spaces. The ever-increasing dialectical poverty of those who have been socialized and educated in this environment is evident to anyone who has served as a classroom instructor during the last quarter century.’
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But his article is about the failure of people like Hedges and Pilger on the Covidian story, on the morass of mendacity there, taking hook, line and sinker the Pfizer narrative, without one drop of suspicion around the merging of Deep State with Big Tech, Big Pharma:

He’s referencing John Pilger’s latest essay, and the fact that Pilger like so many I have high regard for, failed the Covidian test. Big time!

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Having soaked for 82 years in a deep bath of righteousness that is the official version of the last world war, isn’t it time those who are meant to keep the record straight declared their independence and decoded the propaganda? The urgency is greater than ever.

Reading this final flourish while remembering the lamb-like silence of John Pilger in the face of the sustained Covidian onslaught of institutionalized lies and Soviet-grade censorship, one doesn’t know whether to laugh or cry.

And when considering that virtually all those he endorses as exemplars of propaganda-savvy journalism—people such as Chris Hedges, Patrick Lawrence, Jonathan Cook, Diana Johnstone, Caitlin Johnstone all of whose work I have frequently and enthusiastically championed over the years—took the same cud-chewing path, the sense of farce only grows.

The same can be said of most all of the outlets (Grayzone, Mint Press News, Media Lens, Declassified UK, Alborada, Electronic Intifada, WSWS, ZNet, ICH, CounterPunch, Independent Australia, Globetrotter) who portray themselves as being wise to the wiles of elite-sponsored influence operations.

Who, the question thus occurs to me, is actually living in a “a deep bath of righteousness” that impedes the ability to access the truths that lie beyond the “official version” of our past and present?

Who is failing to respond to the presence of fascistic tendencies in our midst? ‘

If I didn’t know better, I’d swear it was John and his merry band of crack propaganda dissectors.

Is it that hard for them to see the shadow of fascism in the now heavily documented collaboration between the US government and Big Tech in censoring opinions that go counter to the government’s and Big Pharma’s desired discourse on Covid?

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RE: https://brownstone.org/articles/why-...test-so-badly/
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Art Costa says:
October 1, 2022 at 8:34 am

A comment I noted in OffG:

‘It is all escapism to feel dependent’ – C.G. Jung, Letters, Vol. 1

Summary: Nature is our home, the modern synthesized World is escapism. We crave the escapism so as not to feel the suffering that Life entails. Like children we turn and flee from every minor and major experience that causes us to suffer. And in doing so we return to the state of a Child, dependence and safe. We crave escapism to become dependent, like a baby. Dependency upon the modern Mother State, its technocracy and media propaganda will secure permanent infantilisation, the Evil Mother. Dependency upon Mother Nature is a process of maturation that teaches us ultimately, Independence, the Benevolent Mother.

You cannot ‘escape to the countryside’. This is a profound illusion foisted upon our sensibilities in this stage of our Civilisation. Entering a natural environment is actually, to come back home. It is where we belong, at least on the physical plain. The natural frequencies, the beneficial microbes, the choir of sounds, the calming tones of colour and light and the profound endocrinological effect of the ions that permeate a natural atmosphere are the only suitable environment for the healthy body, emotion and mind of a human being.

All other environments are in fact…ESCAPISM. Of course precautions are made so we are not too cold or too hot, too damp or too exposed and (nature appears to be made so man can work with her to create a more efficient existence) but the further you insulate yourself from the natural cycles the further you submerge yourself into the synthesized escapism. The problem of course is when you are dependent solely upon nature, the suffering of Life becomes more apparent and this is why it is paramount to a spiritual life. For the conscious recognition of the suffering of life, holds within it the truth of life in the physical plain and the pathway out of it, to Spiritual Transcendency. To not feel it, to put your body in a position that anaesthetizes your senses, to divert your attention to screens of dissociation is to regress into the state of a baby in the womb. This is the inevitable and terrible consequence into modern neurosis and psychosis. And this is the cause, corruption and purpose of digitization, transhumanism, augmented reality, synthesized products, fictional screen entertainment and the modern dependent synthesized materialistic worldview. To recognise Our suffering is to realign Our destiny. The benevolent Mother wants you to grow and become Independent.

c. It’s not about Waking Up, it’s about being Born. Nature is your caring Mother not the BioTech State
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Johnny says:
October 1, 2022 at 1:35 am

Sorry, Off topic, but this piece may interest you Edward, if you’re not already aware of this writer and his subject:
https://www.winterwatch.net/2022/09/...llen-murdered/
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Thomas Jordan says:
October 1, 2022 at 12:50 pm

Ed may not know of Russ but I’m sure he knows of his father “Tex” Winter who was the coach and innovator of the triangle offense that worked so well all those years for the Chicago Bills.
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ejcurtin says:
October 1, 2022 at 5:23 pm

Tom,

Thanks. I sure know of Tex Winter and I am very familiar Dorothy Kilgallen. I have read Shaw’s book about her. She was probably assassinated for knowing too much. Like so many of these killings, the case is circumstantial, but so are most murder cases. Ironically, as a young boy, I had appeared on a popular TV game show of the time – To Tell the Truth – and Dorothy, who was a very good journalist, was one of the celebrity panelists. Thanks for the reminder and others should look into her murder.
Pax,
Ed
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Gary Weglarz says:
September 30, 2022 at 5:05 pm

“Adult children” indeed Ed. It seems we now live in a country enveloped in a highly contagious form of malignant narcissism – lost in endless fascination with our own ‘reflection’ – with our latest “selfie” or Facebook post. Normative behavior for many who identify as “liberal” or “progressive” or even “left” (god forbid) – is to be at all times both obsessed with one’s own and with other’s “personal pronouns” – as well as remaining hyper-vigilant to the ever present possibility of experiencing the profound and triggering “personal insult” of learning that not everyone on planet earth shares one’s opinions and viewpoints.
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Mike Hastie says:
September 30, 2022 at 4:20 pm

Excellent article by Edward Curtin, as I was also baptized with the American fairytale of being the greatest country in the world. That was reinforced by being raised in a military family. EVERYTHING radically changed for me when I came back from Viet Nam as an Army medic. My core belief system was dismantled, as I later realized that the U.S. Government committed atrocities everyday during the Viet Nam War. Geneva Convention Rules are for fools. The most evil piece of real estate the world has ever seen is the Pentagon. I finally grew up as the lice of US propaganda has left me. I was blind, but now I see!
Mike Hastie
Army medic Viet Nam
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Paul K Haeder says:
October 1, 2022 at 11:30 am

Hey, Mike. Here, short, but so true. It’s about the median, the mendacious and milquetoast thespians that have infected EVERYTHING in this society:

A Nation of “Thespians” by William Manson / June 5th, 2021
https://dissidentvoice.org/2021/06/a...-of-thespians/

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Introduced by Thespis, “play-acting” quickly attained widespread popularity among Athenians who, like most people, were looking for diverting forms of entertainment to fill the evening hours. On one such evening the aged patriarch Solon, celebrated lawmaker and civic founder, was persuaded to attend a performance. His reaction?: indignation and an angry rebuke to Thespis, who blithely responded that such “play” was harmless, merely a novel pastime. “No!” Solon retorted angrily (here paraphrasing Plutarch’s account), “It is dangerous. Such a tolerance for pretense and deception will end up infecting all our commerce and civic life.” But Thespis merely shrugged — and, some 2500 years later, we now find ourselves enmeshed in a media-sphere of garrulous, deceitful “actors,” all clamoring for our attention as they exhibit their base arts of “persuasion.” Aristotle, in his book on Rhetoric, had warned presciently that the “base” variety of rhetoric seeks to undermine our self-directed judgment in order to manipulate and control our decisions. Much later, in the mid-18th century, Jean-Jacques Rousseau followed Plutarch’s account of Solon by writing an angry polemic against the establishment of a theater in his beloved Geneva.

Consulting the Dictionary of Occupational Titles, I find that there are some 70,000 “professional actors” in the U.S. (compared to, for instance, 3000 sociologists). Quite obviously, the requisite job skills require playing different roles, displaying (false) emotions, and “sincerely” persuading us to buy sundry products, “lifestyles” — and candidates. With their omnipresence in all performing media, actors have by now become absurdly over-valued as role-models in everyday life. Writing back in the 1940s, psychoanalyst Erich Fromm had already critiqued the rise of a new American character-type: the “marketing personality” — whose looks, smiles and jokes would be “selling points,” not only in politics, but infiltrating all aspects of social engagement. In short, not the real person and his values (if any), but a simulacrum or image fashioned to display pleasing, if insincere, demeanor, attitudes and opinions.

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That’s a year plus ago, but my interview of Mike Hastie, FYI:

Feds sprayed chemicals into the eyes of a retired ER nurse and veteran

An interview with Mike Hastie, a member of Veterans for Peace who federal officers assaulted with pepper spray at close range Saturday night, unprovoked

https://www.streetroots.org/news/202...se-and-veteran
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Sanford Kelson says:
September 30, 2022 at 2:32 pm

I too underwent the awaking that Curtin did. I tried to be a Paul Revere. But adult children were too busy entertaining themselves, going to the beaches, sporting events, taverns, cruise ships, shopping centers buying trinkets, etc. Most of the adult children have ostracized me for the effort. I bid them farewell and miss them not. Although it can be a lonely place to be, it is a better place for me. Curtin’s essay is on point.
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Evan Hawthorn says:
September 30, 2022 at 11:34 am

so well done, sir.
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Ik hoop dat de oorlogwaanzin minder besmettelijk en dodelijk is dan Covid. Maar ik vrees ervoor.

[Bach]

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Elon Musk is een buitenstaander, zoals u en ik. Komt niet uit de regio, is evenmin beleidsverantwoordelijke in zijn land.

Dus zijn voorstel weegt evenveel als de tweet van eender welke Amerikaan.

Trekt het de logica door en maakt u een Putin lover van hem? Dat is eerder de vraag. De Krim aan Rusland geven of terug geven of over laten vond u dat niet ondenkbaar? Moest dat niet militair herovert worden?

Mijns inziens neemt Musk hier afstand van de oorlogsmeute. En dat is goed nieuws. Anderzijds... misschien wil hij gewoon zijn Starlink spionagesatelieten beschermen door zijn comments.

[dalibor]

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Trekt het de logica door en maakt u een Putin lover van hem? Dat is eerder de vraag.

Mijns inziens neemt mustk hier afstand van de oorlogsmeute. En dat is goed nieuws. Anderzijds... misschien wil hij gewoon zijn Starlink spionagesatelieten beschermen door zijn comments.

Weet ik veel of het een putinlover is.

Je hebt mensen die om andere redenen vinden dat Oekraïne maar moet plooien. De appeasers. Dus misschien is hij eerder een appeaser, een Chamberlain.

Wat denk jij?

[patrickve]

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Trekt het de logica door en maakt u een Putin lover van hem? Dat is eerder de vraag. De Krim aan Rusland geven of terug geven of over laten vond u dat niet ondenkbaar? Moest dat niet militair herovert worden?

Kijk, het is heel eenvoudig: Rusland is een vijand van ons. Het is een vijand omdat het militair durft binnen te vallen wanneer wij hem laten weten dat het vrienden van ons zijn, en niet willen dat hij dat doet.

Wie militair binnenvalt bij "een vriend" is automatisch een vijand he. Meer moet dat niet zijn. En een vijand, die moet, waar het kan, vernietigd worden. Daar doe je geen wederzijds voordelige zaken meer mee, die probeer je op alle mogelijke manieren te vernietigen.

Meer moet er vanuit onze kant over Rusland niet gezegd worden. Wij moeten streven naar de totale vernietiging van Rusland, zij het wel dat we hierbij natuurlijk moeten rekening houden met de begrensdheid van onze middelen om dat te bekomen.

Kortom, er kan onder vrienden gepraat worden over welke de juiste strategie is, maar het einddoel is onbespreekbaar: het is de vernietiging van Rusland, of de beste benadering daarvan.

Dat is al zo sinds het einde van WO II, en dat is nog steeds zo. We hebben gedacht dat Rusland zijn vijandelijkheid wilde opbergen, maar we hebben gemerkt dat de Russen niet luisteren als we hen zeggen dat ze ergens hun fikken moeten afhouden met hun tanks. DUS blijft het een vijand waarvan de totale vernietiging moet nagestreefd worden. Dat de Amerikanen niet kunnen lachen met hoeren zoals Duitsland, is in dat opzicht perfect begrijpelijk.

[Sneaky]

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Als Musk openbaar bekend maakt dat de Krim dient erkent te worden als deel van Rusland is hij dan een 'Putin lover'? Of geeft dat kortsluiting?

Musk is een held! De enige die realistische oplossingen biedt. Als Rusland geen bot krijgt gaat die hond blijven blaffen en uiteindelijk bijten. Er gaan sowieso concessies moeten komen van Oekraïne.

[Sneaky]

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Kijk, het is heel eenvoudig: Rusland is een vijand van ons. Het is een vijand omdat het militair durft binnen te vallen wanneer wij hem laten weten dat het vrienden van ons zijn, en niet willen dat hij dat doet.

Wie militair binnenvalt bij "een vriend" is automatisch een vijand he. Meer moet dat niet zijn. En een vijand, die moet, waar het kan, vernietigd worden. Daar doe je geen wederzijds voordelige zaken meer mee, die probeer je op alle mogelijke manieren te vernietigen.

Meer moet er vanuit onze kant over Rusland niet gezegd worden. Wij moeten streven naar de totale vernietiging van Rusland, zij het wel dat we hierbij natuurlijk moeten rekening houden met de begrensdheid van onze middelen om dat te bekomen.

Kortom, er kan onder vrienden gepraat worden over welke de juiste strategie is, maar het einddoel is onbespreekbaar: het is de vernietiging van Rusland, of de beste benadering daarvan.

Dat is al zo sinds het einde van WO II, en dat is nog steeds zo. We hebben gedacht dat Rusland zijn vijandelijkheid wilde opbergen, maar we hebben gemerkt dat de Russen niet luisteren als we hen zeggen dat ze ergens hun fikken moeten afhouden met hun tanks. DUS blijft het een vijand waarvan de totale vernietiging moet nagestreefd worden. Dat de Amerikanen niet kunnen lachen met hoeren zoals Duitsland, is in dat opzicht perfect begrijpelijk.

Dat is het hem nu net. De vernietiging van Rusland is onrealistisch zolang het een kern-mogendheid is. We gaan er dus mee moeten samen leven ook na de oorlog in Oekraïne. Als je ze te hard vernedert plant je gewoon de zaadjes voor de volgende oorlog.